I don’t know much about him, but I’ve seen that he was always a solid backup netminder and great In his 3 previous seasons in the NHL (32-14-8) with Vegas and Winnipeg .. his overall career numbers look pretty solid. I’m not sure what his career has been like since, but I’m hoping he can play at that level again.
Probably for the AHL until he walks at the end of the year. Only way I see him with the Sharks is if Ned gets moved. The entire trade is kind of a nothing burger as of now. I think we will see other moves after it.
It's a trade that creates opportunity. They no longer need to trade for a backup goalie if they trade Nedeljkovic, and they no longer need to trade for a depth defensive D if they trade Ferraro. They can then only go after the pieces they want and maximize value IF they choose to trade Ned or Ferraro.
When these trades have happened in the past, we have needed to get a value piece (prospect or draft pick) plus a buy low replacement piece. An example is Blackwood for a 2nd (thing of value) and Gergiev (replacement) plus other pieces. We still can pick up other contracts, but now we don't need to and we can pick between players if we choose to
We literally cannot pick up an additional contract. We are at 50/50 without counting Misa, this was a 2 for 2 and didnt change anything there. If they want to keep Misa they need to ship someone out and not take a contract back.
The trade definetly sets the team up better to move around pieces without tearing a massive hole in the team tho.
Yes but this move was made to put the team in a power position for a trade of Ferraro or Nedeljkovic and is independent of anything regarding Misa. They can still scratch Misa for as long as they like until a trade or contract release has been made or player goes on IR, i believe (might be wrong here). We are still in a decent position contract wise and won't need to pay anything much (if anything) to create a roster spot. At worst we don't trade Ferraro and then we can flip Allan for a draft pick or Brossoit to a contender for peanuts to be a 3rd string protection against injury
IR doesnt free up a slot for Misa if they want him to play his 10th game and beyond, they need to move a contract. IR doesnt remove a contract from the max contract limit, it just opens up a roster spot on the 23 man NHL roster.
Misas ELC currently doesnt count against the contract limit, because of his age. If he gets to game 10 it will, therefore Sharks would have 51 contracts.
Generally, I agree that this trade was made to set up other moves, but for now I dont think it moves the needle all that much besides being a contingency and Allan potentially being a tiny bit safer bet to turn into something than Furlong.
It was a depth trade. Which is what you do when you think are you making a playoff run.
There is a smaller chance this isn’t just an AHL deal and this is part of griers greater plan. Management and coaching clearly believes asky is the starter from here on out. If Brossoit can return to his prior form then he will be a serviceable backup to asky. And if that happens Ned is a very valuable rental to a contender. He has played well this year and seems to be a solid enough and calming goaltender which is perfect as backup on a good team looking to make a deep run.
There’s a larger chance this is just an AHL deal and backup in case one of our goalies gets injured long term. We DO NOT want to have to rely on skarek or carriere as backups on our nhl squad.
But I do think almost every deal and move from here on. Grier will have acquiring a RD at the forefront of his mind. He wants to be ready to pull the trigger if the opportunity comes.
🙏nemec come to us pls🙏
I listen to Elliotte Friedman’s 32 Thoughts and Brossiot was a name mentioned that contending teams with goalie issues were looking at. Don’t recall the exact episode (definitely around late Nov-Dec) but teams were interested in him. There’s so many moves that can be made and Ned may have more trade value than LB (who can be an effective backup for Asky). Should be fun to see what comes of this even if we do not trade Brossiot or Ned cause we just freed cap space for next year.
Cap space was never really an issue with this team.
Oh definitely but we had to hit the floor this year… that was the only issue
Yeah I agree it 100% feels like a “calm before the storm” type of move.
This is an onion trade. To quote Shrek “onions have layers” and this trade has layers to it. The obvious surface level of the trade that everyone has talked about is you’re upgrading your AHL defense and goaltending.
When you start to look below the surface (peel back the layers) you notice more. For starters, Brossoit is a more than capable back up. Besides the fact he can help stabilize the Cuda pipes, he can step in IF Ned gets dealt. There’s no doubt in my mind (or anyone else’s really) that a team has already inquired about Ned. Unlike last year when we HAD to take back a goalie, we could move Ned without taking a goalie back. So Ned could end up being the contract that’s moved for a pick to make room for Misa and we have a goalie who can back up Asky and help our playoff push. Ned could also be moved with another expiring contract (let’s just say Liljegren for example) for a young RHD (maybe we’d have to add a pick?)
Then you look at Allan. As mentioned he’s an upgrade to your AHL D (and does have a little bit of NHL experience). He’s very much a DFD (defensive defensemen). The Sharks have 5 defensemen that are going to be UFA (Fro-arro, Liljegren, Leddy, Klingberg and Desharnais) and 2 that’ll be RFA (Muk and Iorio). Allan is going to be an RFA too, but that gives you some who’s future you control, where the UFA can and likely will be gone (either via trade or walking). I’m not saying Allan is going to be on the 23 next year, just some control on who you can keep under contract easier for next year (mainly the Cuda) but as mentioned with SO many UFA, 1 or more of those guys are going to go (I wouldn’t be shocked at some point if Leddy, Klingberg AND Liljegren or Fro-arro are all gone by the TDL).
Professor Hockey mentioned Carolina as a team that could be looking for a goalie. Meow they’d probably like to move a goalie in return, but let’s say they don’t. Carolina is also looking to upgrade their defense and center position. Maybe we send them Ned and Liljegren for Badinka? This would help our RHD prospect pool AND free up a contract for Misa.
Edmonton always needs a goalie, maybe we can trade Ned and our 2nd for their first in 27 (making our 26 from them unprotected :P)
All joking aside on the potential trades, I wouldn’t be surprised if Ned is moved before the Olympic break with the likely return being a pick (or RHD prospect if another contract is added)
He will become the best goaltender to ever play for this franchise count on it
Even better than Carey Price??
Shit that’s tough neither guy has lost a single game while with us
Jets fan here -- He was as good as Hellebyuck when he was with the Jets, maybe even better. Helle got run out of town by Colorado in the playoffs and the coach chose not to put Brossoit in once even though the year before he was lights out in Vegas in the playoffs when they won a cup.
The guy is a stud, he was meant to be a starter in Chicago but freak injuries, surgery kept him out of net that first season. I really hope he can stay healthy and finds his way back to the NHL, also an incredible dude by all accounts.
It's an interesting move by SJ. One of those guys with a history of injuries, who would otherwise be desired by every single team wanting to be a contender. So this is sort of a calculated risk by SJ, see if he can find his game and stay healthy because if he does he is better than Askarov.
I mean, with papa celebrini in the sphere, every shark will be as tough as terminator
He's an upgrade to both our AHL goalies and allows us to trade Ned if we wanted to. Also protects us if Askarov or Ned get hurt.
We didn't have an nhl ready third goalie, and have been fortunate not to need one so far. Sometimes it's just a minor depth move.
Yeah the main thing he gives us is goaltending depth in the event of an injury, and also some flexibility if Grier gets a good offer for Nedeljkovic. Nothing earth shattering, but good insurance.
Agree with you two. Just a depth move. I don't see this as a launch point for some big trade involving Ned. Those types of comments sound like wishful thinking. Maybe there is a desire for a deep Cuda run.
It’s a trade deadline prep deal
He’s 32 years old and has been out for 2 seasons due to surgeries right? I’m pretty sure his best years are well behind him…
Can Brossoit even play in the AHL? Beyond a conditioning stint? The AHL has a lot of rules that make it harder for veterans to spend much time there.
But, I really think this is about a shuffle in preparation for a bigger trade. Have 3 good goalies give GMMG a ton of leverage to get a lot back. The right D in front of any of our goalies will make do amazing things.
I don't really understand the trade if the intention is to bring him up to SJ. If it is a trade for the AHL then I absolutely love it, because Skarek is awful. I don't understand why Davis hasn't gotten his shot yet, even if the "intended plan" for him was to mirror Carriere's path (a year in ECHL then AHL) with how bad Skarek has been.
It is a little baffling though how we couldn't use this trade to facilitate dumping a contract though. Brossoit really shouldn't have cost anything, as generally I think the point of the trade for Chicago was to help him get ice time. Like we didn't need Allen back, or at least also could have moved Bowers since we were giving up the Ellis LTIR booster and also a higher pick.