Seems to me like he could just cut the wheel the other way, back up a foot or two, cut wheel back and drive forward? No? It also kind of looks like he could just continue forward and through a bit of the show bank. Most I've ever driven is my pickup with my 16ft work trailer lol so excuse my ignorance
He could just be straight stuck on ice. If he doesnāt have full lockers and itās an uphill and heās fully loaded heās not going anywhere. Does seem like he could back up tho. Could be broken down too or burnt a clutch out of it. All sorts of things couldāve gone wrong tbh
My guess is the ice. It looks like his ass end might be in a snowbank on the one side, his front end is in the other side just a bit, him being on ice and it being uphill is preventing him from backing up, and he either doesnt have full lockers or they dont work.
What do you mean by full lockers?
Locking differentials. Standard differentials send power to the wheel with the least amount of resistance. Locking differentials force both wheels to turn.
What the other guy said. But to really drive it home and also if I don't it'll feel like an inturupted sneeze. Locking the differential makes the wheels on the same axle spin at the same speed, secondly a power divider will make both the front and rear axle spin at the same speed. So in short, if you have your power divider on, differentials locked, the wheels on both sides of both rear axles are all spinning at the same speed. To answer your question, by full lockers I mean locking differentials and power divider.
Full lockers on a slope like that would actually be worse unless you can just loc up one axle. We have trucks with full lockers and if you are on a slope they immediately go sideways because you donāt have any wheels to keep it tracking straight. The ones with an inter axle lock and then switches for both axles individually work best.
If you're on full ice, yeah id agree. The way im picturing it, drivers side wheels are mostly on the area people have been driving on and have mediocre traction, the passengers side is full on ice and have no traction.
Yes. If one drive wheel has grip they work well. We have places we back uphill in mud sometimes and it doesnāt work at all.
Now when you say youre backing up in mud and it doesnt work, what tires are you running, what psi are you running them in, how deep is the mud, and what's the load?
That one is old enough to have all three but we have went out to winch fleet trucks that only had lockers on the front power axle and no power divider... With an automatic transmission to boot.
This has saved my ass many times.
Differential lock on each drive axle to lock the left and right wheels together, and then a power divider between the axles to lock the front and rear axles together.
I think youāre right. Driver side front looks wedged into the snow and possibly the passenger side drives too
Ahh ok, makes sense
āāāWOO - what an idea š” chain all drives like we do in Rickey mountains & one chain on right rear of trailerāāāš
I might be misunderstanding the word jackknife but that is just stuck not jackknifed ??
That is what I was wondering as well, the way I understand the word he is not jackknifed lol. Seems like 60Ā° away from a jackknife
Iām sure what ever reporter or person that made the post likely just sees a truck not in a straight line with its trailer that is blocking two lanes and kind of overstated the jack knifed part. Not really a bad thing though, the statement that itās jackknifed isnāt inaccurate enough to matter and it gets the point across to the average driver better than just saying thereās a stuck truck
Yeah but stuck truck rolls right off the tongue š¤£
I donāt disagree but it also leaves more room for misreading the situation and people thinking they can get around or that itās something that will be resolved sooner.
Donāt guess it matters much either way, just pointing out if this was posted by a news agency or something Iād rather them over estimate the severity of a situation than underestimate it.
Yeah definitely
I think it's neat that reporters across the continent will say a truck has spun out and it means it's stopped facing uphill and probably isn't blocking more then it's lane while a car spun out means it flipped and did 360s
He might have hit the bridge and damaged a wheel or something. Or he could be just scared shitless at this point.
He could have tried moving but the trailer was pushing him more sideways when he did, my guess. Especially at that angle.
Had this happen at my driveway at work. Ever so slight bank angle on the turn out. Try to hit the throttle, drives slide sideways and make more of an angle on the trailer. Thankfully I was 100ā from a pallet of salt bags to dump at my convenience but I can definitely see how this could play out
No traction to backup going uphill. And hes stuck in snow driver steer tire.Ā
Crocodile Dundee would say: Thatās not a jackknife, this is a jackknife
How many of us just said that in Croc's voice? Yeah, I did too.
The position looks ok to just straightenit out, but he could have torn off his 5th, ripped out his air lines, his engine could be lying 3 miles back.
Lmao alright fair enough
There is zero jack knifing going on here.
Seems as though he lost his trailer off the 5th wheel due to improper jaw locks or the 5th wheel completely broke off.
Youāre right. Leads me to believe that there is not a lot of truckers in this subreddit
I don't know shit about trucking But now that you mention it the trailer does look rather far away and also dropped lower on the front end then it should be if it's connected
I wouldn't get too hung up on this.
This was a quick blurb on a TV station's website written by a "digital producer," which is one step above an intern and probably pays minimum wage, from a text she received from NY Alert. The mistaken use of "jackknifed" came from someone at NY Alert who was similarly uninformed. This is throwaway news content that isn't really monitored for accuracy, nor would they bother going back to correct it if they realized it was wrong.
A couple of days earlier NY Alert sent out a notification about an actual jackknife incident on I-81 15 miles south of there. I'm speculating, but my guess is that the report came in as just the ramp being closed for a disabled truck, and someone at NY Alert just assumed it was another jackknife incident so fresh off the other one.
Where is this? Syracuse by any chance?
The jackknife was caused from the trailer pushing the truck. He tried to slow down, and the weight of the trailer pushed his Drive tires out from under them, causing the truck to go like that. If he tries to move, his tires will Spin and it will just push him further out of position. A lot of people, including the engineers that put traction control in these newer trucks, forget that we have around 53,000 pounds of weight that we pull, but it also pushes us when we slow down. Given that he's going down a grade, the weight of that trailer is always pushing him forward.
That's not jackknifed, but also the trailer looks at an odd angle so I'm not totally sure it's still attached, and if it isn't that plus the ice could've made this a tricky fix.
Prolly has a Paccar under the hood that could be the problem
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Itās hard to tell for sure but it looks like heās possibly uncoupled from the trailer.
Either that or he just canāt get traction because of the snow/ice
Looks like the trailer is damaged and disconnected.
Depends on the reason it ājack knifedā.
If he could, he would in my opinion
Very true. We got to assume they at least tried
That's not jacknifed
lol lord yes drove them many years ago he got scared
Get it rolling forward ice or not, it's not jack knifed enough to say that drive it on
Maybe he slid, popped a air line and thatās how he ends up at the end? Idk
Definitely not a jackknifed in that photo.
I'm no trucker but I'm pretty sure that doesn't count as jack knifed.
The geometry of the tires on the drive can cause total loss of power even with deferential lock especially on ice. Dumping the bags on the drive axles could even out the wait distribution for them to gain power but hard to say.
How about we put the clutch in put it in 3rd or fourth and drive it out. Full lockers thatās funny.š. Dif lock maybe. If itās an auto I have no idea what to do. Those of us that have winter 6-8 months out of the year donāt have those. Thatās about as worthless as DEF.
Trailer breaks are my friend in downhill winter or rainy conditions. Trailers are almost always heavier than the tractor so they can just start pushing your truck off course. Also if in flat ground you can power out, when in doubt power out. #1 rule in ice rain/slow down to the point where you think itās easy enough to stop in case of emergency, which it looks like this driver was doing, at least he kept it upright and off the walls from what I can see
If you look closely heās wedged into the snow bank on his left making him unable to move forward and probably canāt back because of ice and it being a down slope
Is that Syracuse NY?
Yes
Some of yall should play geoguessr
I had to ask too,I was certain as soon as I saw this tho.
Carry a shovel and a bag of rock salt to put under your drives and behind them for 10 ft. I would also throw some in your desired path of travel once backed up. Now if there is something mechanical wrong like froze his brakes up then he stuck.
Did he drop the trailer? No traction?
If he's on ice, could just be spinning 'em
Torn airlines or icy AF = stuck
Do drivers not carry salt anymore? I remember use to see bags of salt strapped on catwalk on tractor.
Iād say more donāt than do. I work for a major LTL company. I had to buy my own bucket for salt. Finally this year they provided us drivers salt.
Imagine being one of the people right behind this truck. Like damn, how bad is that person's luck?
What does a driver do in this situation?
Fireball and goooo!
Thatās how it came to a stop. What happened beforehand may have played a role in whether or not it can proceed under its own power.
Looks like fluid leaking under the front. Truck might be dead dead
That looks like the triple crossing in Richmond VA.
Tell me you've never gotten stuck on ice without telling me you've never gotten stuck on ice.
Maybe I'm wrong but that trailer looks disconnected. And hanging on by a thread.. but hard to tell
Fake Aussie accent
'At's not a jackknife...
Now 'at's a jackknife!