In season 1 episode 5, Pria mentions the Orville was destroyed in the dark matter storm, which is why she picked that time to take the ship to the future. As a result she saved the Orville. And thanks to the two part alternate timeline arc, we know the Orville itself is the key to saving humanity.
So not only is she the reason that humans manage to survive the initial Kalon attack. But it begs the question, how is humanity still around in the 29th question to find the time travelling wormhole?
That’s if you actually believe her; she has been known to lie.
They only hit the dark matter storm because they were off course rescuing her and then bringing her to the outpost.
True, but she seemed to know the Orville. Well enough to know when it was in that specific location. So if it never was destroyed and that was a lie, why would she knowingly doom humanity? She's shown to be smart and deceptive, but I doubt she'd knowingly commit humanity to its destruction
I mean she is a freaking human, and she was making deals with organic aliens so…like what more proof do you need to know she was full of it? Like she didn’t even mention Kaylons during her whole stay on The Orville. So one could assume either the invasion was called off once Isaac was destroyed by the dark matter storm, or it wasn’t actually going to happen, or the writers just left the time travel episode behind for other plot heavy purposes.
The time line is fluid due to decisions made by the people traveling through it.
We don't actually know if the Orville would have been destroyed had she not interfered because it's possible they never would have been in that part of space, they were there because they diverted course to rescue her.
Odds are she was just a thief making shit up.
If you recall in S3 when Gordon is sent back in time the crew is able to look up his obituary but still remembers what the time line should have been. This is because the time line is still in flux until the crew makes the decision to go back for him or not.
Pria's entire history could have been radically altered up to and including the extinction of organic life if she had succeeded. By closing the wormhole in the present she could never have come back to "rescue" them which leads us to believe she was lying. It also explains why she is never mentioned again
You’re assuming that the Kalon invasion plays out the same way if the Orville is destroyed in the dark matter storm as if ed Mercer isn’t captain, that’s not guaranteed. It’s possible in Priya’s timeline when Isaac was destroyed in the dark matter storm, the Kalon invasion was delayed until a new emissary could gather the data they needed and that resulted in the battle going differently. Or maybe, for some reason, they chose not to invade at all. Either way, it’s possible in Priya’s timeline the kalon don’t destroy humanity and the Orville has nothing to do with it.
She is from the future not totally unbelievable to know it’s course. If she never showed up events play out as is. If she took the Orville the Kaylans have to start over.
That assumes she has perfect knowledge in the 29th, which she might not. She may have some fragmentary records of ship movements, but not a complete Union history of the time, so she knows the Orville's location but not its larger role in that era, for instance.
The real answer, of course, is probably that the specific time travel story later hadn't been conceived yet so there was no concern with the Pria story. And then the specific characters of the latter story never experienced the first so there's never a need to specifically explain how it works, leaving it to us to figure out how we think it might have gone.
Or in her timeline the Orville is believed to have been destroyed in the Dark matter storm as it went missing. But future her succeeded in bringing the ship through to the future.
As a sort of self fulfilling prophecy.
Destroying the Orville also destroys Issac. So the Kalyan would have to start over again with the emissary. That delay might be why humans survive in her timeline.
This. The kaylons don't even attack when Isaac is deactivated, but when he's brought back to his planet. This is reiterated in the comics.
Also, I think he says he completed his mission on the time accelerated world, indicating it would have taken him generations to finish. By that point, humanity might have had various time Machine weapons to fight the invasion.
This might also explain why he wanted to observe Dr Finn’s family for multiple generations, it was part of his design to be curious about that kind of thing.
Though her existance hints at a timeline, where biological life succeeded over Kaylon and even Humans still exist in said future. Plus there seems to be a working economy, otherwise she would not have a wealthy buyer who just collects something with little practical use.
Though does NOT imply the survival of the Union which does not have wealth. Earth seems to have survived at least, humans as well, but the union either fell apart or changed form significantly
I mean, the most important thing is, that seemingly biologic life survived. The Union possibly falling apart is just a small setback for sentient life, new alliances will always be forged.
There’s also the possibly that humans eventually find a way to defeat the Kaylon, like we see in season 3.
Let’s say that The Orville is destroyed and a ton of humanity is killed. As we saw at the end of season 2, it’s 100% of humanity that’s wiped out and there are resistance fighters. Humans aren’t going to just roll over and die and let the Kaylon win. They’re keep fighting until they can’t anymore. Even if The Orville is destroyed, maybe someone eventually comes up with an effective way to fight back. Without the Orville and Ed’s team, maybe the weapon from Domino (or something similar) is still developed and used and wipes out the Kaylon all together.
Like, the solution they discover is a relatively simple one, a fairly basic fatal flaw in Kaylon design, so provided some cluster of folks survive to work that puzzle, it's pretty reasonable they eventually figure it out. A longer, drawn out conflict with the Kaylon actively targeting survival assets for biologicals also suggests how the 29th century could see a return to a scarcity economy, because there may genuinely be major resource crunches depending on how the Kaylon waged the war and how long winning/stalemating them took.
I think the story that the Orville was destroyed was a lie. After all, Pria is the one who said it and there was no corroborating evidence. Think about it. Pria came from the future. She knew the Orville was going to be in that dark matter storm and thought it would be an easy steal. Either in some iteration of the past, the Orville really was destroyed, so Pria knew she could steal the ship before it was, or she did steal the ship and when it turned up missing, the Union declared it lost/destroyed. By defeating her, the future from that point forward was changed one way or another, and onward we went.
If they hadn’t rescued Pria, would they even have been in that dark matter storm in the first place? Didn’t them rescuing her already alter where/when the Orville would be when it should have been destroyed? I always assumed she was full of shit, but it’s been a while since a rewatch.
Good question. Probably depends on what history originally led to Pria coming back in time. We may never know since that part of history no longer exists.
I just want to know why a monetary system came back into play on earth - Pria's mission is totally fueled by money gained from selling the Orville, so why this job? Did humans get bored or something?
I really made a mistake in posting this when I was high. Cos now the time travel bs is just giving me a headache 😭
You guys will not get me into a discussion of time travel logic; I'd rather chew broken glass.
It's entertaining what nonsence people produce when talking about time travel. Time-travel is impossible and time-travel paradoxes don't exist.
Her failure to steal the Orville is what saves humanity.