It sounds like a project. From what I picked up it sounds like they were supposed to act as consultants coming into an airline and presenting a database structure prototype for their business complete with ER diagrams and what sounded like a sample RDBMS table structure in Third Normal Form (3NF). It sounds like students turned in ER diagrams that were missing important things like relationships and cardinality and that their table structures weren't normalized at all, with the added bonus that they did no research into what kind of entities may exist and need to be captured for an airline and everything was done by hand with terrible hand writing instead of using a tool to help with organization and presentation.
Basically, this is the comp sci equivalent of a professor asking you for a 25 page paper on a subject using at least 10 sources typed and formatted in Times New Roman, 12pt, Single Spaced. You then turn around and hand in 5 pages, hand written, and using Reddit and ChatGPT as sources.
What’s even crazier is that he talks about this being a 4000 level graduate course, but in my 2 year college program I teach here in Canada, we cover ER diagramming and design including normalization up to 4th normal form in the FIRST semester of year 1.
All of those students should be capable of doing this if they are really year 4 uni students.
That's kind of wild. My 4 year degrees this was a 300 level class focused specifically on databases for an entire semester. First year first semester is basically just intro to comp sci where everything is touched on at a high level. So we may talk about databases and what normalization is but nobody is doing 3NF or Boyce-Codd Normal Form. I don't think we ever normalized to 4NF, gun to my head I couldn't even tell you what that is but I also haven't dealt with database architecture since college, I have worked with DBA's but haven't been in a role doing have DB work directly.
Yeah we’re a jack of all trades program: teach them about 6-8 languages over 2 years and give them enough piecemeal knowledge in all the important areas they can teach themselves anything we don’t have time for.
Funny enough 4th normal form is really easy compared to BCNF, it’s about handling multi-valued dependencies.
Basically you can be in 3NF and still have repeated information in tables where an item has a bunch of variants (good example is car dealers only offer specific colours for each model, and the colour selection is not the same for each model. If you don’t move colour into its own table where you can pair up modelID with each colour that’s available, you’ll have to generate a new modelID for every new colour in the MODEL table, and then every other column will get repeated.)
It’s a lot more in your face compared to BCNF, which I really could spend an entire semester teaching the pattern recognition required to do that properly.
That makes sense. I'd say the general structure of my major over 4 years was learning about computers and how they work, history of computers and programming (no that's not where my name comes from, sorry Ada), basic C++ programming like scope and functions and some syntax and semantics, data structures in programming, algorithms which was really focused on search and sort methods (I just remember lots of big O analysis and notation), then databases which covered pretty much everything in the video and our discussion, then assembly which you couldn't pay me enough to remember, and somewhere in there we learned about compiled vs interpreted languages and the senior project was basically our professor gave us rules for a made up programming language and we had to build a parser which we elaborated on and refined until the final project which was basically her giving us 3 pages of different inputs that we had to successfully parse and either raise an error for or provide the output.
I remember not really liking my database class because I took it after already having done a summer internship where I had to basically learn about databases on the fly because I was on the internal web apps team who frequently dealt with DBAs for projects using both SQL server and Oracle databases (depending on how legacy that legacy app was lol). So when I was back in school the class was incredibly slow and boring as people struggled understanding the different JOINS and writing WHERE clauses that id almost completely checked out when we got to architecting our own databases. I still did well and retained some information but it felt like going on a really long summer break for that class and then showing up for the last month and a half lol.
I have experience with this having TA’d the database classes on both undergrad and graduate levels.
In undergrad, the courses focus on understanding database structure, basic SQL, and the basics of normalization. On the graduate level, we go further into normalization and all the various normal forms, as well as transact-SQL.
Some of the higher level undergrad students opt to take the graduate course, but the undergrad course is designed for students who have never seen a database before.
I think he actually said a 4000 level course and that the students were "not that far away from doing graduate level work." I assumed that meant they were 4th year undergrads.
i remember failing my SQL class years ago in college. not because i didnt know SQL but because the professor of the SQL class decided to include biology questions in the test. and i use SQL regularly at my job now. lol
This past fall in the class I'm taking every single one of us except for one person failed the mid term. When we came back from fall break we got an ass chewing as well. It didn't help that our instructor used to be a USMC D.I. We saw that past come out of him a few times.
This reminds me of my favorite history class in college. I'm sitting outside the classroom before our final and these two girls in the class are sitting there talking.
Girl one goes, "This class is so hard, he's such a bad professor. He expects us to know things he's never even talked about."
Girl two goes, "Did you read the books?"
Girl ones goes, "No."
Girl two goes, "Yah, me neither."
I'm just sitting there smiling to myself cause it's such a stupid conversation and they said everything completely genuinely without any introspection.
He was also a great professor, he taught us a super simple trick to studying that helped me in all my classes.
Oh right, ok so during class you still need to take good notes. You try to write down as much as you can, but make sure not to skip particularly important stuff (the order in which events happened, names, countries involved etc.).
Then at home, you read through your notes and write down the most important things to highlight on note cards. Then repeat and read through your note cards and write the most important points from that down onto even fewer note cards. Essentially you want to end with a single note card with the most vital info. And the process of re-reading and re-writing helped me remember everything and focus on what would actually be on the test.
He also told us that he doesn't care if you know every date, what's really important in history is the order that things happened and the causes and effects of them happening. Obviously you need to know some dates like 1776, but in general he didn't make us memorize dates and cared more if we knew generally when something happened and why.
I was never good at taking notes realtime. I had to pay attention to what was being taught to really absorb it. I did have a good memory so I was able to transcribe notes later. I always envied people who were good real time note takers.
Same, I can't write as fast as they can talk, and I can't concentrate on both at the same time. Provide powerpoints for students. The same notes have already been taken 100s of times. Compile that into a document, and let's pick through it, have a conversation around it, instead of the teacher regurgitating information as you struggle to write it down and try work out what is important or not.
I had professors that wrote the books. They would exclude sections from lectures to force you to read them. They would also change up editions so you couldn't buy used.
Had a professor who approached me on a feedback session and said my final essay was great but it was missing a source : his book.
I asked him to send me a copy of the manuscript, he said it was going to be published the week before the due date and his publisher didn't allow him to share copies.
The book was like $50 and I would at most use a single chapter.
I threw the book on my bibliography, never bought it, he didn't even notice.
A professor's magnum opus, the culmination of a lifetime of becoming the globally recognized expert on this one thing, a work that radically changes how a subject is approached in the academy...
is still probably 30-40 bucks at most, going way down from there if it's old enough that used paperbacks are on the market.
Most of those books are also actually, you know, decent books. They're written to be read, not just as a teaching tool.
Meanwhile in chemistry I had a professor who "wrote" a lab practices "supplement". It was a comb bound pamphlet, effectively, that was not directly used to actually teach any concepts. It was pretty much just a very souped up list of lab rules and best practices with some advice and diagrams thrown in. For eighty five fucking united states dollars. If he suspected you of not having bought it (the TA heavily hinted that it would be in our best interest to leave it visible on the desk) he'd find excuses to penalize you a few points here and there for bad lab practices regardless of the quality of your actual lab report.
Lol I was at work and kept trying to type out my answer and people kept coming up to me here to talk! I was thinking can y'all go away, I've got a reddit comment to finish damn.
Juat added it now though, hopefully it's not too anticlimactic
I had multiple professors that made you purchase books for their class that they never once touched on any topic within. Why? Because they were the author and they made money that way.
My favorite trick was from our history capstone class professor. The thesis project needed us to delve through a lot of more obscure sources trying to find relevant material. He suggested getting a pile of anything that seemed even remotely related to our topic, reading just the first and last few lines of each chapter/section, noting down the source title/where we got it/quick summary/list of their citations, and only doing deeper dives on the ones that seemed extremely relevant. Maybe it sounds obvious and simple now but at the time my goofy ass was just trying to plow through the entirety of every source and writing thorough notes. His method was a life saver when I compiled everything at the end.
In one of my classes half the class (including a couple of people in their 40s) were freaking out over having to read Frankenstein (which is less than 300 pages)
People mistake all rants as bad, when sometimes they are well meant like this. They all defeated the purpose of the class, and this teacher is 100% right for this.
They need to hear this. As he said, it's not worth his time that they aren't actually learning, because they don't care.
I got no problem if people started getting Fs at that point.
And I say as someone that’s been there. I took courses thinking I was going to be X when I graduated. I failed tests. And I sure as shit dropped that course and said nope. Not gonna be that.
It makes no fucking sense to just stay in shit when you are just not going to be able to cut it.
Thanks to some of the reforms instituted by the No Child Left Behind educational model, a lot of the students in that video are probably used to turning in crap work and being passed grade after grade. I also learned early in college to drop classes whereas I was destined to fail but if you've never had the experience of being flunked or held back, then what is the motivation not to push through an entire semester when you keep failing all the assignments and exams?
I kind of saw some of this in the late aughts when I went to college. A lot of Boomers kept treating those of us going for our bachelors degrees like it was such a feat to finish a four year degree. It just felt like High School+ in a lot of ways. Professors were way too easy on students and some peers were learning how to take advantage of that.
The degree inflation back then already seemed to be taking hold since it didn't really guarantee jobs right out of graduation. I think that reality hit a few of my peers since they continued into unnecessary masters degrees which still didn't lead to concrete opportunities. I was just ready to get into the workforce and put college behind me
I came in on the cusp of the change ~09-13ish. Professors back them seemed incredulous, and frankly insulted when they were getting calls from student's parents about grades.
Same. I took a few online courses in which there were a lot of "group discussion" and realized that the quality of work of my peers was so low that they may as well have been gaming the system. Then I asked myself what the hell I was working so hard for. My work was getting me to the same place as them but with totally unnecessary effort. I couldn't believe how low the bar was. Credential creep hit hard.
Peer review was always eye opening for me. I couldn’t believe some of the writing my classmates were turning in. On one hand, it made me wonder why I was stressing so hard about my work if that shit was considered passable. But on the other hand… it was a little embarrassing.
Right? Peer views and discussion boards were always revelatory for that exact reason. Made me realize I was totally qualified to self-identify as a writer, lol.
As someone who went to college 15 years and 2 years ago it is pathetic now. May as well just go on YouTube and learn yourself. The insane amount of foreign students who could barely speak English (which doesn't personally offend me, don't come at me) lowers the standards of the class because the Prof would have to fail almost all of them because they don't know English and therefore can't learn. It's not fair to them and it wasn't fair to me and the other students.
Right - also, the level of accommodations is insane. So many people gaming the system. Our company is only hiring PhDs as interns for data science now, and believe me, we have plenty of applicants. Even Masters isn't enough now.
As a teacher....ya I get it. You put alot of time and effort into lessons just for many students to half ass it or just not do it. Many of my students I try to offer help and still don't get a word back from them. Frustration can pile up quickly
I'm a teacher too. I've developed some fail-safes to ensure kids aren't just relying on AI to answer or write up their whole assignments, but the ones that just straight up don't do anything definitely drive me nuts because, 7/10 times, they have parents that will insist that I'm simply grading their kids unfairly and have a prejudice against their child.
In a way, Google classroom has been an absolute godsend because the number of times I've had parents claim "well, my son/daughter didn't know about this!" I can point out that, actually, it's on the classroom, I reminded them, they opened it up and edited it with their name as I require for every assignment, so yeah they did actually know about and before you claim they didn't know when it was due, it's right there above the "submit" button. It silenced a lot of irate parents for me.
Edit: I know this is a college Prof giving this rant, and frankly to anyone saying he was out of line: this is college. No one is forced to be here, and if they fail that's 100% on them. In mandatory school (high school, junior high, and elementary), we as teachers are not only expected to accommodate all kids no matter what, we face consequences if we have too many DGAF kids failing, and by DGAF I mean they don't hand in a single assignment and tell you to "fuck off" when you remind them about the work. Tell a prof to fuck off, they'll toss that right back at you and boot you from the class.
When I was in uni I would have been MORTIFIED if my parents tried to talk to one of my college professors about a grade. If I went moaning to my parents about a grade they'd shrug and say "Do better next time." There was no argument or parental advocacy to be had. They aren't going to pick up the phone to email or call someone with vastly more experience and education than me (and probably them) to tell them how they're wrong. The professor didn't give me a bad grade based on my effort, it was based on my results. And I was literally an adult, why would I need/want my parents to stan for me when the grade is my responsibility?
I teach an online school. When I record lessons, part of the requirements is that students watch the full lesson. It's plastered every students can look "ypu must watch the full lesson to receive credit"
This marking period I got a forward email from my principal, Kid didn't watch the ful lesson, got a 0 and mom email the fucking PRINCIPAL asking why her kid got a 0
A high school buddy of mine became a professor and taught at a state school. He said his 100-level classes were such a demotivator. Lots of people half-assing it, and so many came in unprepared and showed zero intellectual curiosity. Eventually he couldn’t take it anymore and left for another university, a private one with a better academic reputation. He said the quality of students is so different and so much better. Like night and day. It made him feel his work was so much more worthwhile.
The comments about the phones were so sad. High level academia, and he is scolding his class like they were fucking sophomores.
This video isn’t a prognosis for an entire generation, but the clear helplessness and carelessness that is coming out of our young generations is scary. It’s what billionaires want, so we can all be mindless low-wage working ants in an increasingly automated and lopsided society.
Ive noticed it in the new hires at my job and im relatively young myself. They sit there with a bored look on their face snacking during meetings. These are well compensated young people in an exciting city who should be motivated to build a career but they just aren’t. They decline invites to happy hour and team building, they don’t know how to hold a conversation at all. AirPods in all day. It’s definitely going to be a problem.
Both have their place in my experience, but might be industry-specific. I've landing at least half of my career advancement roles through friends made in the office that eventually go onto other places. Many times having a network lands you a role even more so than skill or the job you've done.
That said, you still need to ensure you are doing a good job and develop a reputation for getting shit done.
I don't see anything wrong with working to live and not living to work. A job should be just that, a job. A way to support yourself so you can live life outside of it. If anything it's a good thing that they're making progress away from the boomer/gen x mentality of dedicating your life to making money for some corporation that doesn't care about you at all and socializing with other people who are all pretending to be something more sterile and boring than they are. They've realized the corporate working world is fake and inhuman and aren't going to play along anymore, that's a good thing.
That being said the anti-intellectualism and lack of interest in learning or bettering themselves outside of work is definitely of concern.
Having a few free beers and getting to know your coworkers once in a while doesn't mean you are living just to work. Not a coincidence these are the same folks expressing high levels of loneliness.
Fuck yeah. School is easier now than ever with all the resources we have and MFers still wanna be lazy as shit. It's only gonna harm themselves once they graduate and get out of school and into the real world and their careers. Might as well work hard while you're in school and while life is generally easier.
its not even that, it feels like most classes just have grade inflation where the expectation is that if you know the material you should get an A and if you dont know most of it, a B. It is almost impossible to fail a class in academia on the account of exams only being less than or close to 50% of your grade with the rest either homework and take home quizzes. I believe most of my exams have been in the range of 70%-90% but my gpa is still a 3.8 when honestly im def closer to a true B+ average student. For context I am a biochemistry and statistics dual degree
It was so frustrating to me, hearing people just immediately give up, and say it was too hard without trying or doing all the ground work to understand. I remember we read Wuthering Heights, and kids who didn’t read the book, just spark notes, said it was awful. HOW WOULD YOU KNOW?
As a 50 year old student who went back to school to finish his bachelors, PREACH PROFESSOR PREACH!!!! I am SICK of being in discussion zoom rooms, and listening to people literally read chat gpt IN CONVERSATIONS. . . . .
It's fucking insulting and I hope they reap their consequences. I hope they end up working in fucking mcdonalds and learn their lesson, go back to school and take that shit seriously.
I can feel that, even not beeing a teacher myself. I got 3 junior devs under me, explaining alot of stuff on a daily basis just to realize it's not coming through and they don't really seem to care. It's really frustrating. They won't even use llms to help them learning concepts. If prompt 2 doesn't deliver the result they turn around, because it's 'too hard'
After an exam my professor spoke to the class and said “the highest grade was 57%. That sounds about right” and then proceeded with the next lesson 🤷🏾♂️
Been on the end of one of those lectures, the entire lecture is spent slowly sinking into your seat trying not to make eye contact and walking out at the end wondering if you're in the right class. But they're always right.
Not gonna lie but this is the kind of professor I would want. Someone that’s going to challenge me and actually care. Not someone concerned with their class gpa, pass/fail rate, or reviews.
for some reason I expected more than a solid rant. I think it's seeing all these insane videos of people filming each other until they fight like a black mirror episode. This whole "freak out" seems kinda reasonable lol
A friend’s brother was the type of student who could sit in class and absorb everything the professor presented and retain it without taking any notes. His coursework and projects were always top level. He was acing all of his subjects at a very competitive ivy league school. Then one night out with his classmates he gets into a car accident that put him on life support and destroyed his mind to where he has trouble remembering names of his family and friends. It was awful to see such talent disappear.
Id say it’s pretty hard to find a job as an actual political scientist, but there’s a decent amount of jobs that have a lot of the stuff you learned involved either way. Like right now I work for a city in GIS, which has a lot of data analysis baked into it.
absolutely reasonable, so much of college just feels like you get an A if you understand most of the material and a B if you dont. I really wish for more stricter classes as most of my classes have been easy up until only recently where im taking senior level or graduate courses
Heresy! Still, huge props to this prof for having the balls to hold his students to the standard they’ll need when/if they shortly graduate into a brutally tough industry to get into as a freshly-minted CS grad. — a former hiring software manager/director/CTO.
Shit I wish I could say this to my colleagues at work that do such little fucking research or investigation into their proposed solutions it’s embarrassing. Directors just paying through work they want to do based on a few numbers.
This same kind of behavior by the students is rampant in the professional workplace. It’s even worse with the AI now. People just plugging garbage into the ai and spitting out project documents that don’t make sense are just loaded with trash.
VPs and Directors don’t have the balls these days to do the actual work of auditing the outcomes and artifacts their reports generate. It’s fucking infuriating to work in tech these days.
How is this a freak out? This guy cares enough to give you a life lesson. I graduated college in 2006 before everyone had a IPhone in their pocket so maybe I am out of touch but I still remember the professors who pushed me. 18 years in the corporate world and I owe them all a thank you
I was always an overachiever when it came to writing stuff and I would know when writing papers when I wasn't sounding coherent or that my work wasn't good enough to submit. I would agonize over writing a good essay.
You get students who are going to college because they're parents told them thats what they have to do. YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO LEARN. LEARN. Its so frustrating to me having class mates who are in my class just on their computer the whole damn time.
I have read some truly poor college level essays written by people who clearly never graduated High school and only got the bare minimum score on a GED that they had to take more than once.
I’m a high school teacher and sometimes I want to talk to my students like this. I am scared about the future and who our future doctors (etc) will be.
Sometimes I only have 30 seconds worth of care for a subject. I would watch a 30 second video of a dog on a skateboard, but not a 15 minute documentary.
I never had a class fuck up so bad the professor had to do this.
the only class I remember was introduction to mathematical analyisis with was like first semester of first year engineering.
like the first actually serious math class you ever take. wich was dividded into 2 exams per semester.
We absolutely got destroyed on the first exam like 5 out of 200 passed and the professor basically told us that we are no longer in highschool and that the exam wasnt even that hard ( wich was true ) and that we had to learn how to study now or suffer because studying all the material the night before wont work like it did because In half a semester we cover the same density of content as a year of highschool ( wich was also true ).
after that most people got the reality check and Ive never seen any class perform in such a abysmal way the professor actually got angry.
Ive seen entire classes fail an exam but that is generally due to bad comunication between the professor and the class or due to the exam just straight up being too difficult. ive even seen extra exam turns be give due to fuck ups like that but never the entire class delivering such mediocrity that it warranted a dressing down.
like at some point during the first few years you have to learn how the finished work should look like and you kinda know what grade you are going to get after turning it in with great accuracy and if you know its enough or mediocre you dont just throw it at the professor and hope for the best thats disrespectfull both to you and to the professor.
you go and cry for an extension on the due date and take the grade cut that will probably entail.
wtf how is it a question for them to memorize four things on a single essential slide, that's like an organized presentation 101 that is easy to digest. No kidding he's pissed, some people just don't give a damn sometimes...
This could be a situation where the whole class effed up, or it's possible that the instructor really isn't as good as he thinks he is. I had a professor in college like that. His instructions were difficult to follow, and the work of his students reflected this more than their inability to learn or lack of effort. We never knew what he was asking for. He finally ended up realizing that teaching wasn't for him and quit academia altogether, which was crazy for a full tenured professor.
I can’t speak for college but this is high school for sure. My kid is constantly held back from advancing in the class syllabus because dipshits don’t care and they know they will just get pushed to the next grade. And don’t get me started on kids submitting papers written by AI. Teachers are tied man.
The freak out should be how ignorant the average American human is. Poor professor that has to deal with the consequences of societal ignorance to the dumbing down of our educational system.
No. Not caring enough to call out your students on mediocre work is what breeds failures. I wish I had more professors like this early into my education.
it wasn't at this level or long as a rant but there will be professors like this at any college.
and honestly theyre probably the best ones cause it shows they care. I had one maybe every other semester or so that would show genuine anger about the class not understanding a concept or an entire class doing poorly on an exam. most ranted for a few minutes and then the rest of the day was spent going over the missed concept and engaging the students to see what they might've missed. IDK if this guy did the same after or not but i hope he did lol
Wait up they didn’t run to tpusa and say that the professor was being discriminatory to get him/her put on leave and have the paper not influence the semester grade, guess FIU has more integrity that the university of Oklahoma
With no sound this looks like "A Day in the Life of a Fire Extinguisher"
I didnt read what subreddit this was from so i was expecting the fire extinguisher to explode or something
It's only missing an animated face going through the emotions.
Even the fire extinguisher looks uncomfortable being there.
This is why I read the comments
Dude walking in after the rant was classic
Gave him a little lip too 🤣
everybody in the class can get it lol
This seems normal for a college professor whose entire class bombed a paper.
It sounds like a project. From what I picked up it sounds like they were supposed to act as consultants coming into an airline and presenting a database structure prototype for their business complete with ER diagrams and what sounded like a sample RDBMS table structure in Third Normal Form (3NF). It sounds like students turned in ER diagrams that were missing important things like relationships and cardinality and that their table structures weren't normalized at all, with the added bonus that they did no research into what kind of entities may exist and need to be captured for an airline and everything was done by hand with terrible hand writing instead of using a tool to help with organization and presentation.
Basically, this is the comp sci equivalent of a professor asking you for a 25 page paper on a subject using at least 10 sources typed and formatted in Times New Roman, 12pt, Single Spaced. You then turn around and hand in 5 pages, hand written, and using Reddit and ChatGPT as sources.
What’s even crazier is that he talks about this being a 4000 level graduate course, but in my 2 year college program I teach here in Canada, we cover ER diagramming and design including normalization up to 4th normal form in the FIRST semester of year 1.
All of those students should be capable of doing this if they are really year 4 uni students.
That's kind of wild. My 4 year degrees this was a 300 level class focused specifically on databases for an entire semester. First year first semester is basically just intro to comp sci where everything is touched on at a high level. So we may talk about databases and what normalization is but nobody is doing 3NF or Boyce-Codd Normal Form. I don't think we ever normalized to 4NF, gun to my head I couldn't even tell you what that is but I also haven't dealt with database architecture since college, I have worked with DBA's but haven't been in a role doing have DB work directly.
Yeah we’re a jack of all trades program: teach them about 6-8 languages over 2 years and give them enough piecemeal knowledge in all the important areas they can teach themselves anything we don’t have time for.
Funny enough 4th normal form is really easy compared to BCNF, it’s about handling multi-valued dependencies.
Basically you can be in 3NF and still have repeated information in tables where an item has a bunch of variants (good example is car dealers only offer specific colours for each model, and the colour selection is not the same for each model. If you don’t move colour into its own table where you can pair up modelID with each colour that’s available, you’ll have to generate a new modelID for every new colour in the MODEL table, and then every other column will get repeated.)
It’s a lot more in your face compared to BCNF, which I really could spend an entire semester teaching the pattern recognition required to do that properly.
That makes sense. I'd say the general structure of my major over 4 years was learning about computers and how they work, history of computers and programming (no that's not where my name comes from, sorry Ada), basic C++ programming like scope and functions and some syntax and semantics, data structures in programming, algorithms which was really focused on search and sort methods (I just remember lots of big O analysis and notation), then databases which covered pretty much everything in the video and our discussion, then assembly which you couldn't pay me enough to remember, and somewhere in there we learned about compiled vs interpreted languages and the senior project was basically our professor gave us rules for a made up programming language and we had to build a parser which we elaborated on and refined until the final project which was basically her giving us 3 pages of different inputs that we had to successfully parse and either raise an error for or provide the output.
I remember not really liking my database class because I took it after already having done a summer internship where I had to basically learn about databases on the fly because I was on the internal web apps team who frequently dealt with DBAs for projects using both SQL server and Oracle databases (depending on how legacy that legacy app was lol). So when I was back in school the class was incredibly slow and boring as people struggled understanding the different JOINS and writing WHERE clauses that id almost completely checked out when we got to architecting our own databases. I still did well and retained some information but it felt like going on a really long summer break for that class and then showing up for the last month and a half lol.
It’s Florida. I’m surprised they can even find the class.
I keep hearing Florida is supposed to be the best state for higher education, maybe this class is the exception, who knows?
I have experience with this having TA’d the database classes on both undergrad and graduate levels.
In undergrad, the courses focus on understanding database structure, basic SQL, and the basics of normalization. On the graduate level, we go further into normalization and all the various normal forms, as well as transact-SQL.
Some of the higher level undergrad students opt to take the graduate course, but the undergrad course is designed for students who have never seen a database before.
I think he actually said a 4000 level course and that the students were "not that far away from doing graduate level work." I assumed that meant they were 4th year undergrads.
Its Florida...
Single spaced teachers can fuck off.
Its been a while since college, my favorite history professor (i have a history degree) did this once.
And i loved him so i did it. With a smile on his face he said as we turned in our papers, “i made a mistake, shouldve said double spaced.”
What a fuck head.
Yeah but he made up for it in teaching style and i spent a lot of time at his office hours.
So he got a pass.
That's fair. But it still made me cackle. Like WTF man. I had some profs do shit like that in college and the ones I liked got a pass too.
It’s a SQL class, and the class didn’t even do the rudimentary work to set up the problem. I just laughed at this being an SQL teacher myself.
Can’t believe a 4000 level course has this much suck, my freshman level CC course has better students lol.
i remember failing my SQL class years ago in college. not because i didnt know SQL but because the professor of the SQL class decided to include biology questions in the test. and i use SQL regularly at my job now. lol
This past fall in the class I'm taking every single one of us except for one person failed the mid term. When we came back from fall break we got an ass chewing as well. It didn't help that our instructor used to be a USMC D.I. We saw that past come out of him a few times.
Relational theory.... gives me nightmares after 40 years working with databases ...
3NF… 3NF.. No transitives!!
A third of the class read the book I'm fucking crying
This reminds me of my favorite history class in college. I'm sitting outside the classroom before our final and these two girls in the class are sitting there talking.
Girl one goes, "This class is so hard, he's such a bad professor. He expects us to know things he's never even talked about."
Girl two goes, "Did you read the books?"
Girl ones goes, "No."
Girl two goes, "Yah, me neither."
I'm just sitting there smiling to myself cause it's such a stupid conversation and they said everything completely genuinely without any introspection.
He was also a great professor, he taught us a super simple trick to studying that helped me in all my classes.
What was that
Oh right, ok so during class you still need to take good notes. You try to write down as much as you can, but make sure not to skip particularly important stuff (the order in which events happened, names, countries involved etc.).
Then at home, you read through your notes and write down the most important things to highlight on note cards. Then repeat and read through your note cards and write the most important points from that down onto even fewer note cards. Essentially you want to end with a single note card with the most vital info. And the process of re-reading and re-writing helped me remember everything and focus on what would actually be on the test.
He also told us that he doesn't care if you know every date, what's really important in history is the order that things happened and the causes and effects of them happening. Obviously you need to know some dates like 1776, but in general he didn't make us memorize dates and cared more if we knew generally when something happened and why.
I was never good at taking notes realtime. I had to pay attention to what was being taught to really absorb it. I did have a good memory so I was able to transcribe notes later. I always envied people who were good real time note takers.
Same, I can't write as fast as they can talk, and I can't concentrate on both at the same time. Provide powerpoints for students. The same notes have already been taken 100s of times. Compile that into a document, and let's pick through it, have a conversation around it, instead of the teacher regurgitating information as you struggle to write it down and try work out what is important or not.
read the books
I tried buying zero books for a semester of undergrad. 4.0.
I didn't miss class, and paid attention, because it was my only chance.
I would not recommend.
I had professors that wrote the books. They would exclude sections from lectures to force you to read them. They would also change up editions so you couldn't buy used.
Fucking scam and a half.
Had a professor who approached me on a feedback session and said my final essay was great but it was missing a source : his book.
I asked him to send me a copy of the manuscript, he said it was going to be published the week before the due date and his publisher didn't allow him to share copies.
The book was like $50 and I would at most use a single chapter.
I threw the book on my bibliography, never bought it, he didn't even notice.
I don't think I ever had a book under $100 my entire time. Hell, half of them were fucking photocopied and bound on campus by the University.
Nothing radicalizes you like higher education.
History is really quite nice for this.
A professor's magnum opus, the culmination of a lifetime of becoming the globally recognized expert on this one thing, a work that radically changes how a subject is approached in the academy...
is still probably 30-40 bucks at most, going way down from there if it's old enough that used paperbacks are on the market.
Most of those books are also actually, you know, decent books. They're written to be read, not just as a teaching tool.
Meanwhile in chemistry I had a professor who "wrote" a lab practices "supplement". It was a comb bound pamphlet, effectively, that was not directly used to actually teach any concepts. It was pretty much just a very souped up list of lab rules and best practices with some advice and diagrams thrown in. For eighty five fucking united states dollars. If he suspected you of not having bought it (the TA heavily hinted that it would be in our best interest to leave it visible on the desk) he'd find excuses to penalize you a few points here and there for bad lab practices regardless of the quality of your actual lab report.
Literally should be criminal.
Use this ONE WEIRD TRICK to learn ANYTHING! Professors HATE him!
Read?
It’s been ten minutes already and we’re all getting tired of waiting for this secret trick!
Lol I was at work and kept trying to type out my answer and people kept coming up to me here to talk! I was thinking can y'all go away, I've got a reddit comment to finish damn.
Juat added it now though, hopefully it's not too anticlimactic
Appreciate you appreciating the hard time we gave you haha
I had multiple professors that made you purchase books for their class that they never once touched on any topic within. Why? Because they were the author and they made money that way.
Please share with the class!
I have now shared with the class, hopefully it will live up to all the hype (it won't)
My favorite trick was from our history capstone class professor. The thesis project needed us to delve through a lot of more obscure sources trying to find relevant material. He suggested getting a pile of anything that seemed even remotely related to our topic, reading just the first and last few lines of each chapter/section, noting down the source title/where we got it/quick summary/list of their citations, and only doing deeper dives on the ones that seemed extremely relevant. Maybe it sounds obvious and simple now but at the time my goofy ass was just trying to plow through the entirety of every source and writing thorough notes. His method was a life saver when I compiled everything at the end.
In one of my classes half the class (including a couple of people in their 40s) were freaking out over having to read Frankenstein (which is less than 300 pages)
Need more of this energy in post-secondary education.
College degrees are no longer indications of competence any more than high school diplomas used to be.
He cares. Period
People mistake all rants as bad, when sometimes they are well meant like this. They all defeated the purpose of the class, and this teacher is 100% right for this.
They need to hear this. As he said, it's not worth his time that they aren't actually learning, because they don't care.
I loved his rant.
“This is a 4700 level course which means you are close to graduate level work. Apparently graduation isn’t in the cards for many of you.”
That was a 4700 level rant. I give him an A
Just FUCKING lol.
I got no problem if people started getting Fs at that point.
And I say as someone that’s been there. I took courses thinking I was going to be X when I graduated. I failed tests. And I sure as shit dropped that course and said nope. Not gonna be that.
It makes no fucking sense to just stay in shit when you are just not going to be able to cut it.
Thanks to some of the reforms instituted by the No Child Left Behind educational model, a lot of the students in that video are probably used to turning in crap work and being passed grade after grade. I also learned early in college to drop classes whereas I was destined to fail but if you've never had the experience of being flunked or held back, then what is the motivation not to push through an entire semester when you keep failing all the assignments and exams?
I kind of saw some of this in the late aughts when I went to college. A lot of Boomers kept treating those of us going for our bachelors degrees like it was such a feat to finish a four year degree. It just felt like High School+ in a lot of ways. Professors were way too easy on students and some peers were learning how to take advantage of that.
The degree inflation back then already seemed to be taking hold since it didn't really guarantee jobs right out of graduation. I think that reality hit a few of my peers since they continued into unnecessary masters degrees which still didn't lead to concrete opportunities. I was just ready to get into the workforce and put college behind me
I came in on the cusp of the change ~09-13ish. Professors back them seemed incredulous, and frankly insulted when they were getting calls from student's parents about grades.
Years pass, and now it's apparently even worse.
Same. I took a few online courses in which there were a lot of "group discussion" and realized that the quality of work of my peers was so low that they may as well have been gaming the system. Then I asked myself what the hell I was working so hard for. My work was getting me to the same place as them but with totally unnecessary effort. I couldn't believe how low the bar was. Credential creep hit hard.
Tons of this energy exists
Peer review was always eye opening for me. I couldn’t believe some of the writing my classmates were turning in. On one hand, it made me wonder why I was stressing so hard about my work if that shit was considered passable. But on the other hand… it was a little embarrassing.
Right? Peer views and discussion boards were always revelatory for that exact reason. Made me realize I was totally qualified to self-identify as a writer, lol.
As someone who went to college 15 years and 2 years ago it is pathetic now. May as well just go on YouTube and learn yourself. The insane amount of foreign students who could barely speak English (which doesn't personally offend me, don't come at me) lowers the standards of the class because the Prof would have to fail almost all of them because they don't know English and therefore can't learn. It's not fair to them and it wasn't fair to me and the other students.
Some of the stupidest people I know have high level degrees and make the most money.
Right - also, the level of accommodations is insane. So many people gaming the system. Our company is only hiring PhDs as interns for data science now, and believe me, we have plenty of applicants. Even Masters isn't enough now.
wow, this is both disturbing and cringe - love the state of the career market/workforce
It's like all the collective frustrations of college professors across the country is coming out of the mouth of one man.
And he's right.
As a teacher....ya I get it. You put alot of time and effort into lessons just for many students to half ass it or just not do it. Many of my students I try to offer help and still don't get a word back from them. Frustration can pile up quickly
I'm a teacher too. I've developed some fail-safes to ensure kids aren't just relying on AI to answer or write up their whole assignments, but the ones that just straight up don't do anything definitely drive me nuts because, 7/10 times, they have parents that will insist that I'm simply grading their kids unfairly and have a prejudice against their child.
In a way, Google classroom has been an absolute godsend because the number of times I've had parents claim "well, my son/daughter didn't know about this!" I can point out that, actually, it's on the classroom, I reminded them, they opened it up and edited it with their name as I require for every assignment, so yeah they did actually know about and before you claim they didn't know when it was due, it's right there above the "submit" button. It silenced a lot of irate parents for me.
Edit: I know this is a college Prof giving this rant, and frankly to anyone saying he was out of line: this is college. No one is forced to be here, and if they fail that's 100% on them. In mandatory school (high school, junior high, and elementary), we as teachers are not only expected to accommodate all kids no matter what, we face consequences if we have too many DGAF kids failing, and by DGAF I mean they don't hand in a single assignment and tell you to "fuck off" when you remind them about the work. Tell a prof to fuck off, they'll toss that right back at you and boot you from the class.
When I was in uni I would have been MORTIFIED if my parents tried to talk to one of my college professors about a grade. If I went moaning to my parents about a grade they'd shrug and say "Do better next time." There was no argument or parental advocacy to be had. They aren't going to pick up the phone to email or call someone with vastly more experience and education than me (and probably them) to tell them how they're wrong. The professor didn't give me a bad grade based on my effort, it was based on my results. And I was literally an adult, why would I need/want my parents to stan for me when the grade is my responsibility?
I teach an online school. When I record lessons, part of the requirements is that students watch the full lesson. It's plastered every students can look "ypu must watch the full lesson to receive credit"
This marking period I got a forward email from my principal, Kid didn't watch the ful lesson, got a 0 and mom email the fucking PRINCIPAL asking why her kid got a 0
A high school buddy of mine became a professor and taught at a state school. He said his 100-level classes were such a demotivator. Lots of people half-assing it, and so many came in unprepared and showed zero intellectual curiosity. Eventually he couldn’t take it anymore and left for another university, a private one with a better academic reputation. He said the quality of students is so different and so much better. Like night and day. It made him feel his work was so much more worthwhile.
“What I worried about was not flying into the back of a carrier. I worry about not killing myself on a motorcycle…”
Honestly, really great way to drive home the point. Nothing but respect for this guy.
"Next time I see someone playing on their phone, the next class will be a full fledged fucking test."
That's not even a third of the way into the video lol
And him saying a number of these students just straight up aren’t ready to graduate halfway through
Honestly more of this
Yeah, I clicked on this video and saw it was 15 minutes. Ended up watching the whole thing because the professor made a ton of excellent points
The casual “showing up anywhere near on time is a useful skill too” was so sly, that would’ve GUTTED me if I was that student
It would be a core memory for me and recurring nightmare. I’d probably die in a car crash trying to get to a meeting on time.
“they’re holding one of your nieces or nephews hostage? if you don’t pass the class, the little one gets it” is ridiculously hilarious
The comments about the phones were so sad. High level academia, and he is scolding his class like they were fucking sophomores.
This video isn’t a prognosis for an entire generation, but the clear helplessness and carelessness that is coming out of our young generations is scary. It’s what billionaires want, so we can all be mindless low-wage working ants in an increasingly automated and lopsided society.
Ive noticed it in the new hires at my job and im relatively young myself. They sit there with a bored look on their face snacking during meetings. These are well compensated young people in an exciting city who should be motivated to build a career but they just aren’t. They decline invites to happy hour and team building, they don’t know how to hold a conversation at all. AirPods in all day. It’s definitely going to be a problem.
What matters most is that they do a good job and build their careers. Happy hour and team bondings don’t matter.
Both have their place in my experience, but might be industry-specific. I've landing at least half of my career advancement roles through friends made in the office that eventually go onto other places. Many times having a network lands you a role even more so than skill or the job you've done.
That said, you still need to ensure you are doing a good job and develop a reputation for getting shit done.
I don't see anything wrong with working to live and not living to work. A job should be just that, a job. A way to support yourself so you can live life outside of it. If anything it's a good thing that they're making progress away from the boomer/gen x mentality of dedicating your life to making money for some corporation that doesn't care about you at all and socializing with other people who are all pretending to be something more sterile and boring than they are. They've realized the corporate working world is fake and inhuman and aren't going to play along anymore, that's a good thing.
That being said the anti-intellectualism and lack of interest in learning or bettering themselves outside of work is definitely of concern.
Having a few free beers and getting to know your coworkers once in a while doesn't mean you are living just to work. Not a coincidence these are the same folks expressing high levels of loneliness.
Fuck yeah. School is easier now than ever with all the resources we have and MFers still wanna be lazy as shit. It's only gonna harm themselves once they graduate and get out of school and into the real world and their careers. Might as well work hard while you're in school and while life is generally easier.
I’m in school right now at 28, boy do I wish I did this at 18 when I could’ve gotten away with working part time.
its not even that, it feels like most classes just have grade inflation where the expectation is that if you know the material you should get an A and if you dont know most of it, a B. It is almost impossible to fail a class in academia on the account of exams only being less than or close to 50% of your grade with the rest either homework and take home quizzes. I believe most of my exams have been in the range of 70%-90% but my gpa is still a 3.8 when honestly im def closer to a true B+ average student. For context I am a biochemistry and statistics dual degree
It was so frustrating to me, hearing people just immediately give up, and say it was too hard without trying or doing all the ground work to understand. I remember we read Wuthering Heights, and kids who didn’t read the book, just spark notes, said it was awful. HOW WOULD YOU KNOW?
Kids be sharing this like the professor is wrong. Society is cooked.
Oh I’m on the professors side!
You can tell this guy is a really good teacher tbh
Tough love. I respect it 🫡
Preach Professor! “I tried really hard and I fucked it up”…Chef’s kiss!
As a 50 year old student who went back to school to finish his bachelors, PREACH PROFESSOR PREACH!!!! I am SICK of being in discussion zoom rooms, and listening to people literally read chat gpt IN CONVERSATIONS. . . . .
It's fucking insulting and I hope they reap their consequences. I hope they end up working in fucking mcdonalds and learn their lesson, go back to school and take that shit seriously.
As a former nontraditional student myself, way to go!
This is not a freak out. It's a lecture and attempt to get failures to wake up.
These kids are going to blame so many things for their failure, but never address their effort.
College professors aren’t your parents or your elementary school teachers. Well deserved to all the lazy coasters.
Seems like a pretty reasonable dressing-down of a class that collectively shit the bed.
I can feel that, even not beeing a teacher myself. I got 3 junior devs under me, explaining alot of stuff on a daily basis just to realize it's not coming through and they don't really seem to care. It's really frustrating. They won't even use llms to help them learning concepts. If prompt 2 doesn't deliver the result they turn around, because it's 'too hard'
I don’t get that… figuring shit out and solving the puzzle is the fun part about being a dev.
Yes! The joy of solving a problem is just so sweet. Plus one learns so much by figuring it out on one's own.
Brutal but deserved.
What's his name? I'd love to follow his material. Sounds like he knows his craft.
A+ teacher I hope my kids have.
basically doing his job?
My professor said he kinda gets excited when he sees poorly done work nowadays because he knows it isn’t chat gpt lol
Naw, this is a valid freak out. “If you cant spell the word ‘passenger’ correctly, then why should I care” Is the most terrifying part…
After an exam my professor spoke to the class and said “the highest grade was 57%. That sounds about right” and then proceeded with the next lesson 🤷🏾♂️
Been on the end of one of those lectures, the entire lecture is spent slowly sinking into your seat trying not to make eye contact and walking out at the end wondering if you're in the right class. But they're always right.
he’s right
Not gonna lie but this is the kind of professor I would want. Someone that’s going to challenge me and actually care. Not someone concerned with their class gpa, pass/fail rate, or reviews.
I agree with his sentiment - even at good universities you’d be surprised with the garbage students turn in. Like barely able to write an essay bad
for some reason I expected more than a solid rant. I think it's seeing all these insane videos of people filming each other until they fight like a black mirror episode. This whole "freak out" seems kinda reasonable lol
A friend’s brother was the type of student who could sit in class and absorb everything the professor presented and retain it without taking any notes. His coursework and projects were always top level. He was acing all of his subjects at a very competitive ivy league school. Then one night out with his classmates he gets into a car accident that put him on life support and destroyed his mind to where he has trouble remembering names of his family and friends. It was awful to see such talent disappear.
This is why I picked my degree that had no math or science, strictly reading and writing
What degree is that?
Political Science, granted it did have a lot of statistics so I guess there was some math after all lol
Are you easily able to find jobs in this field?
Id say it’s pretty hard to find a job as an actual political scientist, but there’s a decent amount of jobs that have a lot of the stuff you learned involved either way. Like right now I work for a city in GIS, which has a lot of data analysis baked into it.
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Liberal arts has no relation to being liberal or conservative on the political spectrum. It’s used based on the Latin root “liber”, meaning free.
You have no idea what they do ya chode
There’s a difference between “liberal arts” as a type of college and being politically “liberal.”
lol. Same here. I’m just not good at it. Chose international relations with limited science and math needed.
absolutely reasonable, so much of college just feels like you get an A if you understand most of the material and a B if you dont. I really wish for more stricter classes as most of my classes have been easy up until only recently where im taking senior level or graduate courses
“…get off Reddit!”
Heresy! Still, huge props to this prof for having the balls to hold his students to the standard they’ll need when/if they shortly graduate into a brutally tough industry to get into as a freshly-minted CS grad. — a former hiring software manager/director/CTO.
Not a freakout. Not even close. To be honest, he sounds like a good teacher. The class is messing around and not paying attention. That’s not on him.
*justified freak out
Shit I wish I could say this to my colleagues at work that do such little fucking research or investigation into their proposed solutions it’s embarrassing. Directors just paying through work they want to do based on a few numbers.
This same kind of behavior by the students is rampant in the professional workplace. It’s even worse with the AI now. People just plugging garbage into the ai and spitting out project documents that don’t make sense are just loaded with trash.
VPs and Directors don’t have the balls these days to do the actual work of auditing the outcomes and artifacts their reports generate. It’s fucking infuriating to work in tech these days.
Stick it up your ass and smoke it man? 🤣
You know this was posted to make him look bad. He's right. We agree.
This is how you will be dealt with for incompetence in most real world settings. Take pride in your work and people will take pride in you.
I am on his side, these students need a reality check
Reddit shoutout.
S/O to the professor. Too many people sliding by and then f*cking up my day as a software engineer by putting out half-assed work.
looks like half of gen z still has below a 6th grade reading level.
My new hero.
I scrolled through this video and stopped 3 different times to hear him reference a “thumb in your butt” within seconds each time.
All it professionals should be required to learn from this man. Level 1 on to SME’s.
How is this a freak out? This guy cares enough to give you a life lesson. I graduated college in 2006 before everyone had a IPhone in their pocket so maybe I am out of touch but I still remember the professors who pushed me. 18 years in the corporate world and I owe them all a thank you
For the record I think this was an absolutely justified and needed freak out
I was always an overachiever when it came to writing stuff and I would know when writing papers when I wasn't sounding coherent or that my work wasn't good enough to submit. I would agonize over writing a good essay.
You get students who are going to college because they're parents told them thats what they have to do. YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO LEARN. LEARN. Its so frustrating to me having class mates who are in my class just on their computer the whole damn time.
I have read some truly poor college level essays written by people who clearly never graduated High school and only got the bare minimum score on a GED that they had to take more than once.
I’m a high school teacher and sometimes I want to talk to my students like this. I am scared about the future and who our future doctors (etc) will be.
Stick it up your ass and smoke it. Love that hybrid of two sayings
I'll save you 15 minutes. Its a normal teacher with shit students.
textbook example on how the truth can hurt but it’s necessary to hear in order to grow as a person
Tbh I’d love to take this class
14 minutes? Lol no
I thought so too but it’s worth it
Holy shit. The guy showing up at 14:00 was absolute fucking cinema.
Showing up anywhere near on-time is a useful skill too
He was definitely waiting outside for the rant to be over 😂
It’s not too hard concentrating on a clip for 14 minutes my friend
I don’t need to sit on the toilet for fourteen minutes though
Short video brainrot is real. It is digesting our ability to watch anything beyond 30 seconds. We are fucked.
Not everyone wants to watch 14 minutes of a professor freaking out.
Sometimes I only have 30 seconds worth of care for a subject. I would watch a 30 second video of a dog on a skateboard, but not a 15 minute documentary.
It's not the ability to concentrate, it's the prioritization of time, my friend.
True, but a lot of us don't come here for long form freakouts.
I didn't say it is my friend. Interest and ability are not the same thing.
Why would I want to spend my time doing that
You're one of the people the instructor is talking about lol
This is a classic one.
Justified freakout. Some people need the wake up call. Tough love.
I love this guy
Those 4000 level classes be different
I never had a class fuck up so bad the professor had to do this.
the only class I remember was introduction to mathematical analyisis with was like first semester of first year engineering.
like the first actually serious math class you ever take. wich was dividded into 2 exams per semester.
We absolutely got destroyed on the first exam like 5 out of 200 passed and the professor basically told us that we are no longer in highschool and that the exam wasnt even that hard ( wich was true ) and that we had to learn how to study now or suffer because studying all the material the night before wont work like it did because In half a semester we cover the same density of content as a year of highschool ( wich was also true ).
after that most people got the reality check and Ive never seen any class perform in such a abysmal way the professor actually got angry.
Ive seen entire classes fail an exam but that is generally due to bad comunication between the professor and the class or due to the exam just straight up being too difficult. ive even seen extra exam turns be give due to fuck ups like that but never the entire class delivering such mediocrity that it warranted a dressing down.
like at some point during the first few years you have to learn how the finished work should look like and you kinda know what grade you are going to get after turning it in with great accuracy and if you know its enough or mediocre you dont just throw it at the professor and hope for the best thats disrespectfull both to you and to the professor.
you go and cry for an extension on the due date and take the grade cut that will probably entail.
I'm with teacher on proper normalization
Good ole' database design. Misspelling passenger is hilarious. I bet the assignment was fun.
wtf how is it a question for them to memorize four things on a single essential slide, that's like an organized presentation 101 that is easy to digest. No kidding he's pissed, some people just don't give a damn sometimes...
Sir, you are in a Florida university, which has significant overlap with some other country's highschools. What do you expect?
If all the students screwed up their papers then that’s on the teacher
This could be a situation where the whole class effed up, or it's possible that the instructor really isn't as good as he thinks he is. I had a professor in college like that. His instructions were difficult to follow, and the work of his students reflected this more than their inability to learn or lack of effort. We never knew what he was asking for. He finally ended up realizing that teaching wasn't for him and quit academia altogether, which was crazy for a full tenured professor.
I can’t speak for college but this is high school for sure. My kid is constantly held back from advancing in the class syllabus because dipshits don’t care and they know they will just get pushed to the next grade. And don’t get me started on kids submitting papers written by AI. Teachers are tied man.
It would have been hilarious if someone raised there hand and said “Sir, this is Florida “
The freak out should be how ignorant the average American human is. Poor professor that has to deal with the consequences of societal ignorance to the dumbing down of our educational system.
I just really want to know is thats any ol tiedye or if that's the 1992 Lithuanian Olympic Men's Basketball tiedye. Kinda looks like it.
I think it’s that shirt too!!! Scrolled very far to see if anyone else thought that lol
Good for him.
Seems like a lot of words when a single letter would suffice - F
No. Not caring enough to call out your students on mediocre work is what breeds failures. I wish I had more professors like this early into my education.
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Not all that rare, dreaded every Wednesday this past semester in a research based class where the two professors hated the majority of the work
it wasn't at this level or long as a rant but there will be professors like this at any college.
and honestly theyre probably the best ones cause it shows they care. I had one maybe every other semester or so that would show genuine anger about the class not understanding a concept or an entire class doing poorly on an exam. most ranted for a few minutes and then the rest of the day was spent going over the missed concept and engaging the students to see what they might've missed. IDK if this guy did the same after or not but i hope he did lol
Florida has universities?
FIU campus is so nice. I saw it a few years ago and wished I chose to go there.
Wait up they didn’t run to tpusa and say that the professor was being discriminatory to get him/her put on leave and have the paper not influence the semester grade, guess FIU has more integrity that the university of Oklahoma
Is this a business-level DB class? I've never seen CS students in college do this, but it's honestly par for the course for ISDS
Such a nice campus
I went through high level university courses, and then grad school.
Never had a professor speak to us like this - and we bombed a lot of projects.
I remember my mathematics professors would just hit us with “I still get paid no matter how bad you guys do, so let’s move on…” lol