trying to talk to young women about this is like traveling from the future to talk to the past self of every girl youve ever loved and just looking like some crazy lady yelling at them
Packaging ain't shit when the substance is the same either way. Good is good no matter the trappings, just like bad is bad, gold colored does not equal 100% pure 24karat gold.
That's not helpful, and it's not even a direct analogy to the packaging making it clear what you're getting (whether or not it's a nice version of the same thing). I'm afraid it only makes sense if you read it as 'even the best man is still a man', and a call for misandrist separatism - which is also unhelpful, albeit coherent
Who said it's a "direct analogy"? It's a metaphor. People who confuse metaphors with analogies and think that they should be a 1:1 match are sorely mistaken about the point of a metaphor.
If you want to make it into something it's not, that's on you. If you personally don't find it helpful, that's simply your opinion. Move on.
What do you find helpful about the suggestion that you'll never know whether someone's actually a good partner because they'll pretend to be one either way? And how is it analogous to getting a particular brand of (I assume) fast food, knowing that is what you're getting?
Why are you still asking me how it's analogous when it's metaphorical? I'm not going to continue talking with you in your wilful lack of understanding.
What do you find helpfulĀ
It's a warning to go into situations with open eyes instead of assuming the best. If you don't want to do that, then, again, move on.
If you think there's an analogous way to phrase my question using 'metaphorical', feel free to substitute the word if you can't process the question otherwise. I assumed you'd understand metaphors require analogies between their literal and metaphorical meanings to function as metaphors, but I have far less interest than you in splitting hairs about the distinction.
Your answer to the other question is so wildly tangential to the post I'm not holding my breath, though. 'Sometimes people aren't what they seem' is just not at all illustrated by this weird fast-food metaphor
š¤¦ Why are you still here? This is a coherent metaphor, and most readers can and did grasp it. The metaphor works; you just reject what it implies, and reframe that rejection as a technical flaw.
I figured it meant a man can be wealthy and still be a shitty person. Like how a fast food restaurant can look really āniceā and ābougieā but still serve the same food as the more ordinary or run down looking versions.Ā
I was extra confused by all the people talking about food and restaurants in the comments because I thought OOP was 100% talking about those old toys that pop out of a box
OP is saying men are never worth it because at the end of the day even the nicest, kindest, most lovely man on earth is still a man, and he's no different inside to all the shitty awful men you rightfully turn down because they're shitty and awful men.
I thought this was about dating people who seem good on the surface, meet checkboxes that you or society say your partner should have, but underneath all that treat you poorly, donāt try to understand or respect you, or donāt like you very much.
My dudette, please, chillaxxxx... YMMV has been in the internet lexicon since at least the mid 1990s, if not longer. Please be a little less cranky, its not like copy and search is that hard in this era. Have a peaceful and enjoyable day out there!
I think you telling me to chillax over playful hyperbolic annoyance is infact a reflection of you taking the internet too seriously and needing to chillaxĀ
Someone else called me annoying trash for this. You guys are jokes.Ā
Thank you! I somewhat get the point of the post. It'd be good if we could have the ghosts of our future come back to us in times of need when we need warning about our choices (in a Christmas Carol kind of way). 35 just isn't old though!
I've been out of online dating for a long time now, but the age brackets did make a noticeable difference when I passed 35. That's probably even more normalised now, so it's not old, but the perception of it is warped.
The fanciest Mc Donalds still sells the same old overpriced Cheeseburgers
How did we reach the point of McDonalds being considered overpriced š
By buying better fast food for less money at kind of all places
I have no idea what this means.
Packaging ain't shit when the substance is the same either way. Good is good no matter the trappings, just like bad is bad, gold colored does not equal 100% pure 24karat gold.
I gotta be honest I still don't understand what this means in terms of people.
It means men who are bad people are still bad people even if they pretend to be nice and polite.
That's not helpful, and it's not even a direct analogy to the packaging making it clear what you're getting (whether or not it's a nice version of the same thing). I'm afraid it only makes sense if you read it as 'even the best man is still a man', and a call for misandrist separatism - which is also unhelpful, albeit coherent
lmao "misandrist separatism"
As if it's not misogyny separating people.
Who said it's a "direct analogy"? It's a metaphor. People who confuse metaphors with analogies and think that they should be a 1:1 match are sorely mistaken about the point of a metaphor.
If you want to make it into something it's not, that's on you. If you personally don't find it helpful, that's simply your opinion. Move on.
What do you find helpful about the suggestion that you'll never know whether someone's actually a good partner because they'll pretend to be one either way? And how is it analogous to getting a particular brand of (I assume) fast food, knowing that is what you're getting?
Why are you still asking me how it's analogous when it's metaphorical? I'm not going to continue talking with you in your wilful lack of understanding.
It's a warning to go into situations with open eyes instead of assuming the best. If you don't want to do that, then, again, move on.
If you think there's an analogous way to phrase my question using 'metaphorical', feel free to substitute the word if you can't process the question otherwise. I assumed you'd understand metaphors require analogies between their literal and metaphorical meanings to function as metaphors, but I have far less interest than you in splitting hairs about the distinction.
Your answer to the other question is so wildly tangential to the post I'm not holding my breath, though. 'Sometimes people aren't what they seem' is just not at all illustrated by this weird fast-food metaphor
š¤¦ Why are you still here? This is a coherent metaphor, and most readers can and did grasp it. The metaphor works; you just reject what it implies, and reframe that rejection as a technical flaw.
I figured it meant a man can be wealthy and still be a shitty person. Like how a fast food restaurant can look really āniceā and ābougieā but still serve the same food as the more ordinary or run down looking versions.Ā
Glad Iām not the only one who had no idea what they were saying
I was extra confused by all the people talking about food and restaurants in the comments because I thought OOP was 100% talking about those old toys that pop out of a box
OP is saying men are never worth it because at the end of the day even the nicest, kindest, most lovely man on earth is still a man, and he's no different inside to all the shitty awful men you rightfully turn down because they're shitty and awful men.
This is such a bleak way to look at the world.
So is the idea that misogyny effects everything. But thinking otherwise doesn't actually make the world any better.
Thinking every single man on the planet is a misogynist is a mental health issue
Maybe it's just disappointment.
That's not how culture works, hun.
I disagree, babe
Which is 100% true.
I thought this was about dating people who seem good on the surface, meet checkboxes that you or society say your partner should have, but underneath all that treat you poorly, donāt try to understand or respect you, or donāt like you very much.
But based on this thread, seems like YMMV.
I'm not googling what that abbreviation means
I googled it and am so annoyed you thought and onlooker would figure that without googling it
Lol, my bad. I thought it was more common knowledge than it came across.
lol we can see the milage varied on this one
Lol
My dudette, please, chillaxxxx... YMMV has been in the internet lexicon since at least the mid 1990s, if not longer. Please be a little less cranky, its not like copy and search is that hard in this era. Have a peaceful and enjoyable day out there!
I think you telling me to chillax over playful hyperbolic annoyance is infact a reflection of you taking the internet too seriously and needing to chillaxĀ
Someone else called me annoying trash for this. You guys are jokes.Ā
It's really common on TVTropes which isn't to say that you should have known it but it's not really an obscure one, either.Ā
TVTropes
quit it I'm not doing this again
You don't have to know exactly what tvtropes is to understand it's a place online where that acronym is common stop being a bratĀ
it's a website not an acronym. perfect troll no notes
I think you're the troll here lmaoĀ
yes I'm teasin be ffuuunnnnn
You're not being fun, you're just being annoying. I liked your original post but your comments are trash, dude.
did that feel good to say
what is wrong with you, dude?
35 is old?
That got me too, lol. Feeling old at 35 when you still have most of your life ahead of you (if you're lucky!) is wild, lol.
Thank you! I somewhat get the point of the post. It'd be good if we could have the ghosts of our future come back to us in times of need when we need warning about our choices (in a Christmas Carol kind of way). 35 just isn't old though!
No one called it old. being twice the age of girls getting their first boyfriend is infact worthy of note when giving relationship advice.Ā
I've been out of online dating for a long time now, but the age brackets did make a noticeable difference when I passed 35. That's probably even more normalised now, so it's not old, but the perception of it is warped.
Some people LOVE leaning into the whole "I'm old, my knees hurt lol" thing the second they turn 30 - some even earlier than that.
I'll never understand it. It's just sad and self limiting.
I did not even kind of imply it was old.Ā
Okay but have we considered that JBX is the best fast food?
lollll
Anyone with a single progressive bone in their body: āitās wrong to compare groups of humans to objects or animals or productsā
Pseudofeminists: āpeople with Y-chromosomes are like shitty fast foodā