2025 environmental science w/ professional placement grad here. Applied to so many jobs since Jan I lost count. Ended up applying to some sales roles and finally (!!) after applying for nearly a year and jumping through hoops like a little monkey have I been offered a role.
Except it is in recruitment. Starting pay 24.5k, to work 39+ hours a week. Commission is uncapped but realistically, how long until I even earn commission? Is it worth having a go at for a year?
My dad was horrified at the contract- I went to uni for 4 years, got a first class degree, experience, for this?
I’ve got two other sales roles, and multiple grad schemes pending, but paused over xmas.
Thank you for posting on r/UKJobs. Help us make this a better community by becoming familiar with the rules.
If you need to report any suspicious users to the moderators or you feel as though your post hasn't been posted to the subreddit, message the Modmail here or Reddit site admins here. Don't create a duplicate post, it won't help.
Please also check out the sticky threads for the 'Vent' Megathread and the CV Megathread.
Please also provide some feedback about the bookmarks related to Mental Health within the side bar in this thread, any and all advice appreciated.
I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.
So commission will work on the basis of each prospect you successfully get placed... But as you know theres no jobs out there to put people in 😅 What sector of recruitment is it in?
It’s engineering and manufacturing! So quite a lot of investment and growth
It is ok. your life is your life, your career is your career, not your dad’s. We all start out choosing a degree when we are barely an adult (17-18 years old) it is very normal to change career. You need to do what you need to do. Life constantly changes, many jobs several decades ago are now no longer relevant. What would people do in that case then? Of course they change career. I wish people would normalise changing career as part of one’s development. Go ahead and do what you need to. 😊
This is lovely to hear, thank you🙏
As well I work in the finance department of a recruitment company and have done so for the last two years.
It's not what my degree is in but it's a job at the end of the day. I just last night met up with loads of school friends and even though we finished years ago most of them are still working retail or part time jobs. The market is very tough. A group of people pushing 30 all struggling to get a foothold in the job market.
Recruitment is a brilliant place to learn some extremely important workplace skills. Even if you just stayed 6 months you will learn loads about people and clients. 5+ years from now you might be in a completely different field but look back at this time as really enhancing your career.
In my time working in recruitment I've learned loads (and I don't do any recruiting just the spreadsheets side of things!). Is it what I wanted to do with my life? No. Have I learned loads? Absolutely.
I'm hoping to pivot into a related and better paying field in the new year. Assuming AI doesn't take over the world, you will be working for at least 40 years so if you spend the first few doing something that isn't what you had in mind it's no big deal.
Take it and keep actively applying to grad schemes, huge areas of recruitment are in shambles for numerous reasons so I wouldn’t see it as a long term career, but it’s money at the end of the day until you find something better
Job market is tough right now especially for Grads, honestly I'd take any job I could get. Recruitment suits a certain type of person so you might love it or you might realise it's not for you either way it's worth trying it and seeing what you think. I will say there's opportunities to earn a lot of money in recruitment and once you've got experience you can jump to other industries if you want. Well done on getting on offer!
Isn’t that below minimum wage for those hours?
It basically is, until you hit commission. It’s 8.30-5.30 5 days a week with one hour lunch break. You’re expected to work as many hours until the job is done
Guessing those hours include lunch break which is unpaid.
almost guarantee it's an hour "Lunch" unpaid- but the industry is notorious for a "grind" culture where lunches aren't taken and you work evenings to "work hard play hard"
You will be chained to a desk making cold calls etc for the entirety of your time, put under relentless pressure if you do not make any sales.
Its soulless and you will rightly hate it. I would rather work in a warehouse all day.
Depends on whether you are good at sales and persuading people.
If you don't like persuasion and talking to random people then yeah I wouldn't take it. It will be hell. If you like calling people and are good at spotting social patterns (is this person really good at what he says he is good at) then go for it. Recruitment is quite lucrative if you are good at it.
The same goes for sales (sales even more stressful because most of them are cold reach out, networking, etc)
In terms of the salary. If it's in London that is a little lower than the norm. But if it's not then I think it's alright. Could be higher but not extremely bad. I would ask more about the cut on the commission which is where you will make most of your money (What percentage you are getting). And the salaries of the people you are recruiting fir so that you can make a educated guess on how much you can earn. Think of a potential candidate who earns £120k then you get a 10% of that annual salary as a commission (£12,000) you place 3 a year you make £36,000 in commissions before tax. Versus placing people who earn £34,000 a year for the same commission.
Same goes for sales. Commission is where the money is. Not the base salary.
Hours are normal nowadays unfortunately.
In my experience confidence can come from knowing you can do something. If you feel that you can be good at it go for it, you can make a lot of money. And then from there you can find out more about you and what you truly want to do.
Subjects like environmental sciences are hard when it comes to finding a job. So it's not you. Don't worry ☺️
I would just find something I feel I can be competent at, not thinking of it as a "career" but as a confidence build up + money and time to find a job you actually want.
Which market for recruitment? Ive been doing exec search since graduating and earning pretty well on USA focused Financial Services roles
I’m in recruitment. Have been for 6 years.
The rough rule is you earn 30-35% of what you bill as take home.
In your first year if you billed 80-100k you’re doing good. Most recruiters bill 120-180k ish.
Good recruiters are 200-300k.
300k you’re very good.
It’s a tough job, first few years suck ass.
You get a good place, not massive on KPIs, you show some enthusiasm, you treat people right it’s a great job.
However 80% of places are full of wolf of Wall Street wannabes.
You’ll learn alot in a year it can’t hurt. You might like it, I now earn £100k+
OP this is the best comment. 13 years in recruitment. 12 at my current company. Best year I’ve earned nearly 300k. Market is a bit whiffy at the moment, earning around 100k. As time goes on you do less cold calling and more business comes via word of mouth. My base is under 40k though, so heavily commission based.
Base is low for that. Think mines £47,000 now.
300k is a great year though. My markets stayed fairly busy which is good.
Don’t really have to do BD anymore. Could probably push and bill twice as much but I’ve got it good with relatively low effort
Very low, especially at principal consultant level with my billings. But the company I work for have a great rep and are quite big in our market so it’s worth it for the contacts and contracts to make life easier. Plus the back office support is superb.
Having done recruitment before it’s very target-driven and you will be put under a lot of pressure, personally I didn’t like the type of environment it created, which was quite a toxic one with youngsters thinking they’re the best thing since sliced bread. A job is a job though and if you find you’re good at it then it’s a good career.
I currently work in recruitment and it is soul destroying atm. The market is fucked and as a new recruiter with no established team around me, up against people who’ve been doing it 20+ years, I’m at the end of my tether, and have been severely depressed because of it. If you can, if you can afford to, avoid it.
Also in this market you more than likely won’t earn commission. Make sure you ask questions about the desk you’d be working. Is it an established desk? When was the last time someone worked the desk? Etc
Having worked in recruitment for a while, a lot about it is how much you put in, realistically though the biggest problem in the industry is that to get paid the big bucks, you're likely going to be working a lot more than those 39 hours. A good agency will really help in the first 3 months, give you jobs to work, candidates to place etc.... a shit one will leave you high and dry and expect you to just pick it up. Unfortunately both types exist.
In recruitment that "+" is going to be doing a LOT of heavy lifting
So there are very few jobs for those with a degree in environmental science - even with a placement year. Advising someone at the moment on a degree.
I worked in a call centre for a year after my degree. Gotta get some cash coming in! I ended up making a move internally after that, so not all bad.
Recruitment is one of those jobs where if it clicks with you, you can earn very well. But I don't think it's an easy job! I know a couple guys who started in recruitment and moved internally to their billing team and ended up as chartered accountants.
Basically, don't beat yourself up. It's a tough market out there, there at worse places to be.
What was your placement year job role and in what industry? I’d start by looking at that and niching down on those types of jobs