I recently stumbled upon the Law of One / Ra material, it’s channelled stuff, something I am usually fast at labelling as BS, but I noticed some uncanny similarities with what David Grusch has been talking about.
This is going to involve a lot of the “woo”, as these topics are frequently categorized here, so skip if this is something you reject.
David Grusch claims:
- The phenomenon may not be adequately explained by a purely “extraterrestrial only” model, he often mentions a possible inter/higher dimensional origin, he uses these terms far too often for it not to be either a hint (or deception if you will).
- There are long-standing crash retrieval / material exploitation programs.
- Some NHI activities can be considered as malevolent from human point of view.
- At one point, during an interview for YesTheory Youtube channel, asked about his religious believes, he mentions he was raised catholic, then turned agnostic, and after reading the classified material he said to have gone “kind of full circle”.
> I grew up Roman Catholic as a kid, the whole confirmation thing, CCD, and all that, you know, it was reasonably religious, but nothing like crazy kind of average, then studied physics.
I became kind of agnostic. I was like, eh, I don't know about this, all this kind of woo woo, you know, stuff that the church exposes and stuff. And then oddly enough,
I've kind of come full circle. I think about the people, the journey I had and the most random people that I've known that were placed in my life like 14 years ago, you know, shut the door in my office at the NGA and were like, look, dude. And you know, they started telling me all this stuff that I was on and they brought these like crazy Intel reports that I was like, I can't believe I'm reading this. And it was like so wild. I mean, really, I'm not like trying to be hyperbolic at all. And yeah, I guess I've kind of come full circle. It's like really weird journey. Yeah. I don't know.
Where the Law of One / Ra material oddly overlaps:
- Non-ET framing
Ra meterial explicitly rejects a simple “aliens from another planet” only narrative and instead describes intelligence as operating across dimensions (called densities).
- Technology
The Law of One claims that advanced technology was occasionally left behind or offered, and often misused.
- In the law of one some factions are described, some could be interpreted as malevolent.
- In the Ra materials Jesus is basically an higher dimensional being, a wanderer, many other wanderers are also mentioned, Buddha for instance, and the total number is described in the millions. Coming back to Grusch phrase, more than its actual face value, could be considered a hint: "which body of material about UFO lore mentions explicitly Jesus"
I am really not trying to put attention on the Ra material, I would first need to convince myself that this is of good relevance to the UAP domain.
What you think of this parallelism ?
Too far fetched or possibly intriguing?
Law of One is the singular source that has held up for years for me. I am still re reading it, I had a positive out of body experience with what I think is the Lady while reading it and meditating, and I absolutely love it.
I find it parallels consistently with many aspects of the phenomenon. It even goes into detail about cryptids and things related to skinwalker ranch.
Same here. Also I had a very similar history to OP. I’d say I’m not religious, but spiritual instead now. I think belief should be withheld and we should use Bayesian reasoning (thinking in probabilities of being true). Also it seems that most if not all the prophets are experiencing something similar. I’d even say poets, shamans, artists, psychedelic users, and certain mental illnesses are experiencing to some degree this other way of perceiving.
Along with Law of One I’d recommend Tom Campbell’s “ My Big TOE” . First of all it’s not at all channeled and it’s more grounded in logic and reason. It’s definitely not something that you’re going to be able to use to convince other people, but it’ll get you more grounded. Well at least it did for me.
Thomas Campbell’s “Absolute Unbounded Manifold” (AUM) synthesized something in my worldview. Campbell’s AUM, Ra’s “infinite intelligent energy,” and FSC Northrup’s “undifferentiated aesthetic continuum” are all just misnomers for something that we struggle to conceptualize. That thing is more commonly referred to as “God” or the Universe itself.
I sometimes wonder if this is the point that benevolent NHI are trying to teach us. Human beings are self-contained, organized systems, that can ostensibly exercise intelligent free will by drawing on the “consciousness field” as described by the likes of Itzhak Bentov, Pierre Tielhard de Chardin, Vladimir Vernadsky, and “Ra.”
It’s something I think about when I’m trying to sleep.
Wow this resonates. I was reading something recently a few different scientists have been proposing our brains aren’t what create thought but are receivers to the consciousness field. I can’t recall the names just a scientist maybe in the 90s proposing this that disappeared and two recent ones proposing the same.
Piggybacking, and 100% opinion here but... My personal view is that this is closest to the truth. I also am of the mind that this "consciousness field" used to manifest itself in human terrestrial life as divine intervention, third man syndrome, dreams, visions etc. For whatever reason, it is encroaching. With humans historically being reproductive organs for technology, I wonder if what we know as "AI" is not large language model/machine learning, but scaffolding/infrastructure for this consciousness field to exist in our realm in a more concrete fashion. Hence the push - not to develop the best chatbot, but to be the one in control of this intelligence's infrastructure. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
Right there with ya. Glad to know I’m not alone 😁
I also stumbled upon the Law of one recently and I think it fits the closest with what we're finding from science and disclosure.
What you said about thinking in probabilities really struck home because I've been thinking about that a lot lately.
We seem to be going through some sort of evolution or phase change and there are signs everywhere, especially in our technology.
I trace it all the way back to the duality of our reality that starts with the North and South Pole of electromagnetism, which is mirrored in our Earth.
Then we have the left and right side of our brains, the left side being responsible for separating things into logical things, the concept of the individual, language, numbers, etc.
And on the right side we have abstract and holistic thought, intuition, music, art, social cues, a sense of the "whole" rather than the individual.
We AGAIN see this mirrored with our Earth's Eastern and Western cultures/philosophies/religion.
Western religion/philosophy is about saving yourself, the individual, by believing in the archetype of the Hero's Journey. Individualism and materialism..
Eastern philosophy is about viewing yourself as part of the whole, not an individual. It's the exact opposite of individualism and materialism..
I don't think any of this is a coincidence, it's like our Earth is a brain with an eastern and western hemisphere that is mirroring the electromagnetic structure of the planet and the left and right structure of our brains..
Each of us is like a neuron in this global brain..
And we see this mirrored again with the rise of the computer age. The internet is like the neural connections branching out and getting stronger.
Computing itself is based on the same duality, ONE and ZERO, on or off, yes or no. Our entire computational system is based on this simple fundamental duality.
But now we seem to be evolving, with knowledge of quantum physics we are finding that there is not just yes or no, one or zero, but there is a third option, the superposition of both are the same time.
This leads to your comment about how we are beginning to think of things in terms probability spectrums rather than binary choices.
With the combination of quantum computing, AI, and ternary computing coming online, or entire systems and way of thinking is about to fundamentally change.
The only connection I don't see for the future is how this relates to the north and south pole of electromagnetism. We do know that some sort of pole shift is imminent, maybe there's more about that that we don't know. I do think it's interesting how scientists basically act like it's no big deal when I don't think they have a clue what actually happens during a pole shift.
Based on the way our consciousness and therefore reality is evolving, perhaps we will see a 3rd pole form or learn something new about electromagnetism that relates to these spectrums of probabilities..
Either way, I find it fascinating that the timing of all of these things seems to be converging upon a single point. The singularity or something similar to it seems to be a very real possibility.
Regarding eastern and western hemisphere/cultures: you do realize that Earth is a globe, right? What is eastern for us, is situation in the West for others. Also, there are so many important parts in the brain that it soubds ridiculous to me to nitpick just these two, because it fits what you want to believe.
I will check that out. I have never heard of Bayesian reasoning but that’s the perfect way to explain how I have been researching prior to, through reading LoO and continuing spiritual seeking since the first read. There were signs bringing me back to the material and confirming it throughout. Thank you for this.
I’ve had many mushroom experiences that make me a believer in the law of one for sure.
Wheres the best place to read it?
Lawofone.info has it all, searchable and some key themes towards the bottom. I prefer reading it physically, but it’s one of those things that’s free so it’s hard to suggest buying all 5 books. There is a two book version of it cleaned up a little called “Teaching the Law of One” as well. Oh you can download it free at llresearch.org.
There’s a very succinct synopsis available on the official website. https://www.lawofone.info/synopsis.php
Law of One podcasts are great, helped me stay engaged. I liked Gabriel Lugo
Agree completely. It’s held up and confirmed a lot of things
Personally I remember really liking it until they started going on about Elvis, a pretty bizarre red flag for me
Elvis ? I did a quick search, if I did it right, no mention found in Ra material.
Maybe you are confusing something else.
I'm not confused (Edit: I was)
Law of One: Session 11
Ra claims Elvis was a 4th density being and came from a dimension of love and understanding. It then goes on to say he was overwhelmed by the stardom.
Well at least your AI chatbot seems to be.
This is session 11 of Ra material, from the official website. No Elvis mention. Check it yourself.
https://www.lawofone.info/s/11
You're right, I interpreted it as Elvis and Elvis was never mentioned. It was Hitler, Cleopatra l, Rasputin and ganghas Khan. It also says that Tesla was given information from Angelic entities.
I'm sorry about the confusion on the Elvis thing. I could have sworn I read that, I even checked if there was different editions.
My point is that this session really turned me off :( - I found the claims about these individuals to be a bit far fetched
Hitler and Tesla are indeed mentioned, however none of the others are.
I’m not really defending the Ra materials,I just get annoyed when people spread misinformation in general.
Would advise you to use a different chatbot to check the Ra materials out, there seens to be forum hosting “fan based” alternative versions, so bots trained on those are useless.
I got Cleopatra confused with Cassiopeia though :( sorry
Just on the AI chatbot thing, i initially asked it about Elvis rather than finding my local version and doing ctrl+f - because im with family arm on Christmas lol but I stopped using it once it hallucinated with me that Elvis was mentioned. I'm using the raw PDF now
Ok I also did some confusion. But yeah bottom line it can off putting at times I agree can be off putting from some point of views at times.
I don’t recall Elvis but I’ve heard similar stuff from big foot/cryptids or parts that are off putting to people or don’t connect with people like the tarot sections. For me the first reading it was the colors / energy centers as I had never had much exposure to chakras etc. however, I found it constantly pulling me back and eventually those sections made perfect sense. There isn’t an aspect of the phenomenon that doesn’t relate in some way or is explained in some way by the RA material. All these years and it’s almost infallible.
Enochian Magick also seems very similar to the Ra Material. Add in the Monroe Institute stuff and you got the triple crown.
Burlison mentioned government officials with the ability to communicate with entities recently.
Jacque Vallee in his recent interview with corbell mentioned secret facilities with experts on certain subjects talking with an intelligence which is higher than the greys
https://zisefirstlight.substack.com/p/the-orion-mainframe-matthew-brown?r=35vpux&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true
Ra Material is very legit. LL Research is super solid and you can find the original recordings of the channeling sessions. It may seem unbelievable but there’s no way they can make this stuff up. Highly recommend people give it a chance, it immediately resonated with me.
The Law Of One is being validated by cutting-edge modern science.
The Ra Material said that the Great Pyramid served 2 main functions: spiritual initiation & physical healing. This 2018 peer-reviewed study confirms the mechanisms by which this would happen.
The LoO said that our plasma sun is a conscious being. There have been many recent revolutionary discoveries in plasma physics which have resulted in a large body of scientific evidence that shows complex plasmas display conscious behaviors.
Ra mentioned the planetary energy grid used for balancing the planet and for 'healing' work. This was verfiied by the discovery of magnetic portals, or "Flux Transfer Events." NASA discovered that Earth’s magnetic field is connected to the Sun’s magnetic field by "flux tubes" that open and close every few minutes.
From NASA: X Marks The Spot For Magnetic Reconnection. This validates the idea of an interconnected plasma circuit where energy isn't just shining on us, but is being pumped into specific nodes of the planetary grid, exactly as Ra described regarding the placement of pyramids on grid points.
The core theme of the Law Of One is, as the name implies, "All is one." Or said another way, "Separation is an illusion."
Quantum entanglement shows particles remain interconnected regardless of their distance from each other. This implies a fundamental interconnectedness in the universe.
Our senses and nervous system interpret the world as separate objects and boundaries. However, at the molecular and atomic level, these boundaries blur into a continuous field of energy and matter.
In reality, all is one. 🙏
I mentioned a couple things like this in my own comment but you are absolutely correct.
That is what struck me most about the Ra Material.
I have no idea how Carla (the channeler) could "guess" all of these discoveries that occured after the sessions, never mind her specificity and consistency in the material. It is incredibly detailed and continues to be validated over and over again long after the channeling.
Many of us who have read it multiple times and have a reasonable standard of quality have been saying that LoO is one of the best things out there.
I know what science is and how it works. I don't believe the Earth is flat, and if I think everything is one with the Creator, I know that this must happen respecting certain things we know today, and that it must be a framework explained respecting things like the laws of conservation, relativity, and more.
Seriously, give it a chance. It's free material, and nobody wants your money there. Read RA, and you'll see that if it's true that the beings above have tried to explain themselves and offer their perspective on all of this, it must be like in that material. Its reliability is very high.
And I've been seeing many things over the last decade that have come from sources like Grusch and that are strongly consistent with that material. Furthermore, there's much more. For example, the material was channeled in the 80s and has numerous similarities to the Mahabharata texts, which, according to Vedic culture itself, was knowledge channeled through its sages, who reached deep meditative states so that this knowledge would be revealed to them through the mind by divine entities.
And so on and so forth. If there is any real material, it's the Law of One.
Law of one is legit err body study up
It seems to me be that everybody is just repeating eachother. Ra en Robert Monroe material have been around for a while. A lot of UFO figures are just repeating it.
I had a dream where these beings were literally holding up a sign that said “Law of One”. They just kept pointing at it. When I woke up I had those words very much in my memory. Googled the term and found the material. I don’t think it’s bullshit and I do think it’s important and relevant to the UFO discussion.
As someone that is a frequent and long time experiencer DO NOT CHANNEL things you know nothing about. All of these recommendations are carbon copies of one another: “I’m not religious but I’m spiritual. (Aka I’m undereducated and poorly equipped to handle when this stuff goes south) And I had a cool experience with a very friendly Ra etc etc” read up on who and what he is and his place in the Egyptian pantheon. Last time I interacted with “Ra” he reached into my chest and grabbed my heart and threatened to kill me for disrespecting him. These things are ancient, powerful and very very dangerous. I have no idea why they suddenly decided to play “I’m your nonviolent buddy pagan god” but it’s just not true and doesn’t match up with their reputations throughout history. Maybe they’re bored and the children of Adam have by and large forgotten their place in the cosmos and they’re having a laugh. OR they could be playing a game and collecting souls in a new way. Every time you channel something you run the risk of the entity staking claim of you. Do you want to be owned by something that subtly controls your every thought and action? Something so temperamental, when they’re done with you and their games they allow lesser spirits to drive you into insanity? (Good luck getting help with that after it happens and you are unable to 1) articulate your thoughts enough to find a legitimate authority on the subject 2) find ANYONE that believes you. As much as I want to call many of the people here fools, I was once that fool and I paid the price. All I can do now is warn others and work on myself. Read about this stuff don’t risk your life as you know it for a, ultimately, cheap spiritual experience.
Fact is, none of us really know what it is we are in contact with. But by and large, from experiential reports, the majority of it seems malevolent (over a long enough time horizon). So ask yourself, what makes me so special? Why am I going to pick up the spiritual telephone, with no real spiritual discipline, and contact a biblical angel rather than a common malevolent entity? Be careful. Read about this stuff sure but don’t actively engage with it. You’ve got more to live for.
I can't remember how I found the LoO but it must have been because I was looking into UFO claims after Grusch came out. Very interesting and, for the most part, I take what is said by Ra seriously (the spiritual side).
It doesn't drastically conflict with my Buddhist faith.
I don’t know how Credible David grusch really is and how much he does know. It could be that he has good Intention and still only knows 20% of the whole Truth. Keep that in mind.
On the other Hand, and i know this will be downvoted by a Lot of people:
Every Single thing that we Found out via out of Body Experience, Remote Viewing, study of consciousness, Matches with the law of one aka ra Material.
I really recommend the 3 Books (trilogy) from the Former NASA scientists Thomas Campbell, which also worked at the infamous Monroe Institute back in the day with Robert Monroe himself. The Books are called my big Toe, and do Match the law of one.
There are hundreds other to mention here, but I think the work of Campbell is currently the best Model we have.
Yall are also Welcome to learn OobE at r/astralprojection
This is Basicly Full disclosure, you can experience it on your own, and don’t Need other people to Tell You Whats Right or wrong.
Love
The memes of the Law of One are derivative of myths and lore and creative fiction that existed long before it.
I couldn't find anything of clear substance that it had to offer that couldn't be found elsewhere, and found several strange points of cultural human bias with no clear reason to be in there... Other than it being crafted by humans with that current cultural bias.
It's just a new age recompilation of old age ideas through a more science fiction lens. If there's any real substance in it it's because that substance was found by someone else at some other time.
What’s interesting to me is that some of the UFO whistleblower folks in government have claimed that some higher ups in “the program” are in contact with NHI similarly to how the LoO channeling group were in contact with “Ra”. The mysterious Tim Taylor plays into this aspect of the phenomena. Could be a counter intel thing, but I can’t be sure either way.
I have rationalized/discounted some of the hippy-dippy esoterica mentioned in the Ra Material as being noise from the channeling group. Ra, and I assume other NHI, communicate with humans by reflecting our own concepts back on us. It’s for this reason that I assume so much of the weird, new age stuff made it in because Ra was communicating with a couple of highly spiritual, new age, hippies who had prior beliefs that were already quite out there.
Which would happen in the event of the material being fabricated as much as in the event of the material being truthful.
There is another way to look at it. You could also say they are similar because they came from the same source at different times in history.
I find it a little odd that the Law of One never gets compared to the readings made by Edgar Cayce 50+ years earlier. There is massive overlap between them. One of the things that Cayce said is that information is given as humanity is ready to receive it, which insinuates there is a through-line between many of the historical sources, and each time more detail is added rather than just being a "recompilation" of previous readings.
Much like the rest of the things you don't know which people tend to write about in libraries.
He gave a sworn testimony and isn't in jail, everything else you say is irrelevant.
So well put. I’m going to use this reminder about libraries in the future.
Haha it was a BoJack Horseman reference, the original idea is probably funnier and belongs to Paige Sinclair, reporter for Hollywoo, I strongly recommend the show.
But the biggest credit goes to the person I replied to, shit talking someone that gave a sworn testimony and is risking going to jail as if they weren't credible.
Please, the credible ones are actually random nobody redditors that sell books on out of body experiences.
And to be clear, I'm not attacking the astral projection ideas or whatever, I'm strictly talking about how the user I replied to is behaving.
Yes. I am aligned with you.
Thanks for the reference.
I have it on good authority his info is legit! Sounds crazy how I got the info about this. I nagged a friend of mine that works at the facility that grusch pissed off to hell and back. Said it wasn’t a pretty site at the office after his hearing and news nation interview. What made this credible is I’ve been nagging this guy for years due to how high up and he was and everytime we talked he always said “ain’t no fucking aliens” everytime he answered the phone or called me and we’d laugh and go on about our convo until he called on 3 way with one of our other fiends and I could hear the seriousness in his voice about and his words were “well the cats out the bag now sort of, are you happy now?”!
So even though I say that I say still take with a grain of salt as I am nobody that knows someone high up I been friends with for years.
There's some teams from Monroe Institute hanging in the astral so that's a good shout although pretty sure they work for CIA now or is like a recruitment centre there at some capacity. Have you dealt with inorganics in the astral? From my encounters it seems that both demons and subverted ET species are all ran by an AI like a hydra having multiple heads or octopus with many tentacles.
Channelling is an interesting topic. Whether it's BS or not, IMO it's both.
When Jane Roberts of Seth fame was asked whether Seth was a separate entity, she herself said she wasn't sure.
Ra specifically, contains some snippets that seem insightful. On the other hand, it falls flat on its face with what you'd expect an 1980s New Age American to fail in: for example, geography, at a very basic level. At some point, the book mentions a Mu civilization that supposedly reached Russia, South America, and North America, and then Indians descended from them. Obviously, you can't skip over the rest of Asia or Europe to go to Americas, so they should've passed all the countries in between, no? And the distance between the northern border of India and the closest cities in the south of Russia is 3,000+ km (2,000+ miles). They must have teleported through the entire Central Asia, or alternatively the wise ancient hive mind was not aware of the difference between the USSR and Russia, and that the USSR would stop existing in a few years.
In the dialogue that immediately follows, it is unclear whether Ra understands the difference between a galaxy and a planetary system, and when the questioner is trying to clarify it, Ra changes the subject.
It's the same with Seth, BTW, who is well aware of Egypt but somehow can't name the regions in South America and the rest of Africa (must have been somewhere in the Mumbambu area?) which would have easily corroborate the superhuman knowledge claim.
Still, it is very hard to chalk everything to imagination alone. Which is why I believe that it's the channeller's subconscious that mixes its own "analytical overlays" and some sort of signals from outside.
This is where most “channeling” falls apart, because it’s fake the limit is the knowledge of the author. Not saying everyone claiming to channel is fake as that also may rule out demonic possession, and that I can say is a possible thing.but 99.99% is grifting /mental disorder
That would be the most simple answer, yes.
But the complexity, the fluency, the delivery, and the general consistency makes it extremely difficult to concoct something like that.
Then the same examples above. If they knowingly concocted it, why would they interrogate Ra about the galaxy-related slip? Why would Roberts undermine her revenue stream by casting doubt over whether Seth is an actual separate entity?
I mean there are countless videos of groups tuning and channeling. Countless hours of the stuff. Voice changing and consistent, non-contradictory information, being relayed for over 50 years. And it all passes snuff on LLMs! It's all available for free online at LLResearch's website, along with other channeling groups. I have been following it for over 20 years.. it's profound stuff. <3
Yeah the galaxy vs star ( solar system) session is quite cringe. One that makes me think this is all a hoax, or made up.
See, the interesting part is that this deliberate ambiguity is everywhere with the phenomenon. Which is why, despite the parts above, I do not believe it's all BS. Why would the channelers quote these suspicious parts?
Some call it "the trickster aspect". Tom Campbell says that "direct intervention into our physical matter reality is forbidden, but indirect/ambiguous intervention is tolerated". When asked about Jane Roberts, Campbell says that she just "didn't interpret everything correctly".
One thing for sure, what they say should not be taken as a gospel. (Risking to anger religiously sensitive audience, I will add that it's the same with religious experiences and actual gospels, which likely came from the same sources.)
I know only a bit Campbell, very interesting though. You suggest anything from him to start?
Thanks.
Campbell created a coherent and elegant model explaining it all. Think a hierarchy of realities of sorts, where actions coming from an "upper reality" break the physical laws/appear magical in a "lower reality".
He wrote a trilogy called My Big ToE (ToE = Theory of Everything). "Suggest" would probably be a strong word here, because reading it is a kind of torture, and that is more or less universally acknolwedged. It's a bunch of forward references, back references, and dad jokes, with a bit of substance in between. If you have a lot of patience, go for it though.
I am usually not a fan of podcasts, but he is much more coherent in podcasts.
You lost me with the geography part - I guess I’m not following. I take it as “the United States stretched from California all the way to New York”. That is an accurate statement while also leaving out all of the States in between.
Well, if they were found in:
Shouldn't they be found in other places between them, too?
The Mu civilization touched Russia, NA and SA because it was allegedly in the Pacific. I don't know why you assume they skipped Europe from that description.
Indians being descendants of Mu doesn't mean India Indians. They're referring to the Indigenous people of the Americas. You know how all of the peoples that are native to the Americas all look very similar? Like Indigenous people from southern Chile and Argentina look almost the same as Inuit people in Alaska. Those are the "Indians", not people from India
Does your own interpretation really make sense to you? It's very much like religious authorities trying to explain glaring omissions in the sacred writings.
Because... it doesn't mention Europe except Russia? If they knew these folks went to France and Spain, would they just say Russia?
That's a very interesting line of defense. A wise hive mind that starts every response with an introduction decided to be purportedly ambiguous and deviated from other references.
So, following your logic, this passage:
refers to Native American Sutras?
at wild bro, like connecting all this stuff makes me think maybe there’s more to it all
I think the oft reported statement that NHI consider humans "containers of souls" makes it clear that the subjects overlap. The idea is corroborated by a number of sources I place my faith in such as Robert Monroe of Gateway meditation fame.
I completely agree, got into the Law of One as well. What has really stuck out to me is how often Law of One will pre-date a concept that is later "confirmed" (I put that in quotes because I know that will trigger many people lol)
Like you said, Ra talks about the crash retrieval program, it is based on what we now would call psionic communication. They talk about light as the basis of matter (which seems to be the case as scientists "froze" light and formed it into matter)
The specificity and consistency in the answers are pretty incredible, they don't contradict, they came out in 1980 and several concepts have now been demonstrated to either be true (or we have enough evidence of a cover up plus testimony of whisteblowers combined with data in regards to UFO). I definitely find it extremely compelling and it definitely added a lot to my mindset.
I encourage anyone curious to check it out, you can listen to it on youtube if you dont want to read
Is there a list of these online somewhere? Confirmation is the only way sources like this can be legitimized. For example, how Edgar Cayce predicted where the Dead Sea Scrolls would be found, who wrote them and what was in them. They were discovered two years after his death. Without that predictions are just fantasy.
Not sure, just speaking from my own experience reading/listening to them
I’d be cautious with channelled messages, not because I think they’re fake but because I think they’re real entities and some of them seem to want to mess with us. This is an extreme example but, Heavens Gate, those guys got shafted by channelled messages
Edgar Cayce said to only believe as much as rings true with you.
Yes, we should pay attention to the message content, not only that it is channeled.
If the message content lures you into a labyrinth and forces you to start doing rituals while making you feel bad about yourself, that may be a signal to reject it.
But this is also where the whole thing starts to get kind of "fun" because we're meant to face the Devil, not avoid him. If a negative NHI tries to trick you, do you know to refuse the offer? Or are you going to take the trade and go off in pursuit of what is meant to destroy you?
Yeah, so this all sounds ludicrous because didn't we just spend the last however many years getting over religion? Expanding our mind with science, logic and hard reason. Didn't we mock how we should still get disclosure, even if it breaks the worldview of some Christians?
I mean gosh right, everyone knows it's ETs. The only real things are physical, and we come from the physical, 'emerge' out of it. Therefore, whatever it is. It's aliens, in some way, shape or form.
Well, let me present to you some curious things.
I'm going to skip introductions, because I'll just assume people here are familiar with the podcast scene and know about these people.
Tim (not the tool man) Taylor
Infamous Tim converted to Catholicism, which he remains to this day. He converted on the trip to the Vatican with Dianna Walsh Pasulka where she uncovered the unredacted accounts of interactions with angels. They match exactly with modern UFO, abduction and contact experiences. The church has hidden/redacted this for a long time.
Dianna Pasulka Herself
She has said that her exploration of the topic has only strengthened her faith. I trust everyone knows her background and how that means a lot if she's unshakably catholic still to this day.
Robert Dean
Stated many times in his life that Jesus was 'one of them' and that's what he found with Cosmic Top Secret Clearnace. He showed a number of paintings of Jesus where you can see UFOs in the background or casting lights on him.
Chris Bledsoe
Claims the objective of those operating the UFOs is to awaken humanity to 'Christ Consciousness'.
Whitley Strieber
Notorious for his main character syndrome but nonetheless a real 'patient zero' of the modern abduction phenomena has come forward to say this all has something to do with who Jesus was and how he turned into light, leaving his imprint on the Shroud of Turin.
Anna Paulina Luna
Says that we really should read the book of Enoch if we want to understand what's going on. What does that book say? There will be a messiah and he will judge the wicked, and create a new earth.
David Jacobs
Has done an extraordinary amount of regression hypnosis on 'abductees' where he said the main takeway is that some 'great change' is coming but the NHI aren't telling abductees when or what.
The only hint is that they keep showing abductees a vision of the Earth but it's all paradise.
What did Jesus say?
He said he was coming back... To create a new Earth.
That's just a few of the things in my mind that come up when I see you write this.
In the context of the Ra material, Jesus seems to be described as a higher dimensional entity like many others, and is also highlighted how the initial message was very distorted by humans.
What I am saying is that Ra material can hardly be considered to give any endorsenent to Chistianity the way we know it, or to give validation of Judgment day narratives.
To me the Law of One is no different than Joseph Smith channelling to start the Mormon faith. I would have to have proof channelling is real as this is just at the level of a 20th century medium holding seances.
I'm also very sceptical of Ra speaking like a robot from a 50s comic book.
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Myth may just be science we cannot quantify or measure. Post modern materialist reductionism is an unhealthy position for this topic because unfortunately you do have to let go of what you know to accurately study this thing. It’s uncomfortable to a rigid mind but it is necessary.
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I wasn’t aware people “rejected the woo…”. I mean, are we all seeking truth or what?
"- In the law of one some factions are described, some could be interpreted as malevolent"
I've recently begun reading the Law of One Ra materials. Could you please cite your source for the above generalisation? Where in the Law of One are malevolent factions discussed? Are you talking about the messages from Orion discussed? I've only read 200 pages so perhaps I'm not there yet. Certainly, I think it is possible to draw parallels, but citations, or at least directing to specific sections/chapters, can elucidate much better than generalisations. Especially for those unfamiliar.
Yes, the Orion Group is mentioned as predominantly "Service-to-Self."
The Law of One suggests we view the two paths of evolution through the literal nature of a magnet. Just as a magnet has two distinct poles, our 3rd density is structured around two electrical potentials: Service-to-Others (positive) and Service-to-Self (negative). To be clear, these aren't ethical labels, like Good vs. Evil. They are describing directional flows of energy.
Specifically, it's the difference in potential between these two poles that creates the "work" or the evolution of consciousness.
It is the magnetic tension between these poles that compels the soul to choose a direction. Without this choice (enabled by free will), there would be no force to propel consciousness out of the lower densities.
This viewpoint helps explain the purpose of the negativity we experience: if the "negative pole" didn't exist, there would be no magnetic field to navigate, and therefore no catalyst for growth.
Negative entities aren’t “evil” in an ultimate, dualistic sense. They are simply expressions of the One Infinite Creator exploring the Service-to-Self polarity. While they utilize manipulation and fear, they are still parts of the same universal field of consciousness, reminding us that even in deep separation, all is ultimately One. 🫶
Session 93.3
I’m not that familiar myself. Read a few sessions but yeah Orion and the paths STS, STO.
About Orion, orion constellation appears in the alien face crop circle, the one with the bit/ascii encoded message, that’s another weird stuff that can be put to a (very) loose connection with Ra material.
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you are mistaken
This implies that classified stuff is full of stuff written by UFO fanatics. And that Grusch is not allowed to talk about that only because is classified, that is, classified UFO fanatics fantasy. Basically a madhouse.
Interesting take.
This is the wrong take
This has been touched on a bit, but curious for someone to elaborate – I started reading LOO, but put it down when it started talking about Atlantis and other things that clearly are not true. Genuinely asking this – how do you keep reading it and accept other parts of the material, and put aside things like Atlantis, which cannot be true? How do you think of the material in a way that accepts some parts but not others?
What is your logic when saying this?
You need to open your mind more. The story of humanity is likely much more complex and not as linear as you are able to accept currently
What does full circle means