• Now that he's finally made it and plays in the MLS, maybe we should consider him for the national team. With him Germany could win the world cup, I'm sure about that!

    I am sure Muller was giddy when he finally got to play in the MLS after so long

    Afaik he slept in Sebastian Schonlau-bedding for all his career, so he must be over the moon now.

    Yeah, he had to work really hard to convince aaaany team to sign him

    Reminder that Celtic have just hired the 2024 MLS manager of the year, and even in Scotland, he's wildly out of his depth.

    And not winning the Scot league with Celtic is technically not allowed...

    I'm not claiming the league wouldn't benefit from a team winning that isn't The Old Firm (even most Celtic fans would be genuinely excited for real competition in the league, especially from anyone other than Rangers). Just that he's picked up a team that was in extremely good form in both domestic matches and Europe under O'Niell and immediately looked utterly lost at the helm. Comically so.

    he finally made it, 11 years after winning the world cup he got what he wanted all along

    No, he plays in the MLS now, that means he now plays for USMNT, just like Heung Min Son.

    Can't wait for him to face off with his old Bayern teammate Schweinsteiger and Chicago đŸ”„

    Didn’t messi just win the soccer World Cup with inter Miami?

    Him and Son Heung-Min! We could be unstoppable!

    What are you on about? Obviously Muller will play for the US now, just like Son and Messi!

    Im just waiting for someone to ask him if Canada has a chance at the World Cup now.

    What have Marxist Leninists got to do with football?

    A joke based on MLS being also an abbreviation of Marxist Leninists.

  • This has to be ragebait

    I honestly can't fathom why someone would waste thier time rage baiting and arguing with people in the thread without even having a checkmark

    They are a blank page so it isn't even like they are garnering a following for anything lmao

    I couldn't name you either of the US teams they mentioned.

    I assumed they were talking about baseball.

    TIL the US has a football competition, although now I remember David Beckham played there when he was old and over the hill, the same way Australian rugby league players spend a few years in semi-retirement taking it easy in the English Super League.

    Australian rugby league players spend a few years in semi-retirement taking it easy in the English Super League.

    oooch, as a French man, I just loled at that

    Tres bon Rodney, tres bon.

    Lovely jubbly!

    So did Pele and Beckenbauer - both from unknown rural clubs. /s

    People post controversial stuff so they can attract followers.   Once they get a sufficient amount they'll monetize.   It's not worth it to them to pay for the blue checkmark until they have sufficient followers. 

    Just look at the number of people he's triggered in this thread alone. 

    It has to be. I'm a less than casual football fan from California and I'm totally aware of Bayern Munich but have never once heard of the Vancouver Whitecaps.

    I have, but only because Peter Beardsley (regarded as a legend at both Newcastle United and Liverpool) played there early in his career.

    This is laughbait

    no MLS fans think they are on PL level

  • LOL.

    LMAO even.

    Let me add Oida.

    Can I amend with a "boah"?

    I concur with "alter"

    LLL (lol just in German)

    MDR (lol in French)

    MDR is a German TV channel

    is it a comedy channel??

    Nah, it‘s a regional channel for Middle Germany, every region has one (north, south-west, Hessen and Bavaria)

    As an American Bayern fan, this guy can go step in cow shit.

  • I am starting to wonder if Americans have evolved to the point they can understand and use sarcasm. Because I just don't believe anyone could be this dumb.

    Evolving? They are all going the other way, soon they will be very small fish like creatures
.

    I thought they didn't believe in evolution...

    evolution is bad, they only believe in social darwinism - which is definitely not the same thing

  • MLS - my last season

    Yeah I thought that’s where they bring their careers to die in peace..

    Makes me sad. Australia used to be the place for that

    Aussies fans got to serious about it they want to go out on tour not actually try

    Thought it was Myles Lewis Skelly

    The sentence “Thomas MĂŒller came into MLS” would have a slightly more disturbing impact

    Minor Superannuation League?

  • The USA has football teams?

    LMAO i checked and most of them end with "FC". The New York City team is called "NYCFC" lol.

    Or you get the truly weird ones, like Real Salt Lake.

    Houston Dynamo

    That makes more sense than using the Spanish word for royal in a country whose primary language is English and has never been a monarchy as long as it has been independent.

    More and more Houston Dynamo Moscow these days.

    That sounds so cringe that I had to look it up. Yup, Real Salt Lake. How pretentious and artificial. No one was smart enough to see how bad of a name that was?

    Real Salt Lake is beyond stupid!

    Is there a large Spanish community in Salt Lake? I dunno. But probably not.

    Giving the team a prefix that means “Royal” in a country that famously (and erroneously, in my opinion) declared independence from the Crown is thick as shit.

    In Spain,the title "Real" is given by the Crown itself, so...

    I want a team called Fake or Faux Salt Lake now - play a derby every year.

    Yeah this one is puzzling to us too, Salt Lake City is known as a Mormon city with no obvious ties to Latin America. Then again their basketball team is called the Jazz for some reason.

    At least Club Internacional de FĂștbol Miami makes sense since y’know, it’s a Spanish speaking city 

    The irony of 'real' meaning royal in a state with royalty is off the charts

    Beckham's team it Inter Miami which is just a pun name ud expect in a football game without the licence to use real teams

    There’s a North American team called Atletico Ottawa.

    Imagine you habe to put real in your Name.. just ridiculous

    Come on Salt Lake is famous for it's royalty 😂

    Inter Miami takes the cake. With it's rich club history dating back to.... 2018

    That is even worse than RB Leipzig a club rightfully ridiculed for having no history

    Many of them changed their names to fit in with the naming styles of other teams around the world, but NYCFC specifically was founded by the group that controls manchester city.

    Wasn't city owned by a disgraced Thai billionaire?

    It's hilarious when they actually say the FC i always think "do they know we don't say that over here it's just there for historical reasons"

    The only USA football team i know by name, i know because of Zlatan

    Come on, the Angel City FC is IT. 

    he do play in Canada

  • Taxidrivers from Beijing and Jakarta who’ve talked to my partner and me about Bayern MĂŒnchen would disagree..

  • I’m American and I didn’t even know Vancouver had an MLS team

    That's where Alphonso Davies came from!

    Ya know, the guy who used to be big and famous, before he moved to Bayern where now he's just a forgotten shadow of who he was in Vancouver.

    Who needs a Champions League trophy when you were Vancouver Whitecaps FC player of the year in 2018!?

    They were in the final against Miami last week

    I didn't even know they had a football competition.

    Well, you will now, thanks to MĂŒller

  • https://i.redd.it/s0qd3kdyjz6g1.gif

    Fuck! Damn it! Now I've spilled my coffee on the apple pie because I was laughing so hard!

    The FC Bayern MĂŒnchen is the most successful team in Germany (34 championship titles) and one of the most successful teams in Europe and the world. With 432,500 members, it is also the sports club with the most members in the world.

    In the world of football (not this American rugby, which you call “football”!), the “provincial club” FC Bayern MĂŒnchen is a real force to be reckoned with, while the New York City Football Club and the Los Angeles Football Club play no role at all in international football.

    Btw: I’m already looking forward to Dumbo Dumb blaming the Democrats when the US national team gets knocked out in the preliminary round of the World Cup.

    He said he's supporting Scotland and Germany because the United States team is woke because they kneeled in support of Black Lives Matter

  • Delusional.

  • Come on, it's a joke/troll/ragebait, right ?

  • No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people.

  • Global reach...in North America. Not even the Americans are all that interested in football (I mean actual football, not their watered down version of rugby that they confusingly call football, even though it's mainly played using hands), the rest of the world considers their league a place where former greats go to make a lot of money as their careers in serious competitions are basically over. It's either the US or Middle East.

    Even the regional reach is marginal, let alone the global reach. But sure, the US is better at everything. In your twisted world view, I'm sure that makes sense...

    I was just talking to my coworker who's a huge MLS fan and he was telling me about how MLS is trying to become a legitimate farm league for European teams. They really want to develop players for Europe.

    Many European teams have owners that have teams in Europe and msl. For FC San Diego it's so they can get Mexician to the 100 km rules can be streached

    That rule is sneaky as fuck by FIFA and not just in America globally

    like how Messi's dad "somehow" got a job in Bacelona and had to move

  • There is no global following to NFL or MLB. Some logos are known but no one knows any players.

    NBA has a global following NHL has a European following MLB has a East Asian following and NFL has a hipster following outside America

    Yep, NBA is global. Others have regional interests like you stated.

    When I was younger I thought these leagues were cap manufacturers, they were dope! I still have some.

  • Barely anyone outside North america cares about the NFL and the MLS is more retirement league for aging players to end their career on large salary 👀

    I once told an American who said that American "soccer" fans were all just hipster he refused to believe that's exactly who follows the NFL in Europe he refused to believe it

  • “totally unknown” is mad, anyone who payed attention to football knew him before he went to vancouver

    The guy above is a Brit making a joke at the expense of the original post, that's why he has screenshots of Bayern having more Instagram followers than the whole of the NFL.

    I don’t pay particular attention to football (I’m a “watch the World Cup” type, although not the last one or the next one, for reasons
) and I’ve heard of him.

    And Bayern a “regional team”. I mean, what?

  • Dont feed the trolls

  • That is hilarious.

  • Everybody knows that the MLS winner is automatically world champion.

  • That's why I never rate Mo Salah, yeah he's my hero but could he play in the MLS? The top dog of it all? I don't know

    he is rumored to FC San Diego, mainly because it's an Egyptian owner

    He would absolutely ruin the MLS

  • I think maybe they're sarcastically trying to show how much he's fallen into being forgotten... Or something. There's no way this is meant to be interpreted at face value.

    The fact that person is arguing with other people in the same thread would say otherwise

    I think you got whooshed. The guy quoting the original claim and facetiously agreeing with it is a famous British football YouTuber. He is doing a bit.

    I wasn't talking about the quote tweet, I know he was being sarcastic

    I meant the person who wrote the original tweet tweet

  • It's a fair point though. I mean, who had ever heard of Messi until he moved to Miami?

    I heard he, Suarez, Jordi Alba, and Busi all used to play to some scrub club called Barcelona or something before coming to Miami and THAT'S WHEN they became globally famous

    I think I've heard of Barcelona. It's named after that place in Arkansas yeah?

    Which country is it in, Europe or Asia?

  • They hate so much that the world doesn’t take them seriously in football. Not even because they care about football, but just because their default position is “America is Number One!!” So the reality that they’re objectively insignificant is a bitter pill to swallow.

    I woke up in the middle of the night a couple of weeks ago and happened to catch some of Minnesota vs San Diego in the MLS playoffs. I’ve never really watched MLS. The quality was absolutely atrocious. The only reason any player or manager of any calibre goes there is to ride a handsome pay check into retirement.

  • I grew up in Indonesia and Bayern MĂŒnchen, like other top clubs (at the time) such as Manchester United, AC Milan, Juventus, Real Madrid, Barca, etc. each had HUGE fans bases everywhere.. but none of the NFL nor American soccer teams had any fans..

  • Yet Herr Muller and FC Bayern have more followers than the MLS & NFL respectively.

  • I ask myself every single day how the USA became a powerful country...

    Slavery, war mongering and profiteering of war.

  • Bayern is 2nd only to Real Madrid as the world's biggest club I'd argue. Their only real competition is Barcelona and Manchester United, and United has fallen off a cliff this decade

    United is still massive in Africa and Asia.

    Realistically, it's these, in no particular order:

    • Real Madrid
    • Barcelona
    • Man United
    • Liverpool
    • Bayern Munich
    • Juventus

    There's a few hanging around at the edges such as Arsenal and the Milan clubs, but those 6 are always going to be considered massive until they truly plummet. Even United as bad as they have been aren't quite in the sort of free-fall that would push them out of that group.

    Juve? They had a good decade but the Milan clubs could argue to be bigger.

    Also Liverpool over Bayern?

    Given the decade united have had, they should be 4th bellow Bayern or Barca.

    LFC have a bigger fanbase than Bayern but it's similar and Man U are great at marketing themselves off the pitch them and AC Milan are the ones who kicked started the corporate takeover of football

    The Milan clubs are absolutely not bigger worldwide than Juventus. Also:

    in no particular order

    Juventus are an interesting club massive following globally but supposedly second in Turin

  • I can't conceive how this is not satire ?

  • WHAT the ACTUAL FUCK

  • This is definitely the best one I've seen in here.

  • MLS, the pinnacle of professional football 

  • MLS, the pinnacle of professional football 

  • MLS is the English speaking retirement home for footballers wanting a kick about with their mates.

  • Just smile and nod. Smile and nod. Americans love it when they think everyone else acknowledges their superiority.

  • Outside of Bavaria no one has heard of BMW. Outside of Munich, no one knows about Oktoberfest..

  • We live in a timeline where ragebait is real

  • I enjoyed this one a bit more than other posts on this subreddit.

  • Next Years Crash and Last Almonds? đŸ€”

  • "the global reach in North America"... đŸ˜”â€đŸ’«

  • Bayern is one of the most popular football teams in Europe, and the fact that I know this despite not knowing shit about football nor being interested in it is telling.

  • Jesus Christ that might be the best one I have heard đŸ«ą

  • They make it so easy to hate-laugh at them.

  • The only club in the MLS that can be considered global is Inter Miami and this won’t be the case anymore as soon as Messi isn’t there anymore

  • I wish I could be this confident when I'm wrong

  • when I mention i'm from Munich to anyone from another country (including americans), they're always like "ohh like bayern munich!" 😂

  • Muller came to Vancouver because he likes skiing 

  • I am confused the picture clearly shows that Thomas and fc Bayern are more games then the mls and the nfl but the text claims is the other way around.

    The only explanation would be Sarcasm but that would’ve a bit weird use of sarcasm

    The quote tweet is sarcastically mocking the original tweet

  • Didn't even know he was playing in america. And that Vancouver had a football club.

    He moved there a few months ago in August

  • Winning a World Cup doesn’t give you global reach, sure.

  • This is one of the best. 😂

  • I have no clue who is even on NYFC

    I think Wo is on first

  • Does the USA have soccer teams? I didn't know that, who do they play against?

  • This can't be anything else but rage bait. Bayern MĂŒnchen is arguably the second biggest club in football history

  • The man clearly is just mad about Alfie's Freddy Adu jokes

  • 😂😂😂 I thought he was trolling. MLS is the pension plan of players...

  • Yes, agree, smart move by Thomas MĂŒller to join the MLS. Maybe I will enter the next stage in his career, and get's the global recognition he deserves, not only the regional one, around MĂŒnchen!

  • I can’t wait for US to get absolutely rumbled and go out in the group stage while Mexico proceed to the knockouts

  • European football players join the MLS because they're not ready to retire..

    I'm also 95% sure Zlatan joined LA because he loves the attention he gets from American sport fans. Zlatan is cocky enough to fit in with the American crowd 😅

  • Funny. I am not a football fan, and have heard of Bayern Munich FC. I cannot name any US American "soccer" football or glorified rugby with body armour "football" teams.

  • I wish I lived in a world where this was true. Sadly, bloody Bayern fans everywhere  

  • What a joke! MLS barely has a presence here in the U.S. if you aren’t a close follower of the league, the only name anyone would know is Messi.

  • Being Totally UNKNOWN? Excuse me? Lmao. He’s not been unknown, I’m not a Bayern fan and, I know about a lot of what he’s done and achieved.

    Person that wrote this, must’ve a troll. I legit can’t believe they’re that dense

  • I LIVED in Vancouver and never even heard of the Vancouver whitecaps

  • Obviously almost nobody outside of America knows or cares about American football, but if you're just talking about sports as a whole, he's arguably correct - everybody knows the Lakers. It's not a like for like comparison of course, but you can at least see where old mate here got tripped up

  • The MLS is such an elite tournament that European players are only admitted after at least 10 years of experience in the Champions League at no less than 35 years of age.

  • Literally NOBODY including the USA gives a shit about the MLS. 

  • European players leave Europe only at the end of their career when they can't compete anymore and settle for some Arab or American semi retirement.

    He will probably have a stroke or something the day he realises it. Or maybe not. Nobody can be this oblivious on purpose.

  • I love that FC Bayern has more followers than the NFL.

  • The MLS is the retirement home for pro football players. As a Welshman I couldn’t name 10 players from the entire MLS league.

  • Thomas Muller unknown
..ROFL

  • I think the only reason that Europeans even know LA has a football team is cause David Beckham lost his mind and signed for it

    I mean lets not kid ourselves, whilst MLS has made major strides since it formed, its still a place where players who basically over the hill go to make some cash before they retire in a frankly easy low effort way

    I personally just think the entire closed format and the weird playoff nonsense they have is far too american and just not enough like proper football without the threat of relegation, same for the A-League

    I mean its just not a good system and is holding back the sport in the US, I mean even the widely criticised Jupiler Pro League which is alone in European football in having a stupid championship playoff at least maintains promotions and relegations

    Like most US sports systems, its too corporate, controlled and to be frank, I have never seen any praise for the league in footballing culture

  • common hitc sevens w

  • Oh f Off. Now I as a Cologne fan has to defend Bayern of all clubs?

    But the fact that Bayern MĂŒnchen is one of the most successful clubs in the world and one of the strongest sports brands in the world never strived the USians.

    Funny how nobody in Europe even heard about the Whitecaps before former German international of 14 years joined them
 đŸ« 

  • No one outside the US gives a shit about the MLS.

    Because there are clubs like Bayern Munich...

  • Alfie the goat appearing on here

  • Jesus wept

    Or did someone post your deliberately with Shit Americans say in mind?

  • That's a satirical post, right? They cannot be serious if they have even a shred of familiarity with football.

  • The guy posting those screenshots is being rhetoric, right?

    Yeah, the screenshots show Instagram followers where MĂŒller has more followers than MLS and Bayern MĂŒnchen has more than the NFL

  • guys, stop falling for obviously ragebait.

    There's a difference between stupidity and ragebait

    Someone how writes "provincial" while speaking of a team like Bayern is just throwing bait into the ocean, and everytime someone reacts to those posts, it's one more interaction they get

    Ignore those posts, and better yet flag them as spam

  • Tbf if America do the World Cup right. I don’t see why there couldn’t be a national squad 10/15 years from now who wouldn’t be a PROBLEM

    Like they were great after 94? When they last hosted a pretty successful world cup.