This subreddit is like giving drinks to an alcoholic. What started as a need to replace a failed Asus router has led to an expensive addiction! I enjoy looking at your racks and equipment (that sounds bad but you know what I mean). I see that some people have an Xbox in their server rack. I’m assuming this is done to either distribute it to multiple TVs or to simply neaten up a setup by storing the Xbox out of sight. How exactly does that work? Do you use an HDMI to ethernet converter to distribute the gaming to different rooms? Is this done with Ubiquiti hardware? How is the controller connected if it is beyond bluetooth range? I have 1 Xbox and think it would be cool to be able to play it on my multiple TVs in the house.
For attention, here is a picture of my rack. There are many like it but this one is mine. Comments and optimization suggestions welcome! I am working, slowly, to clean it up and optimize it.
Ubiquiti Hardware:
USW Pro Max 24 PoE
USW Aggregation Switch
UDM SE
PDU Pro (newly installed)
Others:
Cyber Power UPS
HD HomeRun
Verizon ONT
DS112
DS1522+
Netgear ReadyNAS
Several external USB drivers
Dell I7-12900 (Proxmox Server running Plex, Prowlarr/Sonarr/Radarr, Windows, Ubuntu, HomeAssistant, PiHole)
Lantronix Serial Port Console
Not shown:
1x U6 Lite
2x U6 LR
2x U6 In Wall
1x U6 Mesh
1x U7 Pro
1x U7 Pro Max
1x USW Flex
1x Flex Mini
2x U6 bullet
1x U6 Instant
Owned but not yet installed:
Unifi Patch panel
G6 PZT
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I think they use HDMI to ethernet or fiber. Not sure if the hdmi/ethernet can be routed through the network though. I'm in ealy stages of what you did. Replaced dying asus combo router with a ucg fiber and 6 month later I'm wondering how I spent so much already on all the other accessories.
Do yourself a favor and don't do the math!!!
I'm sorry about your addictions... but congrats too!
There are HDMI over network solutions. It’s called MoIP or AVoIP. Usually you want at minimum a 10G backplane on the network (obviously not as good as a direct fiber HDMI at 48gbps). Other option could just be baluns (HDMI point to point converters) since likely all of the Ethernet for the home goes to the location.
I’ve not seen an Xbox in a rack, but I’m interested in possibly moving mine.
There are a couple options for “remoting” consoles, or other source for that matter. Like you suggested some sort of HDMI extender, like an HD BaseT extender over CAT6 or AVoIP solution like Crestron NVX or any of the other ones that are out there, you can get a basic setup within a semi reasonable price point, but as you keep adding sources and destinations, you’ve got to keep buying receivers and transmitters and it can stay to become expensive.
I myself use Crestron’s NVX and have transmitters installed at the rack and receivers behind all the displays. As someone said the range on the controllers is actually really good, just depends on what type of walls they have to go through and where they are positioned relative to where you want to use them.
I actually recently moved my PS5, XBOX and 4K Blu-ray player back out of my rack and installed the into the credenza in my den/theater because I didn’t love going to my rack to swap disc for some of the physical media I still have. I installed 2 more NVX transmitters behind the credenza and connected those back up to the core AVoIP switch and all of those can be routed to any TV, I just have easier access to them where I use them most.
Very interesting. Does this solution require a special AVoIP switch to convey the traffic from the transmitter to the receivers or can it work over any ethernet switch? I hear you regarding having to go to your rack to swap physical media. That wouldn't be fun. Thanks for your explanation!
So there are requirements needed for the AVoIP devices that will vary slightly manufacturer to manufacturer but the general requirements are; Support for IGMP v2 or v3, depending on the endpoints, IGMP snooping, IGMP querier, multicast, PIM and a few other things are the general requirements, some manufacturers require more.
Ubiquiti didn’t have a switch capable of it when I did my deployment, so I got a Cisco SG-350, that is uplinked to my core and on the uplinks multicast is blocked so it doesn’t leave that switch, but everything else flows between properly. All my AVoIP devices land on that switch and work properly.
I have seen things about the latest pro and enterprise switches being able to support AVoIP now, but I’ve never explored it since there’s no reason to swap out my SG-350. If it ever dies or isn’t working properly I’ll explore other options but for now it stays.
I have my Xbox in my rack, that being said it’s a bit more straightforward than you think. My rack is about 20ft from my basement tv and my den tv is directly above that on the first floor. I have 50ft fiber optic hdmi cables running from each tv back to the rack. I honestly don’t play it that often so I manually just swap the cable depending on wha tv I’m trying to play it on.
https://a.co/d/9uCk9tu
Interesting. Thanks for that link. Since your TVs aren't far from the rack, it sounds like your controllers have no issues connecting. I have one TV that is two flights up from my rack. That TV is connected to the rack via CAT6A ethernet but I have no way to (easily) run any additional cables.
Check this out. This was what I was going to implement but realized the fiber hdmi was easiest for my situation.
https://www.orei.com/collections/hdmi-extender-splitter/products/hd14ex165k-hdmi-extender-splitter-over-cat-165feet
Looking good!
I just have mine mounted behind my TV, not at my rack. I did have to port forward for open NAT. So I created a gaming vlan for that specifically
I am also interested so see how others are doing it if they are broadcasting it to their network somehow.
I’m not doing this but you can basically “cast” or remotely play your Xbox (at least with the Series X). That might be the setup that people are doing with putting their Xbox in the rack ¯(°_o)/¯
Good point. I've used Xbox remote play on my MacBook and thought it works surprisingly well. My Samsung TV supports Xbox gaming but unfortunately it appears that it only support cloud gaming... so I would need some kind of PC or other device to use remote play.
I had this same question too. Also seen people with their Apple TVs in the rack.
"How is the controller connected if it is beyond bluetooth range? "
The Wireless controller has surprisingly decent range so that would be the easiest and least expensive way.
An HDMI with USB-C works well - this video explains it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRngAPdumsI
You can also use something like a Denon AVR-A1H though from experience I would not recommend it -------- FOMO could have you upgrading each time a new model is released :-(
it's a bit janky, but I use a KVM extender at source and plug a bluetooth dongle at destination , so the xbox stays in the rack where there's active cooling for the rack. I haven't found a way to do multi room ...YET.
and I like your rack...WINK*
It could be an older Xbox and used as a media server running XBMC now called Kodi.
I migrated from mine to a Netgear NAS, just waiting for it to act up so I can get the UNAS Pro
I cut the cable and started using XBMC about 15 years ago. I currently run Librelec/Kodi on Intel NUCs at each TV. The media is stored on my Synology NAS. The whole system is 100% operated with a remote control and is wife friendly. I do wish it was better with HDMI CEC but, in general, Kodi works well here in the house. Not so much externally. I also run Plex in a linux container on my Proxmox system. My son in college and connects to my Plex server to watch TV shows, Movies, and even live TV (football mainly). My other kids routinely stream shows and movies to their iPhones/iPads/laptops even here in the house.
Ah yes, the old: “One’s too many, and twelve’s not enough!”
I did this once with hdmi to Ethernet basins and I was surprised at how quickly the controller range was a factor.
In my basement, seated 20ft from the Xbox with one uninsulated wall between us, it wasn’t reliable.
I can’t tell you how much of it was the Xbox‘s fault versus the environment’s fault, but I quickly decided it was easier to find a tasteful place to put the Xbox near the TV then it was to try to make that solution work better.