Fun fact: you can act after Incineroar's up b I'm pretty sure, you just need to go far enough that it doesn't touch a platform or the blastzone, someone please fact check tho cuz I could be wrong.
the reason jigglypuff and yoshi are in a separate tier is because while their up specials dont put them into free fall, they dont necessarily have the right type of up b
Its different from brawl where for characters who had tether up specials (being Ivysaur, Olimar, ZSS but the former two) would be sent into freefall if they use it even once but Ultimate changed it so if you use a tether midair, you wont be sent in freefall and can use it again along with any moves (tho I'd say Joker goes into the debatable tier since without arsene he has tether recovery but with it he has a completely different up special that does put him in freefall)
Up special lets you do an action after
yup 👍
Missed olimar and all tethers, not sure if more
Wow i saw a buch of misserable to play against characters 😅
Up special doesn't put you into free fall
Yoshi isn't debatable but Jigglypuff is
You can jump and do attacks after using sing
Jigglypuff's debatable because of how Sing isn't really a recovery move imo, sorry that wasn't clear.
i don’t think anyone thinks sing is a recovery move lmao
That was me explaining why I think Jigglypuff is debatable lol
yep
That shouldn't be a yep, Sora's and Duck Hunt's up-b do make you got into freefall, it's more specific than that
Prob just “can act out after upb”
Fun fact: you can act after Incineroar's up b I'm pretty sure, you just need to go far enough that it doesn't touch a platform or the blastzone, someone please fact check tho cuz I could be wrong.
This is true
This is true, you often use side special after up special for recovery
Live birth v. Egg-laying
3 robots and 1 turtle how does that work?
who’s the third robot? does BJR’s clown car count? is g&w a robot?
Eyes
yep
"vroom vroom go fast" ?
nope
Shouldn’t Sora be in debatable? Like sure you can use Side-B after but that’s ALL you can do, else you get put into free fall
the reason jigglypuff and yoshi are in a separate tier is because while their up specials dont put them into free fall, they dont necessarily have the right type of up b
Nah Yoshi's gets a bit of height still
I think the confusion is because Egg Throw couldn’t give any height in 64, Melee and some mods.
I was thinking sick recoveries
Fixed version
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Junior should also be debatable because all you can do is the hammer swing move and a neutral airdodge
Well byleth and other characters who have tethers dont go in freefall for using up specials too
tether
Its different from brawl where for characters who had tether up specials (being Ivysaur, Olimar, ZSS but the former two) would be sent into freefall if they use it even once but Ultimate changed it so if you use a tether midair, you wont be sent in freefall and can use it again along with any moves (tho I'd say Joker goes into the debatable tier since without arsene he has tether recovery but with it he has a completely different up special that does put him in freefall)
All of them beat Dedede
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Up Bs that still allow you to perform actions.
(And tbh, that’s 11 too many)
move kazuya down and it's "have canonically reproduced"
Can act out of Up B. It’s not no helpless because duck hunt is here, but olimar should also be here.