I worked in a university office with that one AND a ditto machine (purple ink, lovely and probably poisonous smell). I think the ditto was electrical though.
With home made ink, and home made paper, presumably? I mean, I reckon I could make both, possibly better than your average person could, but it would be a massive pain, and the whole process is going to be *really* shitty.
It's -30°C where I am. Not having heat/power isn't just a minor inconvenience to make a game of, so I'm going to continue fulfilling my side of the utility contract so the power company fulfills theirs.
Pshaw if -30C is a problem for your kids they are fucked, F U C K E D. Teach them how to cut firewood, call it firewood camp and make it a game. Get them handwarmers as extra christmas presents, they will LOVE it and ask for the heat to be turned off all the time.
Humans figured out heat without power for 99.9% percent of our existence on this planet, if you can't figure it out now WAKE UP or we are F'd up the A! /s
Okay, encouraging people to live off grid is one thing. This is child abuse. If he's telling people that they should leave their families without heat, and lights, that's child abuse.
I wish I could say I made this up, but I once worked with someone who admitted they never pulled cheeks apart to wipe. According to them:
Wiping is even worse than showering and grooming in general, which itself is a tool used by women and homosexuals with the purpose of controlling access to sex and male emasculation/sissification, and also is a completely unnatural practice that no other species does and humanity did not do for the vast majority of it's existence on earth.
Wiping is even worse, not only is it being promoted with a goal of male emasculation like showering is, it's intended purpose is to normalize men touching and stimulating their anus, leading to more homosexual sissy men.
You would be unpleasantly surprised at how difficult it can be getting either the Bar or the DA's office to do anything on that front.
About 15 years ago, there was a guy who hung out in the courtroom almost every day. He had cards that he handed to people after court which said "Don't trust the elites! Have REAL representation in court from a REAL man!" It then gave his name and phone number. Under his name, it said "Legal Representative". He was neither a current lawyer nor a former lawyer.
I mean DAAAAAMN! If THAT is not shaking the hornet's nest just to count the stings, I don't know what is! I gave copies of those cards to both the state Bar and the local DA's office. Neither did a damn thing about it....
The California Bar sent BJW a letter warning him about operating what he was calling a law firm, but he hasn't stopped doing that. Reportedly not having complaints from his followers who suffered damages as a result of accepting his worthless legal advice is why further action hasn't been taken.
Right, let's lie to and gaslight your children and spouse because that's healthy, and for what, to change a normal relationship with utility companies and to not be a pussy?
He is insane and deserves every bad thing that happens to him.
I'm pretty sure that he's saying that if you are paying your bills, with real money, like you are supposed to do, that makes you a pussy. Most other comments here are dead-on.
Because to a lot of sovcits, they see it not working as a sign it is working. They think that the consequences for their choices (getting arrested, utilities shut off, repossessions, etc) means that "the system" is scared and retaliating to desperately get them to comply.
It's like when Andrew Tate got arrested for sex trafficking, but then shifted the blame onto the "matrix silencing him". You can turn anything into a win if you shift the blame in the right direction.
Before houses had electricity, they had some other means to keep warm (fireplaces, wood stoves, etc.). Many newer dwellings do not have these. Letting your home get cold is not good for your kids AND can cause problems like frozen pipes.
He is a sovereign citizen "guru" who sells expensive legal advice to his followers who invariably lose in court. He has also lost court cases to American Express and the Small Business Administration as well as his local utility company, all for not paying his debts. His best-known stunt was telling people how to buy cars on credit and then not pay for them. When his followers reported their free cars were being repossessed, he pivoted to telling them that was the idea all along and now they could sue the dealer, the lender, the towing company and so on. He has some odd racial views, he used to claim that only the descendants of freed slaves are U.S. citizens, but lately he's said U.S. citizens have to be white. He makes it up as he goes, and somehow his deluded followers stumble along behind him despite his frequent changes of course.
I'd rather be able to be warm at night and not have to lie to my kids. But if BJW's followers don't have electricity, how are they going to be able to read all his wonderful legal advice?
I’m sure what he is mostly devoted to is saying outlandish things so he can get attention. Don’t get me wrong, his ideas are nuts, but the act of yelling nonsense into the void is just marketing. Why? Because all of us are “buying” his product.
BJW claims to be leading a legal revolution despite having lost every court case he has been involved in. He recently went to court because the utility company wouldn't accept his bogus negotiable instrument as payment. He said he would provoke them into shutting off his utilities as that would allow him to file a devastating lawsuit that would break the whole system. He has had some serious judgements against him and apparently hasn't paid off those judgements which suggests he doesn't have enough property to make it worthwhile to try to collect.
Laughing as I read this while it’s -25 outside today. Not having utilities is not a viable choice where I live. Your waterlines would freeze as would you. I’d like to see him be a pussy up here.
This goes beyond SovCit idiocy because the typical SovCit wants to have the benefits of modern civilization but thinks that they have a secret trust fund that will cover their expenses OR have discovered loop holes that permit them to drive without insurance or a license because they are "traveling" or citizens of some strange place with a passport which they show the police if stopped.
This guy isn't claiming that people are asking mercy from the Utility company because they have a family because as far as I know having a family doesn't prevent your utilities from being turned off although I think there are some states which don't permit heat to be turned off in the winter.
How far is he willing to take his argument - go without a car because cars are unnecessary?
Go without food because purchasing food supports a corrupt system?
He is beyond even the insanity of the average SovCit because to a great extent those people seem to be driven by the illusion of getting something for nothing and don't want to lose the ability to drive or lose their home to foreclosure. And I imagine that a significant percentage of them are driven by some level of economic desperation
And what's the end game? Just live without power? And what happens on really hot or cold days? Also you will probably be kicked out of your house for that or have your kids taken away. This guy is such a sick, twisted piece of shit
Work in collections for an electric company. Have a love/hate relationship with SovCits. I love not capitulating to their nonsense and they hate that I know what they’re trying to do.
I'm so confused what he's trying to advocate. To be a man and NOT pay your bills or take care of your family? Get out of jail free card? I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this guy is dumb
So he isn't a pussy by refusing to pay for the utilities that he uses, but he is enough of a pussy that he has to lie to his kids and set up schemes to distract them rather than being honest with them?
And if you're living in Wisconsin or Minnesota or the Dakotas or Wyoming or Montana just to name a few States, and your utilities are shut off in the summer and never turned back on, you're going to freeze and die. There are laws preventing utilities from shutting utilities off in the winter, but there's nothing forcing them to turn them back on. I'm sure the kids will have lots of fun with hypothermia and frostbite until they die.
We all know BJW has shit for brains, but he usually doesn't make it this obvious.
Am I misreading this or are you guys? Isn’t he saying if you don’t pay, you don’t get, so don’t use this as an excuse not to pay, rather than encouraging to “live off the grid”?
Also I have no idea who this is, so apologies if he is a sovcit actually saying to go back to the dark ages.
I thought “be effective” as in go back to work and make money to pay the bills. If that’s the case, that’s nice, if only things like jobs pay sufficient amount to pay them in the first place or that there is enough jobs for everyone these days
He's a sovcit who charges for his advice. He's mad that people would rather pay their bills over taking his advice to send convoluted letters to utilities companies demanding free electricity.
For him, "be effective" means don't pay your bills. His ilk like to think if enough people stop paying their bills we would all magically get free electricity somehow.
He thinks he can “pay” the bill by using some method of signing the payment coupon the utility company sends him, so paying without writing a check, using a credit/debit card, etc. He wants other people to do this so the utility companies deny that alternative payment, get their utilities shut off then sue for damages caused by them not accepting these other payments that he argues are legal and valid. But if you don’t get your utilities shut off, you don’t have damages you can claim in court. He’s currently suing his local utility company and had been paying his bills the “normal” way but the court said he had no damages so he claims now that he’s stopped paying the bill. I’m not sure I believe that.
How does one print the bogus flyers (for free, because these people don't pay for shit) without electricity?
Hand-cranked mimeograph machine. Don’t ask me how I know 🤣
I used to do this. Used to sing to the shuffle rhythm it made.
I bet it was really exciting for you when the Marconi machine came out.
You know what was exciting? When the radio turned colour!
Smellivision
I remember those from middle school and high school. I'll never forget the smell!
Oh, that wonderful smell! We should have died of cancer decades ago from all the stuff we were exposed to as kids...
I think we're immune now
Sniff sniff
I worked in a university office with that one AND a ditto machine (purple ink, lovely and probably poisonous smell). I think the ditto was electrical though.
With home made ink, and home made paper, presumably? I mean, I reckon I could make both, possibly better than your average person could, but it would be a massive pain, and the whole process is going to be *really* shitty.
Potatoes?
I remember making construction paper for an art class project in elementary school! It stank so bad.
Remember the smell of it when it first got printed? Man, that smell was awesome!
The scene in Fast Times where everyone smells their papers at once is hilarious.
The way Gutenberg intended
Let alone see in the dark, I doubt these children could read.
Let me guess, Glendale Water and Power wouldn't take his "payment" again?
More like he's mad that some of his followers are choosing to pay their bills instead of paying him for his "teachings"
It's -30°C where I am. Not having heat/power isn't just a minor inconvenience to make a game of, so I'm going to continue fulfilling my side of the utility contract so the power company fulfills theirs.
Pshaw if -30C is a problem for your kids they are fucked, F U C K E D. Teach them how to cut firewood, call it firewood camp and make it a game. Get them handwarmers as extra christmas presents, they will LOVE it and ask for the heat to be turned off all the time.
Humans figured out heat without power for 99.9% percent of our existence on this planet, if you can't figure it out now WAKE UP or we are F'd up the A! /s
It's going to be nice here this week, but I'd rather still be able to be warm at night without being wrapped in a blanket.
Okay, encouraging people to live off grid is one thing. This is child abuse. If he's telling people that they should leave their families without heat, and lights, that's child abuse.
He's an evil fscker.
Most Amish would disagree.
TIL caring about your family makes you a pussy.
/s
Sounds like something an "alpha male" manosphere-type guy would say. You know, the same ones who say that wiping your ass is gay.
I’m still trying to wrap my head around the “not wiping my ass” thing (whilst sitting on the toilet using my bidet like a the big queen I am).
I wish I could say I made this up, but I once worked with someone who admitted they never pulled cheeks apart to wipe. According to them:
Wiping is even worse than showering and grooming in general, which itself is a tool used by women and homosexuals with the purpose of controlling access to sex and male emasculation/sissification, and also is a completely unnatural practice that no other species does and humanity did not do for the vast majority of it's existence on earth.
Wiping is even worse, not only is it being promoted with a goal of male emasculation like showering is, it's intended purpose is to normalize men touching and stimulating their anus, leading to more homosexual sissy men.
I don't know. It's thoroughly disgusting.
Didn't you know that enjoying sex with women makes you gay?
So, you're saying it's gay to be straight.
Yep, according to that Andrew Tate douchebag. Sex with a woman for anything other than procreation makes you gay. I don't get it either, lol
It's hip to be square too
CPS should be paying this parent a visit. Soon.
And why isn’t he being charged with the unauthorized practice of law??
You would be unpleasantly surprised at how difficult it can be getting either the Bar or the DA's office to do anything on that front.
About 15 years ago, there was a guy who hung out in the courtroom almost every day. He had cards that he handed to people after court which said "Don't trust the elites! Have REAL representation in court from a REAL man!" It then gave his name and phone number. Under his name, it said "Legal Representative". He was neither a current lawyer nor a former lawyer.
I mean DAAAAAMN! If THAT is not shaking the hornet's nest just to count the stings, I don't know what is! I gave copies of those cards to both the state Bar and the local DA's office. Neither did a damn thing about it....
The California Bar sent BJW a letter warning him about operating what he was calling a law firm, but he hasn't stopped doing that. Reportedly not having complaints from his followers who suffered damages as a result of accepting his worthless legal advice is why further action hasn't been taken.
Too bad. If a FORMER lawyer were doing this exact same thing, there'd be on him like ugly on a baboon's ass....
Yes. According to the Bar, they send a cease & desist letter after a single complaint. They need multiple complaints to take further action.
Right, let's lie to and gaslight your children and spouse because that's healthy, and for what, to change a normal relationship with utility companies and to not be a pussy?
He is insane and deserves every bad thing that happens to him.
It's not gaslighting because the gas company shut that off, too.
Damn...Didn't think of that....
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I'm pretty sure that he's saying that if you are paying your bills, with real money, like you are supposed to do, that makes you a pussy. Most other comments here are dead-on.
But then, the only alternative is to have your utilities cut off, which seems to be what he's implying. As in, their magic spells don't work.
Well, if anyone would know, he would.
At the moment it’s currently 29 degrees out
Apparently his vision of the future is like 1911?
Tonight we're going to party like it's 1899...
Why would you put your kids thru that? They didnt choose your deadbeat way of life.
He probably thinks children are property too.
Billy Joe Williams is too much of a pussy to hold down a real job, support his family, and pay his bills.
If memory serves he is the owner or part owner of a landscaping company. I'm surprised Amex hasn't gone after that after beating him in court.
If his shit works, why worry about the power getting cut off?
Because to a lot of sovcits, they see it not working as a sign it is working. They think that the consequences for their choices (getting arrested, utilities shut off, repossessions, etc) means that "the system" is scared and retaliating to desperately get them to comply.
It's like when Andrew Tate got arrested for sex trafficking, but then shifted the blame onto the "matrix silencing him". You can turn anything into a win if you shift the blame in the right direction.
Two things who is this guy and I’m almost fairly sure most people had power in 1911
Before houses had electricity, they had some other means to keep warm (fireplaces, wood stoves, etc.). Many newer dwellings do not have these. Letting your home get cold is not good for your kids AND can cause problems like frozen pipes.
Plumbing in most houses didn't get added until after electricity was available anyways.
Don’t need to worry about the pipes when the water’s turned off!
Good point!
1: Some random Sovcit guru
2: Most cities did, towns out in the frontier, did not.
My hometown didn't get electricity until 1934.
He is a sovereign citizen "guru" who sells expensive legal advice to his followers who invariably lose in court. He has also lost court cases to American Express and the Small Business Administration as well as his local utility company, all for not paying his debts. His best-known stunt was telling people how to buy cars on credit and then not pay for them. When his followers reported their free cars were being repossessed, he pivoted to telling them that was the idea all along and now they could sue the dealer, the lender, the towing company and so on. He has some odd racial views, he used to claim that only the descendants of freed slaves are U.S. citizens, but lately he's said U.S. citizens have to be white. He makes it up as he goes, and somehow his deluded followers stumble along behind him despite his frequent changes of course.
In the words of Bea Arthur he’s a bullshit artist
BJW, stop BJing yourself.
This is top tier bait, I love it.
I'd rather be able to be warm at night and not have to lie to my kids. But if BJW's followers don't have electricity, how are they going to be able to read all his wonderful legal advice?
Pretty sure this guy lives in California, where not having utilities isn't exactly the life or death decision it is everywhere else.
I’m sure what he is mostly devoted to is saying outlandish things so he can get attention. Don’t get me wrong, his ideas are nuts, but the act of yelling nonsense into the void is just marketing. Why? Because all of us are “buying” his product.
Reminds me of someone living on Pennsylvania Ave.
Oh, I agree. He’s rage baiting, 100%. And it works, because when I read his bullshit posts, they aggravate me.
I bet the power is on at his house
I mean...they have a point. If you're not going to take part in society, don't benefit from it either.
It's a stupid take, but at least they're consistent in their stupidity.
Just how is getting my electricity cut off going to make my kids lives better in the long run??
BJW claims to be leading a legal revolution despite having lost every court case he has been involved in. He recently went to court because the utility company wouldn't accept his bogus negotiable instrument as payment. He said he would provoke them into shutting off his utilities as that would allow him to file a devastating lawsuit that would break the whole system. He has had some serious judgements against him and apparently hasn't paid off those judgements which suggests he doesn't have enough property to make it worthwhile to try to collect.
Laughing as I read this while it’s -25 outside today. Not having utilities is not a viable choice where I live. Your waterlines would freeze as would you. I’d like to see him be a pussy up here.
This goes beyond SovCit idiocy because the typical SovCit wants to have the benefits of modern civilization but thinks that they have a secret trust fund that will cover their expenses OR have discovered loop holes that permit them to drive without insurance or a license because they are "traveling" or citizens of some strange place with a passport which they show the police if stopped.
This guy isn't claiming that people are asking mercy from the Utility company because they have a family because as far as I know having a family doesn't prevent your utilities from being turned off although I think there are some states which don't permit heat to be turned off in the winter.
How far is he willing to take his argument - go without a car because cars are unnecessary?
Go without food because purchasing food supports a corrupt system?
He is beyond even the insanity of the average SovCit because to a great extent those people seem to be driven by the illusion of getting something for nothing and don't want to lose the ability to drive or lose their home to foreclosure. And I imagine that a significant percentage of them are driven by some level of economic desperation
And what's the end game? Just live without power? And what happens on really hot or cold days? Also you will probably be kicked out of your house for that or have your kids taken away. This guy is such a sick, twisted piece of shit
"Putting your family's well-being first makes you a pussy" - A single, childless man
If you can, do, if you can’t, be a sovcit guru
It turns out this guy also has great parenting advice:
"Fuck your kids's lives to impress me."
It’s so transparent how the fear of shame and humiliation makes people say and do dumb shit like this
What I find sad are the people in his comments rushing to agree with him when he says truly idiotic shit
Work in collections for an electric company. Have a love/hate relationship with SovCits. I love not capitulating to their nonsense and they hate that I know what they’re trying to do.
I'm so confused what he's trying to advocate. To be a man and NOT pay your bills or take care of your family? Get out of jail free card? I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this guy is dumb
Anything but just paying the fucking utility bill 😆
I could pay my bill, BUT, if I don't, then they will shut off my power, and then I get to sue!
Sovcits...always inventing their own problems so they can find ways to make them worse.
If I pay my bill, then how will I antagonize the bill collector into talking to me, thus activating my Fee Schedule😍
So he isn't a pussy by refusing to pay for the utilities that he uses, but he is enough of a pussy that he has to lie to his kids and set up schemes to distract them rather than being honest with them?
Well…he doesn’t have kids 🤣
Hates authority. Acts like hes the authority. What a loser
Oh, I get it now! This guy's completely nuts!
How did I guess the guy was going to be named Brandon?
It turns out this guy also has great parenting advice:
"Fuck your kids's lives to impress me."
How does BJW post this shit without utilities?
And if you're living in Wisconsin or Minnesota or the Dakotas or Wyoming or Montana just to name a few States, and your utilities are shut off in the summer and never turned back on, you're going to freeze and die. There are laws preventing utilities from shutting utilities off in the winter, but there's nothing forcing them to turn them back on. I'm sure the kids will have lots of fun with hypothermia and frostbite until they die.
We all know BJW has shit for brains, but he usually doesn't make it this obvious.
He has utilities. He’s claiming he stopped paying because he wants them to get cut off so he can sue.
1911? Oh, 31 years after the light bulb was invented.
Tell your kids that one will get polio and they other will die of scarlet fever. That's more 1911.
So basically have Zombie Apocalypse drills for your kids? 🧟🧒
Am I misreading this or are you guys? Isn’t he saying if you don’t pay, you don’t get, so don’t use this as an excuse not to pay, rather than encouraging to “live off the grid”?
Also I have no idea who this is, so apologies if he is a sovcit actually saying to go back to the dark ages.
I thought “be effective” as in go back to work and make money to pay the bills. If that’s the case, that’s nice, if only things like jobs pay sufficient amount to pay them in the first place or that there is enough jobs for everyone these days
He's a sovcit who charges for his advice. He's mad that people would rather pay their bills over taking his advice to send convoluted letters to utilities companies demanding free electricity.
For him, "be effective" means don't pay your bills. His ilk like to think if enough people stop paying their bills we would all magically get free electricity somehow.
He thinks he can “pay” the bill by using some method of signing the payment coupon the utility company sends him, so paying without writing a check, using a credit/debit card, etc. He wants other people to do this so the utility companies deny that alternative payment, get their utilities shut off then sue for damages caused by them not accepting these other payments that he argues are legal and valid. But if you don’t get your utilities shut off, you don’t have damages you can claim in court. He’s currently suing his local utility company and had been paying his bills the “normal” way but the court said he had no damages so he claims now that he’s stopped paying the bill. I’m not sure I believe that.
Is this Sov Cit or just some asshole?
Show your kids how boring it was ... it'll be fun, they'll love it!