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  • you did nothing wrong. she is an adult and made her choices. just show up for your daughter and ask her how you can support.

    best of luck

    Honestly sounds like she got stuck in a toxic relationship. The guy was the GM, may have threatened her job etc.

    probably he charmed her at the beginning and then years of trauma bonding. this world is so sick sometimes

    That’s not trauma bonding

    Yeah, just because she's 30 doesn't mean she can't be taken advantage of by someone with power or authority. It's possible it was with eyes wide open too, but the way the GM is described makes me feel otherwise.

    5 years ago she was only 25. With zero dating experience and likely daddy issues (given the background by OP). An abusers wet dream.

    It still doesn’t relieve her of responsibility for allowing it to go on so long. She wasn’t locked up in a basement. She was sending and receiving lewd messages. Her social skills clearly aren’t as good as her mom thinks. Married men with children are not part of the dating pool. That should be common knowledge. And hiding under the desk like Monica Lewinsky doesn’t show a whole lot of maturity or intelligence either. Nothing says you are being used for sex like being literally hidden from view.

    Have some self respect and only date people who are legally and emotionally available and ready to be in a public relationship with you.

    She didn’t get stuck, she chose to have an affair.

    Never dated before, he was her boss and known to be a terrible controlling man, etc.

    There’s a gray area, not everything is black and white. Yes, she made a very bad choice, but this guy also sounds manipulative and like he took advantage of a naive underling

    Even so, she’s 30 now and she isn’t claiming he locked her in a dungeon or anything. She could have quit, found another job, and blocked him on everything. She chose to stay and send lewd text messages for funsies.

    Without more info, going off what is in the post, sounds like an abusive power dynamic.

    Threatening her job, status, etc.

    You’re making assumptions

    You are as well. I am operating off of what is said in the post.

    Nothing in the post said he threatened her. She kept it going for 5 years. She could have had him fired if she wanted long before.

    The OP is her mother who only just find out about the situation and has no intimate knowledge of it, you're just showing your misogynistic bias.

    That’s a leap. Wow. Well done. Now it’s misogyny to say a woman shouldn’t engage in a years long affair.

    it’s misogyny to be trying this hard to blame the woman when the man held a position of power the entire time. is this your first time learning about abusive relationships or are you fully this stupid entirely unironically lmao

    considering he is a manager with authority above her, it is very easy for him to take advantage of the power imbalance

    She was sexually exploited by someone with power over her livelihood. Your take is honestly trash.

    And you know this how? Nothing in the OP said this.

    The nature of their employment relationship makes it so. The implication of sex with subordinates is that you can't end it, there's a massive power imbalance. Doesn't matter if "she likes it" or not.

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    “Grooming” at 25 years old lmao okay

    Definitely different power dynamics. I think she’s reaping the consequences of her actions. I’m 29, and I’m definitely not young enough to claim I didn’t know any better. Not for 10 years at least 

    LOL these words are losing meaning so quickly, idk why people can't just understand that adult personal responsibility exists

  • Why does she think this would make the news?? Was she a minor when they first started hooking up or something?? I’m very confused as to why this would make the local news.. 🤨🤨

    In small towns a businessman being found to be having a long term affair and knocking up employees would absolutely make the front page of the local paper.

    Even in a big city. The mayor of my city was having an affair with a staff member. He decided to step down because of it and it made the news. Though no one really cared or even made a big deal about it here.

    The mayor is a politician/public figure though, newspapers won't give a fuck about the manager of some random business

    And even then no one really cared even though he was a public figure! 😂

    Plus I think it depends on the size of the business and how well it’s known.

    Ahhh, a fellow Torontonian! 

    Ahh that makes sense actually I didn’t even think of that!

    America is like its own world

    I’m from the UK. This happens here.

    To me this post reads like a badly edited Ai

    Edit to add:Also this account was created today so I'm sure it's just ai slop

    eh, most confession accounts are made specially for the confession too. Few people do that on their main

    Agreed, it's like people forget throwaway accounts have been used for years before AI was around

    Maybe she worked for Michigan University? 🤷🏾

    (for context Head coach got fired for affair with staff member and had Plan B delivered to the office)

    Edit: OP clarified it's Europe. Cancel code blue

    whoa when did the detail about the Plan B come out ?

    If you work in a small town then everyone will know what you did. Your only solution then is to move

    It makes me wonder if maybe OP isn't from the US. Maybe, for example, something like this happening in a small town in SE Asia or South America might make the news, but even that seems like a stretch.

    But even in a small US town this still wouldn't make the news. Small town papers are terrified of being sued for libel/slander because one lawsuit could just end them. Regardless of what the local gossip is, they can't technically prove it's true anyways, it's not like the paper would go get a DNA test or something that would hold up in court during a libel/slander case.

    And if the small town news is owned by a larger conglomerate, like Sinclair, then they don't give a fuck about dumb little small-town gossip. Narcissistic managers taking advantage of their subordinates isn't exactly some novel idea.

    Nah I’ve lived in towns in the US where something like this would absolutely wreck someone’s livelihood to the point where the only solution is to move. The media is just one part of it

  • You didn’t do wrong. Your daughter is a grown woman who’s beyond old enough to know that sleeping with a married man is wrong, this is on her.

  • But we get along well and talk about everything

    You might talk to her about everything, it’s pretty clear she hasn’t talked to you about everything. She very well might have a long dating history but just never disclosed that to you.

    I also hate to break it to you, but your daughter isn’t innocent in this. She chose to start a relationship with a married man. I’m not sure why you’re blaming yourself for your adult daughter’s bad decisions.

  • Unfortunately, there is nothing you can do except be there to support her through this. Fortunately you did nothing wrong. Your daughter is a grown woman who made her own decisions. If moving is an option for you two- maybe put that on the table.

  • You did everything possible for your daughter but she is an adult and your responsibilities ended long ago, the question is is she crying etc because she has been caught, she went into the relationship 5 year ago probably knowing he was married an he is a shit for cheating long term on his wife and kids. As others have said u can only be there for her an help her pick up the pieces!

    Five years into an affair and OP's daughter had many, many opportunities to end that relationship. But she chose not to and now she's deeply concerned that the whole company knows the dirt and she's worried her mother might see some ugly texts that SHE sent.  OP should brace herself to learn the truth about who her daughter REALLY is... and it isn't pretty.

  • Doubt something like this would make the news unless manager is a major public figure. Be there for her but understand she made the choice to be involved with this person

    Local news includes the newspaper.

  • Your daughter is a grown woman. Time to reap what she sow.

  • Parents always have a biased opinion that their child is a gift from God.

    She did the deed for 5 years and now that she's gonna be outed, she wants to give up the charade? She made her own bed and now has to deal with it. Hope they are happy together.

  • Its horrible truly but your grown adult daughter made an incredibly stupid adult decision now she deserves to live with the consequences.

  • Of course your heart hurts for your daughter. She made terrible choices and is now suffering the consequences, but she's still your daughter.

    It may be a good idea for her to come stay with you for a while to be supported while she figures out what needs to happen next.

  • She deserves the yelling at the very least. Start mentally preparing for what your gonna say when she asks to move in because the guy isn't leaving his wife, and completely drops your daughter and their baby. then you'll be supporting 2 big Ole babies.

  • Smart people make superbly stooopid decisions like the rest of us.

  • She is your child and all people make bad choices sometimes. All you can do is support what she chooses. I would make that super clear though because in this situation she could feel very alone. Something like this could have an effect on her job. Talking to.a lawyer for advice on going forward is a good idea. My kids have made bad choices and survived and even thrived. Hopefully life is long and things do change and get better. This doesn't have to end her prospects or future career. Hugs to you mom. I ve been there!

  • One, remember, this isn’t about you. Clearly she didn’t feel comfortable telling you for the past five years, so now that she confided in you, please don’t make it about you. If you care about your daughter support her and be there for her and help her if she decides to raise the baby. She needs a support group to escape the man/situation.

  • Sorry but I really don't have much sympathy. Unless your daughter had an intellectual impairment which affected her development, by 25 you know right from wrong. I also didn't have my first relationship until I was 24 with a rough childhood and knew very well that ever enabling cheating would be disgusting.

    She knew he was married the whole time and seems like she got off on knowing she was making a mockery of the wife, all until she got caught and then cried about it. It's not like she felt bad for the wife or ashamed of her actions and just didn't know how to escape the situation, it was funny to disrespect the wife until she got caught.

    People need to be accountable for their actions. She made her choice and now she can live with it. She just doesn't want people to know the kind of person she really is but she will never learn or make changes to improve herself without reaching this bottom level. Maybe it will shake her up enough to change her ways.

    It's not your fault, she didn't tell you so you couldn't help her and it's a reflection on her, not you.

  • I’m really sorry you’re both going through this. Your concern and care for her come through clearly, and right now that support matters more than having all the answers.

  • You didn’t do anything wrong. She was 25 when she started the affair not 18, although the power dynamic with the job is bad, she still knew it was wrong.

  • I’m sorry for this unfortunate situation.

    But also what kind of town do you live in where an office affair between two non-celebs makes the news?

    If she chooses to keep this child she should consider very carefully if she wants to be attached to this man for the rest of her life.

  • apparently, your 30 year old daughter did date, you were just unaware of it.

  • Play dumb games, win stupid prizes. 🤷🏼‍♀️

  • She's 30, not 16. Got to let her get on with it. Sounds like you are going to be a grandma to a much loved baby. All the shitty stuff will blow over, just as it did for you x

  • She’s an adult. Why’re you blaming yourself?

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    She was taken advantage of by a person with control over her job. That man is responsible for starting and carrying on with this relationship with a subordinate employee. Be there for her, she needs you.

    She was a grown woman and she admitted that she liked the validation from him. As a mother I feel for OP. We love our children, mistakes and all. You can be disappointed at her actions, but still love her OP.

  • You raised her the best way you knew how and you can be proud of that. Her own moral compass is crap and now the consequences of her actions are coming back full swing. She'll be lucky if she keeps her job if this is going to make the news. Her poor choices at 30 years old are not a reflection of you.

  • You did nothing wrong.

    Everyone will tell you to be there for your daughter, and you likely will be.

    But man I would be so disgusted and disappointed with my kid. Ugh. Will she keep the man’s affair baby?

  • I’m sorry, this is so messy, but why would it be on the news

  • Be there for her. Good luck

  • Maybe ask her to come stay with you for a few days so you can keep an eye on her and she doesn't have to worry about anyone showing up to her place? Then you can get more information about what happened and what she plans to do with the pregnancy x

  • Why would an affair make the news?

  • Nothing disgusting me more than a Women who sleep with married men who have kids. this is worse than being a prostitute. Im sorry but she knew better & this is the consequence.

  • AI?

    Yeah, that's what it reads like.

  • Can she terminate the pregnancy?

    You need a lawyer for the rest.

  • damn is it too late to have an abortion

  • Did she know he was married or did he keep it a secret? That plays a big part of if she’s responsible for being the homewrecker or he is. Crazy enough, actions have consequences, and she did the deed and now here come the consequences. It’s not your fault

    The daughter KNEW the guy was married. She even sent an ugly text (as noted in the original post) that she would hide underneath the desk while the manager was on the phone with his wife. That's just gross. 

    What do you mean who is responsible? The married man is a homewrecker no matter what. Her knowing or not knowing doesn't change that.

    She didn't wreck his home. He's also an adult who is responsible for his own decisions, did she participate in the affair, yes, she's guilty of that. But he is clearly the man that wrecked his own home.

  • 10 years from now all of this won’t matter - be there for her … mistake or no mistake… the focus is that she is HEALTHY AND SAFE nothing else matters .. people will say she is a grown woman which is true but she is still your kid no matter how old they are … don’t judge but also don’t enable

  • Your adult daughter knowingly slept with her married boss. Sucks to suck.

  • Momma raised a HO!

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    I would want to believe that, too. I didn't read the part of the post where she told you that's what happened, though.

  • Is she considering abortion?

  • Look, your daughter deserves every bit of backlash from the guy's wife tbh. She was mid 20s when the whole thing started. Is not like she was a kid. And she was fully aware of his marital status.

    (That said, if she suffered some sort of coercion or harassment due to the power imbalance that changes the narrative)

    As a mother, I understand and can empathize. But Her decisions are not on you. And unfortunately actions have consequences. The only thing you can do is be there for her, let her know you are her mom and obviously will support her, whether or not you approve of her actions

  • The only thing we can do for our children during those times is be the loving parent they need. That means supporting them in facing the consequences and finding a way to get their lives back on track.

    We can’t stop them making a mess, but we can teach them how to clean it up and maybe how to not do it again,

  • I've read this before

  • Damn I feel bad for your daughter. Is there anyway she can get a job somewhere else? And change her phone number?

  • People make bad decisions and mistakes all the time.. regardless of upbringing...

    She's made her bed and now she must lie in it.

  • They are in an inappropriate relationship if it is a company of any size, he gets fired and she could get paid. at best it is fraternization.

  • Don’t clean up her mess - she made these decisions and was well into adulthood when it started. You did nothing wrong - her guilt is her own.

  • Is your daughter y/n by any chance?

    What is y/n??

    ‘your name’ it’s basically a fanfiction thing

    This isn't the time for a niche joke. Like as a fanfic writer and reader this isn't the time or place lol

    —they say on a Reddit post 😅

  • Children have to make their own mistakes and she just made a huge one. Hopefully she learned something from this because some don’t

    She needs to find another job and file for child support as soon as it’s possible

  • Well your daughter might lose everything: her reputation, her job (especially if there’s a fraternity clause at her company) and she might end up being a single mom if she keeps the child ☝🏻. Have you talked about her pregnancy and what she’s going to do with it?!

  • You didn't do anything wrong, and it sounds like she got stuck in a relationship with a dreadful, toxic power imbalance, her being taken advantage of. Don't go at her with accusations, she has enough of that. He wrecked his own home by stepping out knowing full well he is a married father. Maybe she made a bad decision in the beginning, but the dynamic of a 30-year-old employee who has never dated before vs. a 46-year-old controlling narcissist is a lot more dark and complicated than it being mostly on her. It isn't. Blame the man who absolutely did know better and had more life and relationship experience, and used that to his advantage in his professional and romantic life. He very easily and very well may have manipulated her into sticking in an affair relationship with no possible positive payoff for her.

  • She started an affair 5 years ago at 25 - a few years out of college. That's a really young impressionable age for a female raised without a father. While I do not condone her behavior, I can understand her. I see men with power and older men can prey on younger women and subordinates. Please tell her she can get through this with peace, it will be hard at first.

  • She should probably sue her manager.

  • Just support her and leave judgment out until or unless she needs it right now. She is pregnant, and clearly has limited social/dating skills.

  • This is not your fault. Our children even when grown adults make mistakes and often they have to learn the hard way. Sounds like this may be a big or popular company if she is worried about it making the local news. For now all you can do is make sure that your daughter is protected as much as possible and get prenatal care. We don’t have to condemn our children just because we don’t condone their behavior. Sometimes we just have to wait until they are ready to let us help. Yes, sleeping with a married man is wrong but she doesn’t have to tolerate the wife’s harassment either. My ex husband cheated and the only person that owed me an explanation was him. True story: he ended up later marrying her and cheating on her too! They have since divorced. Anyway,wishing you and your daughter the best.

  • I’m so sorry for your daughter. I’m sorry for your frustration and pain. The manager will get what is coming to him.

    Karma comes to everyone involved.

  • I mean, if you wanna help, maybe help her to move to a different town or something.

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    although we are very open with each other.

    Doesn't seem like yall are open with each other if you were blindsided by the 5 year affair and the fact she is pregnant.

  • You did nothing wrong. Your adult daughter knowingly had an affair with

    aa married man who

    is a manager at her company

    If you don't want to read the texts, please send them to me and I'll evaluate their severity objectively, using and for science.

  • Sounds like she is in an abusive relationship. She needs to quit that job and you two need to move far away if you can. And she has choices about the child