Bonus: if you own a tp-link, NETGEAR router you probably already have the vpn feature on your router settings turn it on it will generate a openvpn config file and share it with your friends that have the Netflix login.
if you can follow instructions exactly, I have a wrx36 off of amazon ($60 at the time) flashed to openWRT snapshot. been main router for a year now. plenty of power and i/o for multiple tunnels and adblocking.
And for all the Germans out there: most modern FRITZ!Boxes have a similar feature. They even support the Wireguard protocol. Only on some older models, you need to resort to IPSec with IKEv1 (which can be a pain in the ass depending on the system you want to connect on)
Suggestions for purchase/setup? I’m brand new to servers. Or a subreddit related to it, if you have it please? :) ty
Edit: I dont know why I got hella downvoted (maybe I broke a rule though) but never mind! It’s on me for asking questions, my bad, I’ll be sure not to ever again in /r/piracy! You really got me there, with my being a new user and all.
I guess we’re doing the 2000s method of learning new tech stuff (you know, where we tell anyone with less knowledge to go fuck themselves). Cool cool, although your hobby’s fucked without new people.
Edit 2: some of y’all replied trying to help. Thanks a ton!
These past couple days I'm intermittently getting the "media not cached" error where nothing plays and doesn't actually cache when you come back hours later.
Assuming you theoretically only allowed outbound traffic to static, never-changing Netflix and YouTube IP ranges, if your friends use your Tailscale exit node they would basically lose internet access
Otherwise you open yourself up to abuse and potential DMCA complaints. And that's assuming Netflix/YT use static IP pools: some services rely exclusively on DNS and use lots of IP adresses. You'd need some kind of fancy VPN/iptables rules to exclusively route YT/Netflix traffic through an exit node and leave any other traffic untouched.
Netflix can afford to do whatever. They aren't letting you share not because they can't afford it, but because they want to make even more money than they were making with sharing. There is a difference.
Fuck yeah. Fuck Netflix. I'm not going to pay a subscription to now have to check in with them when I go on fucking vacation. I'll travel when I want to travel. I'll share my account with whoever I want to share my account with. If they get in the way of that, they can kick rocks.
No other streaming service I've ever paid for gives me any grief about this. That is the only reason I'll pay for a streaming service, convenience. Otherwise, I'll find the content online for free, or watch something that is more convenient.
I thought this was the funniest shit when it happened. Reddit cries out in one voice that Netflix is going to go bankrupt because literally everyone will cancel their accounts. Millions of new accounts overnight. Fucking lmao
Im not sure if I believe that . They somehow reactivated all of my old emails i had linked to google pay after I canceled my netflix. I unsubscribed and the next month I had 5 subscriptions!
You think me not wanting to give them my money is me trying to show them up? That's cute. No. I care what I spend my money on. I do not want to give them my money. Is that a difficult concept for you to understand?
You made a comment acting like ending password sharing made everyone cancel, and pointed out how this was unlikely to allow them to afford buying WB. That guy provided evidence that your claims are wrong, that people actually made their own accounts, thus providing Netflix with significantly more money than before.
Is that a difficult concept for you to understand?
Nope. Never suggested or acted like it made everyone cancel. So I guess that means it was difficult for you to understand.
The original comment stated that this decision to remove account sharing is THE reason for why they can afford to buy the company. I am skeptical that this reputation damaging move is THE reason. Was this one decision profitable for them? Maybe yes, I really don't care about that. It was the reason I canceled. It was the reason many people I know also canceled. Did me and those people I know make a dent in their profits? Probably not. Was that my point? No.
My point was, and still is, that this greedy decision of theirs to crackdown on account sharing is not THE reason for why Netflix has the money to buy the company.
I'm sure the one feature that made me and everyone I know cancel their subscription is exactly the reason why they can afford it.
What is the point of this sentence then? If you aren't (wrongly) implying that other people are like you and also mass cancelled, then how would you and 5 other people cancelling offset Netflix's income?
You are, again, focusing on the point about offsetting their income. That was never my point.
I don't care if they saw an increase from this one decision. This one increase is not the sole reason for why they have the money to purchase another company. That was the whole point. It's that simple. End of story. That was the reason for my initial comment.
If you want to go more in-depth, then you also fail to grasp the possibility that people may have purchased a new account in response to their account sharing crackdown, sure. That may have increased their profits, sure. However, it can ALSO cause long-term damage to their reputation. This can easily be in the back of someone's mind when they do decide to cancel for other compounding reasons.
One anti-consumer policy can be forgiven. Different people have different thresholds for cancelation. Mine, and many people I know, were clearly lower than all the people that made their own account after that crackdown. That doesn't mean it was forgotten by those people. If you add the crackdown, plus price increases, plus change or removal of content, that's a much stronger reason for someone to cancel than if they only noticed one bad thing. You can't always rely on data alone for why people choose to cancel at any given moment.
It isn't, actually. I explained that. You'd know if you looked at the very next section after what you just quoted. You're free to believe whatever you want. You can be as wrong as you stubbornly want to be.
Do you think I said that I made a dent in their revenue?
Or maybe you assumed wrong. I'm skeptical that ONE move they did that damaged their reputation is most likely not THE reason that they can afford to buy WB.
Or you're just really excited to share this info with me for no reason?
That's the funny ha ha answer. Let's get the real answer.
Because Warner Brothers used to let Netflix license off this content. But then Warner wanted to get in on the streaming action.
And we were all pissed at Warner Brothers for fucking us over and requiring us to pay double a monthly fee to access everything we used to get for one fee.
And now Netflix is trying to buy all the content back and we are pissed at Netflix?
Warner Brothers is the one who fucked us over.
Netflix is the one trying to un-fuck it. You think Netflix wants to have to fork cash? They want to simply go back to how it was: lease it at a fair rate.
As far as I'm concerned, every company that has streaming content should be required to lease it to Netflix at wholesale rates. Exclusive context should be illegal. I should pay one fee for everything, and the media companies can work out fee-sharing agreement.
Instead Warner held their content for ransom for, what was it, $53 billion?
This is why i pirate. Because Warner Brothers refused to let Netflix license the content. Well agreed that it was great when streaming solved the problem that piracy used to solve.
Whoever wins the bidding war (Paramount or Netflix) will raise monthly rates accordingly to "afford" the purchase. I've already dropped Netflix, Paramount will be next when my year is up.
I hate to play devils advocate, but this is like saying "a restaurant can expand to a new location, but they can't give me free food?"
Yes, Netflix is greedy. Canceling them five years ago after numerous price increases was one of the best things I ever did. If you want to show them who's the boss, stop paying them. But I doubt I need to say that on this sub.
There's no need to play devil's advocate. You sign up for an account and agree to the terms that say "this account is for me. My friend has to buy their own account"
Why are so many people confused that a company exists to make money?
There's no need to play devil's advocate. You sign up for an account and agree to the terms that say "this account is for me. My friend has to buy their own account"
Why are so many people confused that a company exists to make money?
Well, Netflix initially PROMOTED password sharing and advertised the service as something you could share with Grandma in Alaska.
I never did agree to have my own account I shared with all my relatives just as Netflix suggested and the terms of service allowed.
Seems to me you might have need to play devils advocate given that Netflix's promotion of password sharing to build their brand in the first place completely undermines your argument.
I think the complaints stacked up to current state
wish it worked like owning physical media, but understandable for streaming service, able to tolerate compromise on shows being here and there due to licensing
unable to manually set resolutions, don't mind buffering like torrenting, just give me a moment to be able to watch selected quality regardless of my internet speed
relevant: browser can only watch 720p
actually wanting to share account as family members are now living in different parts of the world
not everyone is in first world having 100k income, even with regional pricing, it may still be quite luxurious for some countries.
yes, all these have solutions, but we want to pay to have good service, now in the point where pirated solution seems to work the best in terms of quality and accessibility
Your old college buddy in Florida can't eat the same burger you're eating in OH. The burger is a finite resource where Netflix access is not. You're trying to get your buddy into the clurb on one cover charge.
Not really. The meal is a finite resource. Nobody would care if you paid for your meal and gave some of it to your friend. If your meal was an infinite resource like going to a buffet, they would take issue with you paying for yourself only and giving the other person some of your food. The difference is you're not paying for dinner, you're paying for access.
Netflix doesn't owe anyone but the person paying for the account anything.
Netflix doesn't owe anyone but the person paying for the account anything.
I'm paying for 4 streams concurrently. So I'm paying for me and 3 friends. But at one point they decided that those friends need to be at my house all at once, even though they explicitly welcomed this practice earlier.
Now this makes me think... since shows, films and services can be removed (which happens daily) or shutdown at a moments notice, wouldn't that make it a finite resource? i mean it's not infinite if it can be removed at anytime.
Now sharing a dvd now that's ok! but is a dvd a finite or infinite resource?
Yes, but you're not paying per title. You're paying for access to the service. The understanding that content isn't permanently available is implicit with purchasing access.
It's kind of like there might not always be crab legs on the buffet. And the buffet never promised to always have crab legs. Or sometimes the crab legs are imitation crab.
I find it interesting how corporations successfully convinced customers that they barely have any rights on the product they paid for at all. "You are paying for access." wait for the word 'access' to turn into 'preview' in time and you will have even less rights. And then before too long after that, the more you watch the more you are paying. It's a 'pay as you go' plan you see? And the customers will be convinced again because they're fed the narrative that unlike before, you don't have to pay for content you are not interested in. It's fairer for everyone!
Which is where the analogy breaks apart because food is limited. If you take a fry off my plate that's one less fry for me. If I'm paying for enough food to satisfy two people whether that's served as one big portion or two doesn't matter. The amount of food doesn't go up by sharing.
If you ordered 2 steaks but only paid for 1 I think restaurants would have a problem with that.
password sharing is not “giving away food for free”. access to the content has been paid for by the owner of the account. netflix has already made money off of this exchange. what you are actually describing is a refusal by netflix to lose the potential for profit by forcing someone to purchase their own netflix account instead of being able to share with a friend.
unfortunately for netflix, the kind of person who only shares passwords and has to be forced into paying for an account is usually also the kind of person who simply won’t watch netflix if they can’t do so for free.
or, you know, they’ll just go pirate it. but either way, netflix was never going to make any additional money off of this person in the first place — if we set aside how genuinely ridiculous the idea of losing imaginary profit is in the first place
That’s just the same argument used to excuse places like fast food joints who are strictly ordered to not allow homeless people to eat food from the trash while that same chain is billions in the green and buying up real estate. Make the analogy with a car loan. While you’re leasing a car is it the banks place to tell you who you can and cannot let drive it? Still paying off your new iPhone so Apple can say you’re not allowed to let anyone else use it? It just goes on but even playing Devil’s Advocate (not streaming on Netflix) it’s all just awful and can only be justified by people willing to jump through as many hoops necessary to defend greed for the sake of it.
Besides that, don't y'all understand how shit like this works? Do y'all think Netflix is paying that amount cash? Most of that is a LOAN and it hasn't been disclosed how much of the remaining amount is from outside investors. There's no way Netflix pays $80B from their own pockets........
This acquisition will move Netflix from the A credit rating to the BBB credit rating because they're going to be $11b in debt + add around $50B of debt to it (the loan). Their hope is that they can pay off the debt fast enough for the acquisition to make sense.
They are here to make as much money as possible. I think the sharing became a problem when underground services started offering logins to shared plans. Even if you limit how many screens are active at the same time it would be hard to fight that. Though I would be nice for a FHD/single user/one active for a reasonable price. Crazy to think that mail to home DVD service became this. Wild, didn't see that coming. To take down blockbuster was eye-opening.
It's because they don't let you share passwords that they can afford to buy WB instead of paying for the originally planned 2 more episodes of Umbrella Academy Season 4.
They bleed every cent out of you so they can spend lavishly.
again, it isn't about what can or can't be afforded. Capitalism is about MAXIMIZING profit. Not just making "some" profit. If they can buy warner bros AND make people buy subs so they don't share, then they will do it because that maximizes the bottomline. Capitalism does not care about what is "right" they will use slave labor if it isn't regulated against. Deregulation does not make miracle utopias happen. It's regulation that prevents slavery. These companies would gladly do that if a government told them it was legally allowed. Hence why we do use slave labor in 3rd world countries to get our resources, because the companies don't actually care about morals, they have to get regulated to care about it.
that's a stupid thing to say when the quality of literally everything is so piss poor right now. we'll see how much money the world has to spend when gta 6 comes out.
If you're talking games, 2025 has been a bell weather year for new games and franchises. Are you just ignoring the millions upon millions who bought whole new consoles to play Mario Kart?
I used to like this sub because of the tutorials of new methods and stuff like that. Not sure when it became a collection of low effort, unfunny and stupid memes.
They can't afford to buy it, one report called it "Netflix having to look for coins in their sofa" but they're doing it anyway, because eliminating competition opens the door wider for more price increases. Cable subscriptions are up for the first time in 8 years, because the streamers were always going to put the squeeze on consumers once they thought they'd killed off the competition.
I don't care about their movies to a degree but leave the games. Don't touch Batman or mortal Kombat... HOWEVER if they want to bring back injustice 👀👀👀
I mean if WB is going to be acquired by any streaming service, Netflix is the best one. Less time in theaters is a win for everyone, regardless if they pirate or not.
That being said, fuck these mega billion dollar corporation mergers.
Welcome to capitalism. The same fat cats who boast about record profits, turn around and tell us that they can only ever INCREASE the prices of things, never decrease. Shrinkflation was happening before the tariffs and the only thing that forces corporations to back down is governmental involvement, but good luck with that.
Yeah, it’s just not update Enough. And it has to be an old one because I think you have to update Netflix to the latest version. Every time an update comes out.
Being a pirate or even anticorpo isn't an excuse to be stupid. Buying assets and wringing more revenue from customers is not contradictory in any way. Companies don't exist to break even, not even in socialist or communist countries. Cracking down on password sharing sucks, but it is in no way Netflix claiming they are low on money.
Everyone knows this but the level of greed is what ticks people off i think. Personally i think bitching about it changes nothing, vote with your wallet. Thats the only voice that matters today
Whaaaa, I can't have Netflix for free. That's you. That's what you're saying. Netflix also still runs full production houses, so I'm not sure what the creative comment is about.
Netflix at the beginning was operating at a loss. But investors were promised that if they paid to run this apparently cheap service , people would be hooked.
It worked , but for how long ?
Netflix has been a lie day 1, and every day they will find new ways to conclude the strategy of hooking people with their subscription to keep them in and become profitable by being shittier and shittier to go from being a loss to printing money on the back of people that don't get what they pay for.
You should have known this before they purchased anything - that works against you more than it seems lol
Funny, you mean we could have paid for all homeless to have homes, a better education system and no taxes but we choose to send 300billion to israhell?
It's not like Netflix is going to the bank and wiring the money to WB. It's not like a traditional liquid transaction. Multiple banks are providing loans against the companies stock to do the acquisition... So no Netflix doesn't have the money. They're getting a loan.
Buy a home server. Make it a VPN server. Let your friends connect to your VPN server. Same IP = Problem solved.
Or else….skip Netflix and AARR!
Bonus: if you own a tp-link, NETGEAR router you probably already have the vpn feature on your router settings turn it on it will generate a openvpn config file and share it with your friends that have the Netflix login.
Also good for traveling abroad and having your bank/secure logins not force additional kyc.
Ooh, might need to switch go netgear... ive been wanting to swap out the isp router but been slacking on research
if you can follow instructions exactly, I have a wrx36 off of amazon ($60 at the time) flashed to openWRT snapshot. been main router for a year now. plenty of power and i/o for multiple tunnels and adblocking.
I do have a tplink router, specifically the deco x50 mesh. So I set up a VPN server and connect to it while I'm in China to unblock Google.
And for all the Germans out there: most modern FRITZ!Boxes have a similar feature. They even support the Wireguard protocol. Only on some older models, you need to resort to IPSec with IKEv1 (which can be a pain in the ass depending on the system you want to connect on)
That's very easy to do with Tailscale
Or by sharing/streaming physical media with Jellyfin
Is that like make your own media library?
Yeah jellyfin is the latest media server app.
My Jellyfin has been a godsend to all my friends and family.
I mean if you are going to such lengths....just pirate. Make sure you seed!
Hi, I am a total noob. What sources would you recommend me to try this at my house?
Suggestions for purchase/setup? I’m brand new to servers. Or a subreddit related to it, if you have it please? :) ty
Edit: I dont know why I got hella downvoted (maybe I broke a rule though) but never mind! It’s on me for asking questions, my bad, I’ll be sure not to ever again in /r/piracy! You really got me there, with my being a new user and all.
I guess we’re doing the 2000s method of learning new tech stuff (you know, where we tell anyone with less knowledge to go fuck themselves). Cool cool, although your hobby’s fucked without new people.
Edit 2: some of y’all replied trying to help. Thanks a ton!
r/selfhosted
r/homelab as well
Tysm
Thanks dude :) I’ll work from here.
I’ve had very good results with plex. I recommend it greatly.
Ty, Ill check it out :)
I use an old laptop with two old hdds via usb. Works flawlessly.
Hey, I appreciate it
someone had to take one for the team, thanks for your sacrifice budddy.
Nice try fed!
My internet is not fast enough :(
1mb/s upload reporting in. German internet really is utter garbage.
Netflix vs AARR!
Man I miss sailing. It I don’t have the time or energy or equipment to sort out getting back on board these days
Wait that’s all you gotta do is create a vpn server then can let someone use real debrid account from somewhere else?
It's ok, I have stremio
These past couple days I'm intermittently getting the "media not cached" error where nothing plays and doesn't actually cache when you come back hours later.
I wouldn't go that far. That sounds like a security exploit waiting to happen.
so be careful
You can configure which ports are accessible by your friends and where exactly they lead. You configure it properly and you will be fine.
Assuming you theoretically only allowed outbound traffic to static, never-changing Netflix and YouTube IP ranges, if your friends use your Tailscale exit node they would basically lose internet access
Otherwise you open yourself up to abuse and potential DMCA complaints. And that's assuming Netflix/YT use static IP pools: some services rely exclusively on DNS and use lots of IP adresses. You'd need some kind of fancy VPN/iptables rules to exclusively route YT/Netflix traffic through an exit node and leave any other traffic untouched.
You gotta get YouTube certified™ in networking security first.
they call it theft of services
Well, technically it's just a flaw in their implementation that they've fixed.
The bigger flaw they have is that we still keep watching their content even without an account.
That's gotta make them go "Hmmm"
Netflix can afford to do whatever. They aren't letting you share not because they can't afford it, but because they want to make even more money than they were making with sharing. There is a difference.
thanks mr obvious
Didn't seem so obvious to the OP. But in any event, you're welcome.
OP isn’t saying that.
It’s acknowledging that they DON’T have to stop password sharing… they’re just doing it for money.
Cmon man. That’s basic comprehension.
its very hard to explain to a fish that air is breathable.
The numbers must always go up.
That’s literally what this meme is saying.
Netflix can afford to buy warner because they dont allow you to share "your" password
So now I share my Jellyfin library instead and Netflix doesn't get shit.
Fuck yeah. Fuck Netflix. I'm not going to pay a subscription to now have to check in with them when I go on fucking vacation. I'll travel when I want to travel. I'll share my account with whoever I want to share my account with. If they get in the way of that, they can kick rocks.
No other streaming service I've ever paid for gives me any grief about this. That is the only reason I'll pay for a streaming service, convenience. Otherwise, I'll find the content online for free, or watch something that is more convenient.
Yeah, I'm sure the one feature that made me and everyone I know cancel their subscription is exactly the reason why they can afford it.
To be fair with the facts, Netflix came out ahead with that move. Enough people signed up to outweigh the losses. It's sad, but it's also reality.
Yup you guys sure showed them. "Netflix Added 9.33 Million New Subscribers After Password-Sharing Crackdown"
I thought this was the funniest shit when it happened. Reddit cries out in one voice that Netflix is going to go bankrupt because literally everyone will cancel their accounts. Millions of new accounts overnight. Fucking lmao
Im not sure if I believe that . They somehow reactivated all of my old emails i had linked to google pay after I canceled my netflix. I unsubscribed and the next month I had 5 subscriptions!
You think me not wanting to give them my money is me trying to show them up? That's cute. No. I care what I spend my money on. I do not want to give them my money. Is that a difficult concept for you to understand?
You made a comment acting like ending password sharing made everyone cancel, and pointed out how this was unlikely to allow them to afford buying WB. That guy provided evidence that your claims are wrong, that people actually made their own accounts, thus providing Netflix with significantly more money than before.
Is that a difficult concept for you to understand?
Nope. Never suggested or acted like it made everyone cancel. So I guess that means it was difficult for you to understand.
The original comment stated that this decision to remove account sharing is THE reason for why they can afford to buy the company. I am skeptical that this reputation damaging move is THE reason. Was this one decision profitable for them? Maybe yes, I really don't care about that. It was the reason I canceled. It was the reason many people I know also canceled. Did me and those people I know make a dent in their profits? Probably not. Was that my point? No.
My point was, and still is, that this greedy decision of theirs to crackdown on account sharing is not THE reason for why Netflix has the money to buy the company.
What is the point of this sentence then? If you aren't (wrongly) implying that other people are like you and also mass cancelled, then how would you and 5 other people cancelling offset Netflix's income?
You are, again, focusing on the point about offsetting their income. That was never my point.
I don't care if they saw an increase from this one decision. This one increase is not the sole reason for why they have the money to purchase another company. That was the whole point. It's that simple. End of story. That was the reason for my initial comment.
If you want to go more in-depth, then you also fail to grasp the possibility that people may have purchased a new account in response to their account sharing crackdown, sure. That may have increased their profits, sure. However, it can ALSO cause long-term damage to their reputation. This can easily be in the back of someone's mind when they do decide to cancel for other compounding reasons.
One anti-consumer policy can be forgiven. Different people have different thresholds for cancelation. Mine, and many people I know, were clearly lower than all the people that made their own account after that crackdown. That doesn't mean it was forgotten by those people. If you add the crackdown, plus price increases, plus change or removal of content, that's a much stronger reason for someone to cancel than if they only noticed one bad thing. You can't always rely on data alone for why people choose to cancel at any given moment.
I'm focusing on that because that is literally what you fucking said
It isn't, actually. I explained that. You'd know if you looked at the very next section after what you just quoted. You're free to believe whatever you want. You can be as wrong as you stubbornly want to be.
"me and everyone I know"
Netflix has over 300 million paying subscribers. you and everyone you know is less than 10 people cancelling a subscription.
That's cool man.
Do you think I said that I made a dent in their revenue?
Or maybe you assumed wrong. I'm skeptical that ONE move they did that damaged their reputation is most likely not THE reason that they can afford to buy WB.
Or you're just really excited to share this info with me for no reason?
It's not the one reason but it did make more people actually get subscriptions than not.
shareholders > customers
without the shareholders who would rob us of all our money?
How do you suggest they get the money to buy Warner?
They can pull themselves up by their bootstraps just like the rest of us
That's the funny ha ha answer. Let's get the real answer.
Because Warner Brothers used to let Netflix license off this content. But then Warner wanted to get in on the streaming action.
And we were all pissed at Warner Brothers for fucking us over and requiring us to pay double a monthly fee to access everything we used to get for one fee.
And now Netflix is trying to buy all the content back and we are pissed at Netflix?
Warner Brothers is the one who fucked us over.
Netflix is the one trying to un-fuck it. You think Netflix wants to have to fork cash? They want to simply go back to how it was: lease it at a fair rate.
As far as I'm concerned, every company that has streaming content should be required to lease it to Netflix at wholesale rates. Exclusive context should be illegal. I should pay one fee for everything, and the media companies can work out fee-sharing agreement.
Instead Warner held their content for ransom for, what was it, $53 billion?
This is why i pirate. Because Warner Brothers refused to let Netflix license the content. Well agreed that it was great when streaming solved the problem that piracy used to solve.
Hmmm 🤔 u not wrong
Whoever wins the bidding war (Paramount or Netflix) will raise monthly rates accordingly to "afford" the purchase. I've already dropped Netflix, Paramount will be next when my year is up.
When they stopped my siblings and I from password sharing is when I went back to sailing the seas.
Never should’ve left! 🏴☠️
I hate to play devils advocate, but this is like saying "a restaurant can expand to a new location, but they can't give me free food?"
Yes, Netflix is greedy. Canceling them five years ago after numerous price increases was one of the best things I ever did. If you want to show them who's the boss, stop paying them. But I doubt I need to say that on this sub.
There's no need to play devil's advocate. You sign up for an account and agree to the terms that say "this account is for me. My friend has to buy their own account"
Why are so many people confused that a company exists to make money?
Well, Netflix initially PROMOTED password sharing and advertised the service as something you could share with Grandma in Alaska.
I never did agree to have my own account I shared with all my relatives just as Netflix suggested and the terms of service allowed.
Seems to me you might have need to play devils advocate given that Netflix's promotion of password sharing to build their brand in the first place completely undermines your argument.
There’s a weird thing with Netflix specifically where people here think they were somehow….noble, or something, in the beginning? It’s very strange.
I think the complaints stacked up to current state
not everyone is in first world having 100k income, even with regional pricing, it may still be quite luxurious for some countries.
yes, all these have solutions, but we want to pay to have good service, now in the point where pirated solution seems to work the best in terms of quality and accessibility
It’s more like a restaurant can expand to a new location but they won’t let me give the person I’m eating out with a bit of my food
Your old college buddy in Florida can't eat the same burger you're eating in OH. The burger is a finite resource where Netflix access is not. You're trying to get your buddy into the clurb on one cover charge.
Not really. The meal is a finite resource. Nobody would care if you paid for your meal and gave some of it to your friend. If your meal was an infinite resource like going to a buffet, they would take issue with you paying for yourself only and giving the other person some of your food. The difference is you're not paying for dinner, you're paying for access.
Netflix doesn't owe anyone but the person paying for the account anything.
I'm paying for 4 streams concurrently. So I'm paying for me and 3 friends. But at one point they decided that those friends need to be at my house all at once, even though they explicitly welcomed this practice earlier.
Now this makes me think... since shows, films and services can be removed (which happens daily) or shutdown at a moments notice, wouldn't that make it a finite resource? i mean it's not infinite if it can be removed at anytime.
Now sharing a dvd now that's ok! but is a dvd a finite or infinite resource?
Yes, but you're not paying per title. You're paying for access to the service. The understanding that content isn't permanently available is implicit with purchasing access.
It's kind of like there might not always be crab legs on the buffet. And the buffet never promised to always have crab legs. Or sometimes the crab legs are imitation crab.
let's eat at home then.
netflix at home it is.
That was always allowed.
but priorities seem different for a whole lot of people
I find it interesting how corporations successfully convinced customers that they barely have any rights on the product they paid for at all. "You are paying for access." wait for the word 'access' to turn into 'preview' in time and you will have even less rights. And then before too long after that, the more you watch the more you are paying. It's a 'pay as you go' plan you see? And the customers will be convinced again because they're fed the narrative that unlike before, you don't have to pay for content you are not interested in. It's fairer for everyone!
Which is where the analogy breaks apart because food is limited. If you take a fry off my plate that's one less fry for me. If I'm paying for enough food to satisfy two people whether that's served as one big portion or two doesn't matter. The amount of food doesn't go up by sharing.
If you ordered 2 steaks but only paid for 1 I think restaurants would have a problem with that.
password sharing is not “giving away food for free”. access to the content has been paid for by the owner of the account. netflix has already made money off of this exchange. what you are actually describing is a refusal by netflix to lose the potential for profit by forcing someone to purchase their own netflix account instead of being able to share with a friend.
unfortunately for netflix, the kind of person who only shares passwords and has to be forced into paying for an account is usually also the kind of person who simply won’t watch netflix if they can’t do so for free.
or, you know, they’ll just go pirate it. but either way, netflix was never going to make any additional money off of this person in the first place — if we set aside how genuinely ridiculous the idea of losing imaginary profit is in the first place
That’s just the same argument used to excuse places like fast food joints who are strictly ordered to not allow homeless people to eat food from the trash while that same chain is billions in the green and buying up real estate. Make the analogy with a car loan. While you’re leasing a car is it the banks place to tell you who you can and cannot let drive it? Still paying off your new iPhone so Apple can say you’re not allowed to let anyone else use it? It just goes on but even playing Devil’s Advocate (not streaming on Netflix) it’s all just awful and can only be justified by people willing to jump through as many hoops necessary to defend greed for the sake of it.
No allowing shared accounts = more money.
Besides that, don't y'all understand how shit like this works? Do y'all think Netflix is paying that amount cash? Most of that is a LOAN and it hasn't been disclosed how much of the remaining amount is from outside investors. There's no way Netflix pays $80B from their own pockets........
This acquisition will move Netflix from the A credit rating to the BBB credit rating because they're going to be $11b in debt + add around $50B of debt to it (the loan). Their hope is that they can pay off the debt fast enough for the acquisition to make sense.
Remember Netflix used to say "Love is sharing a password" 2025 version "Love is sharing a password if you decide to pay extra"
Remember when doctors used to promote cigarettes because they were healthy? Yeah, things change. You would do the same shit to make money.
they also cant afford to keep the prices low
They are here to make as much money as possible. I think the sharing became a problem when underground services started offering logins to shared plans. Even if you limit how many screens are active at the same time it would be hard to fight that. Though I would be nice for a FHD/single user/one active for a reasonable price. Crazy to think that mail to home DVD service became this. Wild, didn't see that coming. To take down blockbuster was eye-opening.
Ya.
That's how they can afford to buy WB.
You answered your own question lol
people still use streaming services? weak
It's because they don't let you share passwords, that they can afford to buy WB. Isn't that obvious?
Give more money to these greedy corporates. Go on...
It's because they don't let you share passwords that they can afford to buy WB instead of paying for the originally planned 2 more episodes of Umbrella Academy Season 4.
They bleed every cent out of you so they can spend lavishly.
It's because they don't allow you to share passwords that they can afford Warner Brothers Discovery.
again, it isn't about what can or can't be afforded. Capitalism is about MAXIMIZING profit. Not just making "some" profit. If they can buy warner bros AND make people buy subs so they don't share, then they will do it because that maximizes the bottomline. Capitalism does not care about what is "right" they will use slave labor if it isn't regulated against. Deregulation does not make miracle utopias happen. It's regulation that prevents slavery. These companies would gladly do that if a government told them it was legally allowed. Hence why we do use slave labor in 3rd world countries to get our resources, because the companies don't actually care about morals, they have to get regulated to care about it.
Is this sub just a bunch of angsty 15 year olds?
Mostly, yes
Yes and people who don’t want to pay for anything
that's a stupid thing to say when the quality of literally everything is so piss poor right now. we'll see how much money the world has to spend when gta 6 comes out.
If you're talking games, 2025 has been a bell weather year for new games and franchises. Are you just ignoring the millions upon millions who bought whole new consoles to play Mario Kart?
I used to like this sub because of the tutorials of new methods and stuff like that. Not sure when it became a collection of low effort, unfunny and stupid memes.
And dumbass 25 year olds "leftists" playing revolutionary.
Sharing pw costs them money. Buying WB will earn them money.
I'm not sure op can understand you, they didn't cover what a business is in school yet.
Letting someone use a 10-digit password is the equivalent of, like, 5 whole Warner Bros.
who tf uses netflix after 2010?
They can't afford to buy it, one report called it "Netflix having to look for coins in their sofa" but they're doing it anyway, because eliminating competition opens the door wider for more price increases. Cable subscriptions are up for the first time in 8 years, because the streamers were always going to put the squeeze on consumers once they thought they'd killed off the competition.
Because they use some trickery to purchase them like stock, debt or whatever.
It's the customer that generates a real form of tangible revenue, not those vague credit money
That's why they can afford it!!!!
Jokes on them I just pirate the movies and give out the files. 🖕🖕🖕🖕
I was hearing for years that netflix is losing money and always raising prices to reduce the losses, then they make this deal, wtf?
It's because they don't let us share passwords they can afford wb.
Business is business
I don't care about their movies to a degree but leave the games. Don't touch Batman or mortal Kombat... HOWEVER if they want to bring back injustice 👀👀👀
Injustice 3 FTW. i forget did injustice 2 have rollback
I mean if WB is going to be acquired by any streaming service, Netflix is the best one. Less time in theaters is a win for everyone, regardless if they pirate or not.
That being said, fuck these mega billion dollar corporation mergers.
They can’t even afford IT that’s the funniest part. Took out a loan worth an established country😂😂😂
They taking a loan out for it.. keep up.
live and let live
They can afford a movie studio BECAUSE we aren't allowed to share passwords.
We are losing money due to inflation and rising costs, why can't you understand the unfortunate situation we are in - Netflix
How do you think they are paying for WB?
No - they can't afford not to buy WB. Eat or be eaten.
To afford it they will be taking out 59,000,000,000 dollars in loans from differing banks.
Prices will be going up.
They can afford to buy WB Because they don't let us share passwords
How do you think they're paying for Warner Brothers?
Some call it customer service
They won't even let you use your own account outside of the home without making 7895 step authentication
Sailing the high seas is not only necessary, is now morally acceptable.
It's because they didn't allow to share password they bought WB 🙃
Netflix and Spotify the ultimate stingy apps
that's exactly how they can afford it
how do you think they got the cash in the first place?
The goal is always to squeeze. The squeeze is intensifying. Price hikes, restrictions on access.
My Plex server has wb content before Netflix lmao
Oh and they will absolutely jack up their prices after this.
Atleast they have kept it ad free
Welcome to capitalism. The same fat cats who boast about record profits, turn around and tell us that they can only ever INCREASE the prices of things, never decrease. Shrinkflation was happening before the tariffs and the only thing that forces corporations to back down is governmental involvement, but good luck with that.
*or keep the sub prices lower
think of the poor board members and share holders. They gotta feed their families bro
I can afford a vpn
why share passwod when we can share links brooooo
What's a Netfliks?
Plex or jellyfin with a 26tb harddrive and certain websites is all you need
Did you know that if you have an old iPhone, like 5 or 6, with Netflix on it you can bypass the no sharing passwords thing.
WHAT ??
Yeah, it’s just not update Enough. And it has to be an old one because I think you have to update Netflix to the latest version. Every time an update comes out.
Or you could just sail the 7 seas...Arr 🪝🏴☠️
I mean.... You do have point there!
I don't care about Netflix anymore
*because they don't let us share passwords.
Its so stupid lol
Not even with family. I was up to paying $23/month before they started blocking my parents!
Just use sites works well lmao
Same ish, different story
So you can afford that [Enter Product You Did Not Need] but can't afford to give a dollar to the beggar.
I've been a Netflix subscriber since the beginning, but if this raises the subscription price, I'll recruit myself onto a pirate ship. Ahoy!
You've paid through like 12 price increases at this point, but this is the one that ends it all? Okay.
it's actually mentally insane how netflix buying warner bros and ending the cinema as we know it is somehow the better option in this scenario
That is why they can buy it
I think they got the wording wrong, Netflix can afford to buy WB because they won’t let us share passwords.
Couldn't even finish The O A
Being a pirate or even anticorpo isn't an excuse to be stupid. Buying assets and wringing more revenue from customers is not contradictory in any way. Companies don't exist to break even, not even in socialist or communist countries. Cracking down on password sharing sucks, but it is in no way Netflix claiming they are low on money.
Low effort karma bait.
No no they can afford that becouse they doesn't let us share passwords
Does Pirate Bay require a password now?
Yes exactly. Not sure what's hard about this to understand
It's a public company, it's all about growth or the stock price collapses. Do y'all really not know that or is this just rage bait?
Everyone knows this but the level of greed is what ticks people off i think. Personally i think bitching about it changes nothing, vote with your wallet. Thats the only voice that matters today
They weren't paying for Netflix before anyway, so it's a net positive for Netflix....
Growth this
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Whaaaa, I can't have Netflix for free. That's you. That's what you're saying. Netflix also still runs full production houses, so I'm not sure what the creative comment is about.
Netflix at the beginning was operating at a loss. But investors were promised that if they paid to run this apparently cheap service , people would be hooked.
It worked , but for how long ?
Netflix has been a lie day 1, and every day they will find new ways to conclude the strategy of hooking people with their subscription to keep them in and become profitable by being shittier and shittier to go from being a loss to printing money on the back of people that don't get what they pay for.
You should have known this before they purchased anything - that works against you more than it seems lol
Funny, you mean we could have paid for all homeless to have homes, a better education system and no taxes but we choose to send 300billion to israhell?
Yeh, on brand as can be
Netflix has always been about greed, since day one.
It's not like Netflix is going to the bank and wiring the money to WB. It's not like a traditional liquid transaction. Multiple banks are providing loans against the companies stock to do the acquisition... So no Netflix doesn't have the money. They're getting a loan.
when i dont have the money i eat rice and beans.
netflix should go eat rice and beans.
Not the same thing. It's apples and oranges here or dare I say "beans and rice" 😂😂😂
In this analogy, Netflix is taking out an equity loan on their house, but you probably don't have one of those, either.
ive got rice and beans.
netflix shoud eat rice and beans.
How do you think they can afford to buy WB now.
That’s how they afford it
Its not about afford. Its about maximizing profits.
Didn’t they take the biggest loans in history for this?