All the maga faithful who parroted the whole "deep state" paranoia for years when confronted with reality must really be embarrassed for being so gullible... or not?
The worst part is that I’m conscious of it. Like, legitimately. I’m like “if 2016 Republicans and 2025 Democrats were put in a room together, they wouldn’t know how tf to disagree with one another.” Genuinely. I just want to shake them and be like “YOU WERE RIGHT! You were right about the surveillance state. You were right about the social media billionaires. You were right about Epstein. Why the fuck are you being contrarian all of a sudden?”
“Every accusation is a confession” for the right. Ironically the right accuses the left of this, which is a confession for them!
Deep state has always been a right wing play. Fucking kids is a conservative crime.
Etc.
Lol... let's be honest. The epstein operation , being that it was most likely an intelligence communities operation to gather leverage over influential people, will remain behind the curtain of national security. Much like the jfk files. It's just used as a distraction from other news. Like the investigation into the pervious administration wrong doings.
My favorite right now is the “liberal/progressive” who totally wants a progressive candidate but specifically not AOC because reasons. I dunno. Pick whatever and say it like fact.
They have already started cranking the propaganda to demonize her to the supporters because she has gained a lot of popularity.
I’m not against voting for her, but I would like a more experienced progressive (but not 60 years of experience). I definitely don’t want another milquetoast democrat that favors the centrists.
I’ve heard more cis women say “I just think it’s a man’s job” than I have “I want a woman, but not that one”. It’s a weird and unfortunately common take in west Michigan.
"I'm a progressive and everyone has to pass my litmus test or they are worse than Trump. Stay home on election day! Thank you for your attention to this matter." - reddit "progressives"
Left: Arrest all who are implicated regardless of party
Right: Arrest all who are implicated regardless of party
Today:
Left: Arrest all who are implicated regardless of party
Right : Ok but like if it’s a republican though maybe he didn’t know like maybe they’re framing him or maybe they’re an FBI agent working from the inside or maybe……
On the one hand, a lot of the "left" dont see most of the dems as "their" party so it isn't a fair analogy.
On the other hand, I'd trust reasonable people to want pedos locked up even if it is their actual tribe, and republicans don't care about even a shred of this nuance, and accuse the left not because they think the left is guilty, but because they know americans mostly will believe whatever is loudest.
Right now they are all like “look at this picture of Bill Clinton! Why aren’t Democrats pressing charges against him?” While also dismissing the photos of Trump. They “released” completely redacted files and are acting like it’s the smoking gun against democrats
If you raped children or helped cover up the rape of children and everything else involved here you should face justice. It's that simple. If they are dead they should be named so that we can remember them for who they truly were.
They are being sarcastic. Implying that dems must have planted all of those young girls in the cages to be raped by the poor unsuspecting billionaires.
Nah I was implying that J.E. and G.M were planted in the jail cells. For that orange pedo to come out and say all of this was a democratic hoax, then why the fuck were those 2 arrested donny dip shit? G.M is still in prison. For what? If it's a hoax, that would mean she's innocent right?
Sorry, I just can't think like a magat. Even if it's for a laugh.
It really does feel like taking crazy pills. The shear unreality of it all is designed to make us feel this way though. It’s a technique to exhaust, distract, and ultimately wear down through sheer volume.
The only silver lining now is that it out in the open. Yes I realize nothing has been truly done even with Maxwell still in jail, but the public knows about it. We've all seen photos of P(edo)OTUS with epstien and not just one. We've seen the birthday card, and we have heard quotes from even the dumbass in charge. Stating that they were best friends, or the fact he said J.E stole a victim from mara-toucho. Beauty pageants hosted by Trum who he himself said " i can just go back stage and grab em by the pussy."
If this were 50 years ago, they'd all have gotten away with it because everything would be hearsay/slander.
There's some evil shit in this world, and I hope every one of these sick fucks get what they deserve.
MAGA is a cult. They don’t understand that not everyone treats political allegiance and devotion to party leaders as an essential part of their identity.
Trump is their earthly Lord and saviour. MAGA is their congregation. Their attachment to MAGA and Trump is everything they are. It dictates their entire life, their opinions, their actions, how they look, how they speak, who they interact with, etc.
They cannot comprehend not having unwavering loyalty and blind obedience. Which is why they assume everyone else will do and say anything to protect their “side”. Because that’s what they do. Whether right or wrong, they must always shield and defend Trump.
If my father was in the Epstein files I’m taking the stand and providing dates and times for all childhood sleepovers. If he’s trippin let his ass fall too.
Protect her at all costs. After Trump gets dragged through the dirt, maga crazies who cant comprehend themselves being conned will go after whoever exposed trump. Stay safe please
Agreed, they think both sides protect their own corruption, when its just Republicans, Democrats are more than willing to call their own out and have their day in Court. Though we all know Republicans will protect one person more than any other, the Dumpy.
This shouldn’t be a progressive / conservative split. If you raped children I don’t care what party you are in or even what philanthropic efforts you’ve done. But a certain party is run by a cult of personality and it’s their own identity at risk.
So what happens if Epstein was working with Mossad and was generating kompromat to pressure Democrats (and Republicans) into supporting Israel? Because we've been watching a genocide for two years now that our politicians overwhelmingly support while voters (from both parties) are disgusted by it.
I actually agree with her for once about releasing whatever they’ve got. This redacting garbage is so ridiculous. What, there’s national security issues in these files? What I don’t agree with is that there’s this huge resistance from Republicans. I think pretty much everyone wants to see who’s in there. A LOT of this current smear campaign is set up to paint half the country as pedophile supporters which is utter nonsense. Now if you want to say that a lot of MAGA is super highly skeptical that DJT is implicated, well you’re right on that. So prove it. If I’m wrong fine, take him down.
That’s what you told me when I mentioned the Clintons suiciding 50+ people.
But if he’s not in there, can you just maybe shut the fuck up for a week or so?
The files should of been released when they where recorded, because we all knew this was going to happen. Like you said powerful people are going to keep this covered up.
No one who gets that far ahead of the common herd isn’t going to be an “abuser”. By definition they want more than they’re entitled to, and that tendency is an integral part of what makes them “great”.
stop apologizing for Clinton or anyone else. We all know who is in those files - TRUMP and other republKKKans. Nail them to the wall for the crimes they have committed.
all the maggits distracting bbbbbbut Clinton! yeah, prosecute him too if there's proof. But they conveniently ignore all the conservatives with pedo records.
As much as I want every person who committed crimes against the young girls Epstein had,, I think all these people in congress are making sure to protect the pedos! This is the same woman who supported medical procedures to children to make them trans...I have lost hope in all politicians in this past couple decades, we need someone like JFK or his brother Robbie to lead the Democrats and get rid of these corrupt self serving oligarchs and their corporate backers.
They love to say stuff like “Bill Clinton is in there!” like we won’t say okay, fine, let’s see the evidence and we’ll throw him in jail if he’s guilty too
The fucking smug looks they get on their face when they're like "well what if BIDEN is in it, what then?" Everyone on the left has echoed, LOCK THEM UP. The confidence that overcomes them that this is a left conspiracy aginst the right, is astounding. That they think implying that someone from the left is in there that it "owns the libs". Its like "lets go brandon!" all over again.
Weren’t MAGA ppl out for blood because of a pizzeria that was supposedly a den of evil? But now that their entire party is clearly evil and protects these sick degenerates they are all ok with it?
And to those on the right she's a horrible person for having these beliefs. I've not heard anyone saying that Clinton should not be punished if it comes out that he's responsible for the things that trump is. But you're seeing a whole lot of Republicans attempting to keep Trump clean because they do not care about the victims.
It's always news to the Right that us on the Left absolutely want anyone, no matter how popular or beneficial to the Left they are, to be prosecuted if they raped people.
Conservatives' reactions are very telling of how they do want to shield child rapists from the law if they feel it will help them get what they want.
Wow…what an extremely normal position. To bad she doesn’t have the insight to lead the left on our new immigration policy, speech policy and foreign policy capitalize on her populism from consolidation of wealth and power and green energy to save the left and lead the country away from fascism.
How long do we have to wait for someone to step up in an actually meaningful way.
Then why is every MAGA outlet focusing on democrats and whining about who else is in the files instead of just releasing them? Most of the people in your side of this are continuously bringing up "why didn't Biden release them" or "what if democrat x" is in the files instead of just releasing the fucking things?
But it's not just the outlets. There's also a lot of 'everyday MAGA' that I've spoken to that are listening to those outlets and following right along with the rhetoric.
There will always be ignorant people who will only believe what they want. As a Texas MAGA, I'm saying from my encounters, many are equally frustrated about the BS and want to see it all handed over regardless of who is in the documents.
This should have been done a long time agao. Now we're in a situation where no one even knows what's real and what isn't, especially with AI.
I also do believe it takes a little time to ensure innocent young girls names are protected. Everything else should be unredacted.
I hope the locals in Michigan really are an oddity then, because there's a lot of sheep up here. As far as the reactions go, they've had enough time to take care of it. There's literally thousands of people working at the DOJ capable of doing these minor accepted redactions.
The left had these files for years did nothing. The evidence of hunter Biden and his “issues” the left did nothing. So tell me again how it’s a problem with the right? Ya now you see it’s both.
It's called legal process. I know you've heard this by now, but there were active legal cases while Biden was in office. That means if they released the files then, it could have very easily turned Maxwell's trial into a mistrial, letting her go free. The bigger question is now that the trial is over, why is the Trump administration working so diligently to prevent the release of the files? Seems like the only thing they're actually working hard to achieve is NOT releasing the documents.
I've listened to her screech for quite a few hours. to date, I have never once heard a new thought from her. not a single time. She's basically putting a different shade of lipstick on the same pig of socialism.
i'm old enough to recognize socialism in many forms. you young'uns aren't... and it shows.
I'm not a young as you assume. And you're still ignorant if you think posting disagreement without even listening to the argument is a sane response. Who the hell cares what you think if you're openly admitting you're just here to argue. FYI, she said she doesn't care who, R or D, is in the files. The files need to be released and the guilty need to be prosecuted. Still disagree with her?
It's not virtue signaling, it's keeping up the pressure. It's publicly opposing the bullshit rhetoric and not letting this issue die without a fight. It has nothing to do with socialist ideals or anything else you've described. IMO this is leadership. So what if it's a message that's been said before. The MAGA side keeps repeating the same lines too, only that side refuses to address the elephant in the room or listen to reason. Even if you directly point out where they're misguided or outright wrong, MAGA just continues the same deflection tactics and refusing to get to the bottom of this issue. They'd rather just use terms like 'virtue signaling' and plug their ears than to hear the truth and face the facts.
I think most folks would prefer the Epstein stuff out in the open, dealt with, and done, so we can move on.
The irony is how many people are bitching about it now, but not a peep. Not.a.fucking.peep. for 4 years of Biden.
Do you guys **REALLY** think that if there was any sort of smoking gun against Trump (or anyone on the right) that it would NOT have been leaked by now??
Yeah, it's called a trial in progress. Would you rather Maxwell get her trial thrown out so she could go back to what she was doing instead of going to prison? It was illegal to release the files during an ongoing case. This can't be the first time you've heard this, so why are you still beating that drum?
Sorry, but this is laughably shallow and requires a level of faith in the integrity of people like Biden, Garland, and Wray, that's entirely unsupported by the facts of what other actions they did.
you are saying you HONESTLY believe that these feckless traitors (who were 100% involved in fabrication and support of a dozen seditious hoaxes against Trump) somehow held the line at withholding evidcence against a political opponnent?
Remember, they were directly involved in numerous hoax accusation collaborations ranging from the Russian collusion hoax (covering for Hillary while falsely accusing Trump) to numerous ongoing false narratives leading to multiple impeachment attempts, to even having his security downgraded (despite numerous known assassination plots against him by foreign actors), thus allowing several attempted assassinations of him.
These are the people you're claiming would only act in pure and honorable ways?
The whole "what about Biden" argument is flawed at the beginning. Who gives a flying fuck about the past, the point is all of the files need to be released, and anyone in them needs to be properly investigated and/or charged no matter who they are. Our government, no matter who is in charge, needs to stop protecting abusers and hiding the facts around this issue.
It doesn't matter if it was released before now or not. Basing Trump's innocence on what the Biden administration did or did not do is simply not sound logic. You're injecting your opinions on them into the scenario and using that as evidence that there's nothing noteworthy about Trump in the files. I'm saying forget about all of that, release ALL of the files, and we will see what the truth is.
If Trump is innocent, which I highly doubt based on his long history of deplorable actions, then so be it. It needs to be done still. We will never agree on most of the points you just made, but in the context of Epstien, it doesn't matter anyways. And that is the entire point of what AOC was saying here.
Because the files were still part of an ongoing FBI investigation. How was Biden going to make files that are part of a huge investigation available to the public? Come on now.
And, even if Biden could’ve released them and chose not to, then he should also be held accountable.
They tag teamed her in her mom or grandmas fur coat and that’s all she had on lol. They said it smelled like it had been in an attic for years but that didn’t stop them. Apparently she moaned from the time it started until they finished and said it was like being in a porno.
Because it all means nothing without context. Liberals didn’t want them released under Biden because they feared for the victims rights. People were making that excuse constantly. Now suddenly Trump is in power and yall want everything released u redacted, screw the victims right? Hypocrisy has never been more abundant in the right and the left as it has been this era.
”I’ll tell you the funniest is that I’ll go backstage before a show and everyone’s getting dressed. No men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in, because I’m the owner of the [Miss Teen USA] pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it. … ‘Is everyone OK?' You know, they’re [underage TEEN girls] standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody OK?’ And you see these incredible-looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.”
Democrats didn’t want it either- which is why nothing was said about it during the Biden presidency. It’s clear democrats had just as much incentive then to protect bill and Hillary as republicans do trump
And yet democrats have been saying if Bill is in the files, he can go to hell, while you people make up all sorts of excuses for why trump didn't release the files either time he was president. Democrats have no incentive to protect Bill, they just understood why trump had the files locked up to begin with. Same as understanding why conservatives are okay with that.
First off, I’m not republican and especially not MAGA. Democrats are only pushing this now because it’s damaging trump. Which honestly I’m fine with- just be honest about the reasons. Democrats didnt say shit when Biden was in office- and the had EVERY incentive not to drag Hillary and other dem supporters (Noam Chomsky anyone?) into this nightmare. Democrats made this as much about politics as republicans- the sad part is this should have blown up 15 years ago and people like you are only upset now because your dem leaders finally allowed you to. You’re a sheep
First off, I’m not republican and especially not MAGA.
No, you're just parroting their talking points while ignoring the actual explanation as to what happened to the files. This not even considering the fact that, for as loudly as trump whipped his sheeple up into wanting these files they knew nothing about released, they've been unsurprisingly quiet since he decreed them a hoax.
I said plenty. You're literally pushing the exact same narrative maga has been pushing these last few years while ignoring the response given, so why would anyone think giving you it again would be successful? You started off pushing a strawman that has been debunked for months. Its pretty clear you have no facts, merely curated and cherrypicked quotes to deflect culpability.
Like I said, you're acting stinks and you should be fired.
What argument? You're not arguing, you're monologuing, trying to give a lecture as if you have the weight of facts on your side. All while regurgitating the same half-truths and ignorance trump was pushing for his campaign. Faking like you don't have a narrative bias to protect your diddler-in-chief. And now you wanna declare yourself winner and get a participation trophy.
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All the maga faithful who parroted the whole "deep state" paranoia for years when confronted with reality must really be embarrassed for being so gullible... or not?
The worst part is that I’m conscious of it. Like, legitimately. I’m like “if 2016 Republicans and 2025 Democrats were put in a room together, they wouldn’t know how tf to disagree with one another.” Genuinely. I just want to shake them and be like “YOU WERE RIGHT! You were right about the surveillance state. You were right about the social media billionaires. You were right about Epstein. Why the fuck are you being contrarian all of a sudden?”
“Every accusation is a confession” for the right. Ironically the right accuses the left of this, which is a confession for them!
Deep state has always been a right wing play. Fucking kids is a conservative crime.
Etc.
Lol... let's be honest. The epstein operation , being that it was most likely an intelligence communities operation to gather leverage over influential people, will remain behind the curtain of national security. Much like the jfk files. It's just used as a distraction from other news. Like the investigation into the pervious administration wrong doings.
You get it sir!! Glad to see more people willing to accept the larger picture / problem.
Bring on the MAGA scum bots and trolls
My favorite right now is the “liberal/progressive” who totally wants a progressive candidate but specifically not AOC because reasons. I dunno. Pick whatever and say it like fact.
They have already started cranking the propaganda to demonize her to the supporters because she has gained a lot of popularity.
I’d gladly vote for her for next president. AOC is awesome
Amen, I’d vote for her as well. She speaks the truth without bull shitting us.
I’m not against voting for her, but I would like a more experienced progressive (but not 60 years of experience). I definitely don’t want another milquetoast democrat that favors the centrists.
I want Mark Kelly as President and AOC as VP
I mean, plenty of people are like "we want a woman president, just not THAT one" twice already.
I’ve heard more cis women say “I just think it’s a man’s job” than I have “I want a woman, but not that one”. It’s a weird and unfortunately common take in west Michigan.
"I'm a progressive and everyone has to pass my litmus test or they are worse than Trump. Stay home on election day! Thank you for your attention to this matter." - reddit "progressives"
they're not capable of embarrassment/shame. One of many chips their brain is missing
They're too stupid and/or shameless to feel embarrassment.
MAGA will just move the goalposts
Theyd have to have the ability to self reflect for that to happen
They are too dumb to be embarrassed.
1 year ago:
Left: Arrest all who are implicated regardless of party
Right: Arrest all who are implicated regardless of party
Today:
Left: Arrest all who are implicated regardless of party
Right : Ok but like if it’s a republican though maybe he didn’t know like maybe they’re framing him or maybe they’re an FBI agent working from the inside or maybe……
On the one hand, a lot of the "left" dont see most of the dems as "their" party so it isn't a fair analogy.
On the other hand, I'd trust reasonable people to want pedos locked up even if it is their actual tribe, and republicans don't care about even a shred of this nuance, and accuse the left not because they think the left is guilty, but because they know americans mostly will believe whatever is loudest.
Republicans protect pedophiles. It’s that simple.
They. Don't. Care.
Don't believe that republicans or "independents" argue in good faith.
The end justifies the means to them, they don't fucking care.
Right now they are all like “look at this picture of Bill Clinton! Why aren’t Democrats pressing charges against him?” While also dismissing the photos of Trump. They “released” completely redacted files and are acting like it’s the smoking gun against democrats
If you raped children or helped cover up the rape of children and everything else involved here you should face justice. It's that simple. If they are dead they should be named so that we can remember them for who they truly were.
The dems planted them in those jail cells. Case closed.
Planted what
They are being sarcastic. Implying that dems must have planted all of those young girls in the cages to be raped by the poor unsuspecting billionaires.
Nah I was implying that J.E. and G.M were planted in the jail cells. For that orange pedo to come out and say all of this was a democratic hoax, then why the fuck were those 2 arrested donny dip shit? G.M is still in prison. For what? If it's a hoax, that would mean she's innocent right?
Sorry, I just can't think like a magat. Even if it's for a laugh.
It really does feel like taking crazy pills. The shear unreality of it all is designed to make us feel this way though. It’s a technique to exhaust, distract, and ultimately wear down through sheer volume.
The only silver lining now is that it out in the open. Yes I realize nothing has been truly done even with Maxwell still in jail, but the public knows about it. We've all seen photos of P(edo)OTUS with epstien and not just one. We've seen the birthday card, and we have heard quotes from even the dumbass in charge. Stating that they were best friends, or the fact he said J.E stole a victim from mara-toucho. Beauty pageants hosted by Trum who he himself said " i can just go back stage and grab em by the pussy."
If this were 50 years ago, they'd all have gotten away with it because everything would be hearsay/slander.
There's some evil shit in this world, and I hope every one of these sick fucks get what they deserve.
Let’s never forget has base knowingly and willingly voted for a rapist. They don’t have the morality to care about pedophilia and human trafficking.
I am hoping the only supporters remaining to the Republicans are going to be the top 20% who are enjoying the present economy and the Trump tax cuts.
It is probably going to come down to the pocket book for the rest and not the Epstein issue.
I am not hopeful, and most of us aren't, that the truth will get out until or unless we get a dem win in the house.
Let's hope someone somewhere has the original copies of the Epstein files....
If they say they are on my side, and they show up on that list, they aren’t on my side.
They are selfish and dont care about others. Things that maga do care about: money, winning, looking tough, not being laughed at.
They just do not care about others, they are completely selfish.
Now they will tell us it’s actually ok to rape children cause it’s what Jesus would’ve somehow wanted.
MAGA is a cult. They don’t understand that not everyone treats political allegiance and devotion to party leaders as an essential part of their identity.
Trump is their earthly Lord and saviour. MAGA is their congregation. Their attachment to MAGA and Trump is everything they are. It dictates their entire life, their opinions, their actions, how they look, how they speak, who they interact with, etc.
They cannot comprehend not having unwavering loyalty and blind obedience. Which is why they assume everyone else will do and say anything to protect their “side”. Because that’s what they do. Whether right or wrong, they must always shield and defend Trump.
If my father was in the Epstein files I’m taking the stand and providing dates and times for all childhood sleepovers. If he’s trippin let his ass fall too.
I do care that Republicans also get justice served to them though.
Protect her at all costs. After Trump gets dragged through the dirt, maga crazies who cant comprehend themselves being conned will go after whoever exposed trump. Stay safe please
Agreed, they think both sides protect their own corruption, when its just Republicans, Democrats are more than willing to call their own out and have their day in Court. Though we all know Republicans will protect one person more than any other, the Dumpy.
This shouldn’t be a progressive / conservative split. If you raped children I don’t care what party you are in or even what philanthropic efforts you’ve done. But a certain party is run by a cult of personality and it’s their own identity at risk.
So what happens if Epstein was working with Mossad and was generating kompromat to pressure Democrats (and Republicans) into supporting Israel? Because we've been watching a genocide for two years now that our politicians overwhelmingly support while voters (from both parties) are disgusted by it.
I feel like that is just the tip of the iceberg.
And trumps miss teen USA to source girls…
We will never know cause it will never. One out and people are just grandstanding atp
This right here. The sides are not the same.
Is she saying “bOtH SiDeS” on this? If so, someone on Reddit better get the SpongeBob meme out.
Right here with you... Hell if I had a family member implicated then take their ass down too...
I actually agree with her for once about releasing whatever they’ve got. This redacting garbage is so ridiculous. What, there’s national security issues in these files? What I don’t agree with is that there’s this huge resistance from Republicans. I think pretty much everyone wants to see who’s in there. A LOT of this current smear campaign is set up to paint half the country as pedophile supporters which is utter nonsense. Now if you want to say that a lot of MAGA is super highly skeptical that DJT is implicated, well you’re right on that. So prove it. If I’m wrong fine, take him down.
That’s what you told me when I mentioned the Clintons suiciding 50+ people.
But if he’s not in there, can you just maybe shut the fuck up for a week or so?
This, right the fuck here.
Stop funding them . Go exempt on your checks. No more money for them
The files should of been released when they where recorded, because we all knew this was going to happen. Like you said powerful people are going to keep this covered up.
They couldn't be released until after the trials of they risked letting those in trial get a mistrial and their case dismissed.
Will someone go after these guys already? Quit talking about it - start the trials.
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%208/EFTA00025010.pdf
MAGA love what he did on page 3.
MAGA is still on the “own the libs” poison.
No one who gets that far ahead of the common herd isn’t going to be an “abuser”. By definition they want more than they’re entitled to, and that tendency is an integral part of what makes them “great”.
I’m with AOC
❤️
Dope!
Thank you
Finally something I can agree with AOC on.
And why didn’t Biden release them do 4yrs? Where was this bartenders demands then?
Smartest thing AOC has ever said. Too bad she didn't show this commitment when Democrats had power
stop apologizing for Clinton or anyone else. We all know who is in those files - TRUMP and other republKKKans. Nail them to the wall for the crimes they have committed.
Who's apologizing for Clinton?
all the maggits distracting bbbbbbut Clinton! yeah, prosecute him too if there's proof. But they conveniently ignore all the conservatives with pedo records.
As much as I want every person who committed crimes against the young girls Epstein had,, I think all these people in congress are making sure to protect the pedos! This is the same woman who supported medical procedures to children to make them trans...I have lost hope in all politicians in this past couple decades, we need someone like JFK or his brother Robbie to lead the Democrats and get rid of these corrupt self serving oligarchs and their corporate backers.
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Shutty!
Watching lefties desperately try to depict MAGA as not wanting the files released is hilarious
Now Trump is also a murderer btw. He ordered the kill of a victim of his and Epstein who went to the cops. The file states: her head “blown off”
Merry. Christmas. Guys.
They love to say stuff like “Bill Clinton is in there!” like we won’t say okay, fine, let’s see the evidence and we’ll throw him in jail if he’s guilty too
They are about to come unglued!! Really I just made a porn with my wife with ai.. all stupid
The fucking smug looks they get on their face when they're like "well what if BIDEN is in it, what then?" Everyone on the left has echoed, LOCK THEM UP. The confidence that overcomes them that this is a left conspiracy aginst the right, is astounding. That they think implying that someone from the left is in there that it "owns the libs". Its like "lets go brandon!" all over again.
AOC 💯🤟💯
Dang right, put them all in jail. AOC for Prez.
Weren’t MAGA ppl out for blood because of a pizzeria that was supposedly a den of evil? But now that their entire party is clearly evil and protects these sick degenerates they are all ok with it?
I haven't heard a democrat say anything but this. Try to get maga to say they want trump punished. They may defend him to no end.
And to those on the right she's a horrible person for having these beliefs. I've not heard anyone saying that Clinton should not be punished if it comes out that he's responsible for the things that trump is. But you're seeing a whole lot of Republicans attempting to keep Trump clean because they do not care about the victims.
It's always news to the Right that us on the Left absolutely want anyone, no matter how popular or beneficial to the Left they are, to be prosecuted if they raped people.
Conservatives' reactions are very telling of how they do want to shield child rapists from the law if they feel it will help them get what they want.
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You guys are so smart. We are so dumb. Hopefully this helps you get through your day 🙂 stay strong liberal Redditors.
Coming from the party that lost over 100,000 children. This woman is an idiot
I have a hard time anyone wants to protect abusers.
Let it all out in an open session of congress so nobody has to worry about AI or any other BS and let's get it over with.
Shut up!
Surely there’s at least one democrat whose seen the documents that implicates someone so what gives
It was an ongoing investigation. Nothing could be released.
I’m talking about right now
Okay great. Maybe go help out Thomas massie and Ro Khanna with some real work and stop wasting time virtue signaling to your followers.
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MAGA thinks it's a joke
Shut up stupid and take my drink order.
Bootlicker says what?
Chuck Schumer played with lil boys, Adam Schiff, Hakeem Jefferies...... Clinton's...... There's a lot going on there
Wow…what an extremely normal position. To bad she doesn’t have the insight to lead the left on our new immigration policy, speech policy and foreign policy capitalize on her populism from consolidation of wealth and power and green energy to save the left and lead the country away from fascism.
How long do we have to wait for someone to step up in an actually meaningful way.
What do mean MAGA doesn't understand? That's stupid. Of course we also do not care which side people are on with this.
Then why is every MAGA outlet focusing on democrats and whining about who else is in the files instead of just releasing them? Most of the people in your side of this are continuously bringing up "why didn't Biden release them" or "what if democrat x" is in the files instead of just releasing the fucking things?
Those are the outlets. Trust me, everyday MAGA also want transparency.
But it's not just the outlets. There's also a lot of 'everyday MAGA' that I've spoken to that are listening to those outlets and following right along with the rhetoric.
There will always be ignorant people who will only believe what they want. As a Texas MAGA, I'm saying from my encounters, many are equally frustrated about the BS and want to see it all handed over regardless of who is in the documents.
This should have been done a long time agao. Now we're in a situation where no one even knows what's real and what isn't, especially with AI.
I also do believe it takes a little time to ensure innocent young girls names are protected. Everything else should be unredacted.
I hope the locals in Michigan really are an oddity then, because there's a lot of sheep up here. As far as the reactions go, they've had enough time to take care of it. There's literally thousands of people working at the DOJ capable of doing these minor accepted redactions.
Back peddle gurl... back peddle!!!
What about this is back peddling? You're delusional if you hear "I don't care who is in it, release everything" and think it's back peddling.
So you should step down immediately! You abuse the system everyday
No one with common sense would listen to that idiot
All I hear is blah blah blah blah blah
Liar
Which part?
Pls take a course in public speaking
She says that now
She's been saying this the whole time.
The left had these files for years did nothing. The evidence of hunter Biden and his “issues” the left did nothing. So tell me again how it’s a problem with the right? Ya now you see it’s both.
It's called legal process. I know you've heard this by now, but there were active legal cases while Biden was in office. That means if they released the files then, it could have very easily turned Maxwell's trial into a mistrial, letting her go free. The bigger question is now that the trial is over, why is the Trump administration working so diligently to prevent the release of the files? Seems like the only thing they're actually working hard to achieve is NOT releasing the documents.
Bs
Which part?
you lost me at AOC
So you're admitting willful ignorance instead of listening to someone on the other side for 2 minutes?
I've listened to her screech for quite a few hours. to date, I have never once heard a new thought from her. not a single time. She's basically putting a different shade of lipstick on the same pig of socialism.
i'm old enough to recognize socialism in many forms. you young'uns aren't... and it shows.
I'm not a young as you assume. And you're still ignorant if you think posting disagreement without even listening to the argument is a sane response. Who the hell cares what you think if you're openly admitting you're just here to argue. FYI, she said she doesn't care who, R or D, is in the files. The files need to be released and the guilty need to be prosecuted. Still disagree with her?
She's not wrong....and twice a day, so is a dead clock.
again...not a new idea or concept.
If the goal is to do virtue signalling, she's great.
leadership? nah
It's not virtue signaling, it's keeping up the pressure. It's publicly opposing the bullshit rhetoric and not letting this issue die without a fight. It has nothing to do with socialist ideals or anything else you've described. IMO this is leadership. So what if it's a message that's been said before. The MAGA side keeps repeating the same lines too, only that side refuses to address the elephant in the room or listen to reason. Even if you directly point out where they're misguided or outright wrong, MAGA just continues the same deflection tactics and refusing to get to the bottom of this issue. They'd rather just use terms like 'virtue signaling' and plug their ears than to hear the truth and face the facts.
I think most folks would prefer the Epstein stuff out in the open, dealt with, and done, so we can move on.
The irony is how many people are bitching about it now, but not a peep. Not.a.fucking.peep. for 4 years of Biden.
Do you guys **REALLY** think that if there was any sort of smoking gun against Trump (or anyone on the right) that it would NOT have been leaked by now??
Yeah, it's called a trial in progress. Would you rather Maxwell get her trial thrown out so she could go back to what she was doing instead of going to prison? It was illegal to release the files during an ongoing case. This can't be the first time you've heard this, so why are you still beating that drum?
Sorry, but this is laughably shallow and requires a level of faith in the integrity of people like Biden, Garland, and Wray, that's entirely unsupported by the facts of what other actions they did.
you are saying you HONESTLY believe that these feckless traitors (who were 100% involved in fabrication and support of a dozen seditious hoaxes against Trump) somehow held the line at withholding evidcence against a political opponnent?
Remember, they were directly involved in numerous hoax accusation collaborations ranging from the Russian collusion hoax (covering for Hillary while falsely accusing Trump) to numerous ongoing false narratives leading to multiple impeachment attempts, to even having his security downgraded (despite numerous known assassination plots against him by foreign actors), thus allowing several attempted assassinations of him.
These are the people you're claiming would only act in pure and honorable ways?
spare us the idiocy.
You're deflecting from the entire issue.
The whole "what about Biden" argument is flawed at the beginning. Who gives a flying fuck about the past, the point is all of the files need to be released, and anyone in them needs to be properly investigated and/or charged no matter who they are. Our government, no matter who is in charge, needs to stop protecting abusers and hiding the facts around this issue.
It doesn't matter if it was released before now or not. Basing Trump's innocence on what the Biden administration did or did not do is simply not sound logic. You're injecting your opinions on them into the scenario and using that as evidence that there's nothing noteworthy about Trump in the files. I'm saying forget about all of that, release ALL of the files, and we will see what the truth is.
If Trump is innocent, which I highly doubt based on his long history of deplorable actions, then so be it. It needs to be done still. We will never agree on most of the points you just made, but in the context of Epstien, it doesn't matter anyways. And that is the entire point of what AOC was saying here.
I'm old enough to where my brain is mush from inhaling lead gasoline fumes
FTFY
Anyone need a bartender
"Anyone can be president in America!"
"Go home, ex-bartender!"
If there weren't a double standard, the GOP would have none.
I’d T ake her over your beloved child rapist.
Well bartending is about all she’s good at😂😂
While Trump is good at fraud, insurrection, and child raping.
Never said anything about Trump. TDS is sting with you.😂😂
Tell us the lowest-paid job you've ever had, so we can judge your entire life's work on it. TYIA
Democrats just want to watch the videos.
Let’s just keep pretending Biden didn’t have 4 years to release the files and chose not to
Biden is a structuralist and couldn’t legally release the files.
The files were locked up pending appeal and they extended the deadline twice.
It's not copium, it's called following the law. Something Trump and MAGA idiots can't comprehend.
Classic MAGA response. Wouldn’t dare let facts get in the way of a phony Fox News narrative.
Let’s keep pretending this hasn’t been explained to you and you choose to ignore it.
Going to bat for pedophiles is not a good look.
I couldn’t agree more but have to wonder why everything wasn’t brought to light between 2020 and 2024?
IT’s_TWO_WINGS_OF_THE_SAME_BAT!
Because the files were still part of an ongoing FBI investigation. How was Biden going to make files that are part of a huge investigation available to the public? Come on now.
And, even if Biden could’ve released them and chose not to, then he should also be held accountable.
So jealous my 2 cousins pounded her before she was elected. SMH
"well, not me personally, but this guy I know.... him and her GOT. IT. ON."
They tag teamed her in her mom or grandmas fur coat and that’s all she had on lol. They said it smelled like it had been in an attic for years but that didn’t stop them. Apparently she moaned from the time it started until they finished and said it was like being in a porno.
Sounds like she had a good time, good for her
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Why do you care, at this point? Do you want the files released or not?
Because it all means nothing without context. Liberals didn’t want them released under Biden because they feared for the victims rights. People were making that excuse constantly. Now suddenly Trump is in power and yall want everything released u redacted, screw the victims right? Hypocrisy has never been more abundant in the right and the left as it has been this era.
So, do you want the files released or not? Do you want democrats, republicans, and everyone else investigated or not?
They were still sealed by the courts during the Biden administration 🤦🏽♂️
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Just commit a crime, federal government. It's so obvious. Lmao.
Rule 7.
So they couldn’t do anything FFS without breaking the law and executive oversteps like Trump and MAGA Republicans do constantly. Have a good one ✌🏽
Joe Biden did not run on “releasing the Epstein files.” Donald Trump did. That is the difference.
Does someone need to run on something to be a leader and do something about it?
Why do you make excuses for pedophiles?
She is a pedo now?
Your Dear Leader Trump
You should check out r/pastorarrested lol
Cope!!
”I’ll tell you the funniest is that I’ll go backstage before a show and everyone’s getting dressed. No men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in, because I’m the owner of the [Miss Teen USA] pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it. … ‘Is everyone OK?' You know, they’re [underage TEEN girls] standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody OK?’ And you see these incredible-looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.”
-Donald J. Trump
She did. Trump had them blocked then too
lol the cope
B/c it wasn't a corrupt executive administration hiding them
Yet it hid them
Nope. A judge sealed them.
Rule 7 - Tu Quoque is a fallacy, not an argument.
Also because they were sealed and it would have been illegal.
Fart sound.
STFU
Has the truth struck a nerve?
Pussytroll∆
You support sex abuse
Solid counter argument
And yet she said nothing during the Biden presidency
Nor did she try to protect anyone who might be in the files, as Trump and Republicans are doing now.
umm
Conservatives didnt want the files released. They were concerned it would harm pedophiles like Trump.
Democrats didn’t want it either- which is why nothing was said about it during the Biden presidency. It’s clear democrats had just as much incentive then to protect bill and Hillary as republicans do trump
And yet democrats have been saying if Bill is in the files, he can go to hell, while you people make up all sorts of excuses for why trump didn't release the files either time he was president. Democrats have no incentive to protect Bill, they just understood why trump had the files locked up to begin with. Same as understanding why conservatives are okay with that.
First off, I’m not republican and especially not MAGA. Democrats are only pushing this now because it’s damaging trump. Which honestly I’m fine with- just be honest about the reasons. Democrats didnt say shit when Biden was in office- and the had EVERY incentive not to drag Hillary and other dem supporters (Noam Chomsky anyone?) into this nightmare. Democrats made this as much about politics as republicans- the sad part is this should have blown up 15 years ago and people like you are only upset now because your dem leaders finally allowed you to. You’re a sheep
No, you're just parroting their talking points while ignoring the actual explanation as to what happened to the files. This not even considering the fact that, for as loudly as trump whipped his sheeple up into wanting these files they knew nothing about released, they've been unsurprisingly quiet since he decreed them a hoax.
Your acting stinks and you should be fired.
You literally said a bunch of nothing. Please enlighten me- which talking points am I parroting and I will gladly overwhelm you with actual facts
I said plenty. You're literally pushing the exact same narrative maga has been pushing these last few years while ignoring the response given, so why would anyone think giving you it again would be successful? You started off pushing a strawman that has been debunked for months. Its pretty clear you have no facts, merely curated and cherrypicked quotes to deflect culpability.
Like I said, you're acting stinks and you should be fired.
Again- a bunch of nothing except typical drivel when you’ve lost an argument.
What argument? You're not arguing, you're monologuing, trying to give a lecture as if you have the weight of facts on your side. All while regurgitating the same half-truths and ignorance trump was pushing for his campaign. Faking like you don't have a narrative bias to protect your diddler-in-chief. And now you wanna declare yourself winner and get a participation trophy.
Fart sound.
Yet she abuses her voters daily…hypocrisy at its finest
lol nice source
You do try so hard.
All over subreddits that you clearly are just in to ragebait.
What a fulfilling life you must have.
Pussytroll∆
You voted for Citizens United v FEC. sybau.