Has anyone else noticed that the podcast episodes featuring Curt Jaimungal and Lue Elizondo have disappeared from YouTube?
The only remaining content appears to be short clips or excerpts in which Elizondo shifts his framing from describing reality as “somber” to calling it “sobering.”
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Jim Semivan calls it "the indigestible truth."
To be clear, I don't subscribe to the idea that humans can't digest this truth. We can.
However anytime someone's worldview is overturned there is an uncomfortable adjustment period where we become acclimated to the new paradigm.
Leslie has made it clear that in this instance she was talking about current events, nothing metaphysical.
Indeed, my goal was to validate both that people are saying the next few years might be challenging, and that we don't need live in fear.
When pressed further by Curt, Leslie mentions the climate and geopolitical events. As you say, we don't need to bring in metaphysics to realize that we are reaching a singularity of sorts, from multiple directions. Whether its concerns about Ai, growing income inequalities, wars around the world, or climate collapse, there are legitimate causes for concern.
And by working on ourselves and focusing on positivity, we can navigate the near future without succumbing to fear.
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We’re here - what else can we do but show up fully and authentically for it, with love in our hearts.
Love to see this conversation going on
Hear hear!! 🍻
Star Trek is the perfect culmination and most desirable outcome out of all of this. 🖖🏼
Thanks for bringing that up! All the context and follow up matters.
And the very powerful are afraid of what the results of the disclosure may bring. Their long constructed hierarchy may be threatened, can’t let that happen….
THIS I think, is the greatest hurdle the planet has seen in thousands of years. The old wars for power were rudimentary & based on hope of global possession in few hands, but those playbooks have evolved- and while in this generation humanity’s civilization it has evolved exponentially, with ease, and fairly low maintenance- however humanity has plateaued. This is quite possibly the most perfect moment to strike- with the masses in a state of dis-ease and have become keen to the prolific manipulation, deception, and corruption- finally accepting the defeat resulting from the realization that our entire worldview has been built on fabricated fundamental principles that we are complicit in perpetuating for our own access to the sliver of accumulation that is only afforded to the masses as an appeasement gesture rooted in suppression & with an increasingly obvious circumscription ceiling- I think most are angry enough to quiet quit the very programs that put us here. But it
Humans can “accept” truth …because we have no choice but to
Society? “Civilization”? …those are different.
onological shock
Indeed, the term 'ontological shock' was popularized by the legendary Dr. John Mack in his book "Abduction: Human Encounters with Aliens"
Also important is the work of Dr. Jeffrey Kripal, and his research on "The Flip"
The Flip is the end result of ontological shock. It's the epiphany where a person realizes that consciousness, not matter, is the fundamental ground of reality.
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Is that all it is - the realization that consciousness، not matter, is fundamental? How is that shocking? Isn't that more the norm than not over history?
Absolutely, this truth was known thousands of years ago, and then it was either intentionally suppressed or simply forgotten as materialism replaced it.
For example, ancient spiritual teachings such as the Vedic texts including the Upanishads are ~3,000 years old. Later Hermetic esoteric teachings like Rosicrucianism, Gnosticism, Kabbalah, Theosophy, The Kybalion all reinforce the idea that consciousness is the foundation of reality.
The primacy of consciousness explains all other "high strangeness:"
Missing time, telepathic downloads, poltergeist activity, transdimensional craft, time slips, psychic hitchhikers, shadow entity materialization, synchronicities, poltergeists, interdimensional cryptids, etc.
All of those are initially ontologically shocking, and they're only possible if consciousness, and not matter, is the underlying substrate of reality.
Consciousness creates our reality
Maybe the truth is that there's an end date and the date has been conveyed to humanity.(fatima). That would be pretty indigestible. This may all be cyclical. There have been re sets many times (hancock). Maybe we reach a level of knowledge,awareness,enlightenment, tech(ai) and we become as smart as the gods(genesis story) the gods become angered and the cycle re sets
Or they could be abducting people and children and the govt can’t stop them or allows it. Imagine the outrage. It would delegitimize history and the liberal order in a big way n
Bingo! They do what they want when they want and we can't stop them - and some (small?) portion of what they do is very disturbing.
people also know the government is abducting people too. they use riot tanks to contain the outrage as usual.
These things are categorically different.
yes, but he said imagine the outrage and how it would upset the order etc. I said it wouldnt change any order, as the order is enforced by the government.
Maybe both.
Also hybridization program. That would be extremely disturbing to most of society.
Or that there's some that look so much like us, there's no way for us to know who's an alien and who isn't. Only the aliens know. News like that could cause problems
I think this is accurate. I think the end is very near.
Feel free to come brighten everyone’s day man!
Lol. Sorry.
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This is not an uncommon interpretation of genesis, just so you know.
What was the comment. Some moderator has decided to remove it.. 😒
Something about an interpretation of the genesis story that indicates we are capable of everything God/the gods are capable of, if we were to be allowed to advance to that point. It’s not even really a stretch, IMHO. Read genesis as if God/the angels are just humans with super advanced tech. It hits different.
Why would a mod remove that comment though. That honestly only makes me suspicious as hell of this subreddit.
Nah, mods are good here, there was little to no real value to the comment and it was pretty clearly meant to be antagonistic.
It was inflammatory, which was why I replied to the comment and why the mods eventually removed it. We need more civil, open, and rational discussion, not more disinformation trolls trying to muddy the waters and create drama.
I'm not meaning to be rude, but no one knows the truth. If you find out you're a slave, is that something you get acclimated to? Or if you find out this is the last decade for humanity?
Ever since I was born as a J.W., I was taught that Armageddon would come at any moment. By the time I was 5, I never thought the world would last long enough that I'd get to see 6. And so it went for every year afterwards, for decades.
Instead of speculating on whether Armageddon will come, or that this is a prison planet, I focus on truths that we can know and can digest, even if they're initially ontologically shocking.
The term 'ontological shock' was popularized by the legendary Dr. John Mack in his book "Abduction: Human Encounters with Aliens." Dr. Mack used the term to describe the cognitive dissonance someone feels when they understand that materialism is false.
Also important is the work of Dr. Jeffrey Kripal, and his research on "The Flip"
The Flip is the end result of ontological shock. It's the epiphany where a person realizes that consciousness, not matter, is the fundamental ground of reality.
In the famous words of Pierre Teilhard de Chardin:
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Hey Pixelated - Leslie actually updated and answered about this video. It had nothing to do with NHI and everything to do with some people in the military talking to her about potential socio-economic issues
She talked about this in the latest Anomalous Coalition event here
Comment has been updated.
Thank you my friend! :) merry Christmas!
My pleasure, Merry Christmas!
Its arrogant in the extreme to believe that they rest of us are incapable to not only accepting, but even being happy with the potential news and differences.
That comes from a position of, we have lots to lose if the masses are enlightened to reality and we will fight to the death to protect what we have. (Them/gatekeepers)
I agree, the human race can be snuffed out by nuclear weapons by other humans at any moment but yet they cant tell us the truth about reality.
I guess if human Armageddon is triggered by nuclear war we will all learn what the phenomena is all at once.
But Semivan has digested it. He seems like a normal dude not an enlightened master.
Exactly right, which is why I disagreed with him. He demonstrates that it can be digested just fine.
Agreed. If humanity digested near self annihilation with TWO world wars, I'm certain we can gobble this right up, easy.
This is interesting (and I don't disagree with you), but you've made a statement not knowing what the truth is, as well as referring to "we" speaking on behalf of the human race.
Also, the uncomfortable adjustment period you speak of, could literally cripple the world we know if felt/reacted by enough numbers..
that's the issue, the adjustment period, folks are worried about the damage to society and the economy during this transition. None of us can predict just how much of an impact it would have because none of us know this "hard truth". I'm guessing its not as simple as "surprise aliens are here".
Maybe it’s… we are basically ketchup packets full of souls. No after life. Just a package. Nothing more, nothing less
There is a large amount of peer-reviewed scientific evidence that supports both the validity of near death experiences and memories of past lives.
"Near-death experience in survivors of cardiac arrest: A prospective study in the Netherlands"
Van Lommel et al., The Lancet (2001): 344 cardiac-arrest survivors; systematically compared people with vs. without NDEs and followed them 2 and 8 years later for life changes. A landmark prospective design in a top journal.
"AWARE - Awareness During Resuscitation - A Prospective Study"
Parnia et al., Resuscitation (2014): Large, multi-center prospective study; documented cognitive themes during cardiac arrest, with a small subset showing “full awareness.” Includes targeted tests for veridical recall.
"Awareness During Resuscitation - II: A Multi-center Study of Consciousness and Awareness in Cardiac Arrest"
Parnia et al., Resuscitation (2023): Examined consciousness and electrocortical biomarkers during CPR; reported a spectrum of experiences including NDE-like recall and measurable brain activity patterns during resuscitation.
"Measurement Foundation for NDE Research"
Greyson, Journal of Nervous and Mental Disease (1983): Construction, reliability, and validity of the Greyson NDE Scale, the field’s most widely used, validated instrument for distinguishing NDEs from other states, crucial for rigorous, comparable results. (PDF).
Researchers like Pim van Lommel have shown that consciousness can exist independently of the brain. Near-death experiences (NDEs) provide strong support for this, as individuals report heightened awareness during times when brain activity is severely diminished. Van Lommel compares consciousness to information in electromagnetic fields, which are always present, even when the brain (like a TV) is switched off.
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There exists scientific evidence that supports reincarnation.
Rigorous, peer-reviewed research done at the University of Virginia has documented over 2,500 examples of children who have memories of past lives.
https://med.virginia.edu/perceptual-studies/our-research/children-who-report-memories-of-previous-lives/
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TL;DR: Consciousness is fundamental.
We also have peer-reviewed studies which support the primacy of consciousness.
Only the body dies, the soul is eternal.
It's important that we never lose our intellectual curiosity in life.
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I don’t think humans can handle it tbh. I’m starting to think the guys and orgs that go out of their way to hide it might actually be telling the truth when they say it’s for the best that we don’t know. I heard a really really disturbing theory put out there (far beyond prison planet, reptilian food, doomed humanity theories) that haunt me. I honestly can’t remember it anymore, I truly believe my psyche blocked it, but it left a permanent mark that makes me instantly anxious af. There’s been stories of military men committing suicide and presidents breaking down after hearing some of it. I’m not sure if they heard the exact theory I’m referring to, but if true, imagine the global depression, recession, problems and all the side effects.
Humans will do what we have always done, cognitive dissonance.
I don't agree with that at all.
Let's explore the hypothetical scenario where all humans possess immortal souls, and an eternal hell exists as a consequence for moral failings. We'll also assume that Jesus' teachings provide a reliable moral compass to steer us away from this hellish fate. Under these premises, I argue that capitalist societies around the world would inevitably collapse, giving way to fundamentally different social and economic structures.
I've experienced first-hand that hell is a state of mind, just as heaven is.
For 36 years I was trapped in the Jehovah's Witnesses cult. Being raised in that toxic atmosphere gave me incessant anxiety and loneliness. Eventually my drinking problem spiraled into full-blown alcoholism. I lost just about everything to booze, and then I realized I was in a cult.
I was in Hell.
Conversely on the Heaven side, I've gone from being an overweight depressed alcoholic to getting sober, losing 65 pounds, quitting cigarettes and opiates, getting off all medications, getting in shape and discovering that daily meditation is the key to unlocking my highest potential. Now at 47 I have never been more content in life, I've finally found inner peace. 🙏
So I've lived both a hellish and heavenly life and the only thing that changed was my mind.
Above when I was describing people's worldviews being overturned, I was speaking from experience.
The only thing to fear is fear itself.
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Congrats man. You should stop by r/stopdrinking. Successfully leaving religion while gaining your sobriety would definitely offer a unique perspective to some people struggling to get on the wagon
Beautiful insight.
Having also left a religious cult, I want to wish you a Merry Christmas. It can be a weird time of year for us. 🫶
I'm so glad you escaped! 🙌 Saving oneself from that kind of prison is one of the most difficult challenges a person can overcome. I'm proud of you!
Mental and physical freedom from a cult often comes with the highest price imaginable. The majority of former cult members had to leave behind all their family and friends, and that's been true for me as well. Everyone I knew in life for my first 36 years have all shunned me and consider me dead. My mother doesn't even know that I've made her a grandmother to a wonderful 7 yr-old because she shuns me.
And yet I can proudly say that leaving the cult was the best thing that's ever happened to me! All of my other achievements in life stemmed from first finding true freedom.
I love seeing others taking control and winning at life. You deserve all the congratulations. And Merry Christmas to you as well! 🫶🌲
Merry Christmas to you u/Pixelated!
Similar background myself and this is always a strange time of year, BUT, we get to lean into and honor the season in ways we choose.
There is joy and repair in that willful realignment.
And isn’t that happening in the macro of sorts as we speak?
Hey Slow always good to hear from you, and congrats on freeing yourself from a high control group. 🥳 Well done m8! And Merry Christmas!
Yes to both. People are waking up around the world. They're leaving oppressive religions and looking into spirituality instead. Many are questioning their faith in previously-trusted institutions & govts. They are taking a critical look at their own worldview and discarding anything that no longer resonates as true for them.
This willful realignment is why I disagree with Jim Semivan's quote above. People today are digesting truths that were previously too uncomfortable to consider.
While it's true that the initial cognitive dissonance is uncomfortable, when we push through it, it's like we are exiting from Plato's Cave. Those who are waking up are seeing reality for what it truly is, including the good and the bad.
They are the embodiment of the phrase,
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That IS the secret. We have the power to change our reality with our minds.
💯 This is possible because consciousness is fundamental and everything else that we perceive to exist is emergent from it.
Thankfully this truth is finally entering into the mainstream. For example, here's a recent peer-reviewed study about the primacy of consciousness.
Congrats kicking smoking, alcohol and opiates.
I know firsthand how incredibly difficult those ball and chains are.
I had to kick all of those on top of cocaine and benzos.
That's incredible, excellent work!! 👏 🎉
Yes absolutely, addictions are mental and physical prisons, in much the same way that a cult is.
I also had to quit benzos & coke. I was in such a dark place back then that I was looking for anything that gave me a temporary escape from my reality.
I'm sure achieving all that you have has given you an insightful, compassionate outlook on life. For example, when seeing people struggling with substance abuse, I see myself in them, and it gives me hope for them. <3
You should look up near death experiencers from hell on Youtube
This is just one of MANY:
https://youtu.be/hV0SmcxLJoY?t=802
Additionally, Diana Pasulka has written books on hell, which is likely the reason she was recruited to be part of the disclosure process.
EDIT: There are a lot of similarities that people point to when they talk about hell, including “living, glowing, hot rocks,” among other things.
Yes I've seen many dozens of NDEs and I can't recommend them enough! Watching others relate their profound experiences has completely removed my fear of death.
However to understand them clearly, we need to understand human psychology and its connection to the nature of reality.
For instance, people will see their own religious figures during their NDEs.
If you live in India, you'll likely see someone such as Krishna. For indigenous Native Americans, many report encountering the Great Spirit or Creator, if you live in southeast Asia, you'll like see the Buddha.
This can be explained with the excellent quote:
So yes, those who are living in fear can see a hellish experience. That does not make hell literally true, as an external physical place. We create our own realities through our individual beliefs, emotions and perspectives.
I'm sure it exists but I would love to see a very large data set on NDEs: all the variables about a person and their experiences and how they died, where, etc.
Also, if I'm an immoral person who thinks I'm going to go to heaven because of universal salvation, but another person, who does the same things as me, thinks they are going to Hell, will the NDE or afterlife be different for them?
Again, I strongly disagree.
Complete atheists report witnessing the same phenomena as religious and semi-religious individuals when describing hell.
Thank you for your thoughts, and I enjoyed this discussion. I wish you the best in life. Be well. <3
You too. <3
Some Christians claim that any NDE which deviates from biblical teachings is “false,” despite their uniformity worldwide. In fact, NDEs which follow strict biblical teachings are outliers: https://near-death.com/religion-and-the-nde/
Of course people will believe what they want to believe, but if one considers the available evidence it is very clear that NDEs show that love and compassion are what matter most, and that there is no judgment other than what people impose on themselves.
There had been substantial research into near death experiences and what people report, and what the evidence suggests is that very few people have “hellish” experience, it seems to have no relationship to their actions, and it’s temporary. Researcher Bruce Greyson believes it may actually be related to ego death, and notes that it seems to happen to people who are resisting the experience and trying to control it.
It’s also worth noting that most people who have NDEs come away saying there is no single true religion, and they typically come away more spiritual but less religious.
Yes, I thought the same for a long time as well - until I began to see things more clearly.
And so on.
I agree with the hypothesis that we have souls, and that much of what Jesus taught does correlate with what is communicated in the bulk of NDEs, but the same data overwhelmingly conflicts with anything to do with harsh judgment. People can confirm pretty much hypothesis they want if they look at outliers (eg prison planet).
So you’re saying if the other 50% that are not religious become religious everything falls apart? Nah.
Yep, we've had zero point energy since the late 70s and they're hiding it for military superiority. We need another nation or two to figure it out and force it into the public domain
Everyone seems to miss the part where he talks about our history being false or untrue….castles that were vitrified….buildings dug out of the ground
It makes perfect sense if this is all relics of past civilizations.
Please expand further, I am definitely curious!
Ever wonder where the nubs came from on all the stone work? If you look at ancient maps you start to find things like this. Then ask questions like isn’t the Great Wall of China pointed the wrong way. Why is there a frozen spot in Iceland where these 3 giant buildings use to be. In Petra why is there an obvious signs of rock melting. Like there was either an ancient war or someone did that on purpose for us. Then you start to find out that the Catholic Church was complicit in this stuff. You realize that the 56 miles of shelving they have for ancient books and no one allowed to see is them hiding things from us.
You brought links...I like you! Not many people follow up
If we’ve had ZPE it means that people have been needlessly slaving away for decades. The leadership of this world thinks it’s better that humanity be enslaved rather than free.
Also, we’ve wrecked our planet for no reason except to keep the hierarchy in power.
Zero point energy will just make it easier for them to enslave us.
1898* Tesla ran a farm with it.
That was Geo -magnetic, not zero-point, but there's no God damned reason we shouldn't be using that, either!
Proof?
1870s per dark journalist/ etc
Zero point energy is a real term in physics.
Zero point energy as a free energy source, or whatever, is entirely fictitious.
I am convinced that the truth is in the end information about what we really are.
Think about the intelligence officers that brought home events to their families after studying materials from skin Walker ranch. They believed it. Wasn't some reddit post rabbit hole. They saw & believed. This impacted their families.
Now imagine the entire population of earth believes & all the time it was about to not have them believe it because of what they may manifest.
Somber enough for me
Double slit experiment but for alternate timelines: improbability becoming a certainty due to the act of observation.
Damn, that makes it make so much sense.
So like, if 51% realize the bubble of reality pops?
I read 60% on fl dot org
I don't know about this. I'm skeptical.
But let's do it and turn the world into a giant fantasy sci fi horror open world RPG.
I didn’t hear about this. Where can I read about the SW/intelligence officers?
Look up the “hitchhiker effect,” that’s the term often used to discuss the idea of experiencers having friends/family start to have their own encounters
Very good overview on this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/skinwalkerranch/comments/wu85br/exactly_wtf_is_the_skinwalker_ranch_hitchhiker/?hl=en-US
A great thing to link this to is looking into "Tulpas"
I think it's all the same mechanic.
Information (and belief thereof) is the virus
Is it possible the context for some of this and the truth that they are referring to being difficult to handle is how many people have died to keep these things secret? Perhaps thats where a lot of reluctance to disclose is coming from because of how absolutely cut throat the defense industry is and how many potentially high value individuals who were well loved and respected at large by the public (scientists, military veterans, average people etc...) and revealing just how deep the treachery goes plays a role in what is somber and sobering about the phenomenon? Just how dark and greedy corporations and people who were and potentially still are in power really are?
This is an entirely new way of framing this theory for me, and it *would* be horrible to learn.
That’s a modern classic. Nice to see it making the rounds again.
I'm sorry, but the current state of our world is pretty somber.
That wasn't the question.
The question was how the world would react if people found out the truth about the nature of our reality.
That's my point. The people I interact with in my personal and professional capacities hate, hate, hate the current state of the world. No announcement on the nature of reality will make it more somber. If anything, misery loves company.
This is the exact same line of thought I have, and the reason why I struggle to make anything out of the 'somber' circus. Just look around, people.
Humans are already on their way out because of extreme (and unmitigated) climate change, massive amounts of pollution, growing infertility, skyrocketing poverty and a whole host of other nasty problems that are squarely of our own making.
The world is already somber and getting worse by the day, so I don't know what could possibly be worse than this to the point of warranting such a massive coverup. Existence is shit for many people and I'm not sure revealing the truth would be such a shock at this point.
Aliens planning to eradicate us to save whatever's left of the biosphere the same way we eradicate pests that kill our crops? Humans being trapped in some sort of soul farm? Definite confirmation that there is nothing after physical death? Visions of the future that depict nuclear war? Abductions carried out by malevolent or indifferent NHIs? A coming mass die-off of humans?
Literally none of this would be shocking to me. I've thought long and hard about it, and there really doesn't seem to be any explanation that would truly leave me in a more somber mood than I already am lol.
So I say bring it on, whatever 'it' is.
Let me share my experience with everyone. I was interviewed by Ross Coulthart, but he never aired our interview. My story happened at different times, but that’s what it took for me to piece it all together to come to the conclusion I came to about what’s going on with the UAP topic. I served in the Marine Corps, Army, and National Guard as a military policeman for 10 years and I’m a disabled Operation Enduring Freedom veteran.
The first part happened around 1978 when I was around 4 years old. A UFO landed next to the trailer park we lived in and was seen by me, my mother, and little sister. My younger sister was too young to recall it. I remember seeing it on the ground a bright glowing orangish red object that looked like a fire, except it moved. The next thing I recalled was the next day my mother, sister, and I going through a barbed wire into the field to the place this object landed. After going to the field, we didn’t talk about the incident for over 40 years.
Fast forward to 2009 and I’m serving on Eglin Air Force Base with my National Guard unit about to deploy for the second time. Eglin has an Alabama National Guard training area for those that want to Google it and don’t believe a National Guard guy would be training with the Air Force. I went to a restricted radar station with one of the airmen I was patrolling with located several miles within the base. Inside the facility, their mission statement reads, “We monitor all space activity terrestrial and extraterrestrial from planet Earth”. I immediately froze in place and wanted to leave. I also couldn’t talk. The day my unit arrived at the base, we were told “space junk” happens to crash into the waters around the base and if we happened to be patrolling with the marine patrol we may get to see some of it.
I locked all of this away until I started seeing some crazy things in the air with my fiancée. I found a man that was a radar technician at Site C6 for 3 years and he confirmed to me that the U.S. tracked UAPs from Eglin at Site C6. This radar tracks objects 20,000 nautical miles away from the Earth the size of a grapefruit and can track thousands of objects at once. When I finally brought up the sighting that my mother, sister, and I saw in Georgia my mother almost jumped out of her skin. She jumped and said, “You remember that”? I told her that I couldn’t get it out of my mind from all these years. She went into telling me about an experience she had before our encounter. One night my mother, her boyfriend, his brother, and another girl were traveling on a road in their car and her boyfriend’s brother noticed something from the back window of their car from where he was sitting. A UAP was following their car. His brother, Ronnie Thomas came up missing a few years later and has never been found. He’s not on any missing person’s lists in Georgia at all. When I asked my mother why she didn’t report our sighting, she told me people were coming up missing and people that reported seeing UFOs were out in psychiatric hospitals.
So, I believe the big secret about UAPS is that we are powerless to do anything about them and our government knows it. I came out before David Grusch and told my story on a few podcasts. One of them was gaining a lot of traction until the interview was tampered with at the 24:47 mark. Here’s my Vetted interview with my full story https://youtu.be/_xZS6NqgdNY?si=YSR8w0yM2_SYBktD . Now, here’s a recent interview I did on the Close Encounters Club podcast https://youtu.be/qc6sbsZvgyY?si=rIEwOHGUDHydzYzu . Patrick the guy from the Vetted podcast refuses to address the tampering with the interview he did with me. I was surprised someone would go through the trouble of tampering with what I had to say. I mean if I’m not telling the truth, why bother?
There’s a reason the government has spent 60 years building deep underground military bases.
There’s a reason the ultra rich are building doomsday bunkers that are off the grid and self sustaining.
There’s a reason Lou moved to Montana and built his own shelter.
Something is coming and most of the world is f¥€&ed and they know there’s nothing that can save us.
Enjoy and savor what time we have before the crash because I fear that things are going to get real bad real soon.
Yeah, I'm afraid you might be right.
There's a reason why Elizondo said this in Age of disclosure:
I’m gonna buy a little bit of camping gear and stockpile a few foods that won’t spoil just in case there’s a chance to ride something out. If there’s something like massive EMP weapons or solar storms all electronics will be fried as well as most cars.
My own theory is that the greys are grown from human dna and genetically engineered by another species. Maybe they can’t handle our atmosphere, or maybe they’re giant insects and we’d be too freaked out if we saw them and they wanted to avoid that. They don’t view cloning and growing workers as bad - since that’s essentially what they are as insects - but we would. How would you tell the public that the traditional aliens are actually humans with altered appearances?
Maybe they are humans from the future that escaped the last cataclysm, thrived elsewhere, and are helping us dapt to the next re set
Ahhh well... So, listen, I can't say there's no such thing as time travel. I just don't know. But... going back in time would be ridiculously hard and cause a lot of problems. Considering that everything in the universe is moving, to the point of where we don't know if there are even static points in the universe, how could you calculate the proper position to be in if you traveled back to a point in time?
Let's say you did find the correct point. Why come back to now? Why not go back to pre-humanity and establish a modern civilization?
But then there's the problem of if there are any evil beings in the universe, they could just jump back to a point in time and stop the formation of a planet. Or a star.
Maybe they're not necessarily going back in time. Maybe they're just current beings that exist parallel to us.
The reality is that they have probably killed and hurt a lot of people over the decades to keep whatever it is they may or may not have under wraps, and that it coming to light would probably obliterate whatever little reputation they still have left.
Willingly keeping tech that could benefit humanity hidden and intimidating/killing anyone who has a problem with that is probably what 'somber' refers to.
The phenomenon itself has never been the problem. It's the humans involved who are.
Yeah that's weird... he marked them as private. And even though he's publicly said he's stepping back from the UFO topic, other related videos still remain public on his channel.
Well Lue did say during the hearings that he had signed new NDAs. My guess is that his interviews between his resignation in 2017 and then have been gone over and censored/removed because of things that the gatekeepers think should have remained unsaid. I don't think Lue is a "bad guy". I think he most likely is what he said . A patriot who got frustrated with upper management and did what he thought was right. He certainly accomplished his mission. This subject is no longer fringe. It's just being heavily curated imo
I don’t think he’s lying, per se, but I, personally, am not a huge fan of the threat narrative he seems to represent. And I definitely don’t think anybody does what he’s doing without someone/s controlling from behind the scenes,
It's clearly curated for public consumption and meets the "psy-op" narrative conditions too neatly. Lue is a pawn, as far as I can tell, but for whom? And is he a willing participant or unwitting stooge? Does it matter if disclosure is the end game? Are these just the necessary steps to authoritative disclosure? Or are they trying to force the hands of the legacy program by overwhelming them with public knowledge of the topic?
These are my unanswered questions, so far. I hope we can answer them soon
The truth is that ultimately we are all one being and we treat each other terribly.
If you found out you were the same exact being as all of the animals that you had eaten, how would that make you feel?
What should we eat then? What about the cries of the carrots?
That's stupid and you know it.
You may think it is funny now, but the books of Enoch clearly describe that you will be judged by those very animals.
I found the one where the orbs in Lue’s house were discussed on Spotify. You’re right that it’s not on his YouTube. The others might be there as well. I’m guessing Lue didn’t like having his feet held to the fire and they had some kind of falling out.
There were 2 people being interviewed at some point. Both in separate locations however when one got up to pee you saw him rush behind Lue briefly and Curt thought he was being had.
Yes, him and Sean whatshisname. That was a different and earlier one but also very shady.
To me it's wrong of Kurt to have removed those videos. He made them, own up to it. And, to me, I haven't completely ruled out Lue.
Also, lately it seems that sometimes Kurt is impatience or almost abrasive with his guests. It makes me uncomfortable - unless I'm completely wrong.
The somber part is in applying new knowledge in hindsight to old norms, and reflecting on what humanity has done to itself and the world, over the past couple thousand years...and especially the last 70.
Depending on how you have lived your life and what comes out....the truth will be somber. It has nothing to do with the future, with a new understanding, that is significantly less somber.
This is nothing to fear. It is necessary for growth. I have to assume he regrets saying it. Or perhaps not.
Not that it was incorrect, but it was his attempt to be careful, and everyone has still misinterpreted it and turned it to fear.
This is just my opinion/I have no sources.
Humans were created as a slave race and never set free.
I feel pretty free tbh. Why don’t you feel free?
Do you have lots of money?
Below average middle class I’d say
How can one feel free when so much is oppressing us? It feels like the only way to escape to freedom is through wealth...
This is what the powers that be/gatekeepers want us to believe. A slave, who can imagine freedom, is already free.
Humans have never been in control and you can’t do anything about it. Things we see as inhumane acts how could someone do this to their own kind (maybe they’re not human or influenced/controlled by something that isn’t).
We were originally bred to be slaves.
We are nothing more than insects in a galactic "ant farm".
It's true that the implications of non-human intelligence interacting with us can be unsettling. Many seem to sense that the truth is being suppressed for various reasons, which only adds to the somber reality we face. The potential for technological advancements being withheld from us is indeed troubling.
whatever is going on, its funny how people who know a bit of the details keep living their lives just fine yet anyone else who would find out couldn't possibly handle what they know..
i think curt deleted all his UFO stuff didn’t he?
Kurt won't disclose the Lue Videos because we can't handle them. We should be able to make up our own minds about the truth of Lue's statements. Also Kurt pressed him hard on the orbs in his house better than anyone else.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh59bquSHEo
It is fairly obvious we are living during a 6th extinction.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/series/sixth-extinction
Pole reversal is well underway, look how much it has moved since 1900.
https://indiandefencereview.com/its-official-earths-magnetic-north-pole-has-a-new-position-and-its-heading-deeper-into-uncharted-territory/
The zoo theory begins to make a lot of sense when you research the astronomical transients, sphere network, and why these things have been surveilling sensitive sites.
They will have a lot of clean up work to do because we are stupid humans. We build everything to stick to the ground. Wait until we have a Fukushima style disaster but instead of one, it is many. You cannot exactly pick up nuclear facilities and drop em off some where else.
We deserve this for how many nuclear bomb tests were done to this planet.
We deserve what?
A slow drawn out extinction (look how many species we have wiped out). It wont happen over night and things will only get worse for the next generations of humans. At some point the earth will go in to another ice age. Life is all about cycles and balance. The earth itself has an imbalance.
hunch is we are a gmo invasive species that got loose on a dna bank planet
It depends on who you are and what's important to you. If you believe that the Bible is real and God is an old dude in the sky and find out that we were created by a different race and all the information passed down was from them, that may be somber for you. For other people it's just disclosure and interesting.
I may be wrong, but I think the majority of the non-western influenced countries believe in some idea of God, so it would be quite a shock. Even westerners, although religious folk there do not make up the majority
And then there’s people like me just waiting for actual proof of anything…
Curt Jaimungal is the most boring podcast host. He has no conversation skills, just asks question after question supplied by his viewers. He doesn’t understand his guests or their emotions and just rattles off questions. No personality.
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Any clue as to what this indigestible truth might entail?
The indigestible truth is the conspiracy to associate the word 'indigestible' with ufology. I find it forced.
Likewise.
No free will or free will is an illusion would mess up a lot of people. I wouldn’t love that revelation lol. Humans as genetic experiments like we domesticated dogs might upset a few people. Or earth being the equivalent of a zoo for a more intelligent alien species.
They need to spill the beans. We want to look through Galileo's telescope.
I wonder if it has anything to do with the recent Joe Rogan interview with Jay Anderson. In the interview, Jay mentions Lue in relation to some Twitter drama regarding Red Panda Koala.
Curt mentioned in his interview with Jesse Michaels that he liked red panda Koala or that he made good documentaries.
Maybe he decided he didn't want to be a part of the "official narrative" anymore.
No. The podcasts have been erased from Youtube a long time ago.
Damn. I thought the timing lined up. I guess that's just when I heard about it.
For a period of time I listened to about a hundred or more near death experiences and before that more than a hundred UFO and direct alien being abductions and contacts. Many near death experiencers and a lot of alien abductors saw the same type of beings. Some were tall mantis insect type beings, small grey beings who were very unemotional as most have spoken of, short squat blue beings who were very nice and a dark tall shadow figure. Some got to the point they could summon some of them or were frequently visited and taken thru the ceiling out of their homes. I wasn't sure what to make of this until I found out a couple of those who were frequently being abducted became Christian and prayed for it to stop or for them to go away and they would or did. Another thing is if the person who had a near death experience was a Christian they never saw any other beings other than Jesus and other humans. So my conclusion there are three distinct and different worlds or dimensions. One where God and Jesus rule, one where the other than humans rule and hell. A few near death experiencers went there and it was described as a place of total brutality, rape, horror and beatings with no escape. or death.
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Somber for billions of us who don’t prescribe to a very narrow version of Christianity.
They'll hear the "very narrow" Gospel of Christ before mid-century and make up their own minds.
The confidence of Christians reminds me of the marketing material for the Titanic stating it was practically unsinkable.