How do you have so many? Or these people who make an album in a few days? It takes me a little while to get a song that I deem worthy to make an album in a few days...ya that ain't happening for me. Do you just stay up all night? Lol
most often these people just ise AI to write the songs and create them, so its just a click get songs flood the youtube channels and Spotify with them, they arent interested in writing great songs. Or they just cioy and paste from chatgpt etc right into SUNO then hit create.
also ive seen people say they have 5k songs but they mean 5k creations, to get maybe 100 good songs.
they arent writing the lyrics themselves, or they do like edm/ techno etc, where you only need like 4 lines to make an entire song,
You are far too generous in stating that they have 100 good songs. I'd argue they probably have one song good enough for elevator play. Assuming the building is no more than three stories.
Yeah, Chat GPT (especially GPT-4) is great at lyrics in any poetic meter and language. Here is a dance/march in Ukrainian, Polish, and Russian in trochaic tetrameter: https://suno.com/s/o60E3Yyq0F0Kv2xg Oh and note the chant of "присядка!" means squat--today is leg day so I had GPT write a song about squats lol
They are the reason AI haters call it slop. Those "creators" are churning out 100's of songs per month just to clutter up playlists in hopes some of those songs will hit big and make some money. They aren't putting any effort into it at all by just letting the AI write the lyrics and entire song for them.
The workflow goes something like this...
Song 1 prompt: "Write a catchy pop song about love"
Song 2 prompt: "Write a catchy pop song about relationships"
Song 3 prompt: "Write a catchy pop song about spaghetti"
I do put effort and I don't want slop out there. If I'm going to make AI music, with my lyrics, I want to make good quality ai music. I hate that it's just clogging up streaming services or whatever with "slop" if you are going to do and put it out there put some damn effort into it.
Exactly. Slop is slop, AI or anything else. When you do the same generic stuff as everyone else, put minimal effort into it, and clog up the space with it, it really has nothing to offer. You gotta put time and effort into it, make it yours. Cheers.
I was starting to feel guilty for being relatively new and having ~1.5k songs! But those are mostly 20 songs in MANY iterations as I explore how to get what I want and discover what I didnt know I wanted. Im sitting on some "bangers" bc im afraid of getting labeled/shunned for producing slop.
yeah me too...generations.....but I'll sometimes generate a couple hundred to get one song that I call a finished base song that I can leave be or add flair to. I'm paring that down as I learn the tools better, but still...
This is something someone commented the other day that stuck with me. Once “those people” realize it’s not a get rich quick scheme the people making real shit will have their chance to shine. If the models don’t get gutted, that is…
I am curious of this too… It’s been almost 2 years for me and I have less than 300 songs. Sure I have 10k plus tracks I have made trying to make those songs but I definitely do not have thousands and thousands of songs…
You can't create great songs that easily all the time. If you have a great prompt and can write genuinely great lyrics that understand the music you can churn out good ones quick. But it's useless to make so many it devalues your brand as an artist. It's just like money too much in everyone's hand and we are all poor as sxxx.
This is true about songs with lyrics but I make a lot a lot a lot of instrumental djent in odd time signature by recording riffs then throwing them in. I can blow through credits sometimes when doing that and end up with dozens of unique songs, but most are a sort of one and done. Or I’ll add lyrics to them eventually. Lots of overlapping lineage in my library.
Yh but without lyrics instrumentals are rarely worth listening more than once. So it's a great Instrumental. So what? That's easy. It's the lyrics that will trip you up. And the hardest step.
I have thousands of songs accumulated but most of them are no good and I just forget about them and don't share them. I only save the really, really good ones for a 10 - 12 song album every few months.
As someone who makes ai music (with effort) I hate this. This is why many say it's slop, and they're right. It's a waste of credits and money for one, and two it's obnoxious sifting through it all.
I dont know how they do it. It took a year plus for me to get the sounds I wanted from my first song. From rewriting lyrics, to trying different styles, it was a long process. I am four months into work on my second song. The thousand song crowd sounds like they’re using AI to generate lyrics as well and just sending it.
I don't have thousands of songs...I have about 50. And yes, yes I do sometimes stay up all night. I have a medical condition that borks with my sleep anyway and as long as I am up.......might as well do something that is productive and keeps my mind distracted from the fact that I can't sleep. So I do housework, or I organize stuff, or I work on lyrics, remix stuff I have, or make songs....I have time (and the problems that go with) to cogitate and work on songs. Others have more intense demands on their time than I do.
The problem with the spamming is the places that they spam and the lack of processes in place to stop them spamming.
I blame the streaming service providers, not the providers of the technology that allows Gen Ai.
I have 67 copyrighted (1982) original songs that I’ve run through Suno. There’s no way I would tarnish my reputation with AI written and composed songs. All I needed from Suno was a better version of my voice. And taking only a week to create a song is an insult to those who spend over a year on a really good album.
These jerks that are spamming the music industry, thinking they’re the next big artist are fools.
Your situation sounds similar to the group Anderson Hunt. They wrote & recorded songs in the 70s/80s (with US Copyright). They never released their music until now. They made a bit of history by including those older recordings with new AI assisted tracks of their old lyrics and some new ones too.
Source: I mastered their songs here in Nashville. I also co-wrote one track.
Proof of source: The album is called AT RANDOM Volume 1 by Anderson Hunt. Run their track "Weak in My Knees - 1980 Original" thru the AI song checker on SubmitHub. Their other tracks (like A Different World) should show a mix of AI/Human. Robert L Hunt writes the lyrics and Jon F Anderson plays guitar. Most of the songs are listed in the US Copyright Office search under Robert L Hunt. Their website: ah-music.com
Feel free to use this example to counter all the negative people who try to keep you from experiencing the type of music you love!
I have thousands only because I make relaxing, melodic music for my YouTube channel. These are instrumentals and I generate between 15 and 20 for each video. I also write all of my own lyrics for the other tracks I create. I've generated probably 1k for that purpose, but I am also very picky with the mix, how the lyrics flow, and what Is worthy of an actual final master and release. About 15 out of 1,000. Lot's of curating, changing lyrics, sound cues, structure, weirdness/style influence ratio. If you don't want shitty songs, you have to work to find the one's that aren't.
If you know what your doing it doesn't take that long to write lyrics, Keith Richards said he wrote Paint It black in 20 minutes. Lot of lyricist will write good lyrics in 1 to 2 hours and then over time improve those lyrics. Someone that is putting an album out every day or 2 days is not putting much effort into, they are likely letting AI write the lyrics and the music, maybe choosing the best between hundreds of AI created lyrics and audio. I have been writing lyrics for years and only this year started using SUNO to create fully formed songs, and I spend all my free time writing lyrics and using SUNO for audio, and I will write anywhere from 3 to 10 songs a week, usually closer to 5 to 6 a week. I was on vacation 2 weeks ago and wrote 17 songs that week, that was literally spending the entire week writing songs, which burned me out and I only wrote like 3 songs the next week.
I do a lot of experimental genre blending, but I'd say I have between 150-200 released on my Suno channel...a mix of tracks with lyrics and video game inspired instrumentals (what I've been doing as of late as some prompting practice)
Got started on a video game instrumental mega album which might be the only one I do, with 16 tracks so far. I can't or won't even think of mass producing tracks like that, to be honest.
I think it's important to differentiate between "thousands of songs" and "thousands of great songs". No one has thousands of great songs. They might *think* they do, but they really don't. They're a victim of their own hubris. I think I'm great at using Suno to make hit songs, but I understand innately that what I think is "amazing" is likely not nearly as amazing as I think. But most people aren't capable of distinguishing "good" from "mediocre", let alone amazing, and they're also prone to over-estimating their own abilities.
It takes me about a thousand to two thousand credits to get a song to the point where I think it qualifies as "album ready" from a base perspective. So that means I'm generating around two thousand to four thousand songs in total, before I get to a version I like. I'm tweaking along the way, editing lyrics, changing the music prompt, until everything seems to fall into place. That process generally takes a few hours to a few days, depending less on Suno and more on my ability or inability to steer it in the direction I want. I will often keep two versions of a song, to do A/B testing with my music advisory group - I would be happy with either one going on the album - the idea is to take my own ego out of it and let others share opinions about my music anonymously, without my input swaying them.
Speaking of minimizing what I keep, because I'm not interested in having a library with 340,000 songs I'll never listen to again, I bookmark the songs I think are "potential album tracks", click like on tracks I think are solid but not usable on an album (so the algorithm learns from what worked for me) and everything else gets deleted. At this point, I've probably got several thousand songs in my library, but maybe only a few dozen that are "quality" songs that meet all my criteria, and that's after a more than a year on Suno.
The unfortunate reality is that even though Suno's AI is superb at generating music, 99.8% of people aren't creating "hit songs" with it - they're not even creating "great songs" - they're just convincing themselves they are. Even songs with thousands of likes on the Suno platform aren't likely to do any real numbers in charts or on the radio.
If you're not a superb writer with an understanding of cadence and syncopation and other music theory, chances are strong that you're barely scratching the surface of what Suno is capable of, and those "thousands and thousands of great songs" are really just "thousands and thousands of songs".
Yes I hate that. I have no problem listening to ai music but I want great ai music that makes me feel something and I've heard only a handful of songs that did that and the rest were generic snoozefest.
I have never released a Suno-influenced or Suno-cover of one of my songs but I’m very tempted. It takes me a long time to write, record, perform and produce my songs in Logic. I am blown away with what Suno does to one of my songs but hesitant to release anything. Any advice? Is it really worth it? Can I make any money off of it? I can see where some could spam the internet with it and I wish that wasn’t the case. If you’re interested in anything I’ve done I have some private SoundCloud links where I have an original and a Suno cover. Message me and I’ll send you a link. I’d appreciate the feedback.
I have a few thousand songs generated. Though many of them are usable, I only have roughly 70 distinct sets of lyrics (And then variations within that because I rework a lot of them when they aren’t turning out how I want them to) but I would only release 1 version of each song, so many are just going to be unreleased. A lot of them were sort of written prior to discovering Suno, because I liked to write poetry (that would then sit in the notes app on my phone never to be seen again… or so I thought!) I had material going back to 2018, though much of it was lost when my phone broke a while back since I have never been able to get back into that iCloud account. Some of it was in Google Keep though. I still have material I haven’t got around to because I have to be in the mood to write, and not all are great.
When I finish my lyric writing process, I typically hit the generate button about 5 times before I even listen to one of them because sometimes certain lyrics just work so perfectly for a specific genre and sometimes I have a hard time narrowing down which genre that will be. Since I tend to gravitate more towards some genres than others I try to generate a few options before I listen. I also like to change the gender for some songs and I don’t always remember to tweak the lyrics to fit a vocalist of the opposite gender and even though it doesn’t really matter, it bothers me if I have a woman singing lyrics that just don’t match for a female artist, but it would if I changed a few words around. In those cases, I regenerate again afterwards because I like to give it a fair chance. Also I have paid for Suno for almost an entire year at this point, and I try to use all of my credits each month just to not waste my money.
I have 30k generated songs, but also 700 uploads… because I’ll record a riff, or take one of the 100+ compositions I’ve put together in the last 7 years, generate a bunch of variations, maybe use the instrumental to cover it into something with lyrics… so I have like 2k-3k unique “songs” and a whole bunch of variations. One of my songs, over the last year, I’ve covered or remastered into 400 versions since it’s sorta my model checking benchmark…
I’ve been using Suno for 2 years so that’s a part of it. But people see “30k songs” and they assume I’m a slop-master, it’s tiring.
Sometimes. Especially if there's a theme or concept that has inspired me.
Also, different levels of execution for some people.
If you create your own vocals, craft your own melodies the us Suno as a production app, it'll take a little longer than someone who just uses a Persona and lyrics to create songs
I don't get it either. I'd take a stab and say that they're either instrumentals or they are simply not writing their own lyrics, I've been putting album together that I'm putting real concerted effort into and have been doing it since July, and I have 3 completed songs. Covering, tweaking, editing, then going back and changing sections because some vocal delivery or style doesn't work, one song in particular still isn't quite right and I've been at it for 4 months. 1000's and sometimes 10000+ is just grossly self-indulgent, I only have 3000 songs I've liked in total on Spotify. If they are actively listening to them all and it brings them joy, then that is great for them and I have no qualms, but by and large I'd bet that isn't the case.
Haha, that's warranted. Look if I had the resources I would, I mean I could do it acoustically, but the sound I want requires much more than I have access to. And also it doesn't really tell the whole picture if I'm honest. I probably spend about 30 minutes per day on average working on it, and then my car ride to and from work ~40 minutes listening back to the results. I'm extremely time poor and this allows me to chip away at it here and there.
I mean this sincerely but if Suno goes all those invested hours aren’t gonna provide you any real skill set to take elsewhere, not like doing it yourself and learning other software: 4 months sitting in Suno sounds miserable. If it’s all for joy whatever, sorry, but damn. I just can’t get the perspective. I’m trying
That's a lot. I've made 30 songs since mid november of varing degree of quality based on Shadowrun that I've enjoyed since the 80's and thought it would be fun to have themed music.
I've been writing music (My own lyrics) for two years now, creating lore for characters through this music, picking up the best results, and I got more than 80% of my Lark Player filled with my AI Music, I'm just committed and I have a strong love for my characters I created thanks to Suno <3
Making albums is the tricky part; first I take care of the cover arts and write down potential song titles and then see what comes to mind based on that, it works most of the time and I rarely scrapped an album, and if I'm heavily inspired I end up finishing an album in a very short amount of time, it all depends of my inspiration and the days, most of the time the EPs are the easy part, because they are four songs at least and six at most, as for albums, the shortest was 7 songs long and the longest was 20 songs long
It's a cool hobby for me, a way to practice my poetry, and to witness the progress of AI, I accept it with its pros and cons, strengths and flaws, and I even have a couple of these songs posted in my profile, but that's another story
See, here’s the difference between writing music and AI prompt music.
“Yeah, when we finally got together in the studio, it took about six months of grinding” produces 12 songs, maybe five are bangers.
“Making thousands of AI songs is slop; I’ve only made HUNDREDS in a couple years”.
Fun, fandom, folks. I do it too. It’s fun, we ain’t making music. We’re playing with our words; if y’all are writing your words before hitting generate.
most often these people just ise AI to write the songs and create them, so its just a click get songs flood the youtube channels and Spotify with them, they arent interested in writing great songs. Or they just cioy and paste from chatgpt etc right into SUNO then hit create.
also ive seen people say they have 5k songs but they mean 5k creations, to get maybe 100 good songs.
they arent writing the lyrics themselves, or they do like edm/ techno etc, where you only need like 4 lines to make an entire song,
You are far too generous in stating that they have 100 good songs. I'd argue they probably have one song good enough for elevator play. Assuming the building is no more than three stories.
i dont mean good objectively i mean ones they consider finished,
Yeah, Chat GPT (especially GPT-4) is great at lyrics in any poetic meter and language. Here is a dance/march in Ukrainian, Polish, and Russian in trochaic tetrameter: https://suno.com/s/o60E3Yyq0F0Kv2xg Oh and note the chant of "присядка!" means squat--today is leg day so I had GPT write a song about squats lol
Some often coming here to complain that they can't prompt good lyrics too
They are the reason AI haters call it slop. Those "creators" are churning out 100's of songs per month just to clutter up playlists in hopes some of those songs will hit big and make some money. They aren't putting any effort into it at all by just letting the AI write the lyrics and entire song for them.
The workflow goes something like this...
Song 1 prompt: "Write a catchy pop song about love"
Song 2 prompt: "Write a catchy pop song about relationships"
Song 3 prompt: "Write a catchy pop song about spaghetti"
Ad nauseam. You get the idea...
Sadly true. The ones who get the rest of us a bad name.
I do put effort and I don't want slop out there. If I'm going to make AI music, with my lyrics, I want to make good quality ai music. I hate that it's just clogging up streaming services or whatever with "slop" if you are going to do and put it out there put some damn effort into it.
Exactly. Slop is slop, AI or anything else. When you do the same generic stuff as everyone else, put minimal effort into it, and clog up the space with it, it really has nothing to offer. You gotta put time and effort into it, make it yours. Cheers.
I have thousands because I generate the same song over and over again until I get it exactly how I want it to be
I mean the people that put all of their songs out, not generating.
Oh okay my bad. I didn’t realize there were people releasing thousands of songs that is some spam shit 😭 there’s no way they’re good songs
I was starting to feel guilty for being relatively new and having ~1.5k songs! But those are mostly 20 songs in MANY iterations as I explore how to get what I want and discover what I didnt know I wanted. Im sitting on some "bangers" bc im afraid of getting labeled/shunned for producing slop.
yeah me too...generations.....but I'll sometimes generate a couple hundred to get one song that I call a finished base song that I can leave be or add flair to. I'm paring that down as I learn the tools better, but still...
Thats the people giving Ai songs a bad name...
They go as far as buying fake plays for the songs even.
They will get kicked off and move on to the next make money scheme.
This is something someone commented the other day that stuck with me. Once “those people” realize it’s not a get rich quick scheme the people making real shit will have their chance to shine. If the models don’t get gutted, that is…
I am curious of this too… It’s been almost 2 years for me and I have less than 300 songs. Sure I have 10k plus tracks I have made trying to make those songs but I definitely do not have thousands and thousands of songs…
You can't create great songs that easily all the time. If you have a great prompt and can write genuinely great lyrics that understand the music you can churn out good ones quick. But it's useless to make so many it devalues your brand as an artist. It's just like money too much in everyone's hand and we are all poor as sxxx.
This is true about songs with lyrics but I make a lot a lot a lot of instrumental djent in odd time signature by recording riffs then throwing them in. I can blow through credits sometimes when doing that and end up with dozens of unique songs, but most are a sort of one and done. Or I’ll add lyrics to them eventually. Lots of overlapping lineage in my library.
Yh but without lyrics instrumentals are rarely worth listening more than once. So it's a great Instrumental. So what? That's easy. It's the lyrics that will trip you up. And the hardest step.
I have thousands of songs accumulated but most of them are no good and I just forget about them and don't share them. I only save the really, really good ones for a 10 - 12 song album every few months.
I’ve got thousands of versions of some songs 😂 always trying to find the right fit.
They are just using ai lyrics so just spam out music with no soul.
As someone who makes ai music (with effort) I hate this. This is why many say it's slop, and they're right. It's a waste of credits and money for one, and two it's obnoxious sifting through it all.
I would say that if you can’t even write your own lyrics, that are the soul of a song, why even do it.
Umm I do write my own lyrics.
Never implied you didn’t mate!
Ah alright, hard to tell on here sometimes.
I dont know how they do it. It took a year plus for me to get the sounds I wanted from my first song. From rewriting lyrics, to trying different styles, it was a long process. I am four months into work on my second song. The thousand song crowd sounds like they’re using AI to generate lyrics as well and just sending it.
I don't have thousands of songs...I have about 50. And yes, yes I do sometimes stay up all night. I have a medical condition that borks with my sleep anyway and as long as I am up.......might as well do something that is productive and keeps my mind distracted from the fact that I can't sleep. So I do housework, or I organize stuff, or I work on lyrics, remix stuff I have, or make songs....I have time (and the problems that go with) to cogitate and work on songs. Others have more intense demands on their time than I do.
The problem with the spamming is the places that they spam and the lack of processes in place to stop them spamming. I blame the streaming service providers, not the providers of the technology that allows Gen Ai.
I have 67 copyrighted (1982) original songs that I’ve run through Suno. There’s no way I would tarnish my reputation with AI written and composed songs. All I needed from Suno was a better version of my voice. And taking only a week to create a song is an insult to those who spend over a year on a really good album.
These jerks that are spamming the music industry, thinking they’re the next big artist are fools.
I agree it's obnoxious. I'm all for ai music but ffs stop spamming with thoughtless effortless junk with no meaning.
Keep up the passionate work!
Your situation sounds similar to the group Anderson Hunt. They wrote & recorded songs in the 70s/80s (with US Copyright). They never released their music until now. They made a bit of history by including those older recordings with new AI assisted tracks of their old lyrics and some new ones too.
Source: I mastered their songs here in Nashville. I also co-wrote one track.
Proof of source: The album is called AT RANDOM Volume 1 by Anderson Hunt. Run their track "Weak in My Knees - 1980 Original" thru the AI song checker on SubmitHub. Their other tracks (like A Different World) should show a mix of AI/Human. Robert L Hunt writes the lyrics and Jon F Anderson plays guitar. Most of the songs are listed in the US Copyright Office search under Robert L Hunt. Their website: ah-music.com
Feel free to use this example to counter all the negative people who try to keep you from experiencing the type of music you love!
Found him on YouTube music. I really like “weak in my knees”
I have a few blues songs. But mostly rock. Some of the rock songs lean towards folk, and some lean towards southern rock.
I have thousands only because I make relaxing, melodic music for my YouTube channel. These are instrumentals and I generate between 15 and 20 for each video. I also write all of my own lyrics for the other tracks I create. I've generated probably 1k for that purpose, but I am also very picky with the mix, how the lyrics flow, and what Is worthy of an actual final master and release. About 15 out of 1,000. Lot's of curating, changing lyrics, sound cues, structure, weirdness/style influence ratio. If you don't want shitty songs, you have to work to find the one's that aren't.
I'm wondering about that too, I'm working on turning my story into my first album, it has been months and only made 2 songs until now.
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If you know what your doing it doesn't take that long to write lyrics, Keith Richards said he wrote Paint It black in 20 minutes. Lot of lyricist will write good lyrics in 1 to 2 hours and then over time improve those lyrics. Someone that is putting an album out every day or 2 days is not putting much effort into, they are likely letting AI write the lyrics and the music, maybe choosing the best between hundreds of AI created lyrics and audio. I have been writing lyrics for years and only this year started using SUNO to create fully formed songs, and I spend all my free time writing lyrics and using SUNO for audio, and I will write anywhere from 3 to 10 songs a week, usually closer to 5 to 6 a week. I was on vacation 2 weeks ago and wrote 17 songs that week, that was literally spending the entire week writing songs, which burned me out and I only wrote like 3 songs the next week.
I do a lot of experimental genre blending, but I'd say I have between 150-200 released on my Suno channel...a mix of tracks with lyrics and video game inspired instrumentals (what I've been doing as of late as some prompting practice)
Got started on a video game instrumental mega album which might be the only one I do, with 16 tracks so far. I can't or won't even think of mass producing tracks like that, to be honest.
I think it's important to differentiate between "thousands of songs" and "thousands of great songs". No one has thousands of great songs. They might *think* they do, but they really don't. They're a victim of their own hubris. I think I'm great at using Suno to make hit songs, but I understand innately that what I think is "amazing" is likely not nearly as amazing as I think. But most people aren't capable of distinguishing "good" from "mediocre", let alone amazing, and they're also prone to over-estimating their own abilities.
It takes me about a thousand to two thousand credits to get a song to the point where I think it qualifies as "album ready" from a base perspective. So that means I'm generating around two thousand to four thousand songs in total, before I get to a version I like. I'm tweaking along the way, editing lyrics, changing the music prompt, until everything seems to fall into place. That process generally takes a few hours to a few days, depending less on Suno and more on my ability or inability to steer it in the direction I want. I will often keep two versions of a song, to do A/B testing with my music advisory group - I would be happy with either one going on the album - the idea is to take my own ego out of it and let others share opinions about my music anonymously, without my input swaying them.
Speaking of minimizing what I keep, because I'm not interested in having a library with 340,000 songs I'll never listen to again, I bookmark the songs I think are "potential album tracks", click like on tracks I think are solid but not usable on an album (so the algorithm learns from what worked for me) and everything else gets deleted. At this point, I've probably got several thousand songs in my library, but maybe only a few dozen that are "quality" songs that meet all my criteria, and that's after a more than a year on Suno.
The unfortunate reality is that even though Suno's AI is superb at generating music, 99.8% of people aren't creating "hit songs" with it - they're not even creating "great songs" - they're just convincing themselves they are. Even songs with thousands of likes on the Suno platform aren't likely to do any real numbers in charts or on the radio.
If you're not a superb writer with an understanding of cadence and syncopation and other music theory, chances are strong that you're barely scratching the surface of what Suno is capable of, and those "thousands and thousands of great songs" are really just "thousands and thousands of songs".
I have like 2 that could be hit songs....2.
I can barely stand the app with all my songs in one bin and I've only got like 55 songs - I can't imagine folks that have hundreds.
The app needs access to the genre wheel that's on the explore website.
they´re the exact reason why we - the haters can never be 100% wrong. ever.
the only "purpose" for those "artists" is to flood the algorithm and apply copyright triggers into everything.
Yes I hate that. I have no problem listening to ai music but I want great ai music that makes me feel something and I've heard only a handful of songs that did that and the rest were generic snoozefest.
Just type in "make good song" and then release whatever comes out, I don't understand the problem.
I think that is what the haters are under the impression everyone using Suno is doing.
not gonna lie here but id estimate 90% of people on suno do exactly that.
“Make song everyone will like”
I’ve lost track of how many songs I have. That’s one thing I don’t like about the app. The other is you can’t see how long songs are.
Edit: I believe I have 816 generations, give or take a few on other accounts.
Why yes, yes I do
I have never released a Suno-influenced or Suno-cover of one of my songs but I’m very tempted. It takes me a long time to write, record, perform and produce my songs in Logic. I am blown away with what Suno does to one of my songs but hesitant to release anything. Any advice? Is it really worth it? Can I make any money off of it? I can see where some could spam the internet with it and I wish that wasn’t the case. If you’re interested in anything I’ve done I have some private SoundCloud links where I have an original and a Suno cover. Message me and I’ll send you a link. I’d appreciate the feedback.
i have genned almost 7000 songs but 99% are shit
But do you release them all, that's what I'm talking about.
of course not. they suck
I'm starting to recognize the Suno intro Neon harp riff in most new EDM on YouTube.
Same.
Everyone is different?
I have a few thousand songs generated. Though many of them are usable, I only have roughly 70 distinct sets of lyrics (And then variations within that because I rework a lot of them when they aren’t turning out how I want them to) but I would only release 1 version of each song, so many are just going to be unreleased. A lot of them were sort of written prior to discovering Suno, because I liked to write poetry (that would then sit in the notes app on my phone never to be seen again… or so I thought!) I had material going back to 2018, though much of it was lost when my phone broke a while back since I have never been able to get back into that iCloud account. Some of it was in Google Keep though. I still have material I haven’t got around to because I have to be in the mood to write, and not all are great.
When I finish my lyric writing process, I typically hit the generate button about 5 times before I even listen to one of them because sometimes certain lyrics just work so perfectly for a specific genre and sometimes I have a hard time narrowing down which genre that will be. Since I tend to gravitate more towards some genres than others I try to generate a few options before I listen. I also like to change the gender for some songs and I don’t always remember to tweak the lyrics to fit a vocalist of the opposite gender and even though it doesn’t really matter, it bothers me if I have a woman singing lyrics that just don’t match for a female artist, but it would if I changed a few words around. In those cases, I regenerate again afterwards because I like to give it a fair chance. Also I have paid for Suno for almost an entire year at this point, and I try to use all of my credits each month just to not waste my money.
I have 30k generated songs, but also 700 uploads… because I’ll record a riff, or take one of the 100+ compositions I’ve put together in the last 7 years, generate a bunch of variations, maybe use the instrumental to cover it into something with lyrics… so I have like 2k-3k unique “songs” and a whole bunch of variations. One of my songs, over the last year, I’ve covered or remastered into 400 versions since it’s sorta my model checking benchmark…
I’ve been using Suno for 2 years so that’s a part of it. But people see “30k songs” and they assume I’m a slop-master, it’s tiring.
Idk I have 500+ creations but only 14 songs
Sometimes. Especially if there's a theme or concept that has inspired me.
Also, different levels of execution for some people.
If you create your own vocals, craft your own melodies the us Suno as a production app, it'll take a little longer than someone who just uses a Persona and lyrics to create songs
I don't get it either. I'd take a stab and say that they're either instrumentals or they are simply not writing their own lyrics, I've been putting album together that I'm putting real concerted effort into and have been doing it since July, and I have 3 completed songs. Covering, tweaking, editing, then going back and changing sections because some vocal delivery or style doesn't work, one song in particular still isn't quite right and I've been at it for 4 months. 1000's and sometimes 10000+ is just grossly self-indulgent, I only have 3000 songs I've liked in total on Spotify. If they are actively listening to them all and it brings them joy, then that is great for them and I have no qualms, but by and large I'd bet that isn't the case.
Man if you're going to take that long just do it yourself without AI
Haha, that's warranted. Look if I had the resources I would, I mean I could do it acoustically, but the sound I want requires much more than I have access to. And also it doesn't really tell the whole picture if I'm honest. I probably spend about 30 minutes per day on average working on it, and then my car ride to and from work ~40 minutes listening back to the results. I'm extremely time poor and this allows me to chip away at it here and there.
I mean this sincerely but if Suno goes all those invested hours aren’t gonna provide you any real skill set to take elsewhere, not like doing it yourself and learning other software: 4 months sitting in Suno sounds miserable. If it’s all for joy whatever, sorry, but damn. I just can’t get the perspective. I’m trying
That's a lot. I've made 30 songs since mid november of varing degree of quality based on Shadowrun that I've enjoyed since the 80's and thought it would be fun to have themed music.
I've been writing music (My own lyrics) for two years now, creating lore for characters through this music, picking up the best results, and I got more than 80% of my Lark Player filled with my AI Music, I'm just committed and I have a strong love for my characters I created thanks to Suno <3
Making albums is the tricky part; first I take care of the cover arts and write down potential song titles and then see what comes to mind based on that, it works most of the time and I rarely scrapped an album, and if I'm heavily inspired I end up finishing an album in a very short amount of time, it all depends of my inspiration and the days, most of the time the EPs are the easy part, because they are four songs at least and six at most, as for albums, the shortest was 7 songs long and the longest was 20 songs long
It's a cool hobby for me, a way to practice my poetry, and to witness the progress of AI, I accept it with its pros and cons, strengths and flaws, and I even have a couple of these songs posted in my profile, but that's another story
I'm just being happy :)
See, here’s the difference between writing music and AI prompt music.
“Yeah, when we finally got together in the studio, it took about six months of grinding” produces 12 songs, maybe five are bangers.
“Making thousands of AI songs is slop; I’ve only made HUNDREDS in a couple years”.
Fun, fandom, folks. I do it too. It’s fun, we ain’t making music. We’re playing with our words; if y’all are writing your words before hitting generate.
Will a million monkeys entering prompts into Suno accidentally create the next Mozart?
Not a chance.
A million monkeys: https://suno.com/s/y8fIrpYnwTYebGi8