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Believe me, the level of faffing about the espresso sub users will go through is… a lot.
But at a certain point, you just have to get the good stuff if you want good coffee.
Hoffmann did a video comparing fresh ground vs cafe ground pour over (I think it was pour over, obviously not espresso) and the insanely expensive, cafe grinder had coffee that tasted better up to days 5-7 than anything a cheap-to-mid tier grinder was capable of. Like, I think he used a Baratza and it was still better to just get your weeks worth of coffee pre ground from a cafe with a good grinder that to use a cheap grinder with good beans.
The very short answer is that the big machine can grind your coffee with a narrower range of particle sizes. Cheap grinders, like a blade grinder, produce a lot of “fines”, very powdery particles that over-extract and create bitterness, as well as a lot of “boulders”, big chunks that under extract creating sourness thanks to sour-bitter palate confusion, both work to create a more bitter, fairly vile brew.
Well extracted coffee should be fairly “sweet” (not sugary, but a natural sweetness they way milk is relatively sweet tasting).
Coffee ground in a cafe grinder starts good and deteriorates. Coffee from a bad grinder starts bad and stays that way. The crossover is about a week where the well ground coffee deteriorates and tastes worse than the poor grinder, ground fresh.
That would explain why my coffee tasted instantly better when I thought my electric grinder died and switched to a mid quality hand grinder that was used as decoration in our house.
I’ve visited there. I appreciate the thoughtfulness people put into their efforts there.
I don’t think I personally have the palate to know the difference after a certain price point of product and equipment. Kind of like wine’s diminishing returns after a certain price point.
Unlike you weaklings I like my espresso with GRIT. I have a bottomless portafilter and by bottomless I MEAN BOTTOMLESS. The water barely touches the espresso before the puck is blasted into my mug. If you cant judge a coffee by its taste AND its watery crunch you are a fucking starbucks kiddie.
Grinder? And risk tainting the beans flavor by imparting the subtle off flavor of stainless steel and imparting an unwanted temperature change via friction? NO THANKS. My beans are roasted sous vide in a 100 gallon tub of mineral oil for maximum temperature consistency. I only buy beans that have come from one tree. Not one tree for each batch. One tree specifically. I get to drink espresso once every 9 years. I fly out personally and harvest them myself as to not let the workers hands impart an off-flavor. I magnetically levitate the beans in an inert atmosphere and launch them from a surplus soviet railgun 4560 miles directly into my roasting bath for maximum freshness.
Okay but there is no chance that a $800 coffee grinder has 8x the tolerance of a $100 grinder. I know costs don't scale linearly but I have a buddy who is huge into the "coffee hobby" and basically all of it reminds me the the "audiophile hobby" that I am in.
It's all the same marketing to get suckers separated from their money (it's me, a sucker who spends money on unnecessary audio gear)
And yes, the tolerances, burr quality, and motor all scale significantly over a $100. No plastic parts goes a long way to increasing cost. Import fees increase cost, too. When I bought mine it was around $650 juts a few years ago.
Another example is from the Weber company and their EG-1 grinder that has ridiculously tight tolerances and sells for $4k.
Don’t forget economies of scale, either. The home espresso market, while growing, is very, very small by comparison and those smaller scales can’t leverage mass production in the same way.
The thing is it's not worth $800. You're paying for marketing and branding at that price. Once you get over a few hundred dollars for the price of the components being higher quality, there isn't any difference between Burr grinders.
You hit diminishing returns after a couple hundred bucks, but not “no difference.”
There is a huge variety between burr grinders, even at different tiers from the same maker.
Edit: I should add that, even among enthusiasts, Eureka has virtually zero branding and marketing. They’ve just been in the game forever. Especially when compared to companies like Niche and Fellow.
And then marketing. You are also paying for all of the marketing they do. You are buying a brand name. You don't get any additional utility from buying a brand name.
You can see the particle distribution data for grinders which shows you’re completely wrong. It’s not just people claiming things wildly, there’s objective measurements.
Actually if you look again after a price of a couple hundred dollars there is no gain in function.
Yes to a certain extent a more expensive grinder is better. But at a certain point that stops being true and you are paying for marketing and a name brand.
Coward. Make a comment and then block me.
Nothing you have said has contradicted my statements.
Yeah, just move on. The commenter has a thorn in their side that I’m sure someone stuck there at some point saying that what you’re paying for is marketing and took it to mean that’s all you pay for and proceeded to build a whole personality around a bullet point from a first year college course.
At the ending the day, even if it is all marketing, that money still goes to the engineers that designed the product and to the manufacturers that built and assembled the parts. Largely at the scale of pay and work requirements put in place by the EU, since the top end Eureka products are built in Italy.
It’s just what things actually cost when fair wages are provided. Especially on products that will last years to decades.
The differences can be pretty staggering actually. pushes up nerd glassses
$800 grinders are usually the top of that curve and the stuff above them is that 1%.
A bladed “grinder” (~$30) is a fucking joke and you might as well drink Folgers pre ground at that point.
An electric burr grinder (usually ceramic burrs) $40-100 is not very uniform and will wear down/break… but is some form of uniformity… so infinitely better than blades.
The $100-500 range can get you metal burrs and better uniformity. In general likely to live longer and you can find functionally useful grinders here.
$500-800 we start finding better materials (metal plastic), better consistency and good machines for “daily driver”/lasts a lifetime. Personally:
I have had and used the spectrum above. Blades are ass. Ceramic… had a lot of static cling and died in under a year. Cheap burr also static cling. My electric journey capped in that $500-800 range with a Niche Zero. It was great but at the same time I picked up a “very expensive” hand grinder called the Comandante. Hand grinders are slow and tedious but I only make a single cup a day and its accuracy is factors above electric grinders under $800. I sold the Niche Zero for pretty much what I paid for it. I’ve been very happy with my hand grinder for well over a year and it’s become part of my routine obviously.
This is interesting to me even though I drink whatever is on sale at the supermarket preground canned coffee. So, here is my question. If I could only choose one or the other, what would make better in your opinion, all other things being equal?
A high quality grinder with mediocre quality beans, or high quality beans with a mediocre grinder?
I would choose the high quality grinder because you can play the most with the beans. You waste opportunity with great beans if you can’t dial (or play) with them.
All wine tastes the same unless you are some hardcore wine connoisseur…. when I tasted different wines for our wedding it was minimal difference and certainly not worth the price tag some had
I mean that’s willful ignorance. I’m by no means even a slight connoisseur but it’s very easy to separate different wines by at least sweetness, dryness, strong vs weak flavors. It’s fine if you don’t like it or appreciate it but if you served Franzia boxes at your wedding I’m sure plenty of people noticed.
Are there no drinks you have a preference for? Coffee is coffee, wine is wine, all beer is the same? Might as well get the $10 handle of whiskey?
This just confirms your taste buds are destroyed. I would suggest to cut down on your salt and sugar intake and quit smoking, if you do. You'll see a huge difference and it will actually open a new world of flavors to you.
This one's hand made in Italy. Also has very high quality burrs. But I'm sure someone else can give more detailed answers. I don't think I would've ever purchased this at full price. I was considering buying a different brand for around $250 and that's still a bit steep for me
Lots of coffee/espresso tools can get pretty expensive. There are some grinders that are $3-6k and that's just to grind coffee. Some higher end espresso machines are also in the thousands of dollars range
Espresso is a totally different beast, my friend. Most folks think it's the machine that makes great espresso but truly it's the grinder as you need a very very fine grind for a proper pull.
You'd be surprised what a $100 machine and a $800 grinder combo can make!
I don’t know if $800 is the right number for this, but as the price goes up the consistency of the grind goes up. You want all the coffee particles to be the same size so they infuse and release with the water at the same rate. You also want it to grind the same size day in and day out. Then you want to have fine and sturdy adjustability of the gap between the grinding plates, as well as a power motor and high quality burrs. So you have some pretty high cost high precision parts inside.
Awesome but I can’t get over how weird it looks lol. The grinder part looks like it could be worth a lot of money. But the top container looks like it’s worth $13 😂 they couldn’t curve the plastic or use glass or something lol
I'm of the opinion that items of that price should not have plastic components at all. Why this is $800 I have no fucking clue. I don't understand how they can justify that price.
Do you mean the hopper? You wouldn’t want that to be glass, trust me. The price is pretty much the burrs. I have one of these grinders and the build quality is very solid.
The way you can justify it is you use it multiple times a day, and that’s just what it costs for a 65mm flat burr grinder. There are some slightly cheaper Chinese ones you can get, but that’s pretty much just what they cost.
If you want to know why you would want a flat burr grinder: consistency, and flavour. The more consistent your grind, the easier it is to dial in your coffee. Things like fines (basically really small particles in your grounds), can drastically change the speed in which your coffee flows.
Surely for $800 they'd be able to incorporate a sensor or something? Though I am admittedly paranoid of microplastics. Maybe a translucent silicone instead
Editing this to mention that plastic-free grinders absolutely exist, and for $800 I'd expect better.
Wish the thrift stores around here had some nice items like this... seems like the stores around here require items to have roaches and a value under $5.
Damn dude. Have you tried running it? I'm trying to think of why somebody would have this at the Goodwill and not sell it on ebay or something. When I worked in coffee there was a shop that tried to use butter to lubricate the burrs and it was an absolute nightmare to fully clean, that's like the only thing I can think of.
It cannot accomplish what a $13 grinder can though. Why buy a higher quality (anything from any hobby or craft) when a cheaper version exists that can't perform nearly as well? For someone outside of said hobby and craft, it makes no sense. But to someone who knows the value of such a thing, it's obvious.
Grinders like this make the grinds come out nearly uniform on a microscopic level. When you introduce hot water to those grinds, each individual speck of coffee extracts it's flavor at the same rate. You get a level of consistency that's unbeatable with something even just the next tier down, and gets completely demolished in performance by something the next tier up.
Why buy a $700 all metal internal sewing machine when you can buy a $100 plastic one?
Why but a $5000 downhill mountain bike when you can buy a $500 chinese frankenbike?
Why buy anything that's buy it for life quality when you can just buy something with cheap components that performs poorly?
If the demand didn't exist, none of these things would exist. Just because some do not see the value, does not mean there isn't a difference lol. This isn't even that expensive compared to what you see in cafes around the world.
You were being a dick by shitting all over OP's excitement, dog. Me bringing you up to speed about why that was the wrong take doesn't make you the victim.
I made a comment saying I dont understand why someone would buy something like that at that price point. Not once did I 'shit over ops excitment.' I asked out loud a question i had and then went on to say nice find. Go back and read my post if you dont believe me. How exactly is that being a dick, big dog?
I think our intentions were both misread then. It was a dick move for me to say did I make my point so for that I apologize. But yeah, more or less I was answering your question. It initially read as you saying "that's dumb that anyone would place any value on something that could be bought as a cheaper version" which was just an absurd take. Probably not your intention though right?
Nope, just musing as to just -why- someone would buy something for that much for what I feel wouldn't be worth the price, which you came and explained why I was off base.
All good though man, glad to find a resolve! Take care.
Espresso is one of those hobbies that sometimes has rich people get into it and then they realize "holy shit I actually have to learn the intricacies of this and more money spent does not easily equal good espresso". They then sell their shit, which gets less-rich people into the realm of possibilities that usually only money can buy. But yeah, this $800 grinder is the price you pay if you desire to end the constant chase for the next big purchase. This is as close to as good as you can get for in home use. Everything else is meant to churn beans at a cafe's relentless pace. Have a good one mate. Sorry I was being a misunderstanding dipshit earlier.
You don’t have to spend 800 for a quality electric espresso grinder but you do have to spend hundreds of dollars minimum, so 800 is just going to reflect more durable components, better noise isolation, more features etc. I have a bottom-tier Eureka grinder and it cost $300+ and is worth every penny for the consistency I’ve been able to get from my espresso shots now, having spent years trying to make cheaper grinders work. Most every-day grinders simply can’t do it.
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I love this sub because yall find things that I would never even notice!! This is awesome!!
I 2nd this emotion... yeah. Thrilled...chuffed....grrr
That costs more than...ummm...everything I own!
Edit: Plot twist: I meant the $13
What makes a coffee grinder worth $800?
That’s not even the most expensive ones.
But in general, the same thing that raises the cost of anything: consistency and tighter tolerances.
This is a grinder for espresso and, with very little maintenance will last an entire lifetime.
I used to belong to the espresso sub, and the culture is really over the top. to people that indulge in it, it’s an exacting science.
100%
Believe me, the level of faffing about the espresso sub users will go through is… a lot.
But at a certain point, you just have to get the good stuff if you want good coffee.
Hoffmann did a video comparing fresh ground vs cafe ground pour over (I think it was pour over, obviously not espresso) and the insanely expensive, cafe grinder had coffee that tasted better up to days 5-7 than anything a cheap-to-mid tier grinder was capable of. Like, I think he used a Baratza and it was still better to just get your weeks worth of coffee pre ground from a cafe with a good grinder that to use a cheap grinder with good beans.
Do you have any idea why?
The very short answer is that the big machine can grind your coffee with a narrower range of particle sizes. Cheap grinders, like a blade grinder, produce a lot of “fines”, very powdery particles that over-extract and create bitterness, as well as a lot of “boulders”, big chunks that under extract creating sourness thanks to sour-bitter palate confusion, both work to create a more bitter, fairly vile brew.
Well extracted coffee should be fairly “sweet” (not sugary, but a natural sweetness they way milk is relatively sweet tasting).
Coffee ground in a cafe grinder starts good and deteriorates. Coffee from a bad grinder starts bad and stays that way. The crossover is about a week where the well ground coffee deteriorates and tastes worse than the poor grinder, ground fresh.
If you want to get super nerdy with it: https://youtu.be/NxklrAQfupw?si=7efYe3n3Ntgvd8Sh
(The grinder used was real cheap)
I'm not the person you replied to, but that was a really good answer and I learnt a lot. Thank you!
I’m glad it was useful!
That would explain why my coffee tasted instantly better when I thought my electric grinder died and switched to a mid quality hand grinder that was used as decoration in our house.
Thanks for the informative reply. I will rethink my grinder!
I’ve visited there. I appreciate the thoughtfulness people put into their efforts there.
I don’t think I personally have the palate to know the difference after a certain price point of product and equipment. Kind of like wine’s diminishing returns after a certain price point.
Unlike you weaklings I like my espresso with GRIT. I have a bottomless portafilter and by bottomless I MEAN BOTTOMLESS. The water barely touches the espresso before the puck is blasted into my mug. If you cant judge a coffee by its taste AND its watery crunch you are a fucking starbucks kiddie.
Grinder? And risk tainting the beans flavor by imparting the subtle off flavor of stainless steel and imparting an unwanted temperature change via friction? NO THANKS. My beans are roasted sous vide in a 100 gallon tub of mineral oil for maximum temperature consistency. I only buy beans that have come from one tree. Not one tree for each batch. One tree specifically. I get to drink espresso once every 9 years. I fly out personally and harvest them myself as to not let the workers hands impart an off-flavor. I magnetically levitate the beans in an inert atmosphere and launch them from a surplus soviet railgun 4560 miles directly into my roasting bath for maximum freshness.
Mr. Hoffman, is that you?!
Okay but there is no chance that a $800 coffee grinder has 8x the tolerance of a $100 grinder. I know costs don't scale linearly but I have a buddy who is huge into the "coffee hobby" and basically all of it reminds me the the "audiophile hobby" that I am in.
It's all the same marketing to get suckers separated from their money (it's me, a sucker who spends money on unnecessary audio gear)
You answered your own question.
And yes, the tolerances, burr quality, and motor all scale significantly over a $100. No plastic parts goes a long way to increasing cost. Import fees increase cost, too. When I bought mine it was around $650 juts a few years ago.
Another example is from the Weber company and their EG-1 grinder that has ridiculously tight tolerances and sells for $4k.
Don’t forget economies of scale, either. The home espresso market, while growing, is very, very small by comparison and those smaller scales can’t leverage mass production in the same way.
The thing is it's not worth $800. You're paying for marketing and branding at that price. Once you get over a few hundred dollars for the price of the components being higher quality, there isn't any difference between Burr grinders.
You hit diminishing returns after a couple hundred bucks, but not “no difference.”
There is a huge variety between burr grinders, even at different tiers from the same maker.
Edit: I should add that, even among enthusiasts, Eureka has virtually zero branding and marketing. They’ve just been in the game forever. Especially when compared to companies like Niche and Fellow.
You sure know your grinders. Cool info on coffee chemistry
There literally aren't different components that can be bought.
That's the thing. There is no physical object which can be put in the grinders which would drive the value of the item up at that point.
So there is no possible reason for the cost to grow beyond a certain point. Other than name brand and marketing
Manufacturing tolerances, scale of production, labor rights and wages of the EU, and so on.
No one is telling you to buy it, and you’re welcome to buy whatever lower cost grinder you want if it works for you.
You can contribute to believe whatever you want about cost, but a well built, solid, reliable product costs money. Just is what it is.
And then marketing. You are also paying for all of the marketing they do. You are buying a brand name. You don't get any additional utility from buying a brand name.
You can see the particle distribution data for grinders which shows you’re completely wrong. It’s not just people claiming things wildly, there’s objective measurements.
Actually if you look again after a price of a couple hundred dollars there is no gain in function.
Yes to a certain extent a more expensive grinder is better. But at a certain point that stops being true and you are paying for marketing and a name brand.
Coward. Make a comment and then block me.
Nothing you have said has contradicted my statements.
You are simply buying marketing.
You’ve had it explained to you multiple times. Enjoy your uninformed opinion.
Yeah, just move on. The commenter has a thorn in their side that I’m sure someone stuck there at some point saying that what you’re paying for is marketing and took it to mean that’s all you pay for and proceeded to build a whole personality around a bullet point from a first year college course.
At the ending the day, even if it is all marketing, that money still goes to the engineers that designed the product and to the manufacturers that built and assembled the parts. Largely at the scale of pay and work requirements put in place by the EU, since the top end Eureka products are built in Italy.
It’s just what things actually cost when fair wages are provided. Especially on products that will last years to decades.
But it’s just marketing, surely.
Meh. Coffee is coffee.
Some people drink whatever drip coffee they can find, some people make it a hobby. Just like everything else in the world
Some people are willing to spend $800 to make their coffee 1% better. Chasing the law of diminishing returns.
The differences can be pretty staggering actually. pushes up nerd glassses
$800 grinders are usually the top of that curve and the stuff above them is that 1%.
A bladed “grinder” (~$30) is a fucking joke and you might as well drink Folgers pre ground at that point.
An electric burr grinder (usually ceramic burrs) $40-100 is not very uniform and will wear down/break… but is some form of uniformity… so infinitely better than blades.
The $100-500 range can get you metal burrs and better uniformity. In general likely to live longer and you can find functionally useful grinders here.
$500-800 we start finding better materials (metal plastic), better consistency and good machines for “daily driver”/lasts a lifetime.
Personally:
I have had and used the spectrum above. Blades are ass. Ceramic… had a lot of static cling and died in under a year. Cheap burr also static cling. My electric journey capped in that $500-800 range with a Niche Zero. It was great but at the same time I picked up a “very expensive” hand grinder called the Comandante.
Hand grinders are slow and tedious but I only make a single cup a day and its accuracy is factors above electric grinders under $800. I sold the Niche Zero for pretty much what I paid for it. I’ve been very happy with my hand grinder for well over a year and it’s become part of my routine obviously.
This is interesting to me even though I drink whatever is on sale at the supermarket preground canned coffee. So, here is my question. If I could only choose one or the other, what would make better in your opinion, all other things being equal? A high quality grinder with mediocre quality beans, or high quality beans with a mediocre grinder?
I would choose the high quality grinder because you can play the most with the beans. You waste opportunity with great beans if you can’t dial (or play) with them.
Beans 100%.
You could get good beans and smash with a hammer and it would be better than cheap beans ground with this grinder.
There are more local roasters than you might think.
I order subscription that is more than I can drink k from:
https://www.mountaineerroasting.com/subscriptions/p/style-01-ej5na-akd24-ncs5w
In this case, it’s largely what’s required to have good espresso.
You can get away with a lot less for decent French press.
Who cares lol
Not my money. They can do what they want. Just stating facts.
I would gladly sell this to them for a portion of $800 because it means more to them than me.
Not really. It's like saying wine is wine.
There’s plenty of people who say that though lol.
All wine tastes the same unless you are some hardcore wine connoisseur…. when I tasted different wines for our wedding it was minimal difference and certainly not worth the price tag some had
I mean that’s willful ignorance. I’m by no means even a slight connoisseur but it’s very easy to separate different wines by at least sweetness, dryness, strong vs weak flavors. It’s fine if you don’t like it or appreciate it but if you served Franzia boxes at your wedding I’m sure plenty of people noticed.
Are there no drinks you have a preference for? Coffee is coffee, wine is wine, all beer is the same? Might as well get the $10 handle of whiskey?
This just confirms your taste buds are destroyed. I would suggest to cut down on your salt and sugar intake and quit smoking, if you do. You'll see a huge difference and it will actually open a new world of flavors to you.
This one's hand made in Italy. Also has very high quality burrs. But I'm sure someone else can give more detailed answers. I don't think I would've ever purchased this at full price. I was considering buying a different brand for around $250 and that's still a bit steep for me
Lots of coffee/espresso tools can get pretty expensive. There are some grinders that are $3-6k and that's just to grind coffee. Some higher end espresso machines are also in the thousands of dollars range
Espresso is a totally different beast, my friend. Most folks think it's the machine that makes great espresso but truly it's the grinder as you need a very very fine grind for a proper pull.
You'd be surprised what a $100 machine and a $800 grinder combo can make!
Obligatory grind finer /r/espresso
Order of relevance IMHO:
1. Water (it’s literally 99.x% of the coffee)
2. Beans
3. Grinder
4. Prep
5. Machine
6. The million other things, lol.
i don’t disagree but water is 50% of an espresso shot by weight
Totally had my mind on pour over, Sorry! You are correct that Espresso is way less water.
Tiny changes to grind size can make a major difference to espresso flavor.
Like the difference between the best coffee you’ve ever had and an unbearably sour, undrinkable mess.
More expensive grinders can be more precisely dialed, more consistent, and last longer. Also don’t retain the ground coffee like cheaper ones.
Generally the grinder is actually more important than the espresso machine.
Ugh. I got covid three years ago and my sense of taste is just wrecked. I miss being able to enjoy a great drink or meal.
Truly, it looks like a plastic container for the top
The emperor wears no clothes.
I don’t know if $800 is the right number for this, but as the price goes up the consistency of the grind goes up. You want all the coffee particles to be the same size so they infuse and release with the water at the same rate. You also want it to grind the same size day in and day out. Then you want to have fine and sturdy adjustability of the gap between the grinding plates, as well as a power motor and high quality burrs. So you have some pretty high cost high precision parts inside.
Nothing. They are paying for brand name snake oil.
Once you get over a couple hundred dollars for the higher quality components you're just paying for the marketing.
The only time I've opened this Sub and immediately began fuming 😂🖕♥️
i just use a plastic bag and a hammer
🤣
It's efficient because then you can just brew in the plastic bag.
you can?
sky's the limit, my friend.
Congrats!
Awesome but I can’t get over how weird it looks lol. The grinder part looks like it could be worth a lot of money. But the top container looks like it’s worth $13 😂 they couldn’t curve the plastic or use glass or something lol
Right? That was clearly the cheap-out point.
What machine will you pair this with?
Mr.Coffee deluxe
I'm of the opinion that items of that price should not have plastic components at all. Why this is $800 I have no fucking clue. I don't understand how they can justify that price.
I was just thinking that too. Reminded me of Vita-mix blenders which are $$$ but the top part is still plastic. But what do I know!
Plastic is see through and durable
There is absolutely no excuse. Glass and silicone are not hard to come by.
Do you mean the hopper? You wouldn’t want that to be glass, trust me. The price is pretty much the burrs. I have one of these grinders and the build quality is very solid.
The way you can justify it is you use it multiple times a day, and that’s just what it costs for a 65mm flat burr grinder. There are some slightly cheaper Chinese ones you can get, but that’s pretty much just what they cost.
If you want to know why you would want a flat burr grinder: consistency, and flavour. The more consistent your grind, the easier it is to dial in your coffee. Things like fines (basically really small particles in your grounds), can drastically change the speed in which your coffee flows.
Why can't the hopper be metal?
Because that would be incredibly annoying, the level of beans is pretty vital information.
Surely for $800 they'd be able to incorporate a sensor or something? Though I am admittedly paranoid of microplastics. Maybe a translucent silicone instead
Editing this to mention that plastic-free grinders absolutely exist, and for $800 I'd expect better.
It just grinds coffee? Any bourbon in that?
Nice lol.
To be fair, I can understand whoever priced that. It doesn't really look like much.
That’s absolutely insane! I’ve got the Eureka Mignon Specialita chrome and it’s been an amazing addition to my espresso setup.
Damn that’s a fucking steal. Second I saw the photo I could tell it’s a Eureka. I have the Eureka Mignon Notte and I love it despite how noisy it is.
I wonder where they got it from
Happy cake day
Damn. Well done!!
Wow
I saw your post earlier on espresso sub and thought fuck you and have fun with it. This is totally the 'find grinder' achievement.
Daaaaaaaaamn!
I thought the second photo was the grinder sitting on the floor, and was like that is one big ass coffee grinder
Damn I would not even look twice at that in a thrift shop.. maybe I should pay more attention
Whoa nice find! Love that you can see the beans when it is filed!!
https://preview.redd.it/tgc3oasdnscg1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=9fafd442b12edb79ecabc2be7083a5bd8401eb98
Nice find!
https://preview.redd.it/4zb6ycccrscg1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b42eff9ce7214028e5157fe8de8ad8cf773683da
Coffee stuff in general worth an extra peek - they can’t seem to price it well. Congrats!
nice trick to fool your wife
Very cool! Wishing you many happy cups ☕️
I’m looking for a decent coffee grinder on my thrifting trips right now. So jealous!
This is insane!
Congrats… I’m totally not jealous.
Damn Jules, that's some gourmet shit there!
Wish the thrift stores around here had some nice items like this... seems like the stores around here require items to have roaches and a value under $5.
That shitty plastic hopper looks like the kind of brittle plastic that a dishwasher will ruin. Hand wash only, op!
Damn dude. Have you tried running it? I'm trying to think of why somebody would have this at the Goodwill and not sell it on ebay or something. When I worked in coffee there was a shop that tried to use butter to lubricate the burrs and it was an absolute nightmare to fully clean, that's like the only thing I can think of.
that woul be minimum $500 at my local goodwill
Who would spend $800 on a coffee grinder
You have no idea
Lol yes I know I have no idea
800 is tame. The money coffee enthusiasts will spend; my god, the sky’s the limit.
Someone who doesn't want to spend 6 bucks a day at Starbucks.
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Happy for you
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No coffee grinder should be 'worth' $800 anyhow, so let's say a $30 grinder for $13, used.
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I have a wooden hand-cranked one that is just as good
It’s objectively not but I’m glad you’re happy.
Can’t imagine $800 to grind one specific thing. Everything in the kitchen should have 2-3 uses.
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Awesome find!
But why? What would spending $800 on a coffee grinder accomplish that a literal $13 grinder could do just the same?
I swear some people buy things just because its expensive no matter how much better the cheap alternative is.
Nice pick up though.
Consistent grind size is critical for good espresso.
It cannot accomplish what a $13 grinder can though. Why buy a higher quality (anything from any hobby or craft) when a cheaper version exists that can't perform nearly as well? For someone outside of said hobby and craft, it makes no sense. But to someone who knows the value of such a thing, it's obvious.
Grinders like this make the grinds come out nearly uniform on a microscopic level. When you introduce hot water to those grinds, each individual speck of coffee extracts it's flavor at the same rate. You get a level of consistency that's unbeatable with something even just the next tier down, and gets completely demolished in performance by something the next tier up.
Why buy a $700 all metal internal sewing machine when you can buy a $100 plastic one?
Why but a $5000 downhill mountain bike when you can buy a $500 chinese frankenbike?
Why buy anything that's buy it for life quality when you can just buy something with cheap components that performs poorly?
If the demand didn't exist, none of these things would exist. Just because some do not see the value, does not mean there isn't a difference lol. This isn't even that expensive compared to what you see in cafes around the world.
Did I make my point?
Yes but you didnt have to be a dick about it.
You were being a dick by shitting all over OP's excitement, dog. Me bringing you up to speed about why that was the wrong take doesn't make you the victim.
I made a comment saying I dont understand why someone would buy something like that at that price point. Not once did I 'shit over ops excitment.' I asked out loud a question i had and then went on to say nice find. Go back and read my post if you dont believe me. How exactly is that being a dick, big dog?
Youre the one that came in attacking.
I think our intentions were both misread then. It was a dick move for me to say did I make my point so for that I apologize. But yeah, more or less I was answering your question. It initially read as you saying "that's dumb that anyone would place any value on something that could be bought as a cheaper version" which was just an absurd take. Probably not your intention though right?
Nope, just musing as to just -why- someone would buy something for that much for what I feel wouldn't be worth the price, which you came and explained why I was off base.
All good though man, glad to find a resolve! Take care.
Espresso is one of those hobbies that sometimes has rich people get into it and then they realize "holy shit I actually have to learn the intricacies of this and more money spent does not easily equal good espresso". They then sell their shit, which gets less-rich people into the realm of possibilities that usually only money can buy. But yeah, this $800 grinder is the price you pay if you desire to end the constant chase for the next big purchase. This is as close to as good as you can get for in home use. Everything else is meant to churn beans at a cafe's relentless pace. Have a good one mate. Sorry I was being a misunderstanding dipshit earlier.
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You were a dick about it though. Take it as a learning experience to not have such passionate opinions on subjects you know nothing about.
I completely disagree but respect your opinion. Have a good one man!
You don’t have to spend 800 for a quality electric espresso grinder but you do have to spend hundreds of dollars minimum, so 800 is just going to reflect more durable components, better noise isolation, more features etc. I have a bottom-tier Eureka grinder and it cost $300+ and is worth every penny for the consistency I’ve been able to get from my espresso shots now, having spent years trying to make cheaper grinders work. Most every-day grinders simply can’t do it.