Yeah people don't understand that the reason they pay little in petrol and a lot in healthcare is not because of freedom, it's because their government is gifting their taxes to oil companies
The most generous oil "subsidy" I know of in the US is exemption from amortisation schedule for certain drilling expenses. But that's still a cost that has to be incurred long term by the driller, not the government, government will simply get more taxes later when the driller stops expanding. If the driller keeps increasing production for a long time it's a win-win really.
It's just such a fucking irrelevant fact. You could say oh Montana has x petrol price but the US as a whole is way bigger and had more cars so obviously has lower petrol prices, like what relevance has that at all?
Why do they think just because their total land area is large that people have to drive big mileage? Have they never heard of just building general conveniences closer?
I live in the south of the UK. I don't really just go ya know what, I really must drive from Cornwall to the north of Scotland because I need to maximise my car's odometer.
Living in the Scottish Highlands, we do sometimes do big long drives (I'm in the middle of one to pick up a motorcycle from Northern England, cause that's the closest one of the model I want), but they aren't frequent enough to be bothered by. Also fuel efficiency helps, naturally.
People have to drive big mileage in the US not because they want to, but because that's how the infrastructure of the country is built. It's not the fault of the current Americans that car companies spent a century bribing their government.
Landmass is relevant since it's still a factor in how much Americans have to drive. If the country was smaller so would be the distance between points of interest.
Not really. Most mileage is commuting and daily needs. Theirs is more because their city planning is absolutely awful. Not because their country is big. Else bigger countries like China would have more, instead of being broadly in line with European mileage.
As I initially stated, it's not really a common thing to drive one end to the other of a country just because.
The difference is Chinese infrastructure was not made with the profit of car companies in mind. American infrastructure was designed with the intention to stretch as much as possible the amount of driving people would have to do. The size of the country is not a cause of it, but still a factor in the actual numbers.
Ok, I HATE to be the one that defends the American.
But.
There are apparently 3 million road motor vehicles in Bulgaria. There is 259 million in the US. This is indeed over 50 times.
Furthermore, Bulgaria is 111,000 km², whereas the US is 9.867 million km². Once again, 5o times.
Now, I don't know what the total size of the US, nor the number of cars, has to do with Americans needing to drive more, however, the 50x part is actually correct. Did they guess? Well, yeah, obviously. But they were by some miracle, correct, even if there is no point to what they were saying and the overall statement was stupid.
I'm not sure how the data was collected, but I used whatever was on Wikipedia because it was under the same list so that it was more likely that it was done in a similar way.
The comment that the American replied to said "US has over double GDP per capita PPP compared to Bulgaria." I feel that a reply saying "and like 50x the space and cars" would obviously be referring specifically to Bulgaria.
The person was talking about the EU, not Bulgaria, that was just where the cheapest petrol was.
Americans do probably drive longer than Europeans. Europe has better developed infrastructure, making planes and trains a more viable option.
And no, the US is not larger than Europe. For reference, go to thetruesize.com Put in my country Norway. Drag it over the US. And that is one, small country in Europe. Or drag the US over to Europe for reference.
Whatever Americans save on petrol, they make up in medical expenses, so it evens out
Americans have their petrol subsidised like some filthy fucking commies.
Yeah people don't understand that the reason they pay little in petrol and a lot in healthcare is not because of freedom, it's because their government is gifting their taxes to oil companies
The most generous oil "subsidy" I know of in the US is exemption from amortisation schedule for certain drilling expenses. But that's still a cost that has to be incurred long term by the driller, not the government, government will simply get more taxes later when the driller stops expanding. If the driller keeps increasing production for a long time it's a win-win really.
How does that work? I've not heard of them doing that before.
That last post is a pretty long detour to say 'our infrastructure is shit'
It's just such a fucking irrelevant fact. You could say oh Montana has x petrol price but the US as a whole is way bigger and had more cars so obviously has lower petrol prices, like what relevance has that at all?
Well they have the most people per capita in the world
duh
Why do they think just because their total land area is large that people have to drive big mileage? Have they never heard of just building general conveniences closer?
I live in the south of the UK. I don't really just go ya know what, I really must drive from Cornwall to the north of Scotland because I need to maximise my car's odometer.
Living in the Scottish Highlands, we do sometimes do big long drives (I'm in the middle of one to pick up a motorcycle from Northern England, cause that's the closest one of the model I want), but they aren't frequent enough to be bothered by. Also fuel efficiency helps, naturally.
People have to drive big mileage in the US not because they want to, but because that's how the infrastructure of the country is built. It's not the fault of the current Americans that car companies spent a century bribing their government.
So fuck all to do with landmass like I said
Landmass is relevant since it's still a factor in how much Americans have to drive. If the country was smaller so would be the distance between points of interest.
Not really. Most mileage is commuting and daily needs. Theirs is more because their city planning is absolutely awful. Not because their country is big. Else bigger countries like China would have more, instead of being broadly in line with European mileage.
As I initially stated, it's not really a common thing to drive one end to the other of a country just because.
The difference is Chinese infrastructure was not made with the profit of car companies in mind. American infrastructure was designed with the intention to stretch as much as possible the amount of driving people would have to do. The size of the country is not a cause of it, but still a factor in the actual numbers.
Ok, I HATE to be the one that defends the American.
But.
There are apparently 3 million road motor vehicles in Bulgaria. There is 259 million in the US. This is indeed over 50 times.
Furthermore, Bulgaria is 111,000 km², whereas the US is 9.867 million km². Once again, 5o times.
Now, I don't know what the total size of the US, nor the number of cars, has to do with Americans needing to drive more, however, the 50x part is actually correct. Did they guess? Well, yeah, obviously. But they were by some miracle, correct, even if there is no point to what they were saying and the overall statement was stupid.
You cannot compare this data as in the US, VAN and RAM 2500 are counted under this 259M, and in Europe, it will be a different category.
I'm not sure how the data was collected, but I used whatever was on Wikipedia because it was under the same list so that it was more likely that it was done in a similar way.
EU, not Bulgaria
The comment that the American replied to said "US has over double GDP per capita PPP compared to Bulgaria." I feel that a reply saying "and like 50x the space and cars" would obviously be referring specifically to Bulgaria.
The person was talking about the EU, not Bulgaria, that was just where the cheapest petrol was.
Americans do probably drive longer than Europeans. Europe has better developed infrastructure, making planes and trains a more viable option.
And no, the US is not larger than Europe. For reference, go to thetruesize.com Put in my country Norway. Drag it over the US. And that is one, small country in Europe. Or drag the US over to Europe for reference.
Had to read that carefully, just to see if it was spelled as unpossible.