Played a bunch already. Very fun set, going ti take ages to try everything out. I was dubious about how they would show how to unlock each champion, but they did it in a very straightforward way
same I was worried before I played my first game yesterday, as I always learn and try stuff while climp ranked at the same time. This set looks like motivate me longer then the last set where I dropped after plat because I had done every thing compered to the impossible finale traits what dont feel good for me playing 50 game and try hit 1 time the aoe finisher : D
Hover unit to him for around 3 seconds. There should be animation where he opens his mouth. Sometimes it gets bugged so just hover it and wait then drop unit
You hold it over like the other guy said, but (from what I've noticed on mobile) Tahm doesn't have an animation for prepping his mouth like on PC. He just stands there, but will still eat units.
You can't consistently do it. I was able to get it to work once, every time after it would just swap the units (yes I'm aware of the once per round restriction).
Are you consistently losing to this?
The reason I ask is because while you can get the units in a shop I'm pretty sure it's a limited pool/unit. In the scraps
Also the devs recognizes that in some ways it's easier to get 3* units of locked units, so it's already quite hard to get them to 3*.
You're either getting high rolled or he's outclassing you hard in the lobby
I had one game where 5 people went bilgewater 3 of them top 4. None of them had problems getting their units with tempo, sure none of them 3 starred Nautilus but who cares.
You dont cap with bilgewater its a 5 cost soup with 3 bilgewater (tahm, mf, naut usually). The most op part is the free insane items you get specifically the burn and chill, and the hp regen one. Insane hp/ap stats with tahm. Geuinely busted comp it has no downsides other than the vertical sucking late game.
Bilgewater has won 8 of the 11 games I've now played. That's not the biggest sample size, but it absolutely ruined my placements trying to not run Bilgewater.
While Bilgewater is used for the theorticial best board, its basically a piltover / legendary board (depending on variation you play) rather than a bilgewater board. You just use bilgewater for a strong midgame and to get bilgewater items for your MF and Nautilus
Actually no, it doesnt. It says C tier on the tab for vertical bilgewater. The link i provided should take you to the C tier vertical bilgewater tab. The S tier comp version is the version that a legendary board that only uses MF, Nautilus, and Tahm Kench which i addressed with the rest of my comment.
In the now deleted comment it references how he read the vertical bilgewater comp as being S tier when I linked it, not thinking that the legendary board version was the S tier. Would be pretty strange to double down on thinking vertical bilgewater is rated as S tier if he knew that it actually wasn't.
Plus, in the original comment, it mentions the comp buying out 3* 4 costs. Which is only something that happens when you are playing 7 bilgewater since dropping the units means you wont find Fizz or MF in the special shop anymore. Sure, they might have been talking about it as a full 7 bilgewater toggle while holding a bunch of legendary units, but are we really supposed to believe that in 8 out of 11 matches he faced off again people with full legendary boards + half a bench of bilgewater units just for toggling shop to roll for 3* 4 costs? How are people affording that?
Yeah the buff they gave to fizz and Mf before going live were huge. You can just stabilize with the silver shop and use gold only on levels for a good chunk of the game. By the time you get to 9 on like 4-3, you can just throw in 5 costs, really really good
Is Singed a real unit? 8 dmg per second 1 star, 18 dmg per second 2 star?? Sure he poisons the whole board but thats like... Nothing? I remember on PBE his dmg was far higher, what happened?
I think it might be referring to this augment? But I am not certain. Even though it is listed as "1", no "2" or "3" are listed in the gold/prismatic augments lists.
I'm getting so sick of this Bilgewater eco meta. This is lowkey one of the most OP thing ever released on TFT. Not only are the cost for the units incredibly cheap, but 15 serpent coins per round is still pretty high.
Patch 16.1 B was not enough to nerf bilge. Voids are to weak, they need more buffs. No way to win with them against bilge. We need def more hard bilge and MF nerfs.
This set is so bad. It's absolutely pointless having a frontline, all the high cost units just kill your backline through your frontline. It's completely redundant
I just had a question about Atakhan. I'm trying to grind out the pass and one of the missions I have left is the field Atakhan with 4000 hp one. I just hit this board in tocker's while trying to do the mission and it still didn't meet the threshold.. I'm just wondering if anyone's actually done this or if it's harder in tocker's for whatever reason.
Is dragons mail and lifting competition supposed to work against each other? If a bruiser unit is wearing the moguls mail it makes it impossible to trigger lifting competition until you remove the mail
Is there a new bug or working as intended ? Sett makes t tex not working multiple times in a game versus one player with sett in the jump ejects the pilot even though T rex isn’t dead ?
Is there any reason to play Ixtal 5? The 250 HP just seems kinda worthless in comparison to running other units. It feels like you either just run 3 or run all 7 if you get a lucky emblem.
Interesting... So the Ixtal units regain two player health for you when you have five? That's actually not bad for solo. Not sure why double up makes it so cheeks.
Why are 80% of my games full of people that are afk from the start? I'm currently stage 6-2, it's a 1v1 at this point, other guy has only one stars and two active traits at their first breakpoint. Is something broken here?
Played a bunch already. Very fun set, going ti take ages to try everything out. I was dubious about how they would show how to unlock each champion, but they did it in a very straightforward way
same I was worried before I played my first game yesterday, as I always learn and try stuff while climp ranked at the same time. This set looks like motivate me longer then the last set where I dropped after plat because I had done every thing compered to the impossible finale traits what dont feel good for me playing 50 game and try hit 1 time the aoe finisher : D
This might be a dumb question, but how do you feed a unit to Tahm in mobile? I kept on dragging a unit towards Tahm but it doesn’t work
Hover unit to him for around 3 seconds. There should be animation where he opens his mouth. Sometimes it gets bugged so just hover it and wait then drop unit
Thanks, I’ll try that again when I play bilge again. When I tried to do it earlier, the unit kept on swapping with tahm
Yeah its bad that they didnt included the loading animation from desktop tft to it. Just hover it for like 2-3s and he should eat it.
You hold it over like the other guy said, but (from what I've noticed on mobile) Tahm doesn't have an animation for prepping his mouth like on PC. He just stands there, but will still eat units.
You can't consistently do it. I was able to get it to work once, every time after it would just swap the units (yes I'm aware of the once per round restriction).
Bilgewater is stupidly overtuned. There's no way you're going to be able to balance 3*ing 4 costs on a team that is focused entirely on snowballing.
The engine is busted for midgame tempo to consistently hit 9. Very few games matter on the 4 cost being three star.
Are you consistently losing to this? The reason I ask is because while you can get the units in a shop I'm pretty sure it's a limited pool/unit. In the scraps
Also the devs recognizes that in some ways it's easier to get 3* units of locked units, so it's already quite hard to get them to 3*.
You're either getting high rolled or he's outclassing you hard in the lobby
It's still way easier because you can roll to get 7 and buy 2 in the shop.
I've seen way more 3* 4 cost MFs and Fizzs than any other unit in the game and it's not even close.
I had one game where 5 people went bilgewater 3 of them top 4. None of them had problems getting their units with tempo, sure none of them 3 starred Nautilus but who cares.
You dont cap with bilgewater its a 5 cost soup with 3 bilgewater (tahm, mf, naut usually). The most op part is the free insane items you get specifically the burn and chill, and the hp regen one. Insane hp/ap stats with tahm. Geuinely busted comp it has no downsides other than the vertical sucking late game.
Bilgewater has won 8 of the 11 games I've now played. That's not the biggest sample size, but it absolutely ruined my placements trying to not run Bilgewater.
Vertical Bilgewater is rated as a C tier comp
While Bilgewater is used for the theorticial best board, its basically a piltover / legendary board (depending on variation you play) rather than a bilgewater board. You just use bilgewater for a strong midgame and to get bilgewater items for your MF and Nautilus
Okay. I'm gonna assume you mistyped, because it literally says S Tier on the link you provided.
Actually no, it doesnt. It says C tier on the tab for vertical bilgewater. The link i provided should take you to the C tier vertical bilgewater tab. The S tier comp version is the version that a legendary board that only uses MF, Nautilus, and Tahm Kench which i addressed with the rest of my comment.
The link for the S tier legendary comp
https://tftacademy.com/tierlist/comps/set-16-bilgewater-max-cap
The link for the C tier vertical bilgewater comp
https://tftacademy.com/tierlist/comps/set-16-bilgewater-copy
Notice that the links are different
I mean... you play the 7 vertical comp until level 9 where you transition to the S tier version.
Obviously you dont want to ignore pushing to level 9 and skip legendary units over 1-2 cost units...
The comp is mega strong.
OP is talking about vertical bilgewater without transitioning to a legendary board as being overpowered.
You also dont actually play vertical 7 bilgewater. You play 5 and toggle the other 2 units otherwise you get blasted while transitioning
He isnt though? He said bilgewater and you immediately assumed its 7 vertical he is talking about.
So many players these days just copy the S tier comps on guides, why would they copy the C tier version?
In the now deleted comment it references how he read the vertical bilgewater comp as being S tier when I linked it, not thinking that the legendary board version was the S tier. Would be pretty strange to double down on thinking vertical bilgewater is rated as S tier if he knew that it actually wasn't.
Plus, in the original comment, it mentions the comp buying out 3* 4 costs. Which is only something that happens when you are playing 7 bilgewater since dropping the units means you wont find Fizz or MF in the special shop anymore. Sure, they might have been talking about it as a full 7 bilgewater toggle while holding a bunch of legendary units, but are we really supposed to believe that in 8 out of 11 matches he faced off again people with full legendary boards + half a bench of bilgewater units just for toggling shop to roll for 3* 4 costs? How are people affording that?
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I'm telling you, they do not
they dont kid
Yeah the buff they gave to fizz and Mf before going live were huge. You can just stabilize with the silver shop and use gold only on levels for a good chunk of the game. By the time you get to 9 on like 4-3, you can just throw in 5 costs, really really good
How to see the changes from PBE to the live patch?
Mortdogs twitter
I know the numbers on Fizz for a 4 cost are actually lower than the most of the other 4 costs due to the nature of both Yordles and Bilgewater.
MF I haven’t had a look at but considering the Bilgewater trait I would assume she’s also not as strong 3* as other 4 costs would be as well?
Everytime I try bilgewater I am 6th place or worse. I cant see how anyone says this is OP. It makes no sense to me.
I see noxus steamrolling everyone with an ultra tanky sion and a stupidly high dps Atakhan
Senna most broken unit + Bilgewater almost always Top1 top 2 it's disgusting
Do freljord tower's buffs stack if I place them next to each other and the champions are standing in the overlapping zones?
Is Singed a real unit? 8 dmg per second 1 star, 18 dmg per second 2 star?? Sure he poisons the whole board but thats like... Nothing? I remember on PBE his dmg was far higher, what happened?
You build one burn item on him and it turns into a sun fire board Aug
Which is still dogshit. They way overnerfed him.
Anyone found any early hyper roll comps? I found one that appears to be working well, but have been looking for others
Bruiser sion With bard and aphelios in the backline
Amazing build btw, got a sion with about 12k life, just Kinda sad i lost to a freljord
Will give it a shot today
Bruiser
Has anyone else had a bug where in double up, when enemy Nidalee invaded your board, it is untargetable completely?
FYI - they said the fix for this is in the B-patch.
The game is in a really dogshit state right now.
This set fucking sucks as a casual player
Does anyone know what Team Up augments are? I’ve been keeping an eye out but haven’t seen any
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I think it might be referring to this augment? But I am not certain. Even though it is listed as "1", no "2" or "3" are listed in the gold/prismatic augments lists.
Ohhh, I saw that one a few times but more interesting augments caught my eye. Thanks!
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Yes, but its all late game and you wont be able to consistently get it.
Azir is 5 cost. Then to unlock the other Sheridan you need to win and lose while azir is on your board.
Anyone else having issues with the pass and lorefinder?
Why does the pilot hex for the T-hex appear in front of it, but the unit behind it is the one that jumps in?
Hate the unlock system it gives u much less freedom when playing besides that fun as always dont see ranked being hot this season tho
Thank you to the person who added a free 50 tokens right away. I managed to get my first 0.3% reward for free.
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Piltover's "Echo" will randomly stop recasting your other inventions at a certain point in the game, and never recast them again.
I legitimately got 4 yordles (2x Rumble, 2x Tristana) in a row with "Worth the wait"-augment what the hell
I'm getting so sick of this Bilgewater eco meta. This is lowkey one of the most OP thing ever released on TFT. Not only are the cost for the units incredibly cheap, but 15 serpent coins per round is still pretty high.
Patch 16.1 B was not enough to nerf bilge. Voids are to weak, they need more buffs. No way to win with them against bilge. We need def more hard bilge and MF nerfs.
does tockers trials count for the champion unlock thing? im never getting sylas in a ranked game lmao
Normals counts but not tockers if you are wanting the wins part. Just for collecting unlocks tockers works though
Just had the funnier game in this set so far.
Managed to get that Hat Stacking Arfifact on a 2 star Bel Veth with all the void champions and Briar, Bel Veth was just killing people left and right.
Managed to get 89 stacks on the hat stacking thingy
So this is the patch for the holidays etc? Man I really hoped they actually try to balance
This set is so bad. It's absolutely pointless having a frontline, all the high cost units just kill your backline through your frontline. It's completely redundant
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I just had a question about Atakhan. I'm trying to grind out the pass and one of the missions I have left is the field Atakhan with 4000 hp one. I just hit this board in tocker's while trying to do the mission and it still didn't meet the threshold.. I'm just wondering if anyone's actually done this or if it's harder in tocker's for whatever reason.
As someone who is admittedly bad at the game, this set feels anguishing to play. Genuinely might be the least fun I have ever had playing TFT.
took slammin and went void, didnt give me a single component made sure i had nothing on bench or on units on bench, void items also were on board.
Is dragons mail and lifting competition supposed to work against each other? If a bruiser unit is wearing the moguls mail it makes it impossible to trigger lifting competition until you remove the mail
Is there a new bug or working as intended ? Sett makes t tex not working multiple times in a game versus one player with sett in the jump ejects the pilot even though T rex isn’t dead ?
Is there any reason to play Ixtal 5? The 250 HP just seems kinda worthless in comparison to running other units. It feels like you either just run 3 or run all 7 if you get a lucky emblem.
2 hp per round is it. More used as a way to replenish hp if you were lose streaking due to a quest etc.
250 HP is only for double up I believe. It is 2 hp per round for single play.
Interesting... So the Ixtal units regain two player health for you when you have five? That's actually not bad for solo. Not sure why double up makes it so cheeks.
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but do the unlocked units need to be fielded to count as being used in a win, or can they be on your bench?
Pretty sure they have to be used in a battle
Fielded for sometimes multiple combats.
Why are 80% of my games full of people that are afk from the start? I'm currently stage 6-2, it's a 1v1 at this point, other guy has only one stars and two active traits at their first breakpoint. Is something broken here?
I'm honestly baffled that people thought this set would be any different from the past two at this point - game already feels solved
Riot pls im begging you bring back chibi Briar I need it !!!