So you’re suggesting that in 2020, during a republican presidency, the republican controlled state of Georgia cheated so that a democrat would win the presidency. But in 2024, under a democratic president, the same republican controlled state of Georgia let the republican presidential candidate win? And there was no tom-foolery?
We will be playing 2020 election wack-a-mole forever. No matter how many conspiracies are debunked, they will find another to present without any loss of coincidence given the last 50 attempts.
Defeating this tribalstic aversion to the truth is one of the top five challenges of mankind
They failed to meet the correct minimum requirements for certified ballots, namely that they lacked poll workers' signatures verifying that they were properly cast and verified as legitimate at the bare minimum. It has also been noted that the fraudulent ballots were filled out too perfectly, with a lack of normal hand movements corresponding to normal bubble-filling behavior. This implies that the ballots may have been filled ahead of time, before they should have been legally accessible to be filled out.
There were 315,000 fraudulent votes fraudulently counted in Fulton County. 11,779 votes for Biden is 0.37% of that total number. If all had been properly discounted from the vote totals, whether there were more for Trump, Biden, or a third candidate, Biden would not have won simply because a very small fraction of the total fraudulent votes were for Biden. So yes, this would have changes the voting results.
They were not "fraudulent" ballots; these ballots were recounted twice including with a hand recount of every ballot. Voter verification was conducted using ID.
Imagine your ballot was delivered to the counting location but the driver went over the speed limit to get it there. Would you be OK with the governments THROWING AWAY your vote because the government made a mistake by breaking the speed limit? That's what you're asking us to do with 315k ballots.
Just because poll workers failed a clerical step doesn't meant we should throw out the votes and disenfranchise Americans. Not only should we not do that, but there is also no legal way in Georgia to do that.
Maintaining chain of custody is in itself a step required by law for the ballot to remain legal. Chain of custody was broken, therefore it was illegal by state code to present for certification any count that included them.
I looked it up and apparently, NO, this was not a legal requirement, it was a procedural step. It was not illegal to count those ballots.
And again, I keep asking and nobody answers. If the government failed to sign a document related to YOUR ballot, would you be OK with your vote being thrown out if you knew that it would flip the result to the candidate you didn't vote for?
Your analogy is bad, "fellow conservative." Failure to follow proper protocol that establishes and verifies the votes results casts doubt on the votes themselves and calls the election into question. Improperly following speed limits doesn't break chain of custody or affect the votes themselves.
The clerical steps ARE CRITICAL because they establish a chain of custody. A verified, clear cut list of responsible people that can be tried and questioned should anything go wrong. The problem is that by not signing the votes, THE POLL WORKERS THEMSELVES DISENFRANCHISED the voters. By not following the legal requirements, they failed to certify that the votes are actual votes and malfeasance can then not be ruled out without reasonable doubt. The fact that basically election security measures could not be followed in heavily democrat-loaded areas heavily suggests the possibility of vote tampering.
Also, votes can be discounted for any legitimate reason, including failure to properly fill put the ballot. The proper recourse is to discount the vote. This isn't a new practice.
As I said, that is simply not how things work. We don't throw out ballots because the government fails a step in the process. That isn't how we do it, and it also isn't legal.
I know for a 100% certain fact that if the government threw out your vote because they failed an administrative step and that resulted in your state election flipping to Democrat.... you and the entire MAGA crowd would have already declared civil war.
If you're simply "raising concern" and you're not actually suggesting that all those ballots were fraudulent and need to be thrown out... then good news, because the election was recounted several times including with a full hand recount, and Georgia has good voter verification laws.
Recounting fraudulent ballots doesn’t uncover, prevent, or address vote fraud. As your comment demonstrates, it actually compounds and lends false legitimacy to the fraud. In cases of doubt, an audit is necessary to determine if fraud is involved.
Audits happened all over Georgia, the 2020 election was probably the most scrutinized in history. You at this point have no proof that the ballots in Fulton Country were fraudulent.
Nobody seems to want to answer my question. Please answer this question if you want to keep talking about this.
If the government made a procedural mistake handling YOUR ballot, would you be OK with the government deciding to throw out your ballot and not count it? What if that flipped the election to the candidate you didn't vote for?
If you cannot verify the chain of custody, then you cannot verify the tabular tapes are genuine. The process is in place to protect election integrity. You are making the argument that someone’s ballot might not be counted because of a minor issue that can be overlooked. Surly 315000 votes consists of several different candidate votes so all would share in the changes to the votes
According to this article there are loads of missing tapes (100+) as well. Tabular tapes are apart of the verification process. At this point it’s a big failure on Fulton county to produce a clean election. There are key verification steps that were missed for thousands of votes that degrades the people’s trust in the election as a whole.
Good thing they conducted audits, recounts, hand tabulation, require ID verification to vote, heard challenges in court, opened up their election process for everyone to scrutinize, debated these results in the legislature, certified the results, and sent them to congress to hear any final objections.
I understand that missing a step like this is bad, but people in this sub are frothing at the mouth to declare the election illegitimate; which is simply not proportional to the actual mistake.
Biden would not have won simply because a very small fraction of the total fraudulent votes were for Biden.
If this were true, then including the fraudulent vote batch wouldve lowered Biden's average... Meaning if they were discounted, he would've won by a wider margin.
I've read it's not fraudulent as these voting officials were supposed to sign these tabular tapes and didn't. My question is if it wasn't a mistake, why were they required to sign them in the first place. I also seems odd as Georgia always seems to be making the news about voting issues. Why is that. If its no a requirement for these folks to sign these tabular tapes, then it shouldn't be required for these ballots to be signed by the voters. Which of course, makes voting completely void in our country.
Do you have a link to the article? I would like to read more about this.
Same here.
Article please
https://thegeorgiasun.com/government/your-vote/inside-the-fulton-county-315000-vote-controversy/
Thank you
We want to see Brads bank account for the last 7 years. Bet even Nancy, Omar, tampon Tim would look the same.
So you’re suggesting that in 2020, during a republican presidency, the republican controlled state of Georgia cheated so that a democrat would win the presidency. But in 2024, under a democratic president, the same republican controlled state of Georgia let the republican presidential candidate win? And there was no tom-foolery?
We will be playing 2020 election wack-a-mole forever. No matter how many conspiracies are debunked, they will find another to present without any loss of coincidence given the last 50 attempts.
Defeating this tribalstic aversion to the truth is one of the top five challenges of mankind
Fulton County is democratically controlled. It also has a rich history of corruption.
I have questions:
In what way were these ballots illegal? Do those standards need to be adjusted?
That number of ballots could have changed the outcome, but did they?
They failed to meet the correct minimum requirements for certified ballots, namely that they lacked poll workers' signatures verifying that they were properly cast and verified as legitimate at the bare minimum. It has also been noted that the fraudulent ballots were filled out too perfectly, with a lack of normal hand movements corresponding to normal bubble-filling behavior. This implies that the ballots may have been filled ahead of time, before they should have been legally accessible to be filled out.
There were 315,000 fraudulent votes fraudulently counted in Fulton County. 11,779 votes for Biden is 0.37% of that total number. If all had been properly discounted from the vote totals, whether there were more for Trump, Biden, or a third candidate, Biden would not have won simply because a very small fraction of the total fraudulent votes were for Biden. So yes, this would have changes the voting results.
They were not "fraudulent" ballots; these ballots were recounted twice including with a hand recount of every ballot. Voter verification was conducted using ID.
Imagine your ballot was delivered to the counting location but the driver went over the speed limit to get it there. Would you be OK with the governments THROWING AWAY your vote because the government made a mistake by breaking the speed limit? That's what you're asking us to do with 315k ballots.
Just because poll workers failed a clerical step doesn't meant we should throw out the votes and disenfranchise Americans. Not only should we not do that, but there is also no legal way in Georgia to do that.
Maintaining chain of custody is in itself a step required by law for the ballot to remain legal. Chain of custody was broken, therefore it was illegal by state code to present for certification any count that included them.
I looked it up and apparently, NO, this was not a legal requirement, it was a procedural step. It was not illegal to count those ballots.
And again, I keep asking and nobody answers. If the government failed to sign a document related to YOUR ballot, would you be OK with your vote being thrown out if you knew that it would flip the result to the candidate you didn't vote for?
Your analogy is bad, "fellow conservative." Failure to follow proper protocol that establishes and verifies the votes results casts doubt on the votes themselves and calls the election into question. Improperly following speed limits doesn't break chain of custody or affect the votes themselves.
The clerical steps ARE CRITICAL because they establish a chain of custody. A verified, clear cut list of responsible people that can be tried and questioned should anything go wrong. The problem is that by not signing the votes, THE POLL WORKERS THEMSELVES DISENFRANCHISED the voters. By not following the legal requirements, they failed to certify that the votes are actual votes and malfeasance can then not be ruled out without reasonable doubt. The fact that basically election security measures could not be followed in heavily democrat-loaded areas heavily suggests the possibility of vote tampering.
Also, votes can be discounted for any legitimate reason, including failure to properly fill put the ballot. The proper recourse is to discount the vote. This isn't a new practice.
As I said, that is simply not how things work. We don't throw out ballots because the government fails a step in the process. That isn't how we do it, and it also isn't legal.
I know for a 100% certain fact that if the government threw out your vote because they failed an administrative step and that resulted in your state election flipping to Democrat.... you and the entire MAGA crowd would have already declared civil war.
If you're simply "raising concern" and you're not actually suggesting that all those ballots were fraudulent and need to be thrown out... then good news, because the election was recounted several times including with a full hand recount, and Georgia has good voter verification laws.
Recounting fraudulent ballots doesn’t uncover, prevent, or address vote fraud. As your comment demonstrates, it actually compounds and lends false legitimacy to the fraud. In cases of doubt, an audit is necessary to determine if fraud is involved.
Audits happened all over Georgia, the 2020 election was probably the most scrutinized in history. You at this point have no proof that the ballots in Fulton Country were fraudulent.
Nobody seems to want to answer my question. Please answer this question if you want to keep talking about this.
If the government made a procedural mistake handling YOUR ballot, would you be OK with the government deciding to throw out your ballot and not count it? What if that flipped the election to the candidate you didn't vote for?
If you cannot verify the chain of custody, then you cannot verify the tabular tapes are genuine. The process is in place to protect election integrity. You are making the argument that someone’s ballot might not be counted because of a minor issue that can be overlooked. Surly 315000 votes consists of several different candidate votes so all would share in the changes to the votes
According to this article there are loads of missing tapes (100+) as well. Tabular tapes are apart of the verification process. At this point it’s a big failure on Fulton county to produce a clean election. There are key verification steps that were missed for thousands of votes that degrades the people’s trust in the election as a whole.
https://www.wrdw.com/2025/12/23/fulton-county-admits-verifying-votes-without-poll-worker-signatures/?outputType=amp
Good thing they conducted audits, recounts, hand tabulation, require ID verification to vote, heard challenges in court, opened up their election process for everyone to scrutinize, debated these results in the legislature, certified the results, and sent them to congress to hear any final objections.
I understand that missing a step like this is bad, but people in this sub are frothing at the mouth to declare the election illegitimate; which is simply not proportional to the actual mistake.
If this were true, then including the fraudulent vote batch wouldve lowered Biden's average... Meaning if they were discounted, he would've won by a wider margin.
It was just a "clerical error" in Democrats favor.
As they all seem to be…for some reason.
Any real lawyers here? Serious question. What happens to Trump's indictment now?
Absolutely nothing
wow!
I've read it's not fraudulent as these voting officials were supposed to sign these tabular tapes and didn't. My question is if it wasn't a mistake, why were they required to sign them in the first place. I also seems odd as Georgia always seems to be making the news about voting issues. Why is that. If its no a requirement for these folks to sign these tabular tapes, then it shouldn't be required for these ballots to be signed by the voters. Which of course, makes voting completely void in our country.