If you install the UK version (which you have to do a recovery USB order for) it still suggests you use the US keyboard and the default language should be English (United States)!
How? If you buy a product in the US the US will be on top. If you buy a product from the UK the UK will be there. If you select the AU ISO Australia will be at the top. It’s dependent on what you choose.
Windows at this point is collecting wayyyyyyy more than just your location. This is one of the least unnecessary things it collects. Your computer constantly sends your general location out to every website it talks to, unless you took extra steps to mask this.
It's not really doing that in this instance. Windows has different setup files for every single country/language, so if you download a version meant for Iceland you'll get their standards suggested first
I think this depends on the language you've chosen when setting up Windows 11.
In my case, my own country (Netherlands) stood there at the top because I've chosen Dutch as language when setting up Windows.
But then again, that would suck if you speak Dutch but live in Belgium or Suriname.
Doesn't deny the fact however that Windows automatically assumes you're an American when setting it up in English while there are a lot of countries that has English as their own official language.
I set it up by selecting English UK as the language and it suggested UK at the top. Then I selected Germany as my region and Polish as my keyboard layout. I never expected it to automatically guess any of that, that sounds a bit far fetched to me.
If you use their tool to create a USB support, it will put the region and language of the PC you used the tool on when you install. If you download their ISO, it put USA and English at the top.
So it is still defaulting since it default to US when it can't automatically detect your region. A non defaultism solution would be putting the detected region when they can and full alphabetical order when nothing is detected.
Edit: After double checking, on their website, when you want to download an ISO, it asks you the language/region (and USA is not at the top here BTW), so OP either selected the wrong one or got it from an unofficial source.
It does not seems to unfortunately because they didn't bother to for the ISO.
For the tool, I say it's take the host settings because it literally tells you that and even allow you to override it.
Edit: they provide the user with different version, you just have to select it when downloading an ISO (and USA is not at the top in the selection field)
When you get Windows Install Media, the region it is for is included on the disc/installer. It puts that region/language/keyboard layout on top, because that’s probably the one you want.
In the UK, the UK will be on top. In India, India will be on top.
Microsoft is very often guilty of USA-defaultism. Not in this specific case, though.
As a Canadian anglophone, I am resentful of often being required to choose between either US English or British English. British is a lot closer to what we use but it still causes so many spellcheck issues.
Huh? I posted extremely similar post (literally just a different website with same country "sorting") and people said, mod included it was not USDefaultism. Reddit is a shithole, truly.
It's a lot of software to be honest inventor starting in inches home assistant using am pm and there is a lot more. Autocorrect still sucks for people who are bilingual. How fucking hard can language detection be?
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I wonder how many would pick American Samoa if USA wadnt at the top
Also, I think the the Åland Islands should be at the bottom. The Danish alphabet end with XYZÆØÅ, and I'm assuming the Swedish one is the same.
I believe Swedish alphabet ends the same way as Finnish XYZÅÄÖ
Correct. And and I stand by that it’s the correct order: Å (AA), Ä (AE), Ö (OE). Doesn’t make sense to put OE ahead of AA
But does it make sense to put B ahead of AA?
If you first sort on number of characters, and then the general alphabet order, yes. I could also accept AÄÅBC…OÖPQ…
Fair
28 skal der stå..
Yeah this list was clearly human sorted. People do that all the time in french sorting é next to e
… We don‘t have none latin letters in the alphabet in germany.
Ä Ö Ü ß do exist but only in words and not the alphabet
YES! and this is a thinkpad too!
If you install the UK version (which you have to do a recovery USB order for) it still suggests you use the US keyboard and the default language should be English (United States)!
I haven't come across that actually. I specifically downloaded a UK ISO.
The English International ones from Microsoft are slightly better but the Lenovo recovery media will always prioritise English US.
Also English UK keyboards are laid out differently. but Windows still defaults to US
Sorry it annoys me ha
No worries I feel ya!
Us keyboard is suggested based on the physical keyboard. If you had say azerty it wouldn't have suggested US
The machines in my example are UK qwerty but it always suggests US layout
Learning the ABC? Nah, Americans must learn the UAB!
Concerning the rest of the world and regarding the US, they must learn the UAVs.
lithuania
latvia
This feels like a r/skamtebord
užadroji akcinė bendrovė?
Jeigu jie yra tie Lietuvių-Amerikiečiai tai galbūt? :) (If they are those Lithuanian-Americans, maybe :)
I almost read is as UAE 🇦🇪
It’s programmed this way for so many things and so annoying lol
For me the Poland was first so I think it's just based on your location or chosen language
Creepy
How? If you buy a product in the US the US will be on top. If you buy a product from the UK the UK will be there. If you select the AU ISO Australia will be at the top. It’s dependent on what you choose.
I meant that the device collecting your location is kind of creepy during setup. I know it's a better experience but it just trips me out.
Windows at this point is collecting wayyyyyyy more than just your location. This is one of the least unnecessary things it collects. Your computer constantly sends your general location out to every website it talks to, unless you took extra steps to mask this.
Ah ok misunderstood on my end
It's not really doing that in this instance. Windows has different setup files for every single country/language, so if you download a version meant for Iceland you'll get their standards suggested first
I think this depends on the language you've chosen when setting up Windows 11.
In my case, my own country (Netherlands) stood there at the top because I've chosen Dutch as language when setting up Windows.
But then again, that would suck if you speak Dutch but live in Belgium or Suriname.
Doesn't deny the fact however that Windows automatically assumes you're an American when setting it up in English while there are a lot of countries that has English as their own official language.
I set it up by selecting English UK as the language and it suggested UK at the top. Then I selected Germany as my region and Polish as my keyboard layout. I never expected it to automatically guess any of that, that sounds a bit far fetched to me.
Isn't this dependent on the ISO you choose for the installation? Haven't installed Windows manually in a long time.
If you use their tool to create a USB support, it will put the region and language of the PC you used the tool on when you install. If you download their ISO, it put USA and English at the top.
So it is still defaulting since it default to US when it can't automatically detect your region. A non defaultism solution would be putting the detected region when they can and full alphabetical order when nothing is detected.
Edit: After double checking, on their website, when you want to download an ISO, it asks you the language/region (and USA is not at the top here BTW), so OP either selected the wrong one or got it from an unofficial source.
So it's not defaultism
I installed windows with a german iso at work and it suggested me germany
You had me double check and you are right, it asks you the version you want before downloading an ISO. I added an edit to my comment
The version you download doesn’t depend on which version of the website you use?
It does not seems to unfortunately because they didn't bother to for the ISO.
For the tool, I say it's take the host settings because it literally tells you that and even allow you to override it.
Edit: they provide the user with different version, you just have to select it when downloading an ISO (and USA is not at the top in the selection field)
It is not, i have polish windows and had USA on top, it was a different website though.
When you get Windows Install Media, the region it is for is included on the disc/installer. It puts that region/language/keyboard layout on top, because that’s probably the one you want.
In the UK, the UK will be on top. In India, India will be on top.
Microsoft is very often guilty of USA-defaultism. Not in this specific case, though.
Exactly this. It's an EN-US copy, on an EN-GB copy it'd be the United Kingdom.
Criminal to install windows on a thinkpad
now it's a no-think pad bc windows 11 thinks for you
Very real lmao
As a Canadian anglophone, I am resentful of often being required to choose between either US English or British English. British is a lot closer to what we use but it still causes so many spellcheck issues.
Well yeah, they created Microsoft so they put their country first. Defaultism? Yes. But its expected from them
Couldn't they just rename it to American United States? Then it would be just after American Samoa
Fn+End, Fn+page up, then down one to get UK iirc.
All the think pad hate in here! Damn, I like my think pad 😂
It's probably because Americans make a large part of their userbase, and are the only ones who cannot find things alphabetically loll
There is a solution that r/windows doesn't like👍
Wasn't it made by a american?
Huh? I posted extremely similar post (literally just a different website with same country "sorting") and people said, mod included it was not USDefaultism. Reddit is a shithole, truly.
My setups always ask me if im in the netherlands or germany, might think it has a connection to the internet and geo-guessing
It's a lot of software to be honest inventor starting in inches home assistant using am pm and there is a lot more. Autocorrect still sucks for people who are bilingual. How fucking hard can language detection be?
I guess it's because Windows is an American company, so they code it like that
honestly, call me crazy, but I just jump straight to Linux as soon as I buy a new pc. ideally I don’t even boot into Windows.
bonus points if it’s a Thinkpad.