As everyone is well aware, Alex is on his mental health break right now, so I (Eliana) will be addressing what has been posted today. Last year, Alex’s dad passed away, and he became very angry and grieving. The Google Document that you have seen came from a document that was posted last year from a toxic relationship that occurred. When it was posted, it was intended for a select group of people, and once they were aware of it, the document was removed. The two people involved (Alex and the other person) have since tried to put it behind them for brighter futures. Over the past year, he’s been to therapy and apologized to everyone that he hurt. What I would like to address is that because this document was posted in the past and then deleted, I personally feel that it was disrespectful of the person who posted today to bring it up again. This document was not meant to be spread around online, and Alex has been done so much self improvement. Last year was rough, and he is a person like all of you that makes mistakes. He is capable of change, and has changed since, so understand that as a viewer who is experiencing a parasocial relationship, you can only be privy to so much.
EDIT: I am not trying to tell people how to feel, I just wanted to explain the situation and explain what has happened. I completely understand feeling upset and shocked because this is all new to everyone who has read the document. I am not excusing Alex's actions. I said he made mistakes not to downplay the situation but to capture everything that occurred broadly. As someone who was involved when everything originally occurred and was posted, it is also hard for me to revisit, so please understand that I am trying my best to bring light to everything while also trying to explain the best that I can.
I understand and, if this is true, I hope that he is getting the help he needs. However, I think it is completely understandable to be upset or disappointed. Personally, I am not ok with the fact that abuse (whether verbal, physical, etc.) occurred, no matter the circumstances that led to that behavior. However, that remains to be my personal opinion and I accept that not everyone shares that sentiment. I hope both parties will move past this entirely
There is never, ever ever ever, any excuse to behave in an abuse way, there may be explanations but we can’t excuse abuse
Which I agree. I don’t accept what he’s done at all, and I don’t think that his circumstances excuse him
Same
God, what a sorry state of affairs. And how does someone in Alex's position return from this? His dirty laundry has been aired to his audience. People are rightly stirred up about it. Even if he has sought help and his victim has forgiven him, this is going to hang over everything he makes public like a dark cloud. Does he come out and make an apology? No matter how genuine that may be, people are going to doubt and nitpick at it. Does he move forward without publicly acknowledging it? That's almost worse, because it makes him look indifferent to the wrongs he's committed.
I wish the victim in this whole ordeal nothing but the best- you didn't deserve what happened. I wish Alex a speedy recovery, that he might find himself in a healthier mental state. I bid everyone who cannot continue supporting Alex after this revelation a fond farewell- you are well within your rights to cut off from this after seeing what's happened.
As for me, if it matters at all? I'll stick around. I like to believe people are better than their worst moments and are capable of change and redemption.
Sorry for the essay. Just needed to get all of this out.
I've been lurking in this subreddit for a good while, and only really got into Monument Mythos because of people over on r/DeathBattleMatchups advocating for stuff like Doctor Manhattan vs. The Last Son/Richard Nixon to become real episodes of that show; but..
Look, there's no sugar coating it. Alex ROYALLY fucked up, and while it sounds like he's really trying to change for the better, and it also sounds like the victim might have forgiven his actions, I don't think simply saying sorry or something like that will make me forgive him. This is serious shit; and it's far more than just a simple mistake. Needless to say I'm incredibly disappointed in him.
I hope the victim is okay now, especially since this document wasn't meant to go public, and she's in a good state of mind. I also respect Alex for wanting to change and move forward, but I've lost much of my respect for him and I don't plan on checking out anything he makes anytime soon. (assuming he even makes more)
The chicanery is spreading too far
alex casanas looks just like walter white jr
On a series note, I’m gonna unsub from the channel until I see an apology, as well as stay out of the sub, and not buy the merchandise I was planning on buying.
I’m talking mirage in the ocean
Im talking milky wilky
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yeah, this, i dont think i can watch him for a while, i loved this series music and i listen to it all the time, maybe i'll do that on other channels but i can't support him at the moment. maybe when he's made a "full recovery" (or as fully recovered as you can get with mental health) even then it'll hang over him for me for years
I was able to read the doc before it was deleted,
Using grief and mental health, regardless of the situation, is no excuse.
I can understand that perhaps the girl who first shared the document in the more private context of the discord didn't want the situation to comes to this. To that, I can only say that I am very sorry for her and that this event may force her to recall things she didn't deserve to happen to her. But let's not twist the facts here. What Alex did wasn't simply a "mistake". We are talking about emotional abuse AND sexual assault here. The document is very clear about the accusations and honestly your framing feels very deceptive, especially since the post is now deleted and people cannot check out the actual content of the doc. If I have to be honest this situation makes me quite sick, and I have lost much respect I had for Alex as a creator. Trauma and mental illness is no excuse for what happened.
I recognize that I am a tad bit late to this, but I wanted to add my two cents in saying I wholeheartedly agree with you. I am utterly appalled by those who are downplaying the events as being simple mistakes or momentary lapses in judgment as opposed to multiple acts of various forms of abuse performed by a very clearly ill individual. Bereavement is not a justifiable excuse for what Kansas has done and I am beyond horrified that some of the fanbase is taking all of this so casually. Separating art from artist is impossible given how entrenched this person is in his work; the motherfucker made himself a character in the damn series.
I think it's more along the lines of - if someone has apologised and is actively trying to seek help, how does continuing to comment on these posts talking about the shittiness of his actions actually progress anything?
It seems you’re implying the post was made by someone who isn’t the victim, and that the victim has since forgiven Alex. Is this correct? I understand that we are looking at one piece of this whole, unfortunate, and private situation but it’s pretty dire stuff
The poster had previously confirmed that she wasn't the victim in the comment section.
Thank you
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I agree. Things he done are still "strange" at very least.
What do you think he should do then? What’s the appropriate course of action?
I am not sweeping it under the rug, I am saying that it was a document that was meant to be posted for certain friends to see and acknowledge. The document has been deleted by the original party. Abuse is not something that can be excused, but he’s I am addressing the fact that he has been to therapy and made active change to try and remedy the hurt he caused.
Elania, I don't envy you at all, having to respond to this whole debacle. The mob is so ruthless. I think if someone did dumb nasty shit as a kid, then apologises and tries to make amends, it's actually kind of fucked up that people who don't have anything to do with the situation want to continue to hold an addressed issue above someone's head when they're actively trying to change. Best wishes.
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Thanks for the abusive tone. What is your suggested recourse for this situation?
Stop supporting Alex and consuming his content, of course. Plain and simple. At least until it's proven, with 100% certainty, that he's changed for good. "Apologizing" and "trying to change" doesn't mean jack shit. Especially for the victim.
The victim who didn’t want this stuff leaked in the first place?
Yes.
Ok!
If it's true that Alex is seeking mental help and has made/is still making amends, then all I can say is that I am extremely disappointed. I would like to believe that it is true, but I've seen enough fake apologies in my life to know not to firmly plant my flag on a hill like that. All I can say for certain is that I hope for nothing but the best for the victim going forward.
you can't blame people for not wanting to support him anymore, that document was fucked up.
good for him if he really changed, but i prefer supporting creators who don't manipulate and abuse their partners. regardless i'm glad the document got released again because i was planning on buying the crescent king plushie and i definitely would've regretted giving him my money now🤷🏻♀️
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Can someone give a tldr of this situation? Im completely out of the loop
Someone posted some abuse allegations made towards Alex that Alex has acknowledged and confirmed. It seems the victim originally created the document to be shared among a smaller friend group and did not want it to be posted publicly, and the post sharing the document was not made by the victim. This post seems to imply additionally the victim has forgiven Alex but the whole situation beyond the fact that the abuse occurred is unclear
A couple of hours ago a google doc was posted here. The content of the doc was previously posted on the private discord by a girl who claimed to have been victim of emotional and sexual abuse by Alex. The doc itself contained a summary of events and various screenshots of private conversations between her and Alex as supporting evidence. In the comments on the reddit post, various former discord mods confirmed the authenticity of the doc and that Alex himself admitted it before having everything removed. This post is safely to say the nail in the coffin confirming that the doc was telling the truth.
Dammit, it’s like a trend, a genuinely good content creator gets outed for being a creep, sure he’s seeking help which is a step in the right direction, and the victim MIGHT have forgiven him, but it’s still a messed up thing to do.
If you go to the trinity desk project, I reposted it there if you wanna see it
Trinity desk project?
There’s a sub reddit for the trinity desk, I posted the original google doc files there if you wanna check it out, that or the mods censored it
I know this is pretty late, but, do you still have the document?, and if so, would you be so kind to share?, i became aware of the controversy today and would like to see with my own eyes what happened.
they didnt want it shared
I'm late, but your comment highlights the two problems I have.
It can't be justified, at all. It's good that Alex wants to improve and I believe firmly in rehabilitation, but he never should've been that person to begin with, ever. He didn't fall down a drug hole and ruin his own life, he knowingly violated another person's, and it's really not hard to respect someone else's consent.
This happens so fucking much nowadays that I'm just tired of it at this point. I'm not tired of victims speaking up and rightfully outing their abusers, I'm tired that so many content creators end up being these types of people. I can't just move on because I don't have the patience for it anymore, if that makes any sense. People should know better by now.
alex abused and manipulated his ex gf so she compiled a document with evidence/screenshots. the document was shared around the discord last year but swept under the rug by mods/alex, and now someone has posted it again to give the situation more attention. the mods deleted the post with the document because of course they did, but there was a lot of fucked stuff in there including things bordering on sexual assault
What is it with this trend of a genuinely talented and cool content creator getting outed for a creep? For me it started with Mini Ladd and now it’s rapidly going down hill for other content creators I like
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I think this whole series is done now. Gotta say I'm disappointed, I was incredibly interested in everything that was posted and I loved coming on here. But, even if he's getting help, I can't support anything Alex did. What he did was fucking disgusting, and even with him getting help, everything is going to be awkward and hard to get past. Guess it's time to find something else
this situation still makes me uneasy
Any reason why it would be posted again? And is there any proof to back up the claims you make?
i dont care about any of this and none of this excuses what he did
Honestly, I'll need to take a while to really sort my thoughts out and see if I will continue watching his work, but all I really have to say now is: Alex should absolutely be held accountable and I really hope he changes for the better. Wish the best for both parties involved moving forward.
Always a shame to see something like this happen. I'll just have to wait and see how this mess unfolds to make a more complete opinion though.
It's a good thing this leaked, even if he apologized for it all, it's still massively fucked up. Honestly don't know if I can continue to support him and the series.
First eventide media center, and now Alex on the chopping block. Content creators are human and make mistakes just like us; we shouldn’t idolize them, nor do I think their personal lives are any of our business. Never meet your heroes, kids
what happened to eventide?
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oh I understand. Sad to see that happen...
Holy shit. Literally yesterday I saw that channel perfectly fine. Now it's just... Gone?
Grief can make you a monster.
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what the fuck happened here?
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no i read it a while back, like a week after the comment was posted
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understood, will be unsubscribed until further notice
Same. I don't think there'd going to be anything else honestly
Why is it that every time that when I find something interesting and actually enjoyable to watch, it always devolves into controversy?
And from what I can tell, the evidence has been removed, making it even harder to figure out who is in the wrong for people who did not see the document, including me.
I hope the victim is alright and doing fine, and that Alex is getting the help they need.
And as someone who lost someone close to them, I understand that feeling of anger and sadness.
Yet, on the topic of the evidence being removed, its pretty much making people only go off what others say, not the actual evidence itself.
"Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past." ~ George Orwell, 1984
https://www.reddit.com/r/TrinityDeskProject/comments/za3hql/im_sorry_you_all_have_to_find_out_like_this_but/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
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...Since the first time I set my eyes on this series, I didn't think it would be that big of a thing. generic analog horror with oh-so-scary faces... nothing new.Yet I watched the series and was blown away, by so many elements that pulled it away from common tropes.the world-building, the mystery, the symbolism, and the monsters... It utterly mystified me.First time I wanted to get merch (poster) once it was in stock again, to show my support in any way, shape, or form.You could say I look up to him a bit, his mind, and his ability to analyze and connect everything together had me in awe. Which makes this all the more painful.I KNOW he's getting help and I KNOW he's trying his best, but I'm just lost and confused.
I don't know whether to hate him, or forgive him.
First time I felt these conflicting emotions.
...I remember a quote from the nixonverse that has spun and danced inside my head, unwelcomed.
"Grief can make you a monster."
EDIT - After reviewing the doc, I have come to a conclusion regarding my feelings.
I feel empty.
i hope the person who leaked the document will be seeing the consequences of their actions. strangers should not be privy to the inner workings of relationships from other strangers.
, your the type of person to let the trolly run over the people and think its not your fault because you didint intervene
what a nice thing to say to a complete stranger
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why are you talking to me as if i have any say on this situation or the visiblity of it. and dude if those are the crimes then this needs to be taken to the police. do i look like the cops? the idea that some youtube videos and their standing or lack thereof can 'account' for sexual assault and abuse is really useless
We can, however, opt to not financially support someone who has a preponderance of evidence showing that he is an awful person.
I am not saying the invasion of privacy is justified or that even any of this should have been publicized, just that it only takes one person to think the above line and then nobody has any power to put the jack back in the box.
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All i'm going to say is i'm sick and fucking tired of good content creators being exposed for something and i have decided that from here on i will just not give a fuck about this kind of thing except for grooming and shit like that
if anyone wants to argue with this fuck off i dont care about any controversies anymore
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QICWtpyo2-5Bw-UKg6zPNi1USSFiTFRFqvA33NfJEmY/edit
Oh but he has S/A her.
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Its sad that's all you can think of :) Very creative!!
stfu you single celled organism
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May I ask his (approximate) age?
Alex was 18 when the relationship occurred
That would mean the incident happened in 2020
Thank you.
I have no words, I just learned of the situation and I almost cried. This is utterly confusing, what Alex did even it wasn't as detailed in the doc itself, was still appalling and shocking. As a long-term fan, this shakes my very core and I have one thing to say.
No matter how high, things always fall low.
As much as I truly wish to forgive Alex, I cannot. I was not directly involved but to learn that someone who I held to such a high standard (which I really shouldn't do for anyone) would do such a thing didn't fully shock me as I knew a small piece of the story but when learning all of it I feel as if some stuff was undermined, but Alex has apparently fixed stuff up privately so I hope that that's true. It'll probably take time for the respect I once had for him to be regained, and it may never be, whether it be this or my lack of caring for his content anymore. I hope stuffs going well for him regardless as it would be horrible to wish wrong upon someone who has probably fixed the situation.
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Ok, so if you do a bad thing, there is no going back? No hope of becoming a better person?
people are still allowed to be weary of people that have done things like that, whether they say theyve changed or not
You raise a great point, and I agree.
To most people here, apparently.
Honestly, I think people are just biased because their favorite creator did these things.
This is a major fuck up, a very disgusting thing to do. Bad thing is putting it lightly.
¿What document?
The one that was posted today.
Scroll down a little and you'll see it
Edit: I can't find it now for some reason
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QICWtpyo2-5Bw-UKg6zPNi1USSFiTFRFqvA33NfJEmY/edit
Its been 5 years I dont need to know anymore
Why god
Idk if im alone in this but I remember finding this document somehow months ago, roughly around the time the nixonverse started. I didnt know what to make of it at the time because I hadn't heard anything else like this about alex. The person in question did not want this document to be released to the public (which in my opinion is totally valid and is explicitly stated on the doc if I recall correctly) and now they're going to be in another shitstorm regarding this situation they were trying to put behind them. So shame on Alex for doing these terrible things, and shame on whoever released this, because you've only likely made things worse for every single party involved in this situation.
Thank you for this statement. It was what I hoped to hear. I don't condone nor excuse what Alex did in the past, but I am genuinely glad to hear he is taking steps towards self-improvement and toward caring for his mental health. And that he and the victim came to an understanding.
I hope this isn’t the end of his stuff seeing how his patreon stuff is gone yes the stuff he did was extremely shitty no denying that but he is working on fixing it as long as he’s not doing the bullshit he deserves to be able to move past it
“Grief made him a monster”
I just got into this series a week ago. Wow. This is disappointing.
Thank god. I'd been a bit worried. What's bad is that everything is spreading around now... hope everything blows down and gets better for Alex.
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not really sure what to think. i'll always love this series, and art should be separate from its artist, but it's gonna be hard for me to detach his work from this now. plus, the fact that it was posted a while ago and deleted? i get that you want to make this clear in your close circle of friends first, but this is something that should be public knowledge.
if you're truly trying to move on from something like this, you don't keep it hidden and let other people speak for you. the fact that he hasn't addressed any of this himself is just a major red flag for me
Was working on fan content earlier, so I saw nothing.
Alex Cassanas Conundrum?
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Or they don’t want to be contributing to an abuser’s income anymore.
Shut up Emily
Oh ouch, however will I recover from that sick burn?
Humanity can be very cruel sometimes
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Deleting it makes the situation look worse, yknow? Like there’s something to hide
True, kinda like sweeping it under the rug
Thinking of reposting it
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Oh ok
Youre literally a monster Alex. No one should ever forgive you for this, youre lucky your victim had a kind enough heart too. But I sure dont!
Grief made you a disgusting monster.
Man I feel bad for Mister Manticore Also will we see Eunice in the next episode?
Special special special tree Lauren Nathan and Quinnnnnn
What's the last episode's name is? I wanna know so bad. Can we see sneak peak for the last episode of season 3?
I think people can be terrible in their personal life but do good things in their professional life - a pretty consistent story with few exceptions in literature, art and film.
It makes me morally confused whether I should support his work, given that the money would go to his personal life, but would also promote his good content. I don't know how extensive Alex's grief was but it must have been insane for him to continuously manipulate someone in every possible way over the span of months in order to cope.
Yeah, your emotions can influence your actions and your actions can be a slippery slope even when your emotions aren't at play, you've dug a big hole, I get that.
But to think that this was happening while; studying, working and creating the Monument Mythos maybe shows that Alex isn't as great of a person as this post makes him out to be, suggesting he also manipulated other women just to cope with his poor mental health, and others directly involved in seeing Monument Mythos in its early stages are implicated as not; intervening in this situation, seeing Alex's behavior as wrong or doing anything to pull up Alex on what he was doing - this is just enabling behavior from the people close to Alex, especially given a decent chunk of what was said was visible to more than a few of them over the span of months.
With that context, it's pretty difficult to see Alex's works from that time as being made by a good person or being supported by ethical onlookers that knew him irl.
Not asking for that to be reflected in the content, or for him to engage with his fanbase, but it is simply an issue I have with supporting the work that he made while he was being toxic. No problems with anything made after the fact.