To be fair, he didn't know, and he frankly needed it more than Sphene herself after having spent centuries thinking he got her killed if his digital form having a full-blown PTSD episode during a theater play relating to the event was anything to go by.
Honestly, I'm just glad he got to pass on to the aetherial sea due to him being attuned to a "flawed" version of the resonators rather than having his soul eaten by another Alexandrian wanting to win a dare.
Normally I would agree, but seeing how she was surrounded by the utter carnage that was Zoraal Ja killing her people over and over and over again (one of the poor fuckers you speak to was stabbed to death three times) by the buttloads to use their souls as batteries, and that it was only possible for him to do such thing because she empowered him to do so in the first place, I understand why she had bigger concerns in her head to just say "no Otis, I am a robot, I can come back!"
And besides, Otis was also saving the Warrior of Light and company when he died. That boss would have fried the WoL, Alisae, G'raha and Krile to a crisp had Otis not sacrificed himself. It wasn't just Sphene he was saving, and it's partially why he was, as the youth say, "a real one".
I disagree with the whole 'would've fried' that was just part of Dawntrail's inability to downplay the WoL's strength for very specific purposes. I think in base Dawntrail it made sense, but was IMMEDIATELY made stupid by Calyx dumping the entirety of the City's Electrical power into a Satellite Laser at us in later patches, causing us to only take a Knee from it and become winded. There is ZERO chance we couldn't have been completely fine and mopped the floor with that random ass mob.
Oh, I haven't started the post-MSQ part yet. I beat the MSQ and went on to grind the crap out of Pilgrim's Traverse for the new hair (it was oh so worth it).
That does sound like a big misstep. It was good to see DT treat the WoL as a badass that is still very much mortal now that they are not super empowered to cosmic levels by fighting in a region that is completely made out of Dynamis, and seeing them make an extra gnarly special animation for getting knocked out by lighting during Otis' big moment felt like a step in the good direction for this end. Guess I was wrong! Lame.
I'll still maintain he saved Krile, G'raha, and Alisae, though. Those aren't nearly as durable.
Apologies for spoilering you, i had assumed you made it that far, my bad.
DT's biggest issue was just balancing WoL's power, i understand they were put to the wayside, but most of that was argued cuz they wanted to stay out of stuff, but there were a lot of moments where they just decide to downplay the WoL's strength and feats just to push the narrative or do stupid stuff. Otis' sacrifice was...okay? In the base DT but post Dawntrail and WoL feats just make it pointless anyways.
You could argue the others, but funnily enough, G'raha already showed his durability with Endsinger and protecting us for a good amount of time with Wings on his PLD, and Krile gets a pretty good showoff of her skill in Post Dawntrail as well. Alisae is the only one i'd say was saved, but knowing how close she is the WoL compared to a lot of other scions i'd say we could've shielded her...
That's aight, there was no malice intended. Things that come with discussing a game's story online.
But yeah, it does feel like the post-game seemingly making it clear that all this was survivable for at least the WoL kinda diminishes the poor guy's heroic sacrifice. At least for him it probably felt like the redemption he had longed for for centures. That and not having his soul cannibalized, I'd argue.
The story has a bit of an issue with balancing the WoLs power level without is becoming a literal god. In lore the WoLs most powerful ability is suppose to be motivating others to fight and rallying others. Now WoL can just summon 7 reflections of himself at will(I don't think we know a whole lot on Azems crystals limit other than in EW we were told it has a limit). Somewhere in lore it's stated that WoLs power fluctuates based in the situation. Admittedly it would be pretty boring and hard to right if WoL only keep power scaling which a lot of Shoniens have issue with. WoLs already killed off multiple Primals and gods and the literal manifestation of Despair depending on how much you attribute to Dynamis
Every expansion has that one side character that shows up for MSQ for a bit, steals the fanbase's heart, and then leaves as easily as they arrived (usually by dying horribly).
A Realm Reborn had Moenbryda, Heavensward got Hilda (the first one to survive the MSQ more or less unscathed), Stormblood gave us Sadu and, to a lesser extent, Magnai (who greatly benefited from no one important really dying in Stormblood), Shadowbringers introduced itself with Tesleen, and Endwalker gave us the Most Reasonable Leader Alive, Ahewann.
He was very popular when Endwalker first came out (which was incidentally when I got the game). A remarkable amount of people found him to be a George Clooney-esque silver fox. Au Ri characters almost always being very popular helped.
I think Vrtra was too central to the narrative and too much of a frequent flier (hehe) to qualify, but he is a solid character. Great counterpart to the dragons of Coerthas in how willing he is to entreat with Men and how much he genuinely loves his people.
It's a lot easier to get along with humans when they haven't tried to betray you. Also is very sad Ysaryle didn't get to see Raz-at-hanz. In general I'm sad she didn't make it
This is incorrect, Otis only ever had one body and there are multiple robots in the Underkeep with his exact model. They just re-used the Mamool Ja skeleton for the robot out of universe, it's just a coincidentally similar shape in-universe
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Every time I hear the DT boss theme, I remember his cutscene. It's his theme now
Amazing character killed in the most stupid as fuck way for no good reason
bro died to protect 1 of 500,000 Tesla Bots when Sphene could have just remotely operated any other bot after that
To be fair, he didn't know, and he frankly needed it more than Sphene herself after having spent centuries thinking he got her killed if his digital form having a full-blown PTSD episode during a theater play relating to the event was anything to go by.
Honestly, I'm just glad he got to pass on to the aetherial sea due to him being attuned to a "flawed" version of the resonators rather than having his soul eaten by another Alexandrian wanting to win a dare.
yeah but Sphene could have told him, she was drama acting for no reason to make him die
but yeah I guess he got his hero death even if it felt kinda unnecessary to kill him off there
Normally I would agree, but seeing how she was surrounded by the utter carnage that was Zoraal Ja killing her people over and over and over again (one of the poor fuckers you speak to was stabbed to death three times) by the buttloads to use their souls as batteries, and that it was only possible for him to do such thing because she empowered him to do so in the first place, I understand why she had bigger concerns in her head to just say "no Otis, I am a robot, I can come back!"
And besides, Otis was also saving the Warrior of Light and company when he died. That boss would have fried the WoL, Alisae, G'raha and Krile to a crisp had Otis not sacrificed himself. It wasn't just Sphene he was saving, and it's partially why he was, as the youth say, "a real one".
I disagree with the whole 'would've fried' that was just part of Dawntrail's inability to downplay the WoL's strength for very specific purposes. I think in base Dawntrail it made sense, but was IMMEDIATELY made stupid by Calyx dumping the entirety of the City's Electrical power into a Satellite Laser at us in later patches, causing us to only take a Knee from it and become winded. There is ZERO chance we couldn't have been completely fine and mopped the floor with that random ass mob.
Oh, I haven't started the post-MSQ part yet. I beat the MSQ and went on to grind the crap out of Pilgrim's Traverse for the new hair (it was oh so worth it).
That does sound like a big misstep. It was good to see DT treat the WoL as a badass that is still very much mortal now that they are not super empowered to cosmic levels by fighting in a region that is completely made out of Dynamis, and seeing them make an extra gnarly special animation for getting knocked out by lighting during Otis' big moment felt like a step in the good direction for this end. Guess I was wrong! Lame.
I'll still maintain he saved Krile, G'raha, and Alisae, though. Those aren't nearly as durable.
Apologies for spoilering you, i had assumed you made it that far, my bad.
DT's biggest issue was just balancing WoL's power, i understand they were put to the wayside, but most of that was argued cuz they wanted to stay out of stuff, but there were a lot of moments where they just decide to downplay the WoL's strength and feats just to push the narrative or do stupid stuff. Otis' sacrifice was...okay? In the base DT but post Dawntrail and WoL feats just make it pointless anyways.
You could argue the others, but funnily enough, G'raha already showed his durability with Endsinger and protecting us for a good amount of time with Wings on his PLD, and Krile gets a pretty good showoff of her skill in Post Dawntrail as well. Alisae is the only one i'd say was saved, but knowing how close she is the WoL compared to a lot of other scions i'd say we could've shielded her...
That's aight, there was no malice intended. Things that come with discussing a game's story online.
But yeah, it does feel like the post-game seemingly making it clear that all this was survivable for at least the WoL kinda diminishes the poor guy's heroic sacrifice. At least for him it probably felt like the redemption he had longed for for centures. That and not having his soul cannibalized, I'd argue.
Poor bastard pulled a Jorge from Halo: Reach sacrificing himself thinking it was for the best but it was completely in vain
The story has a bit of an issue with balancing the WoLs power level without is becoming a literal god. In lore the WoLs most powerful ability is suppose to be motivating others to fight and rallying others. Now WoL can just summon 7 reflections of himself at will(I don't think we know a whole lot on Azems crystals limit other than in EW we were told it has a limit). Somewhere in lore it's stated that WoLs power fluctuates based in the situation. Admittedly it would be pretty boring and hard to right if WoL only keep power scaling which a lot of Shoniens have issue with. WoLs already killed off multiple Primals and gods and the literal manifestation of Despair depending on how much you attribute to Dynamis
DT writer realized they didn't fuck up enough and had to correct that 3/4 of the way through.
Woulda been so cool if he was protecting Gulool Ja instead of a fucking robot.
Shameless hknight regurgitation
Every expansion has that one side character that shows up for MSQ for a bit, steals the fanbase's heart, and then leaves as easily as they arrived (usually by dying horribly).
A Realm Reborn had Moenbryda, Heavensward got Hilda (the first one to survive the MSQ more or less unscathed), Stormblood gave us Sadu and, to a lesser extent, Magnai (who greatly benefited from no one important really dying in Stormblood), Shadowbringers introduced itself with Tesleen, and Endwalker gave us the Most Reasonable Leader Alive, Ahewann.
I don't think Ahewann stole anybodys heart
He was very popular when Endwalker first came out (which was incidentally when I got the game). A remarkable amount of people found him to be a George Clooney-esque silver fox. Au Ri characters almost always being very popular helped.
Venari(raz at has dragon) I thought was an underrated character in EW
I think Vrtra was too central to the narrative and too much of a frequent flier (hehe) to qualify, but he is a solid character. Great counterpart to the dragons of Coerthas in how willing he is to entreat with Men and how much he genuinely loves his people.
It's a lot easier to get along with humans when they haven't tried to betray you. Also is very sad Ysaryle didn't get to see Raz-at-hanz. In general I'm sad she didn't make it
Did they ever explain why he looks like an mamool ja?
I might have missed it
He's a thighlander, the robot body his soul was put into for the phase 1 endless was modeled after zoraal ja.
How tf does that work if he and the endless were around long before Zoraal Ja arrived?
He probably had a normal robot body at the start and was upgraded to mamool ja mode after zoraal ja wanted to do his big tantrum invasion.
This is incorrect, Otis only ever had one body and there are multiple robots in the Underkeep with his exact model. They just re-used the Mamool Ja skeleton for the robot out of universe, it's just a coincidentally similar shape in-universe
But Otis can't change bodies, that's why his is so broken down and worn
That guy was an interesting concept right until they overdid the "here is a cute little blue baby please show emotional reaction" spiel around him.
One of the 2 good part of DT msq, and only in part of that part. But it did happen.
Idk the part where Wuk Lamat died was awesome, too bad it was just for a play.
....who? Its been a while.
Steiner from temu
The raw meat guy
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What happened? I just read this
Ol rusty armour, we miss u dearly
Should've been Alpha.
Dawntrail can make likeable characters, but only if they die later or are first believed to be evil
(Real) Sphene is likable.
Or make them try to die for a buffalo.
Forgot this guy existed tbh