That's kind of crazy since more people watch the Game Awards than the Super Bowl. The Super Bowl is an American thing whereas TGA is international, but still.
I've known what GOTY stood for since I bought... I think it was Fallout 3's GOTY edition a couple years back (probably circa 2017). Never felt the need to know more than that.
But hey! If it can get more traffic to Silksong, I'm all for it. Game deserves it.
100%. The ones who truly won were our Steam libraries. Imagine Silksong, E33, Hades 2, and the others in your library for the cost of one quintuple-A "remastered legendary collector's edition?"
the thing is even if i didnt know silksong or exp33 i would always choose silksong first since i like that genre just so much more so im not really sure what the award is supposed to say since those games are trying to be something completely different idk
Like every awards show. Getting all invested in the arbitrary winners of arbitrary categories is a great way to wind yourself up over something that absolutely does not matter.
not really, cus oscars tend to have more actual competition to see who might win. with tga its a shoe-in every year. and when it isnt, its cus that year was dogshit for games.
Only thing I think was questionable was putting E33 in the indie category at all.
Not even questionable imo, just straight up shouldn't have been there. Their wiki page clearly outlines the significant impact Kepler publishing the game had on their development.
After securing funding from Kepler, Sandfall:
more than quadrupled their number of employees, going from a 6 person studio to ~30
could afford outsourcing to multiple other development groups for combat animations, quality assurance and help with porting the game
hired mocap artists, musicians, and even celebrity voice actors.
The game was made with an imo, pretty modest budget of 10 million for the quality of game they released but, it is undeniable that the game's development was significantly altered by getting a publisher to fund development, which as far as I'm concerned disqualifies it from being an indie title.
Well, yeah, if people didn't like the show, it wouldn't have won. The reason it won was because it was by popular vote. I just think that critically speaking, it was not good.
I agree it was well produced, but other than that I don't think it really has anything going for it. Even the fights in the show are kind of weak and repetitive. The fights on their own are good, but they are by and large the same 2-3 fights over and over again. And this is the show's strength. The story and character are really bad. I say character and not characters because I wouldn't say this show has more than one character.
Honestly that's what hurts the most, it feels like they were intentionally baiting HL3 copers this time around. I swear to god it wasn't copium, HALF LIFE 3 WAS PROMISED TO ME 21 YEARS AGO!!
Lol yep, no more Silksong so back to baiting the OG never ever. What happened to all those small Australian indie devs that seem to appear at these shows.
Yup. They put a very highly funded game with a pretty large dev team that is definitely closer to AAA than indie in both indie categories and it stole the indie category awards from actual indie games.
Slop opinions? I’m sorry but that is just so stupid to say. Tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of gamers share the same opinion as many of the recipients of awards during the TGA. You might find it to be slop but that doesn’t mean it is for everyone else.
True, there were quite some good games revealed and also a lot of letdowns, thankfully as a total war fan I keep winning. But this particular year was kinda awfull, nothing wrong against E33, I do think they deserve most of the awards, but it was not a fun experience, hopefully they change some rules so this doesn't happen again.
The "judges" are all critic outlets, aren't they? Giant Bomb, IGN, Polygon, PCGamer, etc. Each outlet "votes" as a bloc, but the ones determining how that vote goes are still the critics at the end of the day. Your "industry leaders" comment makes it sound like the ones voting are like Ubisoft/Nintendo/EA/Activision which is not true.
The goal of the VGA has nothing to do with being deserving or not. It's a presentation to the public on how the game industry is totes the best, everything is find and we are all growing. That actually good games beloved by the masses got the win is incidental.
You mean to tell me Silksong winning Action/Adventure game is slop opinion? Damn, that's harsh, didn't think the game wasn't even deserving of the one award granted to it...
No? The voters have no idea what’s going to win the other categories. Voters gave Silksong best action adventure because they thought it was the best and wanted it to have that award. Geoff’s comment was joke about how TC said they wouldn’t win anything.
Let's talk about how The Game Awards don't matter. Another thread expressing my disinterest in the Game Awards will really add to a subreddit that is currently talking about nothing but the Game Awards. LET ME POST ABOUT HOW LITTLE I CARE AGAIN!
If you don't care, just don't post. Simple as that.
Wasn't really shade. He literally just said that because the devs said they didnt expect to win any awards due to e33 being there.
So thats why he said it when they won.
This is salty as hell not gonna lie. Let's not pretend you guys didn't care from the start because that's obviously not the case. Nevermind how people only started going "E33 isn't even indie" AFTER they got both indie awards.
Nevermind how people only started going "E33 isn't even indie" AFTER they got both indie awards.
People have been saying this since the noms were announced. It was such a big conversation that the E33 devs themselves responded and said they don't feel like they qualify as indie either.
This i what always makes me laugh every game awards. Year start "Game awards are a joke who even cares about them", game comes out and is reviewed well "We win game of the year for sure, this game was awesome and its obvious that it will win and show everyone how amazing this game i like is", game loses "Uh actually the Game awards is stupid and never mattered". Repeat cycle next game. Happens everytime and shows how dumb and salty gamers are.
the cope is hilarious. “tga doesn’t like 2d games” “TGA hates indie games” “E33 isn’t an indie game” “TGA is salty because TC didn’t go” “TGA is rigged and meaningless” lmao
The first line you're right, it is kinda hypocrite ngl. Now, about E33, people have been saying it is not an indie since it was announced as one. And I think a good portion thought the prizes would go for "indie-er" games and not the obvious AA option, which was not the case leading to the current situation
The part about E33 is wrong tho, ever since they got nominated you always had people complain that they aren't indie in every single post that mentioned this fact.
I've never seen the internet so mad about TGA before. Even though Silksong is my personal favorite for the year, I think E33 deserved almost every single award it got. It's one of a kind.
That's the one point I agree with. TGA selects a group of games that fit a category, and then picks the best game out of that category. Instead, they should pick the game that is the best representative of that category.
For example, Silksong should have had a large advantage in the indie category simply based on how small the team was. KCD2 also really pushed the limits of what people expect an RPG to be capable of. Even though I think E33 is overall a better game than those two, it doesn't feel like the right choice for those particular categories.
But my bigger takeaway is how happy I am for the people on the E33 team who came out of nowhere, poured their entire heart and soul into their project, absolutely nailed it, and get recognized. Seeing Lorien's passion for music take him from Soundcloud to the TGA main stage in under two years is inspiring.
Well yeah, the sub cares, but the post says Team Cherry? This is specifically meant to get the sub to calm down about it, BECAUSE the developers don't care.
Lowk the game awards people were butt hurt (they were hating on Silksong. they had passive aggressive remarks when Silksong won, they were hating on Silksong even in songs, and trobbigoat only had a second of screen time)
They have a weird focus on 3d titles. Iirc even when Metroid Dread came out and it got praised everywhere it got let down heavily and people were talking about how 2d titles rarely get as much attention at TGA as 3d ones.
An indie game can only win goty, if it's not inde, but backed by a publisher and few dozen milion usd lol.
I don't have anything agaist E33, in fact it's one of my favourite games of all time, however calling it an indie game just shows how completely out of touch are "critics" responsible for the awards lol.
Maybe they mean in Miss Piggy’s song, “we waited so long for Donkey Kong Bananza and Peak and Death Stranding 2 and… the very very delayed SilkSong.”?
Though that made our game the most highlighted in that song, and it wasn’t in a negative light, but I missed the context initially too so it’s possible they misunderstood too.
It’s funny how upset yall are and all the shit yall are pulling out of thin air because the show didn’t go exactly as yall want. Nobody was throwing shade, nobody was passive aggressive and nobody was hating. It’s not that deep.
Yeah dude. People really going "TGA and Geoff Keighley are SP salty dude I swear they are SUPER salty dude they did this just because they're mad low-key i SWEAR dude I'm not just coping dude I SWEAR"
Tbf, A LOT of posts in this sub was hyping silksong as goty competition against exp33. Especially before release. "Silksong took so long because the devs were in development heaven? GOTY, WATCH OUT EXP 33"
The only true major fuckup. How the FUCK does wuthering waves win over the other FANTASTIC games on that list???? I'm forever a skonger and enjoy Metroidvania combat way more than the turn based repetitive thing E33 was, but so many people loved it. How did it, or something else, not win?!
Wukong won last year, Baldur's Gate won 2023, Genshin won 2022, Halo Infinite won 2021, Ghost of Tsushima won 2020. 2/6 wins have been gacha games, which is maybe a little bit inflated, but it's nowhere near the "literally every year" narrative I keep seeing people spread.
How is E33 not an indie game? It's made by an independent studio and published by an independent publisher. Just because it's on par with what AAA should be does not suddenly make it not an indie game.
Sybau it is an indie game whether you want to admit it or not. Their budget was smaller than TC earnings from Hollow Knight, fuck outta here with your delusional “it’s a non-indie” ass.
To some extent the games with the most wide appeal are going to win based on the size of the voting group. This is more than 100 groups voting together to determine what games they enjoyed. Silksong is a 2D Metroidvania/platformer with an indirectly told story, that most importantly was very difficult. It’s not a surprise that it appeals to less players than a story based game with a unique style. The fact it was competing at that level proves its quality
Skong didn't loose. It's a made up award given by a few biased critics. Skong doesn't need no award. Skong is strong on It's own, i mean it fucking broke all online game stores when it released.
Would it? I am really interested to learn about your psychic abilities because you seem to know a lot about what other people would do if something different happened. …except if you talk out of your ass, but you certainly weren't doing that, right? Right?
To expand on that: a lot of people despised TGA way before Silksong release date even got announced. Pretending like the only reason they continue to despise it is Silksong losing is disingenuous.
I haven't played Silksong, but I came here today because TGA pissed me off with this shit. I'm 27. I cannot recall abother game that crashed MULTIPLE GAME SALE PLATFORMS ON RELEASE. How did Silksong only get 1 award?
Team Cherry is quite unlucky and fell one a huge year one both release, 2017 had Breath of the Wild and 2025 had E33, meanwhile in 2024 Astro Bot won 😂
I think HK had more impact on gaming than most nominees, considering how this game launched the trend of Metroidvania, but some years are harder than other
Pretty sure Metroid and Castlevania launched the Metroidvania genre but weren t the one making this genre a trend at the end of the 2010s and the start of the 2020s by bringing new players and inspiring new devs
Honestly Astro Bot is a ton of fun. I gave it a try after it won and could see why people enjoy it. Reminds me of when I was little booting up Mario 64.
Real talk? As a long time Zelda fan, BotW is way overrated. They lost a lot of the Zelda charm in the process of making it open world. E33 is great, though. I definitely disagree that Astro Bot isn't art, though. 3D platformers get shit on way too often. Bananza was also fantastic this year.
You can find BotW in so many games, the paravoile and the endurance system obviously, but I think it really affected many open worlds after it. From what I saw, Astro Bot felt a lot like the Mario Odissey of PlayStation.
And Odyssey was also art. Bananza feels like it took all of the best ideas from it and BotW and mashed it together, and I really enjoyed it.
I think there are a lot of good things BotW, but also a lot of things that deviated a lot from classic Zelda games. Their Divine Beasts, for example, were awful in comparison to classic dungeons like Forest or Fire Temple from OOT. I also deeply dislike the durability system, it felt intrusive and tedious.
Oh, yeah, 90% sure Silksong would win in 2024. Also, this sub loved caring about goty and silksong competing with exp 33 for goty, until it lost yesterday. Now its "whatever, only lost cause it's 2d 🙄"
Yeah this year was stacked. I feel like multiple games this year would have won if they came out last year. E33, Silksong, and DK Bananza all would have beat Astrobot imo. And I didn't play it personally, but everyone who has was also raving about KCD2 so maybe thow it into the pile of games that would have won if released last year
Remember that time some developers tried to give thanks for the reward they had just recieved, and the teleprompter told them to get the fuck off the stage?
I'm not sure why anyone cares about the Game Awards.
I understand all the prizes for exp 33, I played and love this game but if I had to choose which game to keep between exp 33 and silksong, I would keep silksong without any hesitation
I know not to take GOTY seriously cuz it's basically a nonstop shill-fest for AAA studios but that "Look guys you won!" comment really pissed me the off. That was just fucking patronizing
I haven't cared about an award show since I was a kid. They're usually corrupt, biased, and agenda driven. If I want to know if a game is good I look on reddit, youtube, Steam, and then if they look good I play them, and then make my own decision.
Award show season is so annoying. Every year, online discourse is just news about the opinions of people I don't care about talking about games and movies I don't care about, and when the industry insiders are done fellating each other, I have to listen to people complain that the game or movie they do care about didn't get the award that they don't care about. This time of year sucks.
Why do people feel the need to justify it in some way is beyond me.
If you love Silksong, that's great. It can be your GOTY.
Is it GOTY for everyone on average? Clearly not. At end of day it's a pretty difficult game and not meant for everyone.
You don't have to be mad at others for not enjoying it as much as you did though, or make up reasons like it's all political/bad relationships/TGA is stupid Etc.
Silksong is Game of the Year in my heart and that’s all that matters. E33 is really good though, and it deserved to be a tight competition between SS and E33. But E33 did not deserve to completely sweep the awards in every single category in which it was nominated (except best soundtrack, SS won that)
Whenever I talk about GOTY with the younger kids they have no idea what I’m talking about. Now even though they missed out Sekiro, I get it
I learnt what GOTY was because of this subreddit
I was originally trying to figure out what the Y stood for after Game Of Thrones lol
Yuri?
That's kind of crazy since more people watch the Game Awards than the Super Bowl. The Super Bowl is an American thing whereas TGA is international, but still.
Do you watch penguinz0
I do, why do you ask
He made the same exact connection in his recent video about TGA
Perchance
I've known what GOTY stood for since I bought... I think it was Fallout 3's GOTY edition a couple years back (probably circa 2017). Never felt the need to know more than that.
But hey! If it can get more traffic to Silksong, I'm all for it. Game deserves it.
Literally same
Mmm.... You know what?
I don't give a fuck about trophies or awards. I like the game, it's my "Favorite game of the year" yayyyy
Well said Madeline from Celeste!
Don't you mean Celeste from that Mountain Game?
Mount Fay?
Yooooo, its John Celeste from Celeste
Clearly Jane Celeste smh
Jack
only correct take here
Well said, the real game of the year is what YOU, ME, WE want to be game of the year
Then I pick tetris
100%. The ones who truly won were our Steam libraries. Imagine Silksong, E33, Hades 2, and the others in your library for the cost of one quintuple-A "remastered legendary collector's edition?"
it won best indie game in my heart ❤️
Hahahhahahahhaah
seriously. we are so lucky that we have this type of competition. you know who really won? Us.
FACTS!
the thing is even if i didnt know silksong or exp33 i would always choose silksong first since i like that genre just so much more so im not really sure what the award is supposed to say since those games are trying to be something completely different idk
Based Madeline
Oh god Celeste from Mount Fay.
That would be an awesome mod.
It would have won every award if E33 hadn’t swooped in and taken them first 😔
Same.
GOTY for me is Ninja Gaiden 4
Best Indie (because I say so) are Dispatch and ROUTINE (still need to finish Skong)
The only purpose of TGA is to see what new games are coming out in the next year. Everything else is full of critic bias and slop opinions
oh like the oscars
Like every awards show. Getting all invested in the arbitrary winners of arbitrary categories is a great way to wind yourself up over something that absolutely does not matter.
That's the point, they want to get more engagement, and people getting angry and invested is a great way to have more engagement
Except people watch it for the commercials
do the oscars even drop new trailers and reveals for movies i dont feel like they do
Including the bribes
not really, cus oscars tend to have more actual competition to see who might win. with tga its a shoe-in every year. and when it isnt, its cus that year was dogshit for games.
Dog the non-critic categories are always the worst ones. Wuthering Heights won player choice. Fucking Solo Leveling won anime of the year.
Only thing I think was questionable was putting E33 in the indie category at all.
Wuthering Waves. Wuthering Heights is the classic novel.
I was wondering why Wuthering Heights was having a ressurgence lol ty for clarifying
Not even questionable imo, just straight up shouldn't have been there. Their wiki page clearly outlines the significant impact Kepler publishing the game had on their development.
After securing funding from Kepler, Sandfall:
The game was made with an imo, pretty modest budget of 10 million for the quality of game they released but, it is undeniable that the game's development was significantly altered by getting a publisher to fund development, which as far as I'm concerned disqualifies it from being an indie title.
Im not 100% into the definitions, which nobody seems to be quite honestly, but it seems to best fit into AA
Tbf I thought Solo Leveling was quite good and insanely well produced
Well, yeah, if people didn't like the show, it wouldn't have won. The reason it won was because it was by popular vote. I just think that critically speaking, it was not good.
I agree it was well produced, but other than that I don't think it really has anything going for it. Even the fights in the show are kind of weak and repetitive. The fights on their own are good, but they are by and large the same 2-3 fights over and over again. And this is the show's strength. The story and character are really bad. I say character and not characters because I wouldn't say this show has more than one character.
Not true, the orchestra playing the relevant game’s soundtrack goes hard.
Honestly that's what hurts the most, it feels like they were intentionally baiting HL3 copers this time around. I swear to god it wasn't copium, HALF LIFE 3 WAS PROMISED TO ME 21 YEARS AGO!!
Lol yep, no more Silksong so back to baiting the OG never ever. What happened to all those small Australian indie devs that seem to appear at these shows.
he did bait titanfall 3 that one time
Eh, I mean it's not really bait when it's just factual. It is made by the peeps who made TF2 (the other one), it even says so on the trailer.
I was talking about a different game awards
Oh, my bad
Slopinions?
Yeah, unless your team wins, then you care again.
We should show GTA every year then
/s
Yup. They put a very highly funded game with a pretty large dev team that is definitely closer to AAA than indie in both indie categories and it stole the indie category awards from actual indie games.
Slop opinions? I’m sorry but that is just so stupid to say. Tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of gamers share the same opinion as many of the recipients of awards during the TGA. You might find it to be slop but that doesn’t mean it is for everyone else.
True, there were quite some good games revealed and also a lot of letdowns, thankfully as a total war fan I keep winning. But this particular year was kinda awfull, nothing wrong against E33, I do think they deserve most of the awards, but it was not a fun experience, hopefully they change some rules so this doesn't happen again.
It is, in fact, a popularity contest. It's based on the opinions people have
Pretty sure critics have no part in the voting. It's industry leaders that call the shots, which is worst.
The "judges" are all critic outlets, aren't they? Giant Bomb, IGN, Polygon, PCGamer, etc. Each outlet "votes" as a bloc, but the ones determining how that vote goes are still the critics at the end of the day. Your "industry leaders" comment makes it sound like the ones voting are like Ubisoft/Nintendo/EA/Activision which is not true.
Most of the GOTYs before, I agreed with, though. BG3, Sekiro, and Elden Ring were all deserved.
And you realize millions of people agree that Clair Obscur was GOTY for them? So what if you disagree that doesn’t invalidate the winners.
Yeah, I understand. I’m just saying that the critics who decide GOTY aren’t as out of touch as the community seems to make them out to be.
The goal of the VGA has nothing to do with being deserving or not. It's a presentation to the public on how the game industry is totes the best, everything is find and we are all growing. That actually good games beloved by the masses got the win is incidental.
Exactly is just a long set of advertisements and a popularity contest.
You mean to tell me Silksong winning Action/Adventure game is slop opinion? Damn, that's harsh, didn't think the game wasn't even deserving of the one award granted to it...
You fans are cutthroat but I respect it.
Tbh that award felt like “okay we need to give them something so they don’t riot”
I mean, c’mon, they literally said “see, you got one!” They didn’t even wanna give it one with that level of subtextual condescension
No? The voters have no idea what’s going to win the other categories. Voters gave Silksong best action adventure because they thought it was the best and wanted it to have that award. Geoff’s comment was joke about how TC said they wouldn’t win anything.
Slop opinions? Do y'all not know any other words other than slop?
Holy cope 😭
I do think it's funny because if it had won Goty, this post definitely would not have happened lol
I mean, of course not lmao. But I would have done something similar to this one:
https://preview.redd.it/crcbesu7ws6g1.jpeg?width=540&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cef3eed219ae19c5757d63d8bb387e83aad9cbdc
TGA begging for TC and TC not giving a fuck
Anyway, it is what it is ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Bro had a post ready for each outcome 😭
They said "too much independence in this indie game" and switched to something more comfortable.
Yeah. TC knew better than to participate in this circus.
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If you don't care, just don't post. Simple as that.
Real
Gave the award to a non-indie game out of spite.
For the best indie game
He's definitely this salty just because they didn't let him announce the release
Did you see the shade he threw while giving skong the action/adventure award? He's definitely salty, odd since be was glazing the game at gamescom
he was salty that they didnt attend the show before that he was i presume pretty hyped since better games just means more viewership
Wasn't really shade. He literally just said that because the devs said they didnt expect to win any awards due to e33 being there. So thats why he said it when they won.
This is salty as hell not gonna lie. Let's not pretend you guys didn't care from the start because that's obviously not the case. Nevermind how people only started going "E33 isn't even indie" AFTER they got both indie awards.
People have been saying this since the noms were announced. It was such a big conversation that the E33 devs themselves responded and said they don't feel like they qualify as indie either.
they should have bowed out of the award then like Dani did for Megabonk
This i what always makes me laugh every game awards. Year start "Game awards are a joke who even cares about them", game comes out and is reviewed well "We win game of the year for sure, this game was awesome and its obvious that it will win and show everyone how amazing this game i like is", game loses "Uh actually the Game awards is stupid and never mattered". Repeat cycle next game. Happens everytime and shows how dumb and salty gamers are.
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the cope is hilarious. “tga doesn’t like 2d games” “TGA hates indie games” “E33 isn’t an indie game” “TGA is salty because TC didn’t go” “TGA is rigged and meaningless” lmao
agreed cause the sub would be having a week long party if silkschlong won GOTY or indie GOTY
If Silksong won GotY this sub would be going absolutely crazy for weeks celebrating it.
All of the “I don’t even care” stuff is super cringe. If this sub actually didn’t care there wouldn’t be soooo many posts about it.
People have been saying e33 isnt indie for several months now.
The first line you're right, it is kinda hypocrite ngl. Now, about E33, people have been saying it is not an indie since it was announced as one. And I think a good portion thought the prizes would go for "indie-er" games and not the obvious AA option, which was not the case leading to the current situation
The part about E33 is wrong tho, ever since they got nominated you always had people complain that they aren't indie in every single post that mentioned this fact.
I've never seen the internet so mad about TGA before. Even though Silksong is my personal favorite for the year, I think E33 deserved almost every single award it got. It's one of a kind.
Definitely didn't deserve the indie awards. It's not an indie game, it has so much funding and such a big dev team compared to real indies.
That's the one point I agree with. TGA selects a group of games that fit a category, and then picks the best game out of that category. Instead, they should pick the game that is the best representative of that category.
For example, Silksong should have had a large advantage in the indie category simply based on how small the team was. KCD2 also really pushed the limits of what people expect an RPG to be capable of. Even though I think E33 is overall a better game than those two, it doesn't feel like the right choice for those particular categories.
But my bigger takeaway is how happy I am for the people on the E33 team who came out of nowhere, poured their entire heart and soul into their project, absolutely nailed it, and get recognized. Seeing Lorien's passion for music take him from Soundcloud to the TGA main stage in under two years is inspiring.
Well yeah, the sub cares, but the post says Team Cherry? This is specifically meant to get the sub to calm down about it, BECAUSE the developers don't care.
Lowk the game awards people were butt hurt (they were hating on Silksong. they had passive aggressive remarks when Silksong won, they were hating on Silksong even in songs, and trobbigoat only had a second of screen time)
But that 1 second was the literal highlight of the reel, because it was a sick transition from Groal sucking in then exploding as Trobbio.
The best 1 second out of the entire 3h+ thing fr
They have a weird focus on 3d titles. Iirc even when Metroid Dread came out and it got praised everywhere it got let down heavily and people were talking about how 2d titles rarely get as much attention at TGA as 3d ones.
That's something I was wondering about. What E33 GOTY win says to me is that an indie game can only be GOTY if it can look like an AAA game
An indie game can only win goty, if it's not inde, but backed by a publisher and few dozen milion usd lol.
I don't have anything agaist E33, in fact it's one of my favourite games of all time, however calling it an indie game just shows how completely out of touch are "critics" responsible for the awards lol.
Huh?
Maybe they mean in Miss Piggy’s song, “we waited so long for Donkey Kong Bananza and Peak and Death Stranding 2 and… the very very delayed SilkSong.”?
Though that made our game the most highlighted in that song, and it wasn’t in a negative light, but I missed the context initially too so it’s possible they misunderstood too.
Some people here are just delusional lol
The orchestra song for Silksong was barely recognisable as Silksong music and it was pretty short.
Just for fucking Bananza to get a full performance with vocals lmao
i didnt even recognise what track they were playing. i still dunno. which ost was it?
It was supposed to be Lace but yeah, it was barely recognisable
https://youtu.be/VpMqNkRu1CA
BRO I WAS SO HAPPY WHEN HE ACTUALLY APPEARED. TROBBIO MY BELOVED 💖💖
Trobbio? Where??
https://preview.redd.it/0bfnm962hr6g1.jpeg?width=2160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6da88cf587f82d87c1ba2670844311850981c9fc
Here!! During the final orchestra part. It lasted 1 second or less but still, i got so happy he legit appeared. Trobbio my love
Not to mention literally only 1 frame of Silksong in that intro video.
What? Have you never experienced interaction with another human bc none of that was hating or passive aggression.
No, the outernet is scary. But I am right because they don’t care about trobbigoat, they only gave him a second of screen time
It’s funny how upset yall are and all the shit yall are pulling out of thin air because the show didn’t go exactly as yall want. Nobody was throwing shade, nobody was passive aggressive and nobody was hating. It’s not that deep.
Holy shit, these comments are so salty.
Yeah dude. People really going "TGA and Geoff Keighley are SP salty dude I swear they are SUPER salty dude they did this just because they're mad low-key i SWEAR dude I'm not just coping dude I SWEAR"
And that's why this event never meant anything to begin with. It's all business
Tbf, A LOT of posts in this sub was hyping silksong as goty competition against exp33. Especially before release. "Silksong took so long because the devs were in development heaven? GOTY, WATCH OUT EXP 33"
My game didn’t win so TGA doesn’t even mean anything WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA fucking cry babies holy shit
i was soo upset that silksong lost
Why? It didn’t lose to a Genshin Impact dlc or anything embarrassing.
I mean it and exp 33 lost player's voice to wuthering waves somehow😭😭😭😭
The only true major fuckup. How the FUCK does wuthering waves win over the other FANTASTIC games on that list???? I'm forever a skonger and enjoy Metroidvania combat way more than the turn based repetitive thing E33 was, but so many people loved it. How did it, or something else, not win?!
In 2022 Genshin won over Elden Ring in player choice.
Player's Choice is 100% determined by fan voting online. It won because its fans voted for it more than the other games.
This is why the main categories are barely affected by fan votes and primarily driven by critics.
Gatcha games almost always win that category if I remember correctly
You don't. This is only the second time it's happened.
Wukong won last year, Baldur's Gate won 2023, Genshin won 2022, Halo Infinite won 2021, Ghost of Tsushima won 2020. 2/6 wins have been gacha games, which is maybe a little bit inflated, but it's nowhere near the "literally every year" narrative I keep seeing people spread.
You don’t understand how the players choice award works lmao
Apparently, lol. My first time really participating/watching GOTY.
Hard agree on the repetitiveness of exp thats like my main gripe while i was playing
Because gacha players are rabid dude
It’s not that hard to see why
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Their publishers biggest game was sifu what are you on about.
Nobody had issues with sifu being called an indie game.
How is E33 not an indie game? It's made by an independent studio and published by an independent publisher. Just because it's on par with what AAA should be does not suddenly make it not an indie game.
Sybau it is an indie game whether you want to admit it or not. Their budget was smaller than TC earnings from Hollow Knight, fuck outta here with your delusional “it’s a non-indie” ass.
Yeah, y'all tagging it this way doesn't change reality. I get you're upset but bro plese.
To some extent the games with the most wide appeal are going to win based on the size of the voting group. This is more than 100 groups voting together to determine what games they enjoyed. Silksong is a 2D Metroidvania/platformer with an indirectly told story, that most importantly was very difficult. It’s not a surprise that it appeals to less players than a story based game with a unique style. The fact it was competing at that level proves its quality
Skong didn't loose. It's a made up award given by a few biased critics. Skong doesn't need no award. Skong is strong on It's own, i mean it fucking broke all online game stores when it released.
And if it had won this comment would be saying the complete opposite, stfu you’re just embarrassing yourself at this point.
Exactly lol
Would it? I am really interested to learn about your psychic abilities because you seem to know a lot about what other people would do if something different happened. …except if you talk out of your ass, but you certainly weren't doing that, right? Right?
To expand on that: a lot of people despised TGA way before Silksong release date even got announced. Pretending like the only reason they continue to despise it is Silksong losing is disingenuous.
Tbf im down team cherry didn’t win more but im glad they did get something and good games won other stuff.
TGA doesn't have the ability to not give a fuck about TC either since they are not on their level.
I haven't played Silksong, but I came here today because TGA pissed me off with this shit. I'm 27. I cannot recall abother game that crashed MULTIPLE GAME SALE PLATFORMS ON RELEASE. How did Silksong only get 1 award?
Because it’s luckily not a popularity contest decided by how many people bought a game before reviews were even out lmfao.
Team Cherry is quite unlucky and fell one a huge year one both release, 2017 had Breath of the Wild and 2025 had E33, meanwhile in 2024 Astro Bot won 😂
I would say, winning is important but so is being nominated for almost every category it could have been.
I think HK had more impact on gaming than most nominees, considering how this game launched the trend of Metroidvania, but some years are harder than other
It’s about 100 groups of different people voting, that tends to mean niche games aren’t going to win
Yep of course that s how it is, I m just saying what I think fair
Pretty sure Metroid and Castlevania launched the Metroidvania trend
Pretty sure Metroid and Castlevania launched the Metroidvania genre but weren t the one making this genre a trend at the end of the 2010s and the start of the 2020s by bringing new players and inspiring new devs
Honestly Astro Bot is a ton of fun. I gave it a try after it won and could see why people enjoy it. Reminds me of when I was little booting up Mario 64.
I didn t say Astrobot isnt fun, but it isn t a piece of art at the level of E33 or Breath of the Wild
Real talk? As a long time Zelda fan, BotW is way overrated. They lost a lot of the Zelda charm in the process of making it open world. E33 is great, though. I definitely disagree that Astro Bot isn't art, though. 3D platformers get shit on way too often. Bananza was also fantastic this year.
You can find BotW in so many games, the paravoile and the endurance system obviously, but I think it really affected many open worlds after it. From what I saw, Astro Bot felt a lot like the Mario Odissey of PlayStation.
And Odyssey was also art. Bananza feels like it took all of the best ideas from it and BotW and mashed it together, and I really enjoyed it.
I think there are a lot of good things BotW, but also a lot of things that deviated a lot from classic Zelda games. Their Divine Beasts, for example, were awful in comparison to classic dungeons like Forest or Fire Temple from OOT. I also deeply dislike the durability system, it felt intrusive and tedious.
Oh, yeah, 90% sure Silksong would win in 2024. Also, this sub loved caring about goty and silksong competing with exp 33 for goty, until it lost yesterday. Now its "whatever, only lost cause it's 2d 🙄"
Yeah this year was stacked. I feel like multiple games this year would have won if they came out last year. E33, Silksong, and DK Bananza all would have beat Astrobot imo. And I didn't play it personally, but everyone who has was also raving about KCD2 so maybe thow it into the pile of games that would have won if released last year
Haven’t played it either, but based on public opinion Hades 2 would’ve swallowed competition in 2024 as well. This year was absurdly stacked.
I mean
Silksong did crashed all the mayor game digital markets on realise
That’s a biggest trophy than the GotY if you ask me
That had a lot more to do with steam and also team cherry not allowing pre download.
Everybody else does predownload so that something like that doesn’t happen.
The game was literally 3 dudes and a delusional fanbase. Absolutely shoulda won Indie game.
Finally, no silkpost detected
Remember that time some developers tried to give thanks for the reward they had just recieved, and the teleprompter told them to get the fuck off the stage?
I'm not sure why anyone cares about the Game Awards.
Sure, but E33 also won the Golden Joystick award, and I think it’ll probably win more/others.
Silksong is awesome but other awesome games do exist. I do think the “indie” category at the TGA is fucked, though.
I only watch the show for the announcements, don't give a shit about awards
Gamers discover free will for the first time
I understand all the prizes for exp 33, I played and love this game but if I had to choose which game to keep between exp 33 and silksong, I would keep silksong without any hesitation
I know not to take GOTY seriously cuz it's basically a nonstop shill-fest for AAA studios but that "Look guys you won!" comment really pissed me the off. That was just fucking patronizing
Yeah TC does not care about awards at all
y'all so mad
just a corpo event relax
As someone who has 100% silksong seeing salty posts like this make me fucking laugh. Touch grass.
I haven't played any other games that came out in the year. So Silksong is the GOTY for me
I haven't cared about an award show since I was a kid. They're usually corrupt, biased, and agenda driven. If I want to know if a game is good I look on reddit, youtube, Steam, and then if they look good I play them, and then make my own decision.
Award show season is so annoying. Every year, online discourse is just news about the opinions of people I don't care about talking about games and movies I don't care about, and when the industry insiders are done fellating each other, I have to listen to people complain that the game or movie they do care about didn't get the award that they don't care about. This time of year sucks.
Why do people feel the need to justify it in some way is beyond me.
If you love Silksong, that's great. It can be your GOTY.
Is it GOTY for everyone on average? Clearly not. At end of day it's a pretty difficult game and not meant for everyone.
You don't have to be mad at others for not enjoying it as much as you did though, or make up reasons like it's all political/bad relationships/TGA is stupid Etc.
Honestly… this whole thing made me learn that the MUPPETS appear during the game awards sometimes.
Team cherry after profiting probably millions from their game and then losing a fame contest which was 70% gacha games
Silksong Tommorow!!
TGA is just a way for me specifically to remember to play e33 that’s why it won everything under the sun
with that geoff comment? nah, he was damn salty TC refused to go lmao
I honestly never knew what goty was till these last few months, and I’ve been gaming for 30 years.
atp it should be about shitting on TGA and not about silksong
TC is a level above TGA.
TGA are less doing this and more crying and seething that they did not want to come, but yeah, that's pretty much Team Cherry's reaction.
Crying and seething = one lighthearted joke 💀
Silksong is Game of the Year in my heart and that’s all that matters. E33 is really good though, and it deserved to be a tight competition between SS and E33. But E33 did not deserve to completely sweep the awards in every single category in which it was nominated (except best soundtrack, SS won that)