Sites are ordered by global Similarweb rank as of 2024-02-07
Criteria for inclusion:
General topic.
Has nested comments (at least 10 levels of nesting)
Content primarily in English.
Content accessible to logged-out users.
| Order |
Site |
Similarweb Rank |
Release Year |
Federated |
Source Code |
| 1 |
reddit.com |
17 |
2005 |
No |
proprietary |
| 2 |
disqus.com/channels |
2,238 |
2023 |
No |
proprietary |
| 3 |
scored.co |
33,555 |
2019 |
No |
proprietary |
| 4 |
lemmy.world |
55,432 |
2023 |
ActivityPub |
https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy |
| 5 |
hive.blog |
66,439 |
2020 |
No |
https://gitlab.syncad.com/hive |
| 6 |
peakd.com |
67,716 |
2020 |
No |
proprietary |
| 7 |
rdrama․net |
106,123 |
2021 |
No |
https://fsdfsd.net/rDrama/rDrama |
| 8 |
kbin.social |
116,613 |
2023 |
ActivityPub |
https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core |
| 9 |
saidit.net |
237,411 |
2018 |
No |
https://github.com/libertysoft3/saidit |
| 10 |
tildes.net |
355,656 |
2018 |
No |
https://gitlab.com/tildes/tildes |
| 11 |
poal.co |
370,363 |
2018 |
No |
proprietary |
| 12 |
voat.xyz |
468,961 |
2021 |
No |
proprietary |
| 13 |
raddle.me |
750,789 |
2017 |
No |
https://gitlab.com/postmill/Postmill |
| 14 |
trustcafe.io |
1,113,642 |
2023 |
No |
proprietary |
| 15 |
coracle.social |
1,300,680 |
2022 |
Nostr |
https://github.com/coracle-social/coracle |
| 16 |
hubski.com |
1,729,443 |
2011 |
No |
proprietary |
| 17 |
squabblr.co |
1,873,619 |
2022 |
No |
proprietary |
| 18 |
piefed.social |
2,651,664 |
2024 |
ActivityPub |
https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi |
| 19 |
ramble.pw |
2,755,666 |
2020 |
No |
https://gitlab.com/postmill/Postmill |
| 20 |
discuit.net |
2,774,870 |
2023 |
No |
https://github.com/discuitnet/discuit |
| 21 |
satellite.earth |
5,074,453 |
2020 |
Nostr |
https://github.com/lovvtide/satellite-web |
| 22 |
tipestry.com |
5,365,584 |
2017 |
No |
proprietary |
| 23 |
arete.network |
5,826,408 |
2022 |
No |
proprietary |
| 24 |
fedia.io |
6,464,455 |
2023 |
ActivityPub |
https://github.com/MbinOrg/mbin |
| 25 |
pcmemes.net |
6,529,803 |
2021 |
No |
https://pcmemes.net/site/source |
| 26 |
non.io |
7,756,857 |
2023 |
No |
https://github.com/jjcm/nonio |
| 27 |
spyke.social |
9,035,768 |
2023 |
No |
proprietary |
| 28 |
phuks.co |
9,961,593 |
2016 |
No |
https://github.com/Phuks-co/throat |
| 29 |
speakbits.com |
10,709,449 |
2023 |
No |
proprietary |
| 30 |
headcycle.com |
11,512,818 |
2016 |
No |
proprietary |
| 31 |
commentcastles.org |
12,313,956 |
2023 |
No |
https://github.com/ferg1e/comment-castles |
| 32 |
zsync.xyz |
13,122,595 |
2022 |
No |
proprietary |
| 33 |
reclown.com |
14,474,499 |
2023 |
No |
proprietary |
| 34 |
smashr.com |
14,973,937 |
2023 |
No |
proprietary |
| 35 |
livefilter.com |
16,494,556 |
2020 |
No |
proprietary |
| 36 |
sociables.com |
18,804,709 |
2023 |
No |
proprietary |
| 37 |
limereader.com |
19,546,949 |
2023 |
No |
proprietary |
| 38 |
comsta.net |
20,294,813 |
2023 |
No |
proprietary |
| 39 |
narwhal.city |
20,295,112 |
2021 |
ActivityPub |
https://github.com/lotide-org/lotide |
| 40 |
mainchan.com |
21,044,325 |
2022 |
No |
proprietary |
| 41 |
artram.app |
-- |
2023 |
No |
proprietary |
| 42 |
flingup.com |
-- |
2023 |
No |
proprietary |
| 43 |
clubsall.com |
-- |
2023 |
No |
proprietary |
| 44 |
shpong.com |
-- |
2023 |
No |
https://github.com/commune-os/commune-server |
| 45 |
yunanimous.com |
-- |
2023 |
No |
https://gitlab.com/postmill/Postmill |
| 46 |
klique.io |
-- |
2023 |
No |
proprietary |
| 47 |
seedit.netlify.app |
-- |
2023 |
No |
https://github.com/plebbit/seedit |
| 48 |
matrix.gvid.tv |
-- |
2021 |
No |
proprietary |
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Similarweb ranking are...let's just say bizarre.
Take total visits in January
Speakbits - 224 Headcycle - 11.3k
How are they computing global rank off of these numbers?
I was wondering that myself. Are the other numbers they show taken into account?
SpeakBits - 2.44 pages per visit with an average 1 minute visit time
Head cycle - 0.14 pages per visit with an average 0.25 minute visit time.
Multiplying them all together would yield 546.56 vs 385, which I guess makes some kind of sense.
EDIT: changed posts to pages
Do you mean pages per visit?
Also, how can you have 0.14 pages per visit?
Yes, absolutely meant pages. Fixed that!
Looking around on their support pages: "Similarweb calculates pages per visit by dividing the total number of pageviews during a specified time period by the total visits to the website during that time period."
To get 0.14 pages per visit, it would mean you had 1,666 pageviews for 11,900 visitors. This suggests that some of those 11,900 visitors never viewed a page and weren't engaged visitors. This would be corroborated with the average visit duration being lower.
I'm still as confused as you are though. It seems like their algorithm weights these in a way that made your higher number of pageviews rank lower.
Thanks for looking into it and doing the math.
It's still weird.
Let's say you have one site that gets a thousand views but only the main page by 1000 users and you have a second site that gets 100 views (each) of 4 different pages by 10 people.
It would seem, but SimilarWeb's algo that the second site would raking higher than the first, just like what happened with Speakbits and Headcycle.
I guess it sort of makes sense...I guess.
I'm curious as to your decision to list all ActivityPub platforms separately, but not listing any Lemmy instances other than lemmyworld. Funneling all reddit users directly into the largest Lemmy instance is somewhat antithetical to the advantages of a federated model.
Would you consider either adding other Lemmy instances (like lemm.ee and lemmy.zip) to the list, or linking to join-lemmy.org rather than to the lemmyworld?
That would be nice indeed
Also, I just had a look, and lemmy.world has a rank of 56,476 (https://www.similarweb.com/website/lemmy.world/#overview) compared to 89139 for scored.co (https://www.similarweb.com/website/scored.co/#overview)
Discuit is 1,088,000 (https://www.similarweb.com/website/discuit.net/#overview)
Down with Reddit and Spez
Thank you~
np <3
Lemmy should be the first thing in the list.
Is there an update for this year?
As someone building a community that doesn't use nested comments, can some of you share what it is that makes nested comments your preferred way to read threads? I'm also interested to learn if anyone here prefers chronological replies as well.
Thanks for keeping these lists up to date.
It allows people to reply to individual comments and have their replies easily linked to that comment, as opposed to replying to the entire thread then you have groups of comments that are replies to an original comment, as opposed to a long string of replies that span multiple pages, some of which to the original post but many to other comments. It makes them more organized.
Modern flavours of nested comments still have some problems with all of these, but it's still better than nothing.
Chronological replies are very useful if they're implemented alongside a nested system. If used right, they can negate the unfair advantage of earlier commentors, and use the userbase as a layer of filtration / curation.
Thank you so much for sharing this feedback. There are definitely pros and cons to both systems, so it might take some experimentation to get it right.
I have an update on the roadmap that will add a toggle to show the most helpful content, filtering out irrelevant content. That's still at least a few months away, along with some other big UX updates.
Once that rolls out, I'm looking forward to hearing more feedback. Thank you!
I implore you to read what precedes https://meta.discourse.org/t/threaded-discussion-is-ultimately-too-complex-to-survive-on-the-public-internet/63172/72?u=rokejulianlockhart in its thread.
Which ones let you discuss things that might be illegal in your country? Like drugs.
I suppose Matrix does. You can talk about drugs but I don't think I would let you sell them. But there is no reason to ban discussion about drugs. Even wikipedia doesn't do that.
I think you should remove arete.network as it contains pretty racist communities.
That's not the only one. I opened a few of them and saw menosphere shit and other alt right loser material
I understand the list creator doesn't want to include this, but Gab is still the best alternative, it meets all his requirements except for having more than 2 levels of nested comments.
This ?
https://apps.gab.com/
Yes. Or just use the website gab.com.
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Might be useful to lift that restriction. There is no need for a Reddit alternative to be "general topic", when you can simply use different sites for different topics. That restriction is especially problematic since it hides the most viable and active Reddit alternatives, namely:
Both are tech focused, so not "general topic", but unlike so many other alternative they are actually alive, have been around for decades and are not just filled with random memes or leftist/rightwing propaganda.
Anybody have more topic-specific Reddit alternatives?
Edit: Wikipedia has a list.
I added nested comments (reply trees) to bluedwarf.top yesterday, but each user must enable it in his settings, because users on cellphones may not want it. I added this feature specifically because I don't think it should be used as a criterion for separating good social media sites from bad ones, and I wanted to demonstrate how easy it really is to add. The technical features of a site are insignificant compared to the quality of its users.
Has anyone tried Goat Matrix? https://goatmatrix.net/
Here's a new one called Orbyt: https://www.orbyt.social/
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Great, let me know what you think
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I'm not against the concept, but dislike unorganized and non-text based stuff I can't easily sort through and find things.
The search function returned "0 results" no matter what string. Even words as simple as cat or dog.
I miss newsgroups. I'm disappointed they're not still the thing. And yes, I fully agree alternatives to reddit need to succeed. When one closes out most other options, they get greedy, and enshittification takes over.
Hopefully you will give it a chance and join me as first movers. I just can't take reddits, just to name a few problems, weird point system and awful moderation rules anymore.
A better alternative needs to succeed.
They don't have an app?
I wouldn't know. I don't use crappy apps for things that should work fine in a browser. Just change your useragent to desktop on any site that does that to remove their artificial slow-downs.