... so for the people with amnesia about the New Sincerity and upvoting these posts unironically, what do you think distinguishes "Millennials" from Gen X? New Puritanism? Shittier humor and movies?
or it's just been one slow continuous slog of everyone downstream from the Boomers with only cosmetic differences?
I mean itās true, my millennial coworkers speak fondly of good times, and when theyāre talking about how bad it is now they say things like āit wasnāt supposed to be this way.ā Wheras me and all my buds know we were born to transcribe the world burning.
I remember the cultural movement āThe New Sincerelyā was really taking off when I was in college; partially as a backlash to the cynicism of the 90s. This was post 9-11 but before the 2008 economic crisis. I think we had a certain amount of optimism back then.
As an elder millennial i love when people try and do that shit. Pretty sure not liking the term millennial is the second requirement to be a millennial.
I've also had a gen Xer look me dead in the eye and tell me "You're not millennial! You're Gen Y". Facepalm
Its crazy that we are the supposedly the same generation. Im 95. We have almost nothing in common. You had early internet we had it when it was developed. You guys saw 9/11 and we were too young to understand. You guys lived through the 90s, we have vague memories of being a kindergartner. I guess we both had walkmans so thats something.
That said, the pace of change is much more rapid now, and the culture adapts. It's probably not helpful to think of generations in 18 year chunks anymore.
They are more or less 18. Most consider Millennials to be 1981 - 1999, Boomers 1946 - 1964, and X just a bit shorter in-between. Some have Millennials a bit shorter than that, and Alpha starting with 2010, so one could argue that it's trending more toward 15 years or so.
The definition of each generation has always shifted, even by those who have been widely credited in defining the generation. Despite Gen X generally being defined as 1965-1980 these days:
See this line from the official synopsis from an earlier edition of Douglas Copelandās book Generation X:
Cursed to be able to understand brain rot language while still being too old and uncool to have fun using it. Trying so hard not to be like every other generation and just let the kids do their thing. Still having some lucky few that you know are able to buy homes while statistically you are never actually going to be able to have one. Life is great. Right there with you. Once in 100 year events happening every 6 months since late childhood or early adolescence. Too old to feel actually connected to and a part of the youth and also being too young to get respect or status from older generations. World collapsing around us as we start adulthood. Fun times.
It referencing the game series the Oregon Trail, dysentery is the most common cause of death you can experience in the game. First game released in ā85.
"Millennial optimism"
The undying hope that maybe you'll be t-boned on the way to work and whisked from this mortal coil in an act of benevolent, vehicular mercy.
AKA: The best case scenario
... so for the people with amnesia about the New Sincerity and upvoting these posts unironically, what do you think distinguishes "Millennials" from Gen X? New Puritanism? Shittier humor and movies?
or it's just been one slow continuous slog of everyone downstream from the Boomers with only cosmetic differences?
I gotta be honest I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know what New Sincerity or New Puritanism is
You sound like you got t boned in traffic
What a sentence š
I was actually having this exact internal monolouge as I was leaving work and walking to my car today.
Is it supposed to be ironic?
Yeah wtf
I mean itās true, my millennial coworkers speak fondly of good times, and when theyāre talking about how bad it is now they say things like āit wasnāt supposed to be this way.ā Wheras me and all my buds know we were born to transcribe the world burning.
I remember the cultural movement āThe New Sincerelyā was really taking off when I was in college; partially as a backlash to the cynicism of the 90s. This was post 9-11 but before the 2008 economic crisis. I think we had a certain amount of optimism back then.
Ah, so itās a really dated thing from when the oldest Millennials were like 15 years old.
To think, all we would have had to do to maintain that would be [USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST]
āCharmā of Gen - X cynacism.
Yeah cuz we all thought downer uncle Gary was just so charming.
We were optimistic for a brief moment in the 2000s. Whoever made this shirt must have not checked in with us since then.
I was born in '83 and I'll die before I'm recognized as having any part to do with gen X
Same! Weāre millennials, not some made up generation to try and distance from the ālazy millennialsā stereotype. I am a lazy millennial.
As an elder millennial i love when people try and do that shit. Pretty sure not liking the term millennial is the second requirement to be a millennial.
I've also had a gen Xer look me dead in the eye and tell me "You're not millennial! You're Gen Y". Facepalm
Its crazy that we are the supposedly the same generation. Im 95. We have almost nothing in common. You had early internet we had it when it was developed. You guys saw 9/11 and we were too young to understand. You guys lived through the 90s, we have vague memories of being a kindergartner. I guess we both had walkmans so thats something.
Generations are 18 years, it's just how it goes.
That said, the pace of change is much more rapid now, and the culture adapts. It's probably not helpful to think of generations in 18 year chunks anymore.
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They are more or less 18. Most consider Millennials to be 1981 - 1999, Boomers 1946 - 1964, and X just a bit shorter in-between. Some have Millennials a bit shorter than that, and Alpha starting with 2010, so one could argue that it's trending more toward 15 years or so.
Millennials have always been 1981-1996.
Not true. Every generation has some variance in definition. I've seen Millennials defined anywhere between 1980 and 2000. Here is one source that uses 1981 - 1999: https://www.prb.org/articles/are-millennials-the-unluckiest-generation/
Some definitions have them starting in 1982, but I've not seen later than that. Some do have them ending in 1996, or 97/98.
The definition of each generation has always shifted, even by those who have been widely credited in defining the generation. Despite Gen X generally being defined as 1965-1980 these days:
See this line from the official synopsis from an earlier edition of Douglas Copelandās book Generation X:
āGeneration X is Douglas Coupland's acclaimed salute to the generation born in the late 1950s and 1960sā (1992) https://www.google.com/books/edition/_/eJT5ngEACAAJ?hl=en&gl=US&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi5qKXXn8uMAxX3D1kFHV8BB0AQ7_IDegQIBBBT
And this updated line:
āGeneration X is Douglas Coupland's classic novel about the generation born from 1960 to 1978 āa generation known until then simply as twenty somethings.ā https://www.amazon.com/Generation-X-Tales-Accelerated-Culture/dp/031205436X
Iām late Gen X, and I remember being told different things often over 90s and early 2000s. These things shift.
Hereās an old Reddit post that Iām mostly including because the US Social Security Administration used to define Gen X as 1964-1979, but also because it shows more of the variation in definitions: https://www.reddit.com/r/generationology/comments/kmbfgk/generational_ranges_from_wikipedia_sources/
1979 definitely lines up with my memories from 2005, when I was dating someone born in 1979 ā I was self-conscious about it!
ETA: fixed typo that said ā1985ā instead of ā1965ā
Man I swear generational identity is some of the most forced and manufactured shit ever
Oh fuck off
I like to say iām a zillennial - the worst of both generations
Cursed to be able to understand brain rot language while still being too old and uncool to have fun using it. Trying so hard not to be like every other generation and just let the kids do their thing. Still having some lucky few that you know are able to buy homes while statistically you are never actually going to be able to have one. Life is great. Right there with you. Once in 100 year events happening every 6 months since late childhood or early adolescence. Too old to feel actually connected to and a part of the youth and also being too young to get respect or status from older generations. World collapsing around us as we start adulthood. Fun times.
Okay Iād wear it. I wouldnāt buy it, but Iād wear it.
I died of exposure
I was born in that time frame but optimism? Nah
Sorry, I'm born 1980 and I'm going to stay Gen X.
I was born in 78 and would rock it.
Did you ride any dinosaurs?
Rock as in stone? Like in the Bible?
I don't get the dysentery part?
It referencing the game series the Oregon Trail, dysentery is the most common cause of death you can experience in the game. First game released in ā85.
Oh. Never played it.
Thanks!
Do it. Itās a school game but itās pretty funny
Beautiful
By the time people born in 77 played Oregon Trail, it was a retro game.
I played it in elementary school and Im gen Z
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The elder millennials that cried over the death of some Glee cast member?