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Conservatives never fail to briefly stun me with how thoughtlessly they'll throw out or accept arguments that don't hold up to the slightest bit of exploration.
It's impressive how a lack of empathy runs through every aspect of their behavior. They can't argue convincingly because they don't understand how their opponents' minds work.
While this is a fun little waterfall, the truth is that they hate her because they perceive her as being vulnerable, and because they've been given permission by their fascist leaders to direct violence at this particular group of people. It is calculated, it is coordinated, and it is targeted.
The primary source of fascist power is gathering people into groups to enact violence against the targets of their hatred. Once the group is formed, that violence can then be turned on any other vulnerable target the group's leaders desire, and eventually the threat of that violence can be directed even at people who aren't initially perceived to be vulnerable in the same way once the violent group becomes large enough.
I cut it off at “they hate” to make it a more general statement about their politics. You’re right of course! “They hate her” would have worked as well.
Their war on women is blatant and horrifying. Their war on everyone worked for me.
As a cis man this makes me sad as well. I had to cut off my mom's side for this exact same reason. Just know that you are loved because you are being who you are meant to be. The people in that post are a very small vocal minority who are scared of what they cannot understand.
So staying away from people who are problematic to you is doomering to them? Figures.
"I believe in exaggerated political hyperbole" - yeah, dude they passed laws. Hell they passed new ones just this week. Calling it doomering doesn't make it so.
To display themselves as a wounded rabbit, incapable of fighting back. Right up to the point they gain any iota of power, and then they'll strike at you; dehumanize and demonize you and make the gap
between two sides even wider than the one they've already created.
Don't quote Umberto Eco, DCJ seems to have a hate on for figures that called out right-wing nujobbery, even though in theory they aren't a right-wing sub and shouldn't have a problem with him...
It's wrong-on-purpose projection, performed deliberately and with the intent to gaslight. They do this specifically in groups to demonstrate that they are not only not beholden to truth, but that they can be entirely 180° out of phase with it and suffer no consequences for many of the people around them.
It really is important to have a bare minimum standard for what constitutes an acceptable level of non-wilfull ignorance.
Shit. I misread it. Thought it was one of thise "The GOP isn't racist" followed by "Fucking [minority group] are stealing our jobs and women" posts. Well, the egg's on my face.
They'd frame it as her being insufferable with her cult-like progressive views rather than transphobia, some of the comments hint or imply she sucks for that reason.
some people seem to have this weird idea that blood is infallible and thicker than anything, that you should always love your family or be by them, when the truth is you don't owe them shit
it's taken me over two decades of life to learn this and even as i get ready to move out and transition, i still have a hard time getting over the idea that i might have to cut off my mom when the time comes, because as much as i love her and know she loves me, it's impossible to know if she'll feel the same after i come out to her, because i know she already has a strong bias against people like me
As with most American right-wing subs the majority of users have likely been estranged by at least a few family members, refuse to understand why, and so continue to get irrationally angry whenever the subject comes up. They've got to protect themselves from examining their own life and why their own estranged loved one is likely right about them.
One of my favorite fun facts! "Blood is thicker than water" is actually paraphrasing the saying "The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb."
It completely reverses the meaning. Originally it meant that the people you choose to be in your life mean more than those you were put with due to the consequences of your birth.
Me and my brothers were fucking molested by my uncle. I was repeatedly choked My dad wouldn’t do jack shit despite him being 50 years old but pretending like he’s a fucking child.
The Trump administration literally legally detransitioned millions of people. I know a trans person who can't get a passport and leave the country because his name and gender don't match what the administration decided he is. How is that not wanting trans people not to exist?
“I do wanna mention that the right does this too. It just isn’t as noticeable.” (in reference to the style of art)
uh huh. I must have dreamt up all those right-wing political comics where everything is labeled in case their audience is too Fox-brained to parse metaphors. Which, I mean, hey…
If it were a Benny G comic, it’d say, “TRANS WOMAN,” over her and, “FAMILY THAT DOESN’T UNDERSTAND HER,” over the family. There’d also be a donkey holding a cartoon money bag in the top of the image and it’d say, “DEMOCRATS,” and, “NATIONAL DEBT.”
“Why would someone not want to spend time with people who treat them like rancid garbage? It’s probably some kind of cult or something, that’s the only thing that could possibly explain such weird behavior.”
Im not longer talking to either of my parents. Both are conservative MAGA lovers who hate minorities and gays. I didn’t cut them out of my life. They cut me out of their lives because they couldn't handle me poi ting out how stupid they were. Not jsut about politics but literally everything. They were both in insane dept and kept cheating on their partners (they were both several times divorced but often talked about the sanity of marriage). I was too much of a negative in fleece in their lives with my stable job amd long term girlfriend.
What remarkable spelling and grammar you have. I'd almost want to attribute awkward turns of phrase like "a negative in fleece" to autocorrect, but that wouldn't explain how autocorrect missed all the misspelled non-words.
Blue dot in red state here. These are the kinds of people that you cannot trust will not murder your queer friends. It's psychotic. The state government as a whole is trying to destroy the economic engine that keeps the whole place running specifically because we don't want to drive trans people to suicide.
Just because I reread it today, I want to drop a recommend for April Daniels's Dreadnought series. It is quite possibly one of the best Superhero stories I've ever read.
Im surrounded by trump supporters, if i left them alone i would have no family. That being said i have lost a lot of respect for them, my uncle is a great man and strong christian believer and ill never ask him who he supports because of this lol. Everyone in church thinks trump is a real christian and it only reveals their stupidity, when anyone talks about trump as if he everything he says is true it’s an instant tell that they are actually too stupid to know better. It honestly affects my faith in god, why would he let his people with the most faith be fooled so easily? He’s the exact definition of wolf in sheep clothing, if you can’t see that why would i believe anything you say?
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Conservatives never fail to briefly stun me with how thoughtlessly they'll throw out or accept arguments that don't hold up to the slightest bit of exploration.
It's impressive how a lack of empathy runs through every aspect of their behavior. They can't argue convincingly because they don't understand how their opponents' minds work.
But this isn't a right-wing sub, duh /s.
Every single time you are surprised by how awful a fascist is, it's because you weren't properly thinking of them as a fascist in the first place.
Please remember that allowing yourself to be surprised by how awful the fascists are is historically a fatal mistake.
"Family should be to a biblical standard, and also trans poeple are a cult to destroy modern family!!@!"
Still totes a neutral sub where they just chill and totally don't give a shit or doom.
Yep, they were dooming over Charlie Kirk’s death, Mamdani being elected, and King Charles’ speech about Muslims
Pretty much a right wing hellscape
No but see, it's not dooming when it's from the right. Simple as.
You got it wrong, the line is, "It isn't dooming if it is actually happening".
But as you can see, the reply is, "It's not dooming if it is actually happening."
Ah, wait, child brides. That explains why they support pedophilia, it's biblical traditional marriage! /sish
This is the particular comic they are referring to.
They hate her because she speaks the truth.
They hate her because she speaks.
They hate her because.
They hate.
While this is a fun little waterfall, the truth is that they hate her because they perceive her as being vulnerable, and because they've been given permission by their fascist leaders to direct violence at this particular group of people. It is calculated, it is coordinated, and it is targeted.
The primary source of fascist power is gathering people into groups to enact violence against the targets of their hatred. Once the group is formed, that violence can then be turned on any other vulnerable target the group's leaders desire, and eventually the threat of that violence can be directed even at people who aren't initially perceived to be vulnerable in the same way once the violent group becomes large enough.
I cut it off at “they hate” to make it a more general statement about their politics. You’re right of course! “They hate her” would have worked as well.
Their war on women is blatant and horrifying. Their war on everyone worked for me.
A few cheeky DCJ members called her "him".
The comments prove the need for the words, don't they?
The correct word for those who associate with or make excuses for fascists is fascist.
as a trans girl this just makes me sad.
As a cis man this makes me sad as well. I had to cut off my mom's side for this exact same reason. Just know that you are loved because you are being who you are meant to be. The people in that post are a very small vocal minority who are scared of what they cannot understand.
Did you read the comic? You should. Yes, it is sad, but it ends with support.
no I mean how wretched the DCJ lot were to her
Ah, understandable. But as I said, there is some compassion in there, even if there's also asshattery.
Aka The people who got downvoted for calling out DCJ for their Shenanigans.
So staying away from people who are problematic to you is doomering to them? Figures.
"I believe in exaggerated political hyperbole" - yeah, dude they passed laws. Hell they passed new ones just this week. Calling it doomering doesn't make it so.
Howling at the moon.
What gave it away.
"The enemy is both weak and strong."
They're fascists.
Don't quote Umberto Eco, DCJ seems to have a hate on for figures that called out right-wing nujobbery, even though in theory they aren't a right-wing sub and shouldn't have a problem with him...
Calling someone narcissistic, histrionic, and manipulative just because they're trans is a hell of a take
But it's not because she's trans, according to them.
It's wrong-on-purpose projection, performed deliberately and with the intent to gaslight. They do this specifically in groups to demonstrate that they are not only not beholden to truth, but that they can be entirely 180° out of phase with it and suffer no consequences for many of the people around them.
It really is important to have a bare minimum standard for what constitutes an acceptable level of non-wilfull ignorance.
"MAGA isn't anti-gay. I'm gay married to one" is immediately met replied with by "Your husband is a pedo."
They literally can't help themselves.
No they said they voted for a guy who fucked kids (i.e. Trump)
Yeah, in a fairness, that is indeed what the reply said.
Shit. I misread it. Thought it was one of thise "The GOP isn't racist" followed by "Fucking [minority group] are stealing our jobs and women" posts. Well, the egg's on my face.
It's all good as they were someone trying to call out DCJ.
Every single time these subs are like "umm, actually we are the moderates here", someone in the sub replies with some Nazi shit.
I'll bet they'd be ok if the artist's family kicked them out though...
They'd frame it as her being insufferable with her cult-like progressive views rather than transphobia, some of the comments hint or imply she sucks for that reason.
Always projection, innit?
Hah! Knew he was a Groyper!
This is the second time they have harassed this artist.
I wish Conservatives demanded the same loyalty to family from their ilk who disown and kick out their children when they come out as LGBT...
some people seem to have this weird idea that blood is infallible and thicker than anything, that you should always love your family or be by them, when the truth is you don't owe them shit
it's taken me over two decades of life to learn this and even as i get ready to move out and transition, i still have a hard time getting over the idea that i might have to cut off my mom when the time comes, because as much as i love her and know she loves me, it's impossible to know if she'll feel the same after i come out to her, because i know she already has a strong bias against people like me
As with most American right-wing subs the majority of users have likely been estranged by at least a few family members, refuse to understand why, and so continue to get irrationally angry whenever the subject comes up. They've got to protect themselves from examining their own life and why their own estranged loved one is likely right about them.
One of my favorite fun facts! "Blood is thicker than water" is actually paraphrasing the saying "The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb."
It completely reverses the meaning. Originally it meant that the people you choose to be in your life mean more than those you were put with due to the consequences of your birth.
Found Family > Bigots who changed your diapers.
Blood is thicker than water predates the “water of the womb” version by hundreds of years.
Me and my brothers were fucking molested by my uncle. I was repeatedly choked My dad wouldn’t do jack shit despite him being 50 years old but pretending like he’s a fucking child.
The Trump administration literally legally detransitioned millions of people. I know a trans person who can't get a passport and leave the country because his name and gender don't match what the administration decided he is. How is that not wanting trans people not to exist?
“I do wanna mention that the right does this too. It just isn’t as noticeable.” (in reference to the style of art)
uh huh. I must have dreamt up all those right-wing political comics where everything is labeled in case their audience is too Fox-brained to parse metaphors. Which, I mean, hey…
good old zyklon "cum" ben
If it were a Benny G comic, it’d say, “TRANS WOMAN,” over her and, “FAMILY THAT DOESN’T UNDERSTAND HER,” over the family. There’d also be a donkey holding a cartoon money bag in the top of the image and it’d say, “DEMOCRATS,” and, “NATIONAL DEBT.”
Sickos: Yes. . .ha ha ha. . .Yes!
this is an absolute gem of a rightwing strawman comic and it’s about as “subtle” as a neon pink bulldozer with strobe lighting
(the comment I linked is the original, not the post)
“Nebulous ideology” from Christians is hilarious.
These people would probably throw their kids out of their house if they came out as LGBT.
“Why would someone not want to spend time with people who treat them like rancid garbage? It’s probably some kind of cult or something, that’s the only thing that could possibly explain such weird behavior.”
Simply unbelievable
Im not longer talking to either of my parents. Both are conservative MAGA lovers who hate minorities and gays. I didn’t cut them out of my life. They cut me out of their lives because they couldn't handle me poi ting out how stupid they were. Not jsut about politics but literally everything. They were both in insane dept and kept cheating on their partners (they were both several times divorced but often talked about the sanity of marriage). I was too much of a negative in fleece in their lives with my stable job amd long term girlfriend.
What remarkable spelling and grammar you have. I'd almost want to attribute awkward turns of phrase like "a negative in fleece" to autocorrect, but that wouldn't explain how autocorrect missed all the misspelled non-words.
As a regular voice to text user I can report that it's been particularly bad at its job today
Ahh I guess that'd make sense. I didn't think voice-to-text would do things like "amd" though, but I don't have a ton of experience with it myself.
eldiablonoche is the alpha of that pack of self-awarewolves huh
It should have went down a few months ago like r/funnymeme but i guess they at least have a facade, no mattee how thin it is
Blue dot in red state here. These are the kinds of people that you cannot trust will not murder your queer friends. It's psychotic. The state government as a whole is trying to destroy the economic engine that keeps the whole place running specifically because we don't want to drive trans people to suicide.
Just because I reread it today, I want to drop a recommend for April Daniels's Dreadnought series. It is quite possibly one of the best Superhero stories I've ever read.
Im surrounded by trump supporters, if i left them alone i would have no family. That being said i have lost a lot of respect for them, my uncle is a great man and strong christian believer and ill never ask him who he supports because of this lol. Everyone in church thinks trump is a real christian and it only reveals their stupidity, when anyone talks about trump as if he everything he says is true it’s an instant tell that they are actually too stupid to know better. It honestly affects my faith in god, why would he let his people with the most faith be fooled so easily? He’s the exact definition of wolf in sheep clothing, if you can’t see that why would i believe anything you say?
It’s a Neo-Nazi safe space
BWAHAHAHAHAHAH. Hilarious