Hi UKPF,
I've been without a car since 2022 due to working from home and having little need for a car. I take home 77K (before tax) yearly and will start going into the office and away from home more frequently in 2026. I have 45K in readily available money cash and I'm intending on spending about 20K of it on a car with the remaining left as a 12 month emergency fund.
After all expenses (mortgage/bills/food), investments (1000 into S&S ISA/month) and personal spending I have 1200ish left over per month so I can afford maintenance on the car too.
Am I wrong for feeling a like I'm wasting my money by getting a car this expensive and is it a dumb decision? I'm aware it's a depreciating asset but I feel like now is a good time to get one.
I guess I already know the answer, but I would like other peoples thoughts too.
Edit - Thank you all for the responses, the general consensus is to go for it and reaffirmed my thoughts!
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You can clearly afford to buy a £20 k car. Whether you should or not is basically a question only you can answer.
Imo £20k is not a lot to spend on a car. I bought a £20k 4 year old used car 2 years ago. I think it was a good purchase, I like it and I really like the fact I own it and don't have a £500 pm car payment like basically everyone I live near or work with seems to have!
Exact same as myself. No regrets.
Fully agree. If I can’t pay it in full, I can’t afford it! Excluding mortgage of course!
Yep I did similar a couple of years ago, it's not like the value of the car is going to plummet to zero so I've still got the equity(minus depreciation). And not having to worry about any monthly payments is a weight off my mind.
As is not having to worry quite so much about breaking down, I've just upgraded from a ~20yo car to a 2020 model and the peace of mind while driving is great.
Me contemplating a 15k car right now 😂
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You’re not being dumb. On your numbers this is pretty reasonable.
20000 is about 25 percent of your gross income and you’re paying cash while still keeping a full year emergency fund. You’re also investing consistently and still have surplus each month. That’s basically textbook responsible.
Yes it’s a depreciating asset, but that doesn’t automatically make it a bad decision. The question is utility and enjoyment. If you’re going to be commuting more, travelling, and actually using it, then it’s not wasted money, it’s buying convenience and time.
If it helps mentally, you could sanity check it by asking yourself two things. Would I still be fine if the car lost 5000 in value over the next few years and would I regret buying cheaper every time I got in it. If the answer is no to both, then you’re good.
As long as it’s a sensible model, not stretching running costs, and you’re not touching your investing plan, this is well within your means.
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What car is it? And what year/mileage?
You can expect that 20k car to depreciate pretty significantly over a couple years of ownership but if it's a car you like and will enjoy then it's worth spending the money.
Tbh your budget is fine and with the income you have you'll have enough funds for maintenance work and repairs should anything go wrong (which, let's face it, any car will need some work sooner or later).
Depends on the car re depreciation though.
I bought a car for £20,500 in January 2024, it was 4 years old. Looking on auto trader they’ve held the value fairly well, so I won’t lose much on depreciation.
This isn’t true depending on what 20k car they choose to buy, if they’re buying something that is 3-4 years old then I’d expect the value to not drop below £15k over 2 years all dependant on mileage etc of course.
I was looking into getting a 19/20 plate c class coupe, up to 50k miles, but I have seen a few at about 30k miles in that budget
It’s a 6-7 year old car, and 50k miles is high as a starting point. In a few years you could have a 10 year old, 80-100k miles car, which is often the point that cars get a little unreliable and start to depreciate rapidly again.
For that price you could get a low mileage used VW (or similar mid-range brand) that would feel newer, hold its value better and be more reliable over time.
I am pretty sure that era of merc have interior that rattles and general poor interior quility for the price. I am in an audi s3 and may just be more picky around cars
From my experience so does my 24 plate Merc 😅
I'm not an expert on that particular car. But generally speaking, considering it's around 6 years old, it should have experienced most of its depreciation already.
I earn less than half of your salary and was considering buying a car for that much. Don’t worry you earn enough 😂.
I think if you work remotely and hardly drive, it makes sense to have a cheap car for occasional journeys.
If you drive often, or if you do longer journeys, then having a nicer car makes sense because you’re spending more time in it.
Agree. I use my car to go to shops once a week and odd leisure trip bit 80% is work related for which i get 5k a year allowance. My car is 8 years old , reliable , comfortable and spacious. I do 6k a year and servie yearly fixing things when they need fixing . This mont new brake pads as picked up on service. I cant justify the expenee at the moment and continue to pump money into S and S isa and pensions. A car is a tool to do a job in my eyes and not a luxury status symbol
Where people go wrong isn't buying the car, it's buying it for the wrong reason. If this is about convenience, reliability, and quality of life as your routine changes, it's a rational choice. If it's about easing a feeling of "I should reward myself" or keeping up with an image, that's where regret creeps in.
You already understand depreciation, Money isn't just for optimizing spreadsheets - it's also for reducing friction in your life
You earn good money, you have good savings after you’ve bought the car. Do it.
Life is for living! You could buy a £500 car, which lots of people in this sub love to advise.
But what car? Don’t buy something shit and slow.
I was looking into getting a 20 plate c class coupe! I have always wanted one but couldn't justify it as I wasn't financially ready back then
Might well go with the E class Coupe much better and nicer looking
Honestly go for it , you can easily afford it life to short to be wasted
Be careful with mercedes. They might be within your budget to buy, but like BMW the cost of replacing things like tyres is horrible. I can replace 4 tyres on my car for the price of one mercedes or BMW tyre.
Exactly what’s the points of saving if you’re never gonna spend it on anything
I'm on £90K and found that I could find some good cars around the £10-£12k range for what I was after. I previously had a £18K Focus ST and to me it always felt like having too much cash tied up.
My partner now drives that car as we used to share it before she got an office based job and now I'm in the market for a £4K MX5 which I'm finding very exciting and that's a much easier pill to swallow.
For contrast, I’m on just a smidge over £90k and I’m selling my £27k car as we speak to purchase a £75k car 😂
Congrats man! What car are you getting?
A 718 Cayman GT4 Clubsport - Just need mine to sell and wait for the right one to come up 🤞🏼
Woah - nows thats a motor! Planning to track it I assume?
IDK when I was a kid it was common for a new car to cost about a whole year's pay and be an unreliable rusty ruin after less than 10 years.
You can clearly afford it.
You could spend less. You could waste a lot more. Most people in Britain outside of London consider a car to be worth the cost.
Buy Japanese-but-not-Nissan, 2-4 years old, keep up with the servicing, 10 years of transport sorted. Seems reasonable.
I've had a couple of Nissans and liked them a lot. The note was a bit small so I upgraded to the juke. I loved it so much. My cousin had the exact same car as me, even down to the colour and hated it with a passion. It's all down to personal preference, but I never found them unreliable.
If it was me I would (and I bought a 20k car a few years back with less savings than you). Got to live a little and I plan on keeping it for 8 years minimum so it’s justified in my books.
If the car is not too old, is well maintained, and you plan to keep up with ongoing maintenance, then I think it's fine.
I was in a similar position six years ago and spent £18k on a nearly new second hand car. I've kept it since, paid it off, and now I just spend around £400 per year on maintenance. Other people are spending more than that monthly on leases.
How far away is the office? How frequently will you be going away?
£76k salary. I bought a £24k car. Go for it
It's a personal & emotional choice, rather than a financial one. If you look at this through a financial lense the answer is always a hard no.
I earn very similar to you, but my household income is about £110k, albeit we also have two kids. We put £3k into various savings per month and still have sufficient fun money.
So I got a decent car, £20.5k so extremely similar ballpark to you. It's not just an A to B machine for me though, I love my car.
I have a stressful job and the car is "my thing" that reminds me why I get up and go to work every day. The fruit of my labour if you will.
What do you buy?
The short story goes like this:
Bought a 3 month old ex-demo Kia Stinger GTS in 2019 for £32k
Sold it 2 years ago for £28k because I WFH post COVID and my car usage plummeted. Regretted it every day since.
Bought it back for £20.5k in August this year (the exact same one). I'm now grinning like a Cheshire cat again.
I learned a valuable lesson in that it's ok to have nice things. Not every decision has to be financially motivated or financially optimum. 👍 Sometimes you can follow your heart instead of your brain.
Funny, was just reading your original comment thinking “that sounds like me” then I scroll down a bit to see that we have the same car.
I also WFH and sometimes think it’s daft having 20 odd grand tied up in a car that I only do a few thousand miles in every year, but then I take it out and the idea of selling it soon goes away.
I can comfortably afford it, and I like having a fairly niche car that everyone seems to have a soft spot for, so it’s staying! Plus it’s barely depreciated in the few years I’ve had it due to the mileage staying so low.
That logic is exactly why I sold it in 2023. All I can say is, don't do it! I wish I had your mentality 2 years ago. 👍
Good answer. I think this subreddit can be guilty of falling too close to the subreddit for frugal living.
Granted this question is a personal one rather than a financial one, as most ‘luxury’ items are.
Great car
Damn that’s savvy deal. You got lucky
I think it's highly subjective. If you can afford it and are really into cars then sure, treat yourself.
I wouldn't personally spend this much on a car because it would piss me off when it got scratched in a car park, or treated as a mobile skip by the rest of the family 😂
Can I ask what line of work ur in to earn 77k?
Hey, I work as a DevOps engineer (since Jan 2023) for a SAAS company in the West Midlands
I am on £60k-ish and bought a 5 year old car for 15k 4 years ago. I love it and have no plans on changing, don't regret my decision one bit. I like having a fast, fun car with no monthly payments even though I WFH too.
20k is perfectly fine for a car considering you can buy it outright. other than that, depending on the miles you do, the money you have left at the end of the month might drop by quite a bit
Can you afford it and does it bring you joy?
A good rule is can you afford to buy 2 if you can then 1 is ok.
For everything Other than your home
You could afford this. So could I. I would never but you might want to. I'm happy for both of us and I hope you are too.
I was in an extremely similar position to you - earn very slightly more and was moving from a job with no driving to one where I drive about 12-15k miles a year. I chose to sell off my trusty 15 year old banger and buy a 20k car. I sometimes think about what else I could have done with that money but honestly, it hasn't put me in financial distress and driving it makes me happy.
Cars lose about 50% of their value in the first 3 years, and then the depreciation flattens off after that. And older cars, that were originally expensive, are usually expensive to service/maintain. You can afford it but it all comes down to your priorities. I usually go for a car that’s - year or two old and don’t stretch myself too much.
You can afford it... But it depends what your future plans are.
If you are looking at brand new id advise to get something atleast 3 years old as that is when the depreciation starts to slow a bit.
Always consider a car as lost money not an investment. If you can afford to lose £13k (as you can get an ok car for 7k) without impacting future plans, then go for it.
Easy short way to bypass if you can afford something or not. If you have to ask if you can afford it, then you cant.
This is the type of person to buy a Toyota Corolla 😂
20K on a nice car isn't a waste if you have the money to pay for it. You can get some lovely 1 or 2 year old cars that are far better for that money than a new one, as long as the mileage is reasonably low.
You spend a lot of time in your car and it's always best to get a good one you can afford. I've had cheap clunkers in the past as that was all I could afford, and now have a small Seat Arona with most of the bells and whistles because why not? Having a few quality of life things like bluetooth, automatic lights and windscreen wipers and rear parking assist aren't necessary, but they make driving better and more fun.
Pick a car you love. If something on the forecourt jumps out and shouts "buy me" and it's within your budget then go for it.
I bought it quite expensive car and its the worst thing I've ever done financially. Wont be spending that amount ever again.
I try to think of a car that's just a tool to get from a to b. A 5k car will do the same job as a 20k car
I bought a 15k car and love it. Even 4 years on I still enjoy jumping in it and taking it for a drive.
I'll now go from A to C to B if it involves a nice road.
Each to there own i guess. Im not really into cars so any drive is more of a chore than something I actually enjoy doing
5k isn’t enough for a good car these days. Try 10-12k you can get modern 3-4year old cars that will be reliable. 20k is a lot and I make about 160k pa after bonus
The reliability just depends on the car. I've had 15k+ cars that have been less reliable than the first car I ever owned, which was a £500 corsa
My last car was 15k and had an oil leak the first week, so it was sent back to be fixed. Then, a week after getting it back, the front windscreen wash spray broke. So back to get fixed. Then, at 40k miles, the wet belt needed changing, which was a £1k fix
Name and shame the model, please.
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!thanksin a reply to them. Points are shown as the user flair by their username.You use a car almost every day and can get a chunk of value back when you sell it, if you keep it in good condition. I was in a similar situation last year. My old car was starting to become expensive to maintain and was a bit too small for my needs. I hunted around for 3 months and found the cheapest car that met all my requirements (£20k), got £3k back for my 8 year old Skoda fabia and plan to run this car for another 8 years. I now have a much comfier commute (1hr each way), space for newborn, better safety...it's a no brainer. Even without the benefits, you sound like you can easily afford it so I would say go for it!
You can afford it. Boils down to personal priorities/preferences - I’d prefer to max isa first and work backwards on the amount spent on a car. If you are going to be using the car extensively; and you want it - go for it. Good luck!
I did something similar. Bought a Hyundai Tucson cash. It’s a really good car, has loads of comfort features, can be nippy, is quite good in all weather and is fairly cheap to run.
It was a nice feeling to be able to buy cash and negotiate on the cash rate without having to worry about/calculate APR etc.
Price for you is irrelevant as you can afford it with or without finance. What's important is the all-in cost per year
This includes purchase, financing, tax, repairs, MOT, servicing. Fuel and insurance may be a factor to consider as well if it varies much across vehicles for you
I bought a 20k brand new car with 0% finance and lifetime warranty. I kept it 11 years and all in it cost maybe 3k year
If I'd bought a cheaper car it might've needed more work, had higher tax, lasted less years and cost the same amount per year for something shitter
Your budget is fine but my recommendation is not to. Get something cheap on pcp as you get all sorts of protection if things go wrong with the car vs paying outright. With the money you have saved up, there’s a good chance you can afford the balloon as sell privately to make a little money back at the end too or if it has depreciated further then the loss is on the finance company, not you
The general rule of thumb I use/hear is never to spend more than half your yearly income in a car. 20k is very well below that. You are in a great financial position and investing wisely so I would defiantly go for it.
However, no matter how much money I make, I always buy used. I find the sweet spot for cars I’ve bought is 2-3 years old with less than 10k miles. It’s new enough that it wouldn’t have any problems (if it’s a reliable car) but old enough that you can get basically 40% off retail price in most cases.
In all honesty, if you want the car and you’re looking to get something reliable (as opposed to a “prestige” money put), £20k makes sense. Get something with good safety rating, and enjoy it.
As a frugal, my rule of thumb is 5% of net worth (10% if car person). you could likely get a perfectly fine car for half that price, so the question is really how much you want to spend
As a bit of a petrol head and a penny pincher. I'd go for something around 10k at your fund level. You can still get something really nice and reliable at that price point.
You can clearly afford it.
I suggest hiring a few different cars first. See how they fit into your lifestyle. A couple of thousand spent over a few months may save you spending 20k on the wrong thing.
Airports always have the best rates. If you pick your times, it's not unusual to hire cars worth easily more than 20k for less the than 20 per day.
Research older cars that can be classed as classic and can potentially go up in value. There's no CG tax on profits on cars.
Don't buy new. Don't overpay.
If it's for work, pick the most appropriate car for the job. e.g. when the Toyota Prius came out, it was perfect for many client facing consultants. If you turn up with a very expensive car the clients think they may be paying too much. If you turn up in a cheap car they think you're no good. The Prius was being bought by Hollywood celebs, greens, tech people, people who wanted to save money. It was difficult to be pigeon holed.
If it's for fun and performance, consider a decent motorbike. Cars will just be a practical tool compared to a bike, unless you're spending over 6 figures on a car.
I've owned the cheapest cars and some status ones (Rolls Royce etc).
I now choose not to own one but I am in a car club, use Taxis a lot and rent what I want when I want. It makes for a simple life. Transport takes less of my time.
There are a lot of changes coming in the motoring industry. Buying and running a car is getting less and less worth it.
Slightly off topic - “take home” usually means after tax!
Oops! Thanks for the clarification
This sub isn't the place for asking about nice cars, they're more than likely to say get a banger.
It looks like you can comfortably afford a 20k car, and if you want it, just do it. Life's for living sometimes!
Enjoy the car!
You can afford it and want it then get it. Yiu can definitely buy a decent small car for much less, but life is for living
I’m in a very similar situation too, and I want to pull the trigger on buying the car so bad but haven’t ever spent this much amount of money on something, so feel so scared.
I take home 5600 per month, and 3700 of that goes into savings (cash/SNS ISA). Living super frugally currently, but I really miss having a car. I have about 35k in cash and 5k in the ISA right now.
The car that I’m looking at is around 27k (C43 coupe, W205, facelift). I don’t have a commute (fully remote) so this car is basically only for fun drives.
But I’m not sure if it makes any sense to get that honestly. It feels crazy to deplete most of my savings to get a car. I know that I could always sell it and recoup some of the money, but it just feels super risky for some reason.
Am I being overly cautious? Or is this fine?
Not to address your question, but pension is crazy more tax efficient than S&S ISA on your income.
If you're putting £12,000 a year into your S&S ISA then you're declining the opportunity to put £20,000 into your pension instead - that's a lot more money in your pocket. This is true until you've got your adjusted net income down to £50,271.
I think someone on your salary should be able to afford a £20,000 car - plenty of people being far more irresponsible with their money - but the ISA just leapt out at me.
Go for it mate. Theres a lot to be said for having a nice car that you enjoy and can rely on
Can I ask how old you are and what you do for work?
And do you have savings in your ISA beyond the cash ready at hand?
28 working as a DevOps engineer for a SAAS company in the West Midlands, and I do, but it's an insignificant amount
That’s cool
One point of view: If a nice car can make your commute enjoyable and if your commute is a big part of your day, you can think of it as something that helps you think and perform better in your career - and ultimately make more money
You can absolutely afford that on your pay. I make almost a third of your pay and got mine for £24k. No regrets
(Dad had recently died, left some money. £8k payment straight away, 5k trade in for my old car, and the last £11k on a 6yr 0% interest loan)
You can definitely afford this. Do you need it? No, there are plenty of good cars for less than 20k, but if you can afford it and that’s what you want to do then why not? Get the car you like. Enjoy life a little. No point saving if you can’t buy the things you want
Literally just depends if you care emotionally enough about having a nice car. You can easily afford it with absolutely 0 issues. Buying a car cash and saving the 500 odd a month is sweet.
I saw you’re looking at a C Class coupe. They look nice but they’re pretty impractical and expensive to repair if stuff goes wrong. Don’t know if you’re a fan but that price would get you a low ish mileage 2021 Octavia VRS with a very good spec on it. They’re faster, more reliable and more versatile. Might also be worth more in 5 years than a 10 year old Mercedes with almost 100k on it.
If you’re not bothered and just want an A to B motor vehicle, then just spend 10k on a decent automatic Golf.
I would recommend borrowing the money and investing that in something. It’s a depreciating asset so use someone else’s money to buy it.
Buy a Mazda mX5, be a kid again!
Don’t do it, buy a cheaper reliable car.
Worth considering 1. Cars either used/new keep getting pricier so might not loose too much in depreciation, depending how long you intend to keep it, so keep in mind what you want of a car in 3,5 years time (or even more if you plan on keeping it) 2. Financing part of it with a loan and investing the money in the meantime. With compounding the profits you might even offset the cost of the interest and you’ll have a sum of money to fall back on and a finance company to back you up should anything happens
You can afford it, it comes down really on will you enjoy it? Particularly will you enjoy it more more then a 10-12k car and putting the other 8-10k into hobbies you enjoy.
You might enjoy the feeling of driving your new car and maybe it's a part of the persona you show to the world it makes you feel good about yourself and you might get a lot if use out of it. Or, you may become pedantic over such an expensive purchase like someone who bought a new sofa but will never take the throw off or lie down on it incase it gets marred in any way, always anxious and alert if kids go near it.
Are cars an interest to you or just a means of transport? Would you have more enjoyment blowing 8k on a 3d printer, gaming pc, sports club or even a dog. Or, is driving through the Welsh countryside or through the Lake District more your thing?
If you can get a 10k+ interest free CC slap half or more on that. Put the rest in a savings acc / bonds etc for the extent of the interest free period then pay it all off. May as well maximise your interest and hike your credit rating while you’re at it.
We bought a £20k car a few years ago, but it's an EV so it's very cheap to run (1.5 p/mile, £400 insurance, servicing is approx £200 every two years).
It’s nice buying something you like, crack on.
I bought a 15k car on a 36k salary at the time, took a loan and paid it in a year. I don’t regret it and the cost/income ratio was far worse for me.
If you truly want and love the car beyond appearances and can afford all its costs, go for it
Depends whether you live with your parents or not 👀
I do not, I have a mortgage on my own property
Your wage doesn’t matter, what does matter is your current outgoings and what you plan for.
If your a live with parents with no bills and no prospects then get a Ferrari……
That's a decision for you alone.
Plenty more with a lower salary than you drive cars I'd describe as stupid and beyond their means. German prestige cars have exploded in recent years as the masses think they've made it when they've got a BMW or Audi with a new numberplate.
I earn similar money to OP but the most I've ever spent on a car is £4.5k on an older automatic Honda Civic which was a few weeks ago. I've got some mechanical knowledge so I can maintain it myself mostly however.
It's dumb if it's a brand new car or a lease.
But if you are buying a used few years old car for cash, thats the best way to do it. It will not go down in value that much and you hold an asset that if needed could resell without major money loss like with brand new.
For comparison, I bought a car for around £20k and I'm on £200-£230k. Do with that what you wish
I note you didn't say "only". I wonder if you've got an Audi R8 for fun and a 20k car for walking the dog and tip runs. :-)
Haha no chance. This is indeed my ONLY car... for now.
I'm in London so already spending this on a car when I frequent santander cycle hires feels unnecessary
Insane
Surely you'd get a salary sacrifice car through work? Reduces your 40% taxable income.
In most cases that just makes you pay for a 50k car though. They are only a good deal if you would have bought the 50k car anyway (and then sold it after 3 years).
OPs suggestion is better. They can buy a nice 3 year old car and the still own it after 3 years costing them way less. And he/she can put the 40% tax savings in his/her pension
This, I have looked at the schemes my company offer (Octopus EV), but it would cost me about 600/month everything included for 3 years, but I don't own the car at the end of it.
THIS.
Really dumb. Move closer to work. Or get a job that’s doesn’t need you to spend 50% of your wealth.
Are you a teenager? What kind of adult comes to Reddit to get advise on whether they can afford something. So strange