It’s one of those anime abilities were it hurts others but not the user itself I guess. Obviously inverting gravity on yourself would hurt you no matter what in real life, but try not to think too much about it too much ig
Well, technically with vanilla ice, he didn’t use his space eraser on himself. He just used creams physical strength to kill himself and there are other cases of stand users harming themselves with their stands physical ability(ie. N’dul, kira)
I think what OP is talking about is when Vanilla Ice goes in Cream and does the "self consume" thing to activate the eraser ability. Technically that should wipe Vanilla I've from existence, yet he always emerges unharmed.
Vanilla ices stand was never stated to erase anything? It's like the hand, nobody knows where the "erased" matter goes. It could just be into an other dimension, and vanilla ice is clinging to the portal of that dimension (cream) to not fall in while hes rolling around.
Vanilla ices stand was never stated to erase anything?
You know, aside from the parts where he directly says that, talks about Avdol's body being obliterated, we see part of Polnareff's hand dissolving on the way in, and Avdol's soul is shown in the sky at the end of the arc to make it clear that he didn't just get teleported somewhere else.
Here's another take. What if Avdol DID survive, but died when Vanilla Ice did? Everything disappears within that 'dimension' when the stand dies too. But yeah official stuff is official stuff, it's just something I was thinking about recently.
Show me, I dont recall anything stating the stand erases matter
avdols body being obliterated
It could just be whatevers in the dimension, or the dimension has effects that would destroy avdols body, it's not a 100% that he got ERASED.
Polnareffs hand dissolving
Stylistic choice, araki does this frequently with stands where it doesn't really make sense whats physically going on but it's not a big deal so we let it slide, especially as early into stands conception as part 3
Avdols soul
Again, it could just be whatever is in the dimension or effects the dimension has on living things. Or yknow, bleeding out from having both your arms removed.
Of course if you show me vanilla ice saying the stand erases anything it eats ill take it all back and admit im wrong, I could just be forgetting Information.
Anime subs also use the word disintegrated and since Avdol's arms were steaming at the stumps, its safe to say Cream's dimension disintegrates everything inside it that isn't Vanilla Ice.
Well, since the stand cream and the hand share the same explanation that both vanilla ice and okeyasu don’t know what happens to the thing they “erase” I feel like it’s just easy to interpret the just being erased from their universe
Yeah I didn’t say we know for sure what happens to it but it’s just a safe interpretation to say it’s just gets raised from their universe considering it killed avdol cause I believe if it’s just him being transported into another universe or weird world he would have the power to survive for a bit and to burn his wounds shut. So I’m saying it’s kind of injury based eraser instead of practically making the person seem like they didn’t exist it injuries them by erasing their body
vanilla ice, josuke, to my knowledge part 4 said something about stands powers not effecting their users (or at least seemed to imply it but josuke is the only guy atp itd apply to.) but that kinda goes away with part 5 and giorno (kind of?).
I think the Giorno thing is kind of a loophole since he doesn't use his ability on his own Body directly, but rather uses it on something else that Then becomes bio compatible for grafting
Which kind of ignores the Jellyfish but I'm gonna assume Araki thinks bones are not alive and that teeth are bone
What, your magic gravity powers that let you turn other people inside out don't let you safely do it to yourself? Sounds like you got cheated by whoever gave you your magic gravity powers.
Ironically, Made in Heaven did end up having that type of flaw in a different direction. Pucci "moves super fast" by making everything except other people's actions happen super fast, so he got partially blinded by an accelerated knife and then poisoned because of his accelerated breathing.
When you say poisoned by accelerated breathing are you referring to just before he died? Because that’s not what poisoned him, he (unknowingly) pushed weather report’s disk into emporio then emporio used that ability to increase the oxygen concentration in the room which messed up his shit lmao humans are adjusted to only breathing a oxygen concentration of roughly 20%. Or so says my fast googling. Would love to be corrected if I made a mistake there
This is obviously different though. It’s not like he’s immune to the gravity, we are watching him cave his own skull in, there is a clear physical reaction
But then Fugo with Purple seems to hurt the user? i guess it really is one of those things were they just picked what stands affected the user and which ones didn’t.
fugo is a violent fuck and his stand reflects that in annihilating anything that lives, curiously in purple haze feedback he gains inmunity to his virus
Not complete inmunity, some kind of resistance yes since the virus ate itself before killing him but still fucked him up until Giorno came to the rescue.
I think it was stated that Ghiaccio's suit has its own layer of insulation that keeps him warm and he can superposition air molecules through the enclosed suit
Edit: I went through the manga just to double check myself and found these https://imgur.com/a/vQ4M0Ee so maybe a no to the insulation?
If this was during the Kennedy space centre then he had c-moon which made him the Center of gravity so all he'd have to do is increase his power just enough to invert himself
ik you're talking about the user of Kraft Work but I love how you said "the Italian guy from p5" like there aren't 3 non-Italian characters in all of part 5
He's built differently, it's the same reason he can survive blows from Stone Free, Weather Report and Star Platinum all of which are stronger than White Snake which can easily tear apart humans.
There are a few Stand powers (e.g., Bags Groove) where it seems like as long as you undo/deactivate them before you specifically die, all their effects instantly reverse and leave no lasting damage whatsoever, no matter how fucked up your body should be.
Pucci could be totally dying in that particular panel, but since he manages to maintain a pulse long enough to release the ability his head just returns to normal.
Pucci was eaten by green baby and the baby transformed into new Pucci. So maybe he is not 100% human at this point.
He is also not starve to dead during fight using MIH. Even if in Pucci's point of view. The time already passed like 2-3 days before he can kill the group. He is above all logic at this point.
It baffles me that people can get through 6 whole parts and finally ask a question on why one particular moment is a lil goofy when the entire manga has been like that
I didnt finish Part 6 but im wondering: How did he survived after getting some of the frogs poison on his face that could kill a man in a matter of secınds?
Same way Bruno can unzip things without hurting them,like his body or how ciocollata's mold doesn't hurt him. Pucci just made it do no damage to him cause that's within the capabilities of the stand,ain't nothing more to it
Araki once said he started to draw stuff cuz he liked to challenge himself, so that's why he started to come up with crazy things to draw next and crazier stands or techniques, I suppose this panel is one of those moments where he basically wanted to try and make a face getting sucked onto itself and make it cool, tbh it is and that stand is insane
C-Moon allows him to manipulate his body, same way he "healed" himself when Star Platinum broke his face; he was holding his bones together with gravity, kinda like Guts's armor.
It's bizarre right? Or maybe because he can reverse the damage no one knows, maybe similar to jolyne's stone free ability, my guess you thinking about it too much
It’s one of those anime abilities were it hurts others but not the user itself I guess. Obviously inverting gravity on yourself would hurt you no matter what in real life, but try not to think too much about it too much ig
There's Vanilla Ice as precedent.
To be fair, Vanilla Ice would do it anyway because it's Dio we're talking, Ice was on another level of simping
Well, technically with vanilla ice, he didn’t use his space eraser on himself. He just used creams physical strength to kill himself and there are other cases of stand users harming themselves with their stands physical ability(ie. N’dul, kira)
I think what OP is talking about is when Vanilla Ice goes in Cream and does the "self consume" thing to activate the eraser ability. Technically that should wipe Vanilla I've from existence, yet he always emerges unharmed.
Vanilla ices stand was never stated to erase anything? It's like the hand, nobody knows where the "erased" matter goes. It could just be into an other dimension, and vanilla ice is clinging to the portal of that dimension (cream) to not fall in while hes rolling around.
You know, aside from the parts where he directly says that, talks about Avdol's body being obliterated, we see part of Polnareff's hand dissolving on the way in, and Avdol's soul is shown in the sky at the end of the arc to make it clear that he didn't just get teleported somewhere else.
Can ones soul reside in one's arms for safe passage into the afterlife of one's torso is removed into a different dimension? 🤔
Here's another take. What if Avdol DID survive, but died when Vanilla Ice did? Everything disappears within that 'dimension' when the stand dies too. But yeah official stuff is official stuff, it's just something I was thinking about recently.
Show me, I dont recall anything stating the stand erases matter
It could just be whatevers in the dimension, or the dimension has effects that would destroy avdols body, it's not a 100% that he got ERASED.
Stylistic choice, araki does this frequently with stands where it doesn't really make sense whats physically going on but it's not a big deal so we let it slide, especially as early into stands conception as part 3
Again, it could just be whatever is in the dimension or effects the dimension has on living things. Or yknow, bleeding out from having both your arms removed.
Of course if you show me vanilla ice saying the stand erases anything it eats ill take it all back and admit im wrong, I could just be forgetting Information.
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Anime subs also use the word disintegrated and since Avdol's arms were steaming at the stumps, its safe to say Cream's dimension disintegrates everything inside it that isn't Vanilla Ice.
Ah alright thanks, guess I was wrong lol my bad
Well, since the stand cream and the hand share the same explanation that both vanilla ice and okeyasu don’t know what happens to the thing they “erase” I feel like it’s just easy to interpret the just being erased from their universe
Im not saying it doesn't ger erased or that it gets teleported im just saying we dont know what happens to it.
Yeah I didn’t say we know for sure what happens to it but it’s just a safe interpretation to say it’s just gets raised from their universe considering it killed avdol cause I believe if it’s just him being transported into another universe or weird world he would have the power to survive for a bit and to burn his wounds shut. So I’m saying it’s kind of injury based eraser instead of practically making the person seem like they didn’t exist it injuries them by erasing their body
Oh, I didn’t think they meant that so it just kind of feels like what I said has no correlation to the original topic
I think Vanilla ice was only able to do that cause DIO made him a vampire
You telling me blud got revived as a vampire and first new thing he tries is making his own stand eat him? That's sounds bizarre
...Oh
Bro achieved enlightenment
Crazy Diamond too
vanilla ice, josuke, to my knowledge part 4 said something about stands powers not effecting their users (or at least seemed to imply it but josuke is the only guy atp itd apply to.) but that kinda goes away with part 5 and giorno (kind of?).
I think the Giorno thing is kind of a loophole since he doesn't use his ability on his own Body directly, but rather uses it on something else that Then becomes bio compatible for grafting
Which kind of ignores the Jellyfish but I'm gonna assume Araki thinks bones are not alive and that teeth are bone
It's more like you can actively choose to hurt yourself or not with your ability, except rebellious Stand. It's like a self-perserve instinct.
Are you talking about him going into creams mouth of cutting his own head off
Basically the same for anything else in jjba, Araki tends to choose style over sense
What, your magic gravity powers that let you turn other people inside out don't let you safely do it to yourself? Sounds like you got cheated by whoever gave you your magic gravity powers.
It's like those horror takes on superheroes where using your powers kills you because you don't have the magic secondary power to protect you.
Ironically, Made in Heaven did end up having that type of flaw in a different direction. Pucci "moves super fast" by making everything except other people's actions happen super fast, so he got partially blinded by an accelerated knife and then poisoned because of his accelerated breathing.
When you say poisoned by accelerated breathing are you referring to just before he died? Because that’s not what poisoned him, he (unknowingly) pushed weather report’s disk into emporio then emporio used that ability to increase the oxygen concentration in the room which messed up his shit lmao humans are adjusted to only breathing a oxygen concentration of roughly 20%. Or so says my fast googling. Would love to be corrected if I made a mistake there
Yes, Emporio was able to do that without killing himself just as fast because Pucci's breathing and metabolism was accelerated.
Running at super speed and instantly turning into a charred piece of fleshly goo 😂
sometimes stand users are inmune to their own powers like how ghiaccio doesnt die by frostbite
It’s shown multiple times in Jojo that some stands don’t affect their users
This is obviously different though. It’s not like he’s immune to the gravity, we are watching him cave his own skull in, there is a clear physical reaction
And Zucchero could deflate his body with Soft Machine while still retaining his ability to move.
Such immunity is not unheard of.
But then Fugo with Purple seems to hurt the user? i guess it really is one of those things were they just picked what stands affected the user and which ones didn’t.
fugo is a violent fuck and his stand reflects that in annihilating anything that lives, curiously in purple haze feedback he gains inmunity to his virus
Not complete inmunity, some kind of resistance yes since the virus ate itself before killing him but still fucked him up until Giorno came to the rescue.
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I think it was stated that Ghiaccio's suit has its own layer of insulation that keeps him warm and he can superposition air molecules through the enclosed suit
Edit: I went through the manga just to double check myself and found these https://imgur.com/a/vQ4M0Ee so maybe a no to the insulation?
Thats Ghiaccio suit i meant when he was on the roof of the car he was inside a big ice formation
If this was during the Kennedy space centre then he had c-moon which made him the Center of gravity so all he'd have to do is increase his power just enough to invert himself
But he also inverts by touch
if?
I couldn't remember when he did this cuz I remember him doing weird shit at the end of heavy weather aswell
One of the things we saw. C-Moon do is invert people's bodies, its why Jolyne had to turn parts of herself into Möbius strips
Yes but u need to remember white snake gained time and gravity abilities before the evolution
Whitesnake is what sped up puccis watch and the woman's baby and eggs since he couldn't control it at that time
C-moon is the control of gravity with partial time while mih uses c-moons gravity to have full control over time
The italian guy from p5 survives 3 bullets to the head
Mista took 38 bullets total. 35 of those times he shot himself.
Edit: I honestly read your comment as a Persona 5 fact and in my head I was like “weird, so did Mista, the Italian guy from part 5.”
ik you're talking about the user of Kraft Work but I love how you said "the Italian guy from p5" like there aren't 3 non-Italian characters in all of part 5
As opposed to who else from Part 5?
Well it eliminates Koichi
I considered adding that to the joke, but he and Jotaro aren't from GW anyway.
jotaro is also technically part italian, with his grandma being Suzie Q
to be fair, the game was rigged from the start
He's built differently, it's the same reason he can survive blows from Stone Free, Weather Report and Star Platinum all of which are stronger than White Snake which can easily tear apart humans.
Seriously it's so obvious...its because well...if you actually read it you'd know..ummm it's bizarre
‘Cause his name is Pucci, that’s Father Enrico Pucci, and he’s gonna be king of the pirates
To achieve Heaven, you must be willing to destroy your own head.
It's like giornos ear trick
He's secretly a pillar man
Stand users can typically use their powers on themselves without harm (unless it’s a parasitic stand or a stand like Dragon’s dream)
There are a few Stand powers (e.g., Bags Groove) where it seems like as long as you undo/deactivate them before you specifically die, all their effects instantly reverse and leave no lasting damage whatsoever, no matter how fucked up your body should be.
Pucci could be totally dying in that particular panel, but since he manages to maintain a pulse long enough to release the ability his head just returns to normal.
Giorno can do it too with his ear
You mean you can't do that???
Pucci's just cool like that
Skill Issue
Rules to thee but not for me type shit.
my brother in Christ, he explains it in the anime. It’s part of his stand power so it doesn’t hurt him.
Let's use green baby is an excuse.
Pucci was eaten by green baby and the baby transformed into new Pucci. So maybe he is not 100% human at this point.
He is also not starve to dead during fight using MIH. Even if in Pucci's point of view. The time already passed like 2-3 days before he can kill the group. He is above all logic at this point.
maybe because JoJo's BIZARRE Adventure could be, you know, um...BIZARRE, maybe?
Pucci has the most plot armor of any and all JoJo characters so you should never question anything he does.
That title belongs to Joseph and you know it!
Wrong, this also isn’t plot armour it’s one of his abilities
You may be right but I don't like pucci
"Plot Armor" is the main theme of Jojo. It's just called fate in the text
Oingo Boingo art style
He could’ve just moved a bit to the left 😭
It baffles me that people can get through 6 whole parts and finally ask a question on why one particular moment is a lil goofy when the entire manga has been like that
He's that guy
if you don't think hard about it, it works
Was this in the anime?
Yes
I’ve seen crazier head trauma
I didnt finish Part 6 but im wondering: How did he survived after getting some of the frogs poison on his face that could kill a man in a matter of secınds?
no brain in there
Same way Bruno can unzip things without hurting them,like his body or how ciocollata's mold doesn't hurt him. Pucci just made it do no damage to him cause that's within the capabilities of the stand,ain't nothing more to it
Araki once said he started to draw stuff cuz he liked to challenge himself, so that's why he started to come up with crazy things to draw next and crazier stands or techniques, I suppose this panel is one of those moments where he basically wanted to try and make a face getting sucked onto itself and make it cool, tbh it is and that stand is insane
C-Moon allows him to manipulate his body, same way he "healed" himself when Star Platinum broke his face; he was holding his bones together with gravity, kinda like Guts's armor.
Same way everyone survived part 3: the power of bullshit
It's bizarre right? Or maybe because he can reverse the damage no one knows, maybe similar to jolyne's stone free ability, my guess you thinking about it too much
He probably developed some regenerative abilities after eating the green baby
I rewatched part 4 and 5 recently and its frustrating sometimes how araki writes his plots and abilities