If Charizard’s fair can spike, how can it impact the meta?
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  • 153 points RazorRell09

    He might arguably get a little worse. Depending on when and where the move starts spiking, you lose a valuable combo tool. Back air is a good enough kill option as is, doesn’t NEED another

    Though, it’d make him more hype for sure

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  • 411 points ConduckKing

    Charizard gets banned to NU- wait, wrong game

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    43 points Weird_Meet_9148

    ZUBL at best, let's be honest

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    9 points mhwwad

    That’s my favorite Digital Circus character

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    7 points ATangerineMann

    Maybe it becomes better in Gen 3 OU

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    5 points mcqtom

    tfw the best Pokemon games occured between the invention of Stealth Rocks and the invention of Heavy Duty Boots

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  • 58 points TTarion

    Why would Charizard want it to spike?

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    52 points OneSaucyDragon

    Hype factor

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    15 points yearningforpurpose

    We got hype moments and aura

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    1 points Nyan-Binary-UwU

    Hype moments and aura

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    -50 points [deleted]

    [deleted]

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    30 points RobertrulezDa1st

    Its a claw slash, it doesn't look like a spike. Banjos looks more like a spike

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    55 points retrorapture

    no, no it doesn't

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    11 points Albatros_7

    No ?

    Doctor Mario's and Ganon's do, clearly not Charizard's

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    3 points DaTruPro75

    for doc, at least they have the excuse that it is to differentiate him from mario, giving the sweetspot a different role as it can kill from on stage, but kills later (i think)

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  • 18 points SorenCelerity

    Would love to see a mod that makes it so that every move sends in the direction that would realistically make the most sense. Like, all the downwards swipes sending downwards.

    Would make the game play completely differently lol

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    12 points DaTruPro75

    gordo and patooie become even better projectiles cause they spike if moving downwards, which is almost all the time offstage lol

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    2 points Yoate

    Samus becomes the most annoying edgeguarder, as now normal rockets and bombs will send you downward off stage

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    1 points Twich8

    The CHAO5 mod does do this for a lot of moves, though it obviously changes a ton of other things too 

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  • 8 points Bocephus-the-goat

    down throw -> forward air near the ledge = almost guaranteed kill at 40.

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  • 6 points Xaroin

    Ferrothorn gets added as a playable character and goes after every single Fire Emblem character post-Awakening for being gay

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    6 points anonymoustheyanmega

    252+ Atk Roy Flare Blade vs. 252 HP / 80+ Def Ferrothorn: 936-1104 (265.9 - 313.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

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  • 5 points MVPtheMichael

    Could*

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    2 points yungScooter30

    OP doesn't know conditional mood smh

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  • 2 points adamaserb

    no change

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  • 2 points SuchLetterhead1960

    charizard fair is already so strong, an easy kill option. a spike might nerf it tbh

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  • 1 points Moysause

    Could* would*

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  • 1 points ty_rec

    It wouldn’t, might even make him worse as a character

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  • 1 points SixTailedSaiken

    Lowkey the presence of a spike or not, if your not as a whole broken beyond relief like the top 10's that won't change anything for him. Presence of one move quality changing/being added like that doesn't make or break a character (Unless it's egregious like Pyra or Ivy's).

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  • 1 points Liquid_Pidgeon

    People would play pokemon trainer more

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  • 1 points NioXoiN

    Be a funny 2 frame

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  • 1 points DaBoy2187

    spiking might make it a bit worse, maybe if the angle was a sakurai angle then it would possibly be crazy

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  • 1 points Afraid_Leopard_5055

    chaos theory ahh post

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