Yoda. Dooku was forced to retreat from him when he realized that Yoda had superior advantage over him in Attack of the Clones.
Sidious was unnerved when he failed to break Yoda with Sith sorcery. When Yoda confronts him in Revenge of the Sith, Sidious tried to retreat from him only to be stopped (“If so powerful you are, why leave?”).
Yoda: Dark Rendezvous in Legends has some good parts that really highlight why Yoda is so great:
“Teach me about pain, think you can?” Yoda said softly. “Think the old master cannot care, mmm? Forgotten who I am, have you? Old I am, yes. Mm. Loved more than you, have I, Padawan. Lost more. Hated more. Killed more. “The green eyes narrowed to gleaming slits under heavy lids. Dragon eyes, old and terrible. “Think wisdom comes at no cost? The dark side, yes, it is easier for them. The pain grows too great, and they eat the darkness to flee from it. Not Yoda. Yoda loves and suffers for it, loves and suffers.” One could have heard a feather hit the floor. “The price of Yoda’s wisdom, high it is, very high, and the cost goes on forever. But teach me about pain, will you?”
“So be angry about that!” Dooku said. “Hate! Rage! Despair! Allow yourself, just once, to stop playing at the game of Jedi Knight, and admit what you have always known: you are alone, and you are great, and when the world strikes you it is better to strike back than to turn your cheek. Feel, Yoda! I can feel the darkness rising in you. Here, in this place, be honest for once and feel the truth about yourself.”
At this moment Yoda turned, and Dooku gasped. Whether it was the play of the holomonitors, beaming their views of bleak space and distant battles, or some other trick of the light, Yoda’s face was deeply hidden in the shadows, mottled black and blue, so that for one terrible instant he looked exactly like Darth Sidious. Or rather, it was Yoda as he might have been, or could yet become: a Yoda gone rotten, a Yoda whose awesome powers had been utterly unleashed by his connection to the dark side. In a flash Dooku saw how foolish he had been, trying to urge the old Master to the dark side. If Yoda ever turned that way, Sidious himself would be annihilated. The universe had yet to comprehend the kind of evil that a Jedi Knight of nearly nine hundred years could wield.
Of course not, because none of them have ever read quality literature. We can tell because of what came next.
Edit: The main reason this bothers me is the disrespect it shows to people who clearly put their heart into making quality stories to expand the philosophy of the universe and the characters in it. I understand this reduces the "creative freedom" of the new writers, and I'd be less salty about it if they used that creative freedom to create something of comparable depth. But they didn't, so I'm not.
I was a kid when I saw attack of the clones, so I’m saying this with rose colored glasses, but I always thought his Dooku scene was the best of both worlds. He trained Dooku, and Dooku was a duelist. Yoda gave Dooku a fair fight but the latter was clearly outmatched, and when Dooku started using the force (which gave him the edge against Obi-Wan & Anakin,) Yoda shows it’s futile. Once again, kid me is somewhat blinded by the cool factor of a 900° spinning lightsaber vortex, but George wanted me to buy more lightsaber toys and knew what would work.
Compromise: he gets the lightsaber but we lose the acrobatics and he just stands there tanking it or walking around slowly mildly nonchalantly whilst dispensing lessons.
I have always thought this. Yoda is supposed to be a master swordsman and basically at one with the force. His movement should be minimal and fluid. People should try to hit him, and they just...can't. He's too fast, too skilled, and not in a back-flipping, acrobatic way. But in a 'reflexively moves his head a millimeter to the left to dodge an attack and lands a perfectly placed counter at the same time' sort of way.
Legends had a lot of garbage but there was also a lot of incredible stuff from it too.
It still frustrates me that Disney can't look at stuff like this and feel inspired. Instead, in this vast galaxy with countless eras that have come and gone, the only thing that matters is the Skywalker family.
Is it a coincidence that Dune is also centered around a desert planet? Or that most of Earth's population follows the teachings of prophets that arose in deserts? That desert people, at some point or another, swept over half the world? There is something strange about deserts and what they inspire in people. Passion. Obsession. Science-fiction and fantasy authors recognize this and use it in their works.
Well Dune was one of the big inspirations for Star Wars.
A desert planet, a chosen one with a "magic" power, who outclasses every opponents "magic", against an evil feudal empire with an imperator at its head.
Dune together with Lord of the Rings and Samurai movies by Akira Kurosawa and a sprinkle of WW2 nostalgia were the major influences for early Star Wars.
Oil. Petroleum. The most valuable resource on 20th century Earth. It's a direct analogue to Dune's spice (which was vital for interstellar transportation).
Copy-pasted the Tatooine "Appearances" list from Wookieepedia into Excel and it's over 500 entries long... while a lot of that is "Mentioned only", it's still in 5 of the 6 OT/PT movies, pretty much every game, and like 200+ books and comics.
That also doesn't include non-canon appearances (Tag & Bink, LEGO, Tales, etc) or the hundreds of mentions in activity books, reference books, RPG source books, etc.
I mean, you’re responding to a comment about Yoda and dooku which is still during the skywalker time. I don’t disagree with you but not sure this is the example to use when still in the Anakin skywalker era.
Yes this interaction takes place during The Clone Wars, but it is built on a relationship and time that predates Anakin's birth. Yoda is still calling Dooku a Padawan in this conversation after all. This moment is a continuation of past moments that happened before Anakin was born.
Yeah if he was in era with no rules of two we would have seen a scene where yoda solo a dozen of sith and spook away an other dozen. Even sidious tried to avoid the fight.
Imagine a badass scene of younger Yoda just absolutely slaying a dozen sith or more with blood spatter on his face. Gone is the kind and wise little old man we knew, replaced with (in the eyes of the sith) a demon with unmatched skill and seemingly omnipotent battle prowess
It's worth noting that to gain the kind of edge he did against Yoda, Sidious had to wrench the Force itself into a tilt towards the dark side, engineer a galactic civil war, and wipe out nearly every other Jedi. Basically he had to psychologically fuck Yoda up over the course of years before he was secure enough to confront him.
And even then his first impulse on actually facing Yoda was to make a beeline for the door.
Imagine being generation 24 of the Sith, and the 2 biggest problems on your plate are 1. Why can’t I make myself immortal and 2. Why won’t that fucking frog die
Sith spirit in the holocron: "The fuck do you mean he's still alive, it's been 400 years! What the hell species lives that long?...The hell do you mean 'nobody knows'?...Who the fuck is 'George Lucas' and why the hell does he get to decide what species are on record?"
In many ways, the rule of 2 Sith were taking advantage of him specifically. He presided over the worst fall of the Jedi in their 8k year history. Yoda dropped the ball in an insane way and would historically go down as one of the worst grandmasters of the order.
Doesn’t sense Sidious right under him, takes one hit from him in the fight and retreats, hides for 20 years and lets the galaxy go to shit because of his failure.
Come on guys, it’s Yoda. Hundreds of years he was the big baddie of the Jedi. Even though there weren’t hundreds of sith fearing him, he easily held the helm of strongest jedi for the longest time period.
I know you're joking but you made me think about it, and I feel like any decent force-user vs Transformers is a pretty low-dif matchup, depending on what you consider canon. Somebody who can yank a Star Destroyer out of orbit is going to have no problem crumpling Megatron and Starscream like tin cans.
I don't disagree but it got the point across faster. At minimum they are evenly matched, but also Sidious has plot armor because the whole galactic coup thing fails if Sidious dies to a ketamine frog in the final hour.
But ObiWan on paper was good at taking out Sith, but REALLY bad at actually killing them. He beat Maul (multiple times), Maul+Savage, Anakin (softshell) and Vader (hardshell). He toyed with Ventress multiple times. Dooku is basically his kryptonite, so he repeatedly lost to him. He beat Grievous, who wasn't a sith, but was a shit-trained Jedi killer.
I'm not saying ObiWan would beat Sidious, but simply by the fact that he put himself out there an didn't spend all his time in a temple or on a bridge, he took out a lot of Sith and Sith-trained assassins.
And his "loss" to Vader in the end was less a loss of the fight and more a sacrifice to save Luke.
In the RotS novelization, Obi Wan is depicted as the shining beacon of the force, the perfect Jedi. In tune with the force, the right blend of everything. He wasn't necessarily the strongest but he was the best of them. Ironically why he failed Anakin.
JJ cannon fodder Abrams killed the last Skywalker then made Rey call herself Skywalker and called the movie the rise of Skywalker despite the line being extinct. Resurrected the emperor so that Anakin Skywalker wasn't the chosen one anymore.
He really dislikes the Skywalkers for some reason.
Ironically at this point, I think if he had been left in charge for the last film we would have gotten a way better conclusion than whatever the fuck Rise of Skywalker was. It was pretty heavily established Rey wasn't special by bloodline, but JJ wanted to make her a Palpatine for some stupid reason.
Non cannon Yoda casually kills a sith master who lands on degobah as after Yoda exiles himself there. It was supposed to be the origin of the dark side cave.
I remember reading the book for the first time and being blown away that Yoda offs this guy after he causes problems the whole book
Also to note is his death: he just leaves the living realm and becomes a force-ghost. This is like the bible equivalent of just ascending straight to heaven and becoming an angel.
I don't know if there's something more palpable than opinions in this matter, but my two cents would be Bastila. From the Legends, of course. The whole Battle Meditation thing could affect individuals or masses alike.
Can I then throw in Nomi Sunrider in there? She also had prowess in Battle Meditation (fun fact, Bastila was originally planned to be Nomi’s daughter for that reason), but also the natural ability to cut off others from the Force. She also rose to the rank of Grandmaster.
Absolutely hilarious (and sad) story about that. While her daughter, Vima Sunrider, was supposed to be Bastila in KOTOR- BioWare renamed the character due to fear of a lawsuit from the Chrysler Automotive. It turns out “Sunrider” was the name of their trademarked removable Jeep roof.
What makes this extra bizarre is that BioWare probably could have won in court the right to use the Sunrider name since trademarks are industry-specific; but they decided to just avoid any type of legal dispute altogether.
So that’s why the Sunriders, who were the original Old Republic characters actually, were omitted from KOTOR.
Last year I actually made a KOTOR mod that restored Vima Sunrider as a companion in homage to her near-inclusion in the game.
Bastila was an absolute menace. Her descendant Satele ended up the same way, while not specifically using Battle Meditation, her saber skills, mastery and power through the force, etc etc still made her one of the best Grand Masters of her time. I guess that's what happen when your predecessors or Bastila and Revan.
The only other person I could think of that was feared by the Sith back in those times would probably have to be Revan. He's the only one aside from Ahsoka, at least from everything I've seen, that has successfully been able to be what everyone calls a Grey Jedi or probably the closest we've seen to the original Jed'daii before they split into what it is now. Not being swayed by either side, but still having mastery and influence over both.
Though, I would honestly make the argument that only happened because Revan got completely mind-wiped by Bastilla.
I doubt Revan would ever turn back to the Light again when he wasn't mind-wiped. Granted, he did eventually regain all his memories back and still chose the Light in the end, but I would argue that's because Revan's mind wasn't being messed up by the Darkside 24/7 by this point. Despite what Kreia says in KOTOR II, I still firmly believe that Revan genuinely fell to the Darkside despite what Kreia makes it out to be a "self-sacrifice" from her former Padawan. She may have points, but I still wouldn't trust her at any point.
Wow, I didn't know that, thanks for this cool bit! And definitely, a Battle Meditation +5 Att/Pa, +10 Will saves, and a -20 debuff to any Force Ability used by any enemy in sight? Count me in!
Depends on which time period… Old republic you’re probably looking at Revan after his return. Clone wars, either Kenobi for tactics, Skywalker for recklessness or Windu for swordplay. Then during the time of the Empire; Luke
I think it would be Yoda, all of them are scary but none are as strong as Yoda until Anakin reaches his full potential. Dooku literally the best lightsaber dualist in the universe ran away and Palpatine only got the upper hand because of order 66 and Yoda definitely being weakened by it and Yoda knowing this fight wasn't the end and he needed to survive.
In the novels, back then, Dooku and Sidious were scared shitless of the idea of Yoda turning to the Dark Side, and their plot to turn him around was more or less just to take him out from the Order, and then kill him asap.
Dooku was the greatest Form II master, but TCW says Yoda is the best duelist in the Jedi order (a story choice I disagree with, but it’s at least what the characters in canon believe).
I think when Revan went BACK to vitiate and got captured I think the sith’s fear of him was replaced by them being absolutely pissed off with him because in their eyes he was holding them back. Revan was fighting vitiate in the mindscape and was holding vitiate back from attacking the republic.
Not to mention there was an open secret among the Sith that a Jedi Knight had killed Vitiate(the death of the emperor is later publicly confirmed although those in actual power know he wasn’t dead but doing his whole reincarnation thing), and taken out a couple of Dark Council members(more if any of the sidequest available to all republic classes were done by the Knight). If SWTOR is legend canon, as your post seems to imply, that likely makes that knight the most feared, being that thousands of Sith in the empire were aware of who he/she took down.
I’d like to throw Qui Gon into the mix during the Clone Wars era. Not for any of the reasons above, I just think Palpatine feared how different he was from the rest of the Jedi. He was probably the only Jedi that would have sniffed him out had he lived. He also may have prevented Anakin’s fall. Definitely the biggest what if scenario.
I’m definitely on that boat for Qui Gon preventing Anakin’s fall, even if he didn’t sniff out Palpatine directly he would’ve been a much better supporter than Obi Wan was. Qui Gon acted like a father, Obi Wan acted like an older brother/friend.
Tbh while Qui Gon would have been a better fit, I still think it’s likely that Anakin would have turned or at best left the Jedi order and his destiny behind. Anakin had so many emotional issues stemming from his slavery and upbringing, what he needed was not a brother or a father, he needed a therapist.
It’s touched on in the movie a bit but he’s a very non traditional Jedi. He doesn’t agree with the council much and thinks the Jedi have strayed from their purpose. He isn’t far off from Dooku in that regard, though he is much more compassionate and moral. Duel of the Fates is literally a duel over Anakin’s fate, as Qui Gon’s death alters the trajectory of his training and upbringing as a Jedi.
Most of this is from other media, some canon and others not. He’s always been portrayed as some form of maverick though, bordering on gray Jedi in some ways.
There’s lots of speculation and discussion on what Qui Gon would have done had he lived and a lot of people think he’d have ended up leaving the order at the start of the war, or at least train Anakin in a way that would have prevented his downfall.
This is also a valid option, but I picked Revan simply because more people (in universe) have heard of Revan.
Revan is an ideological threat all the way into the Republic and beyond, because Revan is too large a part of history to be covered up.
Revan is proof that one can be aligned (or even just affiliated with) the Dark Side and still be a decent person. The Sith all aspire to use the power of the Dark side without being consumed by it, but how many of them actually manage that?
By reputation, sure, being that they were a Sith Lord, but as far as encountering a Jedi the Exile must be a nightmare: drawing on the force of others whilst also projecting the echoes of thousands of deaths in perpetuity.
I’m not sure how “canon” (what is canon anyway) Exile lore panned out in Old Republic, but as far as gameplay goes, I think it would be terrifying to meet a Jedi who’s unabashedly spamming Force Drain in combat.
Wasn't there also that Sith Lord who was basically just a businessman and Force lore nerd or something and died of old age surrounded by family and friends?
Surik's my favorite char overall for that very reason, the Void Side let her do whatever the fuck she wants without any interference from the Force, the only thing is to watch out not to accidently brainwahs your allies...
I mean after that, when revan and Mitra (the exile) meet up in the unknown regions before they try to take the emperor. (In the book Revan, which is legends now)
I would say Skywalker before he was consumed by emotions. Which is the reason kenobi was able to defeat him. He was the chosen one that was prophecy for thousands of years. He could take all of them. And I think (even if it’s not canon officially) palpatine only executed order 66 once he was assured Anakin was on his side. He wouldn’t do order 66 until Anakin was dealt with. Even palpatine feared him
Jokes aside, EU Luke has his favorite drink too. EU Luke loves chocolate milk. Lando was the one to introduce Luke to hot chocolate. After the Yuuzhan Vong War, the planets that supplied chocolate for the Galaxy were devastated so the drink became a rarity.
I’ll never forgive Disney for taking the powerful and full of good Luke Skywalksr and turning him into a lost and broken cry baby.
Disney had a great roadmap they could have taken using Legends material. Instead they gave us the biggest pile of stinking hot garbage ever in Episode 7, 8, and 9.
I think they’re referring to the Legends incarnation of Luke. Both the Lost Tribe of the Sith and Darth Krayt’s One Sith stayed hidden during Luke’s active period as Grand Master for a reason.
Snoke and Ben are Sith adjacent (being manipulated by Palpatine) and they’re both terrified of Luke. It’s reasonable to assume that Palpatine would be too. Also I’m not sure if Exim Panshard was ever scared of Luke but he should have been.
Imm surprised not to see more people saying Yoda. Maybe I dont know enough about him but I would think simply by how long he lived / how strong he was there would be more stories about him. Didnt he live to be like 900 years old and basic training for every jedi after a certain point?
Id think the guy who is training all the guys and also as powerful as he was would make him someone to be feared.
Yoda was the quintessential jedi. And that includes being minimally involved in affairs around him. Yoda wasn't feared because he was a monk and master first, and a jedi Knight second.
Yeah but the question is over time. Realistically lets say he died at 900 so when we see him in the prequels he is like 875 years old?
What Im getting at is he had a long time for people to get to know him / fear him. By the time Sidious is iin full power Yodas fighting days were long behind him.
Also Im not really sure sith fear anything now that I think about it. Other than Luke who they didnt even really fear him they wanted to turn him. IDK
Probably Yoda. The Sith spent 1000 years in hiding. And while I’m sure some of that was trying to chip away at democracy and rebuild their resources, some of the reason they didn’t try to return sooner was because of Yoda.
He destroyed the Sith yes but he wasn’t the chosen one. He was the catalyst to bring the chosen one (Anakin) back to the light, bringing balance to the force and fulfilling the prophecy.
Not sure about pre-Episode 1 lore, but my top three would be:
Yoda: Darth Sidious had a moment of fear when he realized he was losing against Yoda.
Luke Skywalker: Canonically the most powerful Jedi (at least according to George Lucas). But I rank him second for now because we haven't really seen Luke's full potential outside of legends.
Mace Windu: While I think Mace is weaker in the force than Yoda and Luke, Mace is definitely the most powerful duelist. Any Sith user would have to be superior in the force just to even have a slight edge over him.
Honorable Mentions:
Anakin Skywalker: The biggest what-if character had he not been cooked alive in Mustafar after losing to Obi-Wan Kenobi. His force potential was untapped, probably even more so than Luke Skywalker.
Obi-Wan Kenobi: Against less experienced Sith Lords, Obi-Wan is a force of nature. He has had experience fighting Sith users before and during the clone wars. Although, against more powerful Sith users, Obi-Wan loses in both the force and in duels.
There was this one dude named Anakin, who kind of wiped out everybody. I don’t know if I had to guess I would think that it would be the scary monster who literally ended both, but you know that that’s just me.
Yoda, and its not even close. For reference, Dooku had a short glimpse of what a Dark Side Yoda could be in a book and it terrified him. Sidious who most claim to be the most powerfull Sith ever tried to run when Yoda came to him in RotS. I am sure he recognized what an unleashed DS Yoda could do.
Think about looking at what happened from the outside in. He walked into a room alone with both Palpatine who is widely considered the strongest sith ever in history, and Vader who would have been stronger if he hadn't gotten burned.
Oh and he was in handcuffs when he went in.
And both of them died, while he walked out without a scratch.
If you don't have the audience's PoV from inside the room that is fucking terrifying.
I doubt you'll ever pinpoint just one, because that would require a lot of sith to admit they're all afraid of someone. That being said, there have been a lot of famous jedi that the sith have been wary to cross and even feared as a whole: Awdrysta Pina, Bastilla Shan, Revan, Satele shan, Ven Zallow, Lord Hoth. Kenobi, Mace Windu and Anakin were all highly feared by the separatists and by Palpatine, but at that point there were only 2 sith at a time, so its hard to count them as the most feared jedi ever
It would have to be in the old republic days simply because there were just not that many sith going forward. I suppose Legends Luke terrified 100% of all 1 or 2 sith that existed at that time, but that's not really 'most feared of all time' levels.
Probably Reven? There may be a legends character that was better, but there was a Jedi/Sith war going on so there were lots of Sith and they were not fond of that man.
Honestly, given how relieved palpatine was when he heard about him dying I’d say qui gon. Qui gon wasn’t a particularly physical threat to the Sith but the fact that he was a Jedi who wasn’t fully on board with the Jedi dogma was an absolute threat because the Sith, especially in the modern time of the mainline movies (but also in legends as shown in old republic media) very much relied on the Jedi’s unwillingness to veer from dogma and tradition as a means to exploit the predictable flaws said lack of flexibility causes.
That's only mentioned in the Legends book. There's no evidence in canon that Palpatine was particularly concerned about Qui-Gon. He didn't fear any of the Jedi until Yoda almost beat him.
And frankly, even if he had been super unconventional, which I don't think is really supported, why would Palpatine give a crap about one Jedi who isn't even on the council doing this or that? Plenty of Jedi were kind of doing their own thing at times. Nothing about that is particularly threatening to Palpatine.
I'd actually say Celeste Morne, because with the Muur Talisman she's basically a walking WMD, and her only goal in life is preventing the Talisman from falling into the wrong hands.
Mace Windu. Windu was scarier, a Jedi who walked the edge of the dark side and didn’t fall. With Vaapad, he turned a Sith’s own rage against them. fighting him meant battling your own darkness.
Bastila has her battle meditation, which is an incredibly rare force ability. Revan ended the Mandalorian Wars, and then defeated Darth Malak and destroyed the Star Forge. Yoda was the grandmaster of the Jedi Order for centuries. Luke is the Chosen One.
Empire/New Republic: Luke Skywalker (partly by default).
New Sith Wars: Lord Hoth.
KOTOR era: a lot of people are saying Bastilla Shan but I think that prize really goes to the Jedi Exile. Sion and Nihilus turned the galaxy upside down just trying to destroy them.
If it wasn't for the fall of the Jedi Order and the Republic, it should be Kenobi. He defeated 2 Sith Lords and 1 Sith trained 4 lightsaber wielding duelist. I'm not up on the new canon, but can you name another more successful Jedi? If there were other Jedi around to appreciate it, he would be legendary.
In canon, Snoke was terrified of Luke's return, fearing that he could overturn their entire operation.
In Legends, Darh Krayt did EVERYTHING in his power to remain under Luke's radar and only emerged from his hideout after Luke was dead. On purpose if I remember correctly.
Legends/EU wise it'd probably be Lord Hoth given he was the one to lead the campaign that broke all the Sith Empires and warlord states at the end of the New Sith Wars.
Yoda. Dooku was forced to retreat from him when he realized that Yoda had superior advantage over him in Attack of the Clones.
Sidious was unnerved when he failed to break Yoda with Sith sorcery. When Yoda confronts him in Revenge of the Sith, Sidious tried to retreat from him only to be stopped (“If so powerful you are, why leave?”).
Yoda: Dark Rendezvous in Legends has some good parts that really highlight why Yoda is so great:
How awesome. Thanks for sharing that excerpt.
got goosebumps ngl
This fucking right here is a perfect example of why the deprecation of Legends really grinds my gears.
What annoys me the most, is that they had an exceptionally awesome female lead, Jaina, that they could’ve used. And they wasted it.
Hell, they could’ve had Mara for the first half with the Vong, and then shifted to Jaina.
What's even worse is I think Daisy and Adam would have made for a pretty good Jaina and Jacen
Sure but the mainstream couldn't handle a 16yr old anakin losing half his strike team and dying to save the rest
Instead we got Mary Sue Rey
The people who made that decision, didn’t ever bother to read any of it before they threw it all out.
Of course not, because none of them have ever read quality literature. We can tell because of what came next.
Edit: The main reason this bothers me is the disrespect it shows to people who clearly put their heart into making quality stories to expand the philosophy of the universe and the characters in it. I understand this reduces the "creative freedom" of the new writers, and I'd be less salty about it if they used that creative freedom to create something of comparable depth. But they didn't, so I'm not.
It’s also why I think it was a mistake to ever give Yoda a lightsaber in the first place.
Dude was so powerful he should have been beyond the need for a lightsaber.
I was a kid when I saw attack of the clones, so I’m saying this with rose colored glasses, but I always thought his Dooku scene was the best of both worlds. He trained Dooku, and Dooku was a duelist. Yoda gave Dooku a fair fight but the latter was clearly outmatched, and when Dooku started using the force (which gave him the edge against Obi-Wan & Anakin,) Yoda shows it’s futile. Once again, kid me is somewhat blinded by the cool factor of a 900° spinning lightsaber vortex, but George wanted me to buy more lightsaber toys and knew what would work.
I think that's more the reason he should have one. The lightsaber focuses his power, so that it keeps things under control.
Compromise: he gets the lightsaber but we lose the acrobatics and he just stands there tanking it or walking around slowly mildly nonchalantly whilst dispensing lessons.
I have always thought this. Yoda is supposed to be a master swordsman and basically at one with the force. His movement should be minimal and fluid. People should try to hit him, and they just...can't. He's too fast, too skilled, and not in a back-flipping, acrobatic way. But in a 'reflexively moves his head a millimeter to the left to dodge an attack and lands a perfectly placed counter at the same time' sort of way.
Legends had a lot of garbage but there was also a lot of incredible stuff from it too.
It still frustrates me that Disney can't look at stuff like this and feel inspired. Instead, in this vast galaxy with countless eras that have come and gone, the only thing that matters is the Skywalker family.
And tattoine, cant forget tattoine.
Let's not act like pre-Disney Star Wars wasn't obsessed with Tatooine also
Is it a coincidence that Dune is also centered around a desert planet? Or that most of Earth's population follows the teachings of prophets that arose in deserts? That desert people, at some point or another, swept over half the world? There is something strange about deserts and what they inspire in people. Passion. Obsession. Science-fiction and fantasy authors recognize this and use it in their works.
Well Dune was one of the big inspirations for Star Wars. A desert planet, a chosen one with a "magic" power, who outclasses every opponents "magic", against an evil feudal empire with an imperator at its head.
Dune together with Lord of the Rings and Samurai movies by Akira Kurosawa and a sprinkle of WW2 nostalgia were the major influences for early Star Wars.
So no, it isn't a coincidence.
Yeah, but Dune is the source of the most valuable resource in the universe. Luke calls Tatooine a shithole* in ANH.
*paraphrased
Oil. Petroleum. The most valuable resource on 20th century Earth. It's a direct analogue to Dune's spice (which was vital for interstellar transportation).
Yeah it was in every movie except Empire
Which had Hoth. A snow/desert planet
Copy-pasted the Tatooine "Appearances" list from Wookieepedia into Excel and it's over 500 entries long... while a lot of that is "Mentioned only", it's still in 5 of the 6 OT/PT movies, pretty much every game, and like 200+ books and comics.
That also doesn't include non-canon appearances (Tag & Bink, LEGO, Tales, etc) or the hundreds of mentions in activity books, reference books, RPG source books, etc.
I don’t like tattoine its course, rough and irritating
And it gets everywhere.
Cantina forget Tatooine.
I mean, you’re responding to a comment about Yoda and dooku which is still during the skywalker time. I don’t disagree with you but not sure this is the example to use when still in the Anakin skywalker era.
Yes this interaction takes place during The Clone Wars, but it is built on a relationship and time that predates Anakin's birth. Yoda is still calling Dooku a Padawan in this conversation after all. This moment is a continuation of past moments that happened before Anakin was born.
Thank you. I forget how much older dooku is compared to Anakin.
That's fucking epic!
Oh shit. Now I have to read that.
yoda gone rotten
So good
neat
i second this book. it’s freaking great
Yeah if he was in era with no rules of two we would have seen a scene where yoda solo a dozen of sith and spook away an other dozen. Even sidious tried to avoid the fight.
On the other hand. You could say he fought every single living Sith in his era and made them all scared.
Yoda never fought Maul though
Nor Vader.
He probably did some sparing with Anakin some point, or just Anakin having seen him in combat enough to get a general sense of how strong he is.
Imagine a badass scene of younger Yoda just absolutely slaying a dozen sith or more with blood spatter on his face. Gone is the kind and wise little old man we knew, replaced with (in the eyes of the sith) a demon with unmatched skill and seemingly omnipotent battle prowess
And that would be completely antithetical to the point of the character
Not necessarily. Not if you show a young Yoda who's yet to learn the lessons that made him the jedi we know him as today.
That's so unnecessary though
That sounds absolutely awful & completely divorced from the narrative.
The RotS novelization even mentions that Yoda and Sidious were afraid of each other
It's worth noting that to gain the kind of edge he did against Yoda, Sidious had to wrench the Force itself into a tilt towards the dark side, engineer a galactic civil war, and wipe out nearly every other Jedi. Basically he had to psychologically fuck Yoda up over the course of years before he was secure enough to confront him.
And even then his first impulse on actually facing Yoda was to make a beeline for the door.
Not only that, but Yoda lived for a thousand years, and he was presumably a highly ranked master, if not grandmaster, for a large portion of that.
In many ways, the rule of 2 Sith were hiding from him, specifically.
They might have feared Luke, or Nomi, or whoever, but who else can you say kept the Sith in hiding for centuries?
Imagine being generation 24 of the Sith, and the 2 biggest problems on your plate are 1. Why can’t I make myself immortal and 2. Why won’t that fucking frog die
Sith spirit in the holocron: "The fuck do you mean he's still alive, it's been 400 years! What the hell species lives that long?...The hell do you mean 'nobody knows'?...Who the fuck is 'George Lucas' and why the hell does he get to decide what species are on record?"
They never found his space ketamine dealer.
They weren't hiding from him for centures lol.
In many ways, the rule of 2 Sith were taking advantage of him specifically. He presided over the worst fall of the Jedi in their 8k year history. Yoda dropped the ball in an insane way and would historically go down as one of the worst grandmasters of the order.
It’s easily Yoda. When you’re the one that fights the boss you’re the most feared.
And as far as i'm aware Yoda is the only person to have done battle with a literal mountain (eu canon).
Yoda is the most over-gassed-up guy of all time.
Doesn’t sense Sidious right under him, takes one hit from him in the fight and retreats, hides for 20 years and lets the galaxy go to shit because of his failure.
Somersaulting a lot doesn’t mask that.
Come on guys, it’s Yoda. Hundreds of years he was the big baddie of the Jedi. Even though there weren’t hundreds of sith fearing him, he easily held the helm of strongest jedi for the longest time period.
Also dude is like 900 years old when he beats Sidious at his prime.
But could Yoda handle Megatron with Starscream backup? Because THAT’S prime
I know you're joking but you made me think about it, and I feel like any decent force-user vs Transformers is a pretty low-dif matchup, depending on what you consider canon. Somebody who can yank a Star Destroyer out of orbit is going to have no problem crumpling Megatron and Starscream like tin cans.
You’re making me wonder if the Transformer species can use the Force. If they’re technically living beings.
I feel like labeling it as defeating Sidious is a stretch.
I don't disagree but it got the point across faster. At minimum they are evenly matched, but also Sidious has plot armor because the whole galactic coup thing fails if Sidious dies to a ketamine frog in the final hour.
Fucking kefamine frog lmao
Yoda was my first thought, but my second thought was that both Obi and Luke out-dueled the Chosen One.
Yoda was feared.
But ObiWan on paper was good at taking out Sith, but REALLY bad at actually killing them. He beat Maul (multiple times), Maul+Savage, Anakin (softshell) and Vader (hardshell). He toyed with Ventress multiple times. Dooku is basically his kryptonite, so he repeatedly lost to him. He beat Grievous, who wasn't a sith, but was a shit-trained Jedi killer.
I'm not saying ObiWan would beat Sidious, but simply by the fact that he put himself out there an didn't spend all his time in a temple or on a bridge, he took out a lot of Sith and Sith-trained assassins.
And his "loss" to Vader in the end was less a loss of the fight and more a sacrifice to save Luke.
In the RotS novelization, Obi Wan is depicted as the shining beacon of the force, the perfect Jedi. In tune with the force, the right blend of everything. He wasn't necessarily the strongest but he was the best of them. Ironically why he failed Anakin.
I love how that book lays out the great tragedy of the PT. That Obi-Wan was his brother, but Qui-Gon was the father he needed.
Hence why that track was called "Duel of the Fates"
I like how Dooku describes Kenobi as a proper Jedi in that book as well.
The Chosen One was,seemingly, Rey. She eliminated the Sith…thanks JJ canon fodder Abrams
JJ cannon fodder Abrams killed the last Skywalker then made Rey call herself Skywalker and called the movie the rise of Skywalker despite the line being extinct. Resurrected the emperor so that Anakin Skywalker wasn't the chosen one anymore.
He really dislikes the Skywalkers for some reason.
Gotta subvert those expectations!
That's Rian Johnson you're thinking of.
Ironically at this point, I think if he had been left in charge for the last film we would have gotten a way better conclusion than whatever the fuck Rise of Skywalker was. It was pretty heavily established Rey wasn't special by bloodline, but JJ wanted to make her a Palpatine for some stupid reason.
Non cannon Yoda casually kills a sith master who lands on degobah as after Yoda exiles himself there. It was supposed to be the origin of the dark side cave.
I remember reading the book for the first time and being blown away that Yoda offs this guy after he causes problems the whole book
Also to note is his death: he just leaves the living realm and becomes a force-ghost. This is like the bible equivalent of just ascending straight to heaven and becoming an angel.
I don't know if there's something more palpable than opinions in this matter, but my two cents would be Bastila. From the Legends, of course. The whole Battle Meditation thing could affect individuals or masses alike.
Can I then throw in Nomi Sunrider in there? She also had prowess in Battle Meditation (fun fact, Bastila was originally planned to be Nomi’s daughter for that reason), but also the natural ability to cut off others from the Force. She also rose to the rank of Grandmaster.
Damn, where was she in KOTOR? Would’ve been way OP.
Absolutely hilarious (and sad) story about that. While her daughter, Vima Sunrider, was supposed to be Bastila in KOTOR- BioWare renamed the character due to fear of a lawsuit from the Chrysler Automotive. It turns out “Sunrider” was the name of their trademarked removable Jeep roof.
What makes this extra bizarre is that BioWare probably could have won in court the right to use the Sunrider name since trademarks are industry-specific; but they decided to just avoid any type of legal dispute altogether.
So that’s why the Sunriders, who were the original Old Republic characters actually, were omitted from KOTOR.
Last year I actually made a KOTOR mod that restored Vima Sunrider as a companion in homage to her near-inclusion in the game.
Edit: someone asked where they can find my mod, and here it is. It’s actually quite a bit more than just Vima, it’s a new planet.
In your mod does she replace Bastilla or is she a new character?
New character! She replaces T3-M4. She also has her own voice-acted story and romance!
That sounds super cool man
Thank you! If the mod interests you, here it is: https://www.nexusmods.com/kotor/mods/1717?tab=files
Pretty sure there was some copyright issues with the name “Sunrider” iirc
Juke Skytalker disagrees
Names or titles can't be copywrote
Might've been trademark tho, they wouldn't be able to use her in advertising then and bastilia was pretty heavily in the marketing
Jolee Bindo actually references her at least once, telling Revan that they remind him of her.
Bastila was an absolute menace. Her descendant Satele ended up the same way, while not specifically using Battle Meditation, her saber skills, mastery and power through the force, etc etc still made her one of the best Grand Masters of her time. I guess that's what happen when your predecessors or Bastila and Revan.
The only other person I could think of that was feared by the Sith back in those times would probably have to be Revan. He's the only one aside from Ahsoka, at least from everything I've seen, that has successfully been able to be what everyone calls a Grey Jedi or probably the closest we've seen to the original Jed'daii before they split into what it is now. Not being swayed by either side, but still having mastery and influence over both.
Satele does briefly use Battle Meditation on SWTOR, during the fight with Revan and I believe also Tenebrae.
Though, I would honestly make the argument that only happened because Revan got completely mind-wiped by Bastilla.
I doubt Revan would ever turn back to the Light again when he wasn't mind-wiped. Granted, he did eventually regain all his memories back and still chose the Light in the end, but I would argue that's because Revan's mind wasn't being messed up by the Darkside 24/7 by this point. Despite what Kreia says in KOTOR II, I still firmly believe that Revan genuinely fell to the Darkside despite what Kreia makes it out to be a "self-sacrifice" from her former Padawan. She may have points, but I still wouldn't trust her at any point.
Wow, I didn't know that, thanks for this cool bit! And definitely, a Battle Meditation +5 Att/Pa, +10 Will saves, and a -20 debuff to any Force Ability used by any enemy in sight? Count me in!
Lol “palpable”
Depends on which time period… Old republic you’re probably looking at Revan after his return. Clone wars, either Kenobi for tactics, Skywalker for recklessness or Windu for swordplay. Then during the time of the Empire; Luke
I think it would be Yoda, all of them are scary but none are as strong as Yoda until Anakin reaches his full potential. Dooku literally the best lightsaber dualist in the universe ran away and Palpatine only got the upper hand because of order 66 and Yoda definitely being weakened by it and Yoda knowing this fight wasn't the end and he needed to survive.
In the novels, back then, Dooku and Sidious were scared shitless of the idea of Yoda turning to the Dark Side, and their plot to turn him around was more or less just to take him out from the Order, and then kill him asap.
Dooku was the greatest Form II master, but TCW says Yoda is the best duelist in the Jedi order (a story choice I disagree with, but it’s at least what the characters in canon believe).
I really don't like that and a character choice. I think Yoda should be beyond swinging a laser sword around
I think when Revan went BACK to vitiate and got captured I think the sith’s fear of him was replaced by them being absolutely pissed off with him because in their eyes he was holding them back. Revan was fighting vitiate in the mindscape and was holding vitiate back from attacking the republic.
Not to mention there was an open secret among the Sith that a Jedi Knight had killed Vitiate(the death of the emperor is later publicly confirmed although those in actual power know he wasn’t dead but doing his whole reincarnation thing), and taken out a couple of Dark Council members(more if any of the sidequest available to all republic classes were done by the Knight). If SWTOR is legend canon, as your post seems to imply, that likely makes that knight the most feared, being that thousands of Sith in the empire were aware of who he/she took down.
I’d like to throw Qui Gon into the mix during the Clone Wars era. Not for any of the reasons above, I just think Palpatine feared how different he was from the rest of the Jedi. He was probably the only Jedi that would have sniffed him out had he lived. He also may have prevented Anakin’s fall. Definitely the biggest what if scenario.
I’m definitely on that boat for Qui Gon preventing Anakin’s fall, even if he didn’t sniff out Palpatine directly he would’ve been a much better supporter than Obi Wan was. Qui Gon acted like a father, Obi Wan acted like an older brother/friend.
Tbh while Qui Gon would have been a better fit, I still think it’s likely that Anakin would have turned or at best left the Jedi order and his destiny behind. Anakin had so many emotional issues stemming from his slavery and upbringing, what he needed was not a brother or a father, he needed a therapist.
Yoda, a therapist was he not.
He needed both. But the core role of a father figure even more.
Is there stuff known about him besides the movie? What makes him so special?
It’s touched on in the movie a bit but he’s a very non traditional Jedi. He doesn’t agree with the council much and thinks the Jedi have strayed from their purpose. He isn’t far off from Dooku in that regard, though he is much more compassionate and moral. Duel of the Fates is literally a duel over Anakin’s fate, as Qui Gon’s death alters the trajectory of his training and upbringing as a Jedi.
Most of this is from other media, some canon and others not. He’s always been portrayed as some form of maverick though, bordering on gray Jedi in some ways.
There’s lots of speculation and discussion on what Qui Gon would have done had he lived and a lot of people think he’d have ended up leaving the order at the start of the war, or at least train Anakin in a way that would have prevented his downfall.
I’d say Revan. Not for power. But simply because Revan’s existence is a threat to the ideology of both Jedi and Sith.
Neither side wants people exercising free will, without their judgement slanted by their Force alignment.
Meetra Surik is worth considering imo
This is also a valid option, but I picked Revan simply because more people (in universe) have heard of Revan.
Revan is an ideological threat all the way into the Republic and beyond, because Revan is too large a part of history to be covered up.
Revan is proof that one can be aligned (or even just affiliated with) the Dark Side and still be a decent person. The Sith all aspire to use the power of the Dark side without being consumed by it, but how many of them actually manage that?
By reputation, sure, being that they were a Sith Lord, but as far as encountering a Jedi the Exile must be a nightmare: drawing on the force of others whilst also projecting the echoes of thousands of deaths in perpetuity.
Quite so.
I’m not sure how “canon” (what is canon anyway) Exile lore panned out in Old Republic, but as far as gameplay goes, I think it would be terrifying to meet a Jedi who’s unabashedly spamming Force Drain in combat.
Wasn't there also that Sith Lord who was basically just a businessman and Force lore nerd or something and died of old age surrounded by family and friends?
Honestly I’d love to see these stories explored in mainstream. We urgently need an anthology series.
Surik's my favorite char overall for that very reason, the Void Side let her do whatever the fuck she wants without any interference from the Force, the only thing is to watch out not to accidently brainwahs your allies...
Such a fascinating character concept, also being able to channel and resonate the force from those around her.
Revan soloed a member of the sith dark council after being drugged for 4 years. It was barely a fight. Post redemption revan is insane.
Yeah. Thats because (according to my play through) Revan was constantly high as balls on combat stimulants and adrenal supplements.
I mean after that, when revan and Mitra (the exile) meet up in the unknown regions before they try to take the emperor. (In the book Revan, which is legends now)
Yeah, but was Revan a badass because he’s a badass?
Or did he solo a member of the Dark Council simply because he wanted to rummage their pockets for drugs?
I would say Skywalker before he was consumed by emotions. Which is the reason kenobi was able to defeat him. He was the chosen one that was prophecy for thousands of years. He could take all of them. And I think (even if it’s not canon officially) palpatine only executed order 66 once he was assured Anakin was on his side. He wouldn’t do order 66 until Anakin was dealt with. Even palpatine feared him
Luke was effectively the only major Jedi fighting against them at that point anyway
Well they said of all time, so no it doesn't matter which time period...
Hard to say, but I’d choose among:
Legends Luke was an absolute beast
Well, he didn’t throw a tantrum and resort to drinking blue milk on an isolated island.
Ackhually, it is green milk, not blue XD.
Jokes aside, EU Luke has his favorite drink too. EU Luke loves chocolate milk. Lando was the one to introduce Luke to hot chocolate. After the Yuuzhan Vong War, the planets that supplied chocolate for the Galaxy were devastated so the drink became a rarity.
Damn me and my pitiful memory. 😂😂😂
I miss the EU, or most of it. My biggest grievance with the new canon is how they punked the New Republic.
I’ll never forgive Disney for taking the powerful and full of good Luke Skywalksr and turning him into a lost and broken cry baby.
Disney had a great roadmap they could have taken using Legends material. Instead they gave us the biggest pile of stinking hot garbage ever in Episode 7, 8, and 9.
Yea, Lord Hoth was my first call.
had to be new republic luke, right?
There wasnt any sith around to be scared of the guy lmao If it was just ‘most feared Jedi’ then yeah probably tho
I think they’re referring to the Legends incarnation of Luke. Both the Lost Tribe of the Sith and Darth Krayt’s One Sith stayed hidden during Luke’s active period as Grand Master for a reason.
Not in canon, but definitely in legends. Which sith exactly are scared of him in the current timeline?
Snoke and Ben are Sith adjacent (being manipulated by Palpatine) and they’re both terrified of Luke. It’s reasonable to assume that Palpatine would be too. Also I’m not sure if Exim Panshard was ever scared of Luke but he should have been.
no dude rey skywalker
She's all the jedi
But Whitney Houston is Every Woman
No. I'm every woman. I am.
Ik I'm afraid at the thought of her appearing in anymore movies
Rey who?
It would have to be Yoda no question
John Starwar
Darth Sith
Fuken Rey Skyhopper
Imm surprised not to see more people saying Yoda. Maybe I dont know enough about him but I would think simply by how long he lived / how strong he was there would be more stories about him. Didnt he live to be like 900 years old and basic training for every jedi after a certain point?
Id think the guy who is training all the guys and also as powerful as he was would make him someone to be feared.
Yoda was the quintessential jedi. And that includes being minimally involved in affairs around him. Yoda wasn't feared because he was a monk and master first, and a jedi Knight second.
Yeah but the question is over time. Realistically lets say he died at 900 so when we see him in the prequels he is like 875 years old?
What Im getting at is he had a long time for people to get to know him / fear him. By the time Sidious is iin full power Yodas fighting days were long behind him.
Also Im not really sure sith fear anything now that I think about it. Other than Luke who they didnt even really fear him they wanted to turn him. IDK
Lord Hoth seemed pretty feared by the Brotherhood of Darkness
Best Star Wars novel of all time. And definitely an incredible piece of literature. Masterpiece.
Ulic Qel-Droma
Probably Yoda. The Sith spent 1000 years in hiding. And while I’m sure some of that was trying to chip away at democracy and rebuild their resources, some of the reason they didn’t try to return sooner was because of Yoda.
Luke skywalker is probably number 2.
Feared? Yoda. Powerful? Legends grandmaster Luke.
Luke Skywalker. Because if Luke fails, or doesn't become a Jedi, then Palpatine wins and the empire lives on.
This is from the Sith perspective so they’d actually want this
Lonestar... oh wait wrong universe
Luke. Obviously.
He destroyed the Sith. He did not become one of them. He was the chosen one.
He entered a room, handcuffed, with both sidius and Vader, and walked out victorious.
He destroyed the Sith yes but he wasn’t the chosen one. He was the catalyst to bring the chosen one (Anakin) back to the light, bringing balance to the force and fulfilling the prophecy.
If we're talking Clone Wars, I think Mace Windu is being severely undersold here.
Yeah, you've got Jedi like Yoda, Obi-Wan, and Anakin running around, but Mace?
Mace will straight up kill a MF, and almost won against Palpatine.
Lucas himself has said that Mace had him beat, and Anakin interfering is the only reason Palpatine survived.
Yoda!
An excellently written series of his origin story would be something….
I see your Schwarz is as big as mine.
Luke then Yoda. If old republic then
Not sure about pre-Episode 1 lore, but my top three would be:
Honorable Mentions:
Anakin Skywalker: The biggest what-if character had he not been cooked alive in Mustafar after losing to Obi-Wan Kenobi. His force potential was untapped, probably even more so than Luke Skywalker.
Obi-Wan Kenobi: Against less experienced Sith Lords, Obi-Wan is a force of nature. He has had experience fighting Sith users before and during the clone wars. Although, against more powerful Sith users, Obi-Wan loses in both the force and in duels.
There was this one dude named Anakin, who kind of wiped out everybody. I don’t know if I had to guess I would think that it would be the scary monster who literally ended both, but you know that that’s just me.
Yoda, and its not even close. For reference, Dooku had a short glimpse of what a Dark Side Yoda could be in a book and it terrified him. Sidious who most claim to be the most powerfull Sith ever tried to run when Yoda came to him in RotS. I am sure he recognized what an unleashed DS Yoda could do.
I mean anyone not saying Luke is just wrong.
Think about looking at what happened from the outside in. He walked into a room alone with both Palpatine who is widely considered the strongest sith ever in history, and Vader who would have been stronger if he hadn't gotten burned.
Oh and he was in handcuffs when he went in.
And both of them died, while he walked out without a scratch.
If you don't have the audience's PoV from inside the room that is fucking terrifying.
Luke was the only man to walk in a room with Palp and Vader and walk out the only one alive.
I doubt you'll ever pinpoint just one, because that would require a lot of sith to admit they're all afraid of someone. That being said, there have been a lot of famous jedi that the sith have been wary to cross and even feared as a whole: Awdrysta Pina, Bastilla Shan, Revan, Satele shan, Ven Zallow, Lord Hoth. Kenobi, Mace Windu and Anakin were all highly feared by the separatists and by Palpatine, but at that point there were only 2 sith at a time, so its hard to count them as the most feared jedi ever
Jar jar
Gunray definitely feared him the most
Op said Jedi. Clearly jar jar is a sith. Have you not heard?
It would have to be in the old republic days simply because there were just not that many sith going forward. I suppose Legends Luke terrified 100% of all 1 or 2 sith that existed at that time, but that's not really 'most feared of all time' levels.
Probably Reven? There may be a legends character that was better, but there was a Jedi/Sith war going on so there were lots of Sith and they were not fond of that man.
Revan
Sj: gotta be my goat Obiwan the Red Saber Eliminator
Honestly, given how relieved palpatine was when he heard about him dying I’d say qui gon. Qui gon wasn’t a particularly physical threat to the Sith but the fact that he was a Jedi who wasn’t fully on board with the Jedi dogma was an absolute threat because the Sith, especially in the modern time of the mainline movies (but also in legends as shown in old republic media) very much relied on the Jedi’s unwillingness to veer from dogma and tradition as a means to exploit the predictable flaws said lack of flexibility causes.
That's only mentioned in the Legends book. There's no evidence in canon that Palpatine was particularly concerned about Qui-Gon. He didn't fear any of the Jedi until Yoda almost beat him.
And frankly, even if he had been super unconventional, which I don't think is really supported, why would Palpatine give a crap about one Jedi who isn't even on the council doing this or that? Plenty of Jedi were kind of doing their own thing at times. Nothing about that is particularly threatening to Palpatine.
Isn’t this dependent on the era? There would be several answers based on the period no?
Kenobi . He killed to Sith Lords.
I'd actually say Celeste Morne, because with the Muur Talisman she's basically a walking WMD, and her only goal in life is preventing the Talisman from falling into the wrong hands.
Dunno but this artwork is sick. What’s it depicting?
It’s the book cover for the High Republic finale: Trials of the Jedi.
Legends luke was an absolute beast! Honourable mention for Galen marek
I love how OP posted a picture of High Republic Jedi, and everyone is just bringing up Legends characters. 💀
Obi-won. Vader just hated him. Probably for all the injustices obi-won bestowed upon him.
Mace Windu
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EU Luke or Yoda
Mace Windu. Windu was scarier, a Jedi who walked the edge of the dark side and didn’t fall. With Vaapad, he turned a Sith’s own rage against them. fighting him meant battling your own darkness.
Between Bastila, Revan, Yoda, and Luke.
Bastila has her battle meditation, which is an incredibly rare force ability. Revan ended the Mandalorian Wars, and then defeated Darth Malak and destroyed the Star Forge. Yoda was the grandmaster of the Jedi Order for centuries. Luke is the Chosen One.
Depends on the era.
Modern Republic: Yoda.
Empire/New Republic: Luke Skywalker (partly by default).
New Sith Wars: Lord Hoth.
KOTOR era: a lot of people are saying Bastilla Shan but I think that prize really goes to the Jedi Exile. Sion and Nihilus turned the galaxy upside down just trying to destroy them.
Great Sith War: Nomi Sunrider
Luke in the EU Legends universe.
If it wasn't for the fall of the Jedi Order and the Republic, it should be Kenobi. He defeated 2 Sith Lords and 1 Sith trained 4 lightsaber wielding duelist. I'm not up on the new canon, but can you name another more successful Jedi? If there were other Jedi around to appreciate it, he would be legendary.
There were a couple from different eras.
Nomi Sunrider
Revan kinda
The Exile
Satele Shan
Lord Hoth
Yoda
And then, in both canon and EU, it's Luke.
In canon, Snoke was terrified of Luke's return, fearing that he could overturn their entire operation.
In Legends, Darh Krayt did EVERYTHING in his power to remain under Luke's radar and only emerged from his hideout after Luke was dead. On purpose if I remember correctly.
In Legacy, it's probably Kol Skywalker.
I nominate Qui Gon (feared by Granpapa Palps), Windu (Feared by the Senate), Revan, Bastilla Shan, the three most known Grandmasters, and Lord Hoth
I don’t think the Sith feared the Jedi at all. Because of the civilization they were I think they embraced the challenge the Jedi posed
fear is a huge part of the dark side. i could see the fresh rule of 2 sith having a lot of fear.
Legends/EU wise it'd probably be Lord Hoth given he was the one to lead the campaign that broke all the Sith Empires and warlord states at the end of the New Sith Wars.