Massgrave is like tier 1 or 0 piracy. If you are a pirate on Windows and don't have an "activated" (or actually activated idc) copy of Windows then it's purely on you.
Oh man I haven't thought about foobar in years. I did love it back in the day, and I'm sure it's still awesome. I'd spend countless hours tinkering with the settings to get everything just the way I wanted it.
'At this point it's just easier and more convenient for me to have my collection in Plex with the rest of my media, but that does bring back memories.
It's been at least fifteen years since I messed with foobar, I can't imagine trying to mess with it at this point. I'll just stick with Plex Amp for listening to my music, guess that's what getting old does to me; but it does make me happy to know Foobar is still being developed.
I honestly don't remember much about the setup and how things worked, but I do remember tweaking the UI all the time to get things to look just the way I wanted. Probably spent way too much time in general on my music collection.
There is an open source clone of Foobar in the works. It is called Fooyin. Currently it is on Linux only, but the creator does have plans for a windows release at some point.
Also if you have Linux, there is an open source clone of Foobar in the works. It is called Fooyin. Highly recommend that for a Foobar like experience on Windows.
Ehh, music piracy has gone down a lot since Napster and line wire thanks to Spotify and other music services. As gaben said"its a service issue" I'm able to pay 12 a month for all the music and download them for offline use and a crap load of music. I still understand why people pirate music cause not everyone can afford 12 a month but music piracy is low for a reason.
If i think of spotify iam always amazed that you have access to the ("almost" but for me practically ) complete library of any artists instantly for a reasonable cost.
Yes if you would take those years of subscription and break them down, with that money you could have a sizeable library of physical copies wich you actually own. I get it. But the convenience of spotify is worth more for me right now especially compared to movie/tv industry yes.
Having said that i miss the times where i would go after every new gear (i love physical gear) walkman, discman, mini disc and then mp3 players with physical cartridges and cds collecting and creating/pirating my mixtapes of radio or trying to hunt down a specific album on napster or other sites. I mean that's a fun hobby i guess.
That's the problem. The music industry didn't get it right.
Music streaming is a crisis in itself. The music industry managed to get around it because they have live performances and other stuff that are basically still irreplaceable, which is where they can still make money
The movie industry on the other hand, don't have such a thing, when it's replaced by streaming.
Google play and Youtube have provided the middle ground since the obsolescence of DVDs, but people often miss that
Don't forget they also pay artists practically nothing. Streaming is an easy one-stop solution for the customer, but the musicians are getting screwed over.
Rich musicians are less rich than they could've been, but for the unknown, just starting, musicians, music streaming is an opportunity of finding an audience, back in the day when you had to sign to a label most musicians were never chosen by these companies and so never had a career.
I'm not a musician myself but I'm surrounded by creative individuals who have put their music on Spotify and there's no way they would have reached an audience if it wasn't for music streaming, specially in my country.
Yeah, they can now screw the artists, throw you a ban hammer in 10 platforms for using a 5 seconds sample and sue you to oblivion for running a clandestine radio, but no one bats an eye because we can listen almost any famous discography on demand 24/7 for free in multiple platforms.
I hate the model, but it works. I remember watching a short video essay saying that music sharing caused the death of physical media and any semblance of "owning" the media we buy access to (basically, Napster caused the death of owning"). Of course I think it's a reductive and purposefully sensationalist take to demonise digital file sharing, but I think I can grant that it indirectly contributed to the domino effect. Physical media is great for archival purposes and opens a legal loop to "own" media (you don't own the media, but own the wrapper), but it was impractical as the main way to consume. Most people didn't care about the owning part of piracy, they just wanted to listen the last hot new single on their MP3 player while commuting.
The problem with that from a business standpoint is that music has only gotten cheaper to produce whereas film and TV have gone on the opposite direction.
except its horrible for the artists and unless you’re taylor swift you earn next to nothing compared to what you would earn if people just bought your music directly
Main thing is music is that there is not "oh I want to listen to metallica, so I go on spotify, but ACDC is only on apple music. Some Queen albums are on prime music, but other ones are on Tidal. And also recently Gorillaz signed exclusivity deal with Deezer. They have like 3 artists on that app, but if you want to listen to their music you have to use it".
You just pay for spotify and listen to everything that you want. And if you don't like spotify for some reason, you can listen on other platform that also has the same music
Netflix, Disney plus, Amazon, HBO, and a lot of local channels have vod so...
For example on Spain, Movistar plus, you have all the channels with VOD. Some movies/series you can watch only a few weeks after emissions, but other are available like forever. And RTVE also has its proper platform (with a big ass library with all the content from the firsts emissions in the 50's when they were the only option) you can access through a modern smart tv, same with Atresmedia, Mediaset, etc...
His point is with music, no matter what service you pick you get everything. With movies/tv, it’s split up so you have to have dozens of services and still only have a fraction of what’s out there available
That's a good point, but for example with Disney plus you have also Fox and now Netflix bought Warner with HBO, so is close. Boy same, but almost... And with Movistar plus you can purchase these subscriptions so you only pay one time and you have the other channels (Nikolodeon, cartoon network, Paramount, etc). Again, not the same (you can't do it free with adds like Spotify), but close...
Nah, I agree with the other commenter more. I would pay $20/mo for Netflix no problem if it had EVERYTHIHG. Prices have simply gone up over the years. The cost isn't the problem, it's the shrinking library. It USED to have everything. Now, I'd rather use Jellyfin. I want everything on one service, that's priority #1
If Spotify starts raising prices every month- I agree- I will reconsider piracy as a primary means of consuming music- but I don't see Spotify losing half their music library or whatever anytime soon (needing multiple streaming services for music sounds like hell)
A quick search says "Spotify downloads are stored in encrypted files within your AppData folder on Windows or Library folder on Mac". Is there an easy way to decrypt them? If not, then you're tied into Spotify. Pirating means no chains.
Well yeah, the same reason why steam has their own drm, that's why you can't just copy the files and send them to your friends, just like Spotify has their own drm
You can disable steamdrm in like 4 seconds using goldberg emu
And its not even mandatory, plenty of games that dont have any drm on steam
I send my games to my friends and ask them to send me games ALL THE TIME lmao
We basically dont pirate from outside sources anymore, we just buy, share, maybe refund and play the shared version, and maybe patch it with an actually safe onlinefix if it has online
You don't really need to do that just get Telegram and use bots like Deezermusicbot and give the link to the bot and you can download them from telegram as files
You own nothing though. You’re renting the music.
Once you stop paying you have nothing to show for the hundreds you spent over the years. Nice that you enjoy it but the only way I’d pay monthly for any music streaming service is if I could download offline and keep the files. Seeing as no company would ever do that. It’s a pirates life for me.
That was all true, but now Spotify is trying so hard to replace actual musicians with AI bullshit so they can profit even more, and you can no longer use recommendation features because you now have to google every fucking artist to see if it's AI and it's not worth all the extra work.
They're really trying their hardest to get me to cancel and go back to music piracy, because I'm not paying for AI junk. I want to hear actual human creativity and nothing else.
except that spotify doesn't offer DRM-free music and that it doesn't pay their artists very much, yeah
I prefer Tidal or Qobuz (or Bandcamp), which are a bit more pricey but pay the artists like 5x and let you download entire albums free of DRM.
Spotify is a service. You don't buy music, you buy the right to listen to it anywhere, and maybe download it just to listen to it, not to "own" it. You can't compare it to downloading music locally, and that yes, you "own" the music.
You can buy music and download it locally. You can buy the service to stream music but not own it.
This should be compared to some piracy website where you stream music for free too. It should not be compared to people downloading music for free. They are different things aarrgh.
To me Spotify is worth it. It's such a pain to pirate music and the whole exploration for new music to listen to. The cost of it is worth it to me as it makes it so much easier. Also saves me the storage for other things I rather download.
I do use music streaming service everyday for reasons like music discovery. but I don't understand why people rely on it like not having their own digital files. It can disappear any time. It's not not good idea. I've noticed that songs like Voodoo People (Chemical brothers Remix) and Caprice Coleman entrance theme disappeared from streaming. It's been a while but It still didn't come back.
I'm finding new music because of random shuffles after I've finished playing an album, or the similar artists list when you scroll down to the bottom, or user made playlists.
If there's another way to be introduced to new music that isn't time intensive I'm open to it. Right now, for me it's a service that's worth it at this point in time. They are saving me time and effort. At some point the money won't be worth it anymore and something else will come along, but for now they know how to feed me music that can expand my library.
I used to pay for spotify, found a lot of good bands on there, but then I found I was listening to it less and less because I had started using audible, so I dont listen to music anymore. So there was never much point paying for a service I wasnt using.
Spotify actually offers me a good algorithm which helps me be up to date with newer releases but also discover older/similar songs based on what i listen to.
I don't know any place that is as convenient or better for this.
Like i still download flacs and what not as they are many times higher quality than Spotify offers, but if i wanna listen to music at the office or in my car, spotify is where all the music is at with just 1 login instead of having to transfer over everything from my pc and spending hours to find stuff to put on my drive.
Tbf Spotify is the only subscription I’m paying, it just works, has almost everything, and downloading stuff is a simple tap. To each their own, but in my honest opinion Spotify is worth it.
Not really. I have 1 tb of music. I can stream it on Plexamp for free. I also have the files to drag on my old iPod (modded to fit 512gb) and my phone.
Way better than renting music from Spotify for about 150 bucks a year.
That’s fine, but for a lot of people it would take a lot of work, money, confusion, and energy to set all that up just for music. Acting like a $12 per month plan where you basically get all the music you could ever want, with offline listening, with in-depth recommendations, easily listening to the same playlists between devices, etc. is somehow a “scam” (like this post is implying) is incredibly stupid.
I'd argue that it's not a matter of "wondering" it's this constant teeter-totter of corporations wanting more money because that's how society operates, people being upset about rising costs and the only solution ever considered is "who to vote for" and besides that the "moral problem". Piracy bad, pay the monies, some of us aren't willing to pay the monies and hence piracy exists, those willing to share do just that.
I use Musicolet to listen to my music offline on my phone, it's the only one I've found that DOESN'T have ads (VLC on Mobile wants to manage ALL of my folders and files while Musicolet lets you choose the folder(s) to use).
Love the mention of 200% volume increase. I figured I was the only person in the world who went into advanced settings and did 200% lol. Makes me hate normal volume caps everywhere else
Edit - I also pay for Spotify for the record. Worth it, at least for now
I can’t tell if my hearing is declining or if playback volumes are just lower these days but for movies 100% is way too low for me. Music I’m ok most of the time
I mean everything you said about spotify is only the free version. If you're gonna compare piracy to a product you should at least compare it to the paid version. Also with the paid version you get to discover new music easily, download it instantly, and not have to set anything up at all. For some people who just wanna listen to their music, that is worth the price. Like gaben says, piracy is always a service problem. People will be willing to pay for spotify because it genuinely makes consuming music easier. In not defending spotify, but they do offer a very solid service to the consumer.
the diffrence is convenience of streaming songs vs having them downloaded is night and day. spotify/any music streaming service is one of the only subscriptions i consider worth the money.
Spotify is acutally a great streaming service imo. I share a family account and I pay 5€ a month and can listen to everything without ads and you can Download stuff and listen to it offline.
I stopped pirating music the same day I started using Spotify. One add every few songs?? No problem, just muted it and continue with my life.
For VLC first you need to download the music and always will be the same songs random or not, but until you put in new songs will not change...
With Spotify and the weekly discovery, or/and the song's radios, you will have new music every day and this is just like magic. You like one song?? Just add it to your Liked playlist. Don't like one song?? Just delete it from the list and/or the entire library from the same artist...
The only problem is when you want to play THAT song and only that song, you need to listen to some other songs from a random playlist unless you have premium... The same happens if you want to play an entire album, it reproduces at random too...
I pay for spotify and also rip it into mp3's because my old ass car doesn't have modern apple/android and can't be bothered setting up BT connection. USB stick + shuffle it is.
People paying or even using mods are simply procrastinating. Those platforms will go bankrupt. Not in 10 years. Sooner than that.
They keep increasing their price (10 years with 15% increase per year is 400% increase overall) while claiming they expect growth. They are completely out of touch with reality, as most of the Western economy, it's pure fluff.
So one day, servers will be closed without notice, and all those users will end up with NOTHING. Then good luck to find music...
Download while you can. Once you are satisfied with your local library, then you can use cloud service if you want.
I mean I can still get spotify for free on desktop with a certain github link. On android is where these fuckin cunts made it ridiculously hard to pirate.
Yea shit service cause they dont have free music and pay out of their own ass to run the whole service. Even though I have pirated in my life making these kind of comparisons is one of the most retarded things I have ever seen
Spotify is just a service that's worth it, it's not overly expensive, it just works and it's much more convenient than downloading hundreds of songs in my opinion, downloading it as simple as just pressing one button and even if you don't download anything and it also has a nice little feature of having an offline playlist cache whenever you go offline on mobile
My spotify install just stopped working one day, keeps sending the message "unable to retrieve track" so after a fuckton of troubleshooting, just uninstalled the thing and used firefox. A damn shame.
I would absolutely still pirate music if it was easier, you know, like limewire was. Spotify just gives me so much ease of use, and discovery of new songs, it's worth it to me.
And music streaming isn’t even close to the worst of this. At least with one subscription tier, you eliminate ads, and have access to pretty much everything no matter which streaming service you use. Sports and movies on the other hand…
Pirated streaming services are a thing too yk? And I'm pretty sure you can download music within the apps which is way more convenient than having a folder with hundreds of mp3 files. But somehow people hate hearing this and will always glorify being a digital gatherer.
Music piracy is definitely down. I've noticed it's becoming harder and harder to find more niche albums, which is really annoying when you can't even buy them in your region Recording off Spotify with Audition is such an inelegant solution!
Any recommendations to replace my Spotify on my iPhone? I wanna cancel my subscription and save money, but would like offline and no ads when online 🤷♂️
currently using audacious since I prefer it more, but I'm still paying for premium for my phone, is there anyway to somehow get the benefits of premium on mobile without paying for it?
You can custom spotify and Spicetify offers extensions to disable ads and swap song endlessly . It's not perfect but a good solution . But piracy however , will never be dethroned .
i have spotify duo with my dad and its actually a very good option. I dont think pirating music is worth it anymore. Now spotify has lossless plus the download feature is good.
You can be against paying any subscriptions or against paying for content in general but like 11€ to access pretty much every song ever made is worth it to me.
he thought that windows activation would go unnoticed
Piracy fail...
The pirate hasn't sailed the sea far enough to come across the Massgrave island
but now with the help of other fellow pirates i was able to find the path to this island
Hope you got it in time since Microsoft is trying to patch that method of activation
Massgrave doesn't use KMS38 anymore, and has never recommended it. Clickbaity articles have led to people thinking this
Oh I didn’t know. That’s good news then
It's a sub where people including me are truly happy to get proved wrong, what a community. Cheers.
👍 I also thought it was patched, articles like "Microsoft blocks Windows 11 activation hack permanently" don't help
Massgrave is like tier 1 or 0 piracy. If you are a pirate on Windows and don't have an "activated" (or actually activated idc) copy of Windows then it's purely on you.
I have a windows server I can copy. But I use unactivated windows for my VMs
May his bounties always be full and may his cup always has the most delicious drinks. 🍻 To Mass Grave
it's like his in some king off... massgrave
just use foobar
MusicBee if you want something a bit more modern.
foobar is timeless :)
Foobar is great!
Great icon.
Oh man I haven't thought about foobar in years. I did love it back in the day, and I'm sure it's still awesome. I'd spend countless hours tinkering with the settings to get everything just the way I wanted it.
'At this point it's just easier and more convenient for me to have my collection in Plex with the rest of my media, but that does bring back memories.
Foobar when on m'y pc.
PlexAmp while driving.
i use plex and foobar. I just like to play music locally on my pc. foobar is still awesome :)
It's been at least fifteen years since I messed with foobar, I can't imagine trying to mess with it at this point. I'll just stick with Plex Amp for listening to my music, guess that's what getting old does to me; but it does make me happy to know Foobar is still being developed.
idk how it was back then but you just drag and drop your folder/s of music into the UI and dats it.
I honestly don't remember much about the setup and how things worked, but I do remember tweaking the UI all the time to get things to look just the way I wanted. Probably spent way too much time in general on my music collection.
I use foobar personally. Sadly not open source or anything like that but it works fine.
There is an open source clone of Foobar in the works. It is called Fooyin. Currently it is on Linux only, but the creator does have plans for a windows release at some point.
ooh i might have to check this out, planning to switch to linux anyways
I use Nora, I think it has a better UI
Fooyin if you are using Linux
I love the 2000s aeathetic
Also if you have Linux, there is an open source clone of Foobar in the works. It is called Fooyin. Highly recommend that for a Foobar like experience on Windows.
Ehh, music piracy has gone down a lot since Napster and line wire thanks to Spotify and other music services. As gaben said"its a service issue" I'm able to pay 12 a month for all the music and download them for offline use and a crap load of music. I still understand why people pirate music cause not everyone can afford 12 a month but music piracy is low for a reason.
Movies is a whole other conversation
Never thought I’d hear myself say this, but the music industry got it mostly right. Huge reserve of content for a reasonable cost.
During the napster times, I never would have thought that to be true or could be true.
Movie/TV industry needs to copy their model.
I agree.
If i think of spotify iam always amazed that you have access to the ("almost" but for me practically ) complete library of any artists instantly for a reasonable cost.
Yes if you would take those years of subscription and break them down, with that money you could have a sizeable library of physical copies wich you actually own. I get it. But the convenience of spotify is worth more for me right now especially compared to movie/tv industry yes.
Having said that i miss the times where i would go after every new gear (i love physical gear) walkman, discman, mini disc and then mp3 players with physical cartridges and cds collecting and creating/pirating my mixtapes of radio or trying to hunt down a specific album on napster or other sites. I mean that's a fun hobby i guess.
That's the problem. The music industry didn't get it right.
Music streaming is a crisis in itself. The music industry managed to get around it because they have live performances and other stuff that are basically still irreplaceable, which is where they can still make money
The movie industry on the other hand, don't have such a thing, when it's replaced by streaming.
Google play and Youtube have provided the middle ground since the obsolescence of DVDs, but people often miss that
Don't forget they also pay artists practically nothing. Streaming is an easy one-stop solution for the customer, but the musicians are getting screwed over.
Rich musicians are less rich than they could've been, but for the unknown, just starting, musicians, music streaming is an opportunity of finding an audience, back in the day when you had to sign to a label most musicians were never chosen by these companies and so never had a career.
I'm not a musician myself but I'm surrounded by creative individuals who have put their music on Spotify and there's no way they would have reached an audience if it wasn't for music streaming, specially in my country.
Yeah, they can now screw the artists, throw you a ban hammer in 10 platforms for using a 5 seconds sample and sue you to oblivion for running a clandestine radio, but no one bats an eye because we can listen almost any famous discography on demand 24/7 for free in multiple platforms.
I hate the model, but it works. I remember watching a short video essay saying that music sharing caused the death of physical media and any semblance of "owning" the media we buy access to (basically, Napster caused the death of owning"). Of course I think it's a reductive and purposefully sensationalist take to demonise digital file sharing, but I think I can grant that it indirectly contributed to the domino effect. Physical media is great for archival purposes and opens a legal loop to "own" media (you don't own the media, but own the wrapper), but it was impractical as the main way to consume. Most people didn't care about the owning part of piracy, they just wanted to listen the last hot new single on their MP3 player while commuting.
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6 sentences in two paragraphs is a wall of text now?
The problem with that from a business standpoint is that music has only gotten cheaper to produce whereas film and TV have gone on the opposite direction.
movie/tv industry needs more profits to justify the production costs. its harder in that area unfortunately.
except its horrible for the artists and unless you’re taylor swift you earn next to nothing compared to what you would earn if people just bought your music directly
Main thing is music is that there is not "oh I want to listen to metallica, so I go on spotify, but ACDC is only on apple music. Some Queen albums are on prime music, but other ones are on Tidal. And also recently Gorillaz signed exclusivity deal with Deezer. They have like 3 artists on that app, but if you want to listen to their music you have to use it".
You just pay for spotify and listen to everything that you want. And if you don't like spotify for some reason, you can listen on other platform that also has the same music
They can't, it's a completely different business model that can't be ported over to Movies/TV industry.
Netflix, Disney plus, Amazon, HBO, and a lot of local channels have vod so...
For example on Spain, Movistar plus, you have all the channels with VOD. Some movies/series you can watch only a few weeks after emissions, but other are available like forever. And RTVE also has its proper platform (with a big ass library with all the content from the firsts emissions in the 50's when they were the only option) you can access through a modern smart tv, same with Atresmedia, Mediaset, etc...
His point is with music, no matter what service you pick you get everything. With movies/tv, it’s split up so you have to have dozens of services and still only have a fraction of what’s out there available
That's a good point, but for example with Disney plus you have also Fox and now Netflix bought Warner with HBO, so is close. Boy same, but almost... And with Movistar plus you can purchase these subscriptions so you only pay one time and you have the other channels (Nikolodeon, cartoon network, Paramount, etc). Again, not the same (you can't do it free with adds like Spotify), but close...
Remember, this is how Netflix started then they got greedy and started raising prices every month.
Spotify is following Netflix's footsteps.
Just wait until music studios start their own streaming service instead, and Spotify loses 70% of the library.
That's what happened to Netflix.
Nah, I agree with the other commenter more. I would pay $20/mo for Netflix no problem if it had EVERYTHIHG. Prices have simply gone up over the years. The cost isn't the problem, it's the shrinking library. It USED to have everything. Now, I'd rather use Jellyfin. I want everything on one service, that's priority #1
If Spotify starts raising prices every month- I agree- I will reconsider piracy as a primary means of consuming music- but I don't see Spotify losing half their music library or whatever anytime soon (needing multiple streaming services for music sounds like hell)
A quick search says "Spotify downloads are stored in encrypted files within your AppData folder on Windows or Library folder on Mac". Is there an easy way to decrypt them? If not, then you're tied into Spotify. Pirating means no chains.
Well yeah, the same reason why steam has their own drm, that's why you can't just copy the files and send them to your friends, just like Spotify has their own drm
You can disable steamdrm in like 4 seconds using goldberg emu
And its not even mandatory, plenty of games that dont have any drm on steam
I send my games to my friends and ask them to send me games ALL THE TIME lmao
We basically dont pirate from outside sources anymore, we just buy, share, maybe refund and play the shared version, and maybe patch it with an actually safe onlinefix if it has online
You don't really need to do that just get Telegram and use bots like Deezermusicbot and give the link to the bot and you can download them from telegram as files
You own nothing though. You’re renting the music. Once you stop paying you have nothing to show for the hundreds you spent over the years. Nice that you enjoy it but the only way I’d pay monthly for any music streaming service is if I could download offline and keep the files. Seeing as no company would ever do that. It’s a pirates life for me.
You can do that exact same thing without giving $12 to people who had fuck all to do with creating the music.
He's wrong though, or at least ambiguous. It's not "a service issue", it's a money issue. It's always about the money, always.
Money is part of the service issue; you can have all the music in the world, but if it isn't an affordable price, then the service is too expensive.
That was all true, but now Spotify is trying so hard to replace actual musicians with AI bullshit so they can profit even more, and you can no longer use recommendation features because you now have to google every fucking artist to see if it's AI and it's not worth all the extra work.
They're really trying their hardest to get me to cancel and go back to music piracy, because I'm not paying for AI junk. I want to hear actual human creativity and nothing else.
except that spotify doesn't offer DRM-free music and that it doesn't pay their artists very much, yeah
I prefer Tidal or Qobuz (or Bandcamp), which are a bit more pricey but pay the artists like 5x and let you download entire albums free of DRM.
One is music streaming platform the other is just a music player
This annoys me so much.
Spotify is a service. You don't buy music, you buy the right to listen to it anywhere, and maybe download it just to listen to it, not to "own" it. You can't compare it to downloading music locally, and that yes, you "own" the music.
You can buy music and download it locally. You can buy the service to stream music but not own it.
This should be compared to some piracy website where you stream music for free too. It should not be compared to people downloading music for free. They are different things aarrgh.
You don’t buy anything. You rent the right to listen anywhere.
OP had the right idea but he’s using the wrong apps. Plexamp is the way to go if you want a Spotify experience.
My dude, you failed as a pirate. Vlc for music, Spotify in desktop with ads, windows not activated?
Spotify can't touch modeed version of windows, L for android 😭
I just use SpotX for Spotify which removes all the ads and give me the premium options for free on the desktop app.
Bros piracy skills are in the 90s.😂
Yeah. I agree with his take but he could definitely use an upgrade 😆
To me Spotify is worth it. It's such a pain to pirate music and the whole exploration for new music to listen to. The cost of it is worth it to me as it makes it so much easier. Also saves me the storage for other things I rather download.
I do use music streaming service everyday for reasons like music discovery. but I don't understand why people rely on it like not having their own digital files. It can disappear any time. It's not not good idea. I've noticed that songs like Voodoo People (Chemical brothers Remix) and Caprice Coleman entrance theme disappeared from streaming. It's been a while but It still didn't come back.
Same, I do keep a local library of FLAC files of my favorite albums, but hunting for a single song I like from an album is a pita
This is how I feel.
I'm finding new music because of random shuffles after I've finished playing an album, or the similar artists list when you scroll down to the bottom, or user made playlists.
If there's another way to be introduced to new music that isn't time intensive I'm open to it. Right now, for me it's a service that's worth it at this point in time. They are saving me time and effort. At some point the money won't be worth it anymore and something else will come along, but for now they know how to feed me music that can expand my library.
I used to pay for spotify, found a lot of good bands on there, but then I found I was listening to it less and less because I had started using audible, so I dont listen to music anymore. So there was never much point paying for a service I wasnt using.
Soulseek with a Navidrome server is w
This is the way
FLAC is unmatched for all my audiophiles and why a lot of these people pirate.
The difference between FLAC and mp3 cannot be heard by a good 99.9% of people.
Did you make this image your wallpaper, screenshot it, and post it here? what
Spotify actually offers me a good algorithm which helps me be up to date with newer releases but also discover older/similar songs based on what i listen to.
I don't know any place that is as convenient or better for this.
Like i still download flacs and what not as they are many times higher quality than Spotify offers, but if i wanna listen to music at the office or in my car, spotify is where all the music is at with just 1 login instead of having to transfer over everything from my pc and spending hours to find stuff to put on my drive.
‘Volume increase’ aka not 320kbps compressed to shit, streaming, and locally played back with perfect original quality instead
Tbh you shouldn't use the 200 percent increase. It's a boost and your sound starts clipping a little.
Tbf Spotify is the only subscription I’m paying, it just works, has almost everything, and downloading stuff is a simple tap. To each their own, but in my honest opinion Spotify is worth it.
This is a dogshit take ngl.
Not really. I have 1 tb of music. I can stream it on Plexamp for free. I also have the files to drag on my old iPod (modded to fit 512gb) and my phone.
Way better than renting music from Spotify for about 150 bucks a year.
That’s fine, but for a lot of people it would take a lot of work, money, confusion, and energy to set all that up just for music. Acting like a $12 per month plan where you basically get all the music you could ever want, with offline listening, with in-depth recommendations, easily listening to the same playlists between devices, etc. is somehow a “scam” (like this post is implying) is incredibly stupid.
Light mode 🚨🚨🚨🚨
AIMP > VLC
in term of audio IMO
I mean Spotify is full of AI slop and doesnt even offer flac for everything. Why pay for something like that.
Apple music is worth it but at the end of the day having local files is way better for me
eww VLC as a music player
200% volume is only for real chads
Spotify is like Steam. Its not the price, but the convenience.
You lost me at 200% volume increase. Free distortion/compression!
I'd argue that it's not a matter of "wondering" it's this constant teeter-totter of corporations wanting more money because that's how society operates, people being upset about rising costs and the only solution ever considered is "who to vote for" and besides that the "moral problem". Piracy bad, pay the monies, some of us aren't willing to pay the monies and hence piracy exists, those willing to share do just that.
I download songs in Spotify to play offline, so... >_>
Sorry, is it essential to use a PC to "download from that place"?...
use patched revanced yt music if you want to compare something free to a service like spotify
I use Musicolet to listen to my music offline on my phone, it's the only one I've found that DOESN'T have ads (VLC on Mobile wants to manage ALL of my folders and files while Musicolet lets you choose the folder(s) to use).
Their algorithm is the reason I keep paying.
Love the mention of 200% volume increase. I figured I was the only person in the world who went into advanced settings and did 200% lol. Makes me hate normal volume caps everywhere else
Edit - I also pay for Spotify for the record. Worth it, at least for now
I use the volume booster addon on Vencord to upgrade the cap to 400% lol
Crazy lol
I can’t tell if my hearing is declining or if playback volumes are just lower these days but for movies 100% is way too low for me. Music I’m ok most of the time
PlexAmp.
MY MAN!!!
I mean everything you said about spotify is only the free version. If you're gonna compare piracy to a product you should at least compare it to the paid version. Also with the paid version you get to discover new music easily, download it instantly, and not have to set anything up at all. For some people who just wanna listen to their music, that is worth the price. Like gaben says, piracy is always a service problem. People will be willing to pay for spotify because it genuinely makes consuming music easier. In not defending spotify, but they do offer a very solid service to the consumer.
You're acting like VLC comes with music, still need to add music manually. also nice activated windows you got there. Don't know what MAS is noob?
Foobar 2000 for music, VLC for Video
200% shit I don’t want to be deaf. Just get some good quality mp3s
No, “they” aren’t ..
Create a google opinions rewards use those money to buy spotify
the diffrence is convenience of streaming songs vs having them downloaded is night and day. spotify/any music streaming service is one of the only subscriptions i consider worth the money.
Surprisingly, music streaming is the only subscription I have.
Spotify is acutally a great streaming service imo. I share a family account and I pay 5€ a month and can listen to everything without ads and you can Download stuff and listen to it offline.
Movie streaming has a crisis, audio not yet.
I stopped pirating music the same day I started using Spotify. One add every few songs?? No problem, just muted it and continue with my life.
For VLC first you need to download the music and always will be the same songs random or not, but until you put in new songs will not change...
With Spotify and the weekly discovery, or/and the song's radios, you will have new music every day and this is just like magic. You like one song?? Just add it to your Liked playlist. Don't like one song?? Just delete it from the list and/or the entire library from the same artist...
The only problem is when you want to play THAT song and only that song, you need to listen to some other songs from a random playlist unless you have premium... The same happens if you want to play an entire album, it reproduces at random too...
I pay for spotify and also rip it into mp3's because my old ass car doesn't have modern apple/android and can't be bothered setting up BT connection. USB stick + shuffle it is.
My main problem with VLC is the huge startup lag spikes....I've tried clearing my cache and it helps for like a day or two
People paying or even using mods are simply procrastinating. Those platforms will go bankrupt. Not in 10 years. Sooner than that.
They keep increasing their price (10 years with 15% increase per year is 400% increase overall) while claiming they expect growth. They are completely out of touch with reality, as most of the Western economy, it's pure fluff.
So one day, servers will be closed without notice, and all those users will end up with NOTHING. Then good luck to find music...
Download while you can. Once you are satisfied with your local library, then you can use cloud service if you want.
and VLC Media player is French
Plus, for windows : https://github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts
Are you really complaining about Spotify out of all things?
I mean I can still get spotify for free on desktop with a certain github link. On android is where these fuckin cunts made it ridiculously hard to pirate.
Yea shit service cause they dont have free music and pay out of their own ass to run the whole service. Even though I have pirated in my life making these kind of comparisons is one of the most retarded things I have ever seen
The shuffle button is shit on all of the apps like Spotify also.
Foobar or Aimp, VLC randomly have a 1 second gap.
MPV is great too, better on system resources
Windows media player is so slow and laggy I started using Foobar2000 and it's so much better and faster.
Winamp > Foobar2000 (not really, it's all subjective but it's what I know)
Both >> VLC for audio
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Spicetify
Foobar gang raise up
I’d love to not have ads every 5 minutes in Spotify how can I start this?
Spotify is just a service that's worth it, it's not overly expensive, it just works and it's much more convenient than downloading hundreds of songs in my opinion, downloading it as simple as just pressing one button and even if you don't download anything and it also has a nice little feature of having an offline playlist cache whenever you go offline on mobile
When offline mode doesnt work when you dont have service Something is not right
But also, it use to work fine until they added lossless , now Spotify is dumb,
Hack the planet
My spotify install just stopped working one day, keeps sending the message "unable to retrieve track" so after a fuckton of troubleshooting, just uninstalled the thing and used firefox. A damn shame.
laughs in meterolist
People pirate because VLC exists? Nah, people pirate because they like free stuff.
I would absolutely still pirate music if it was easier, you know, like limewire was. Spotify just gives me so much ease of use, and discovery of new songs, it's worth it to me.
Seriously dude, THE TWILIGHT SAGA SOUNDTRACK made me a pirate!
And music streaming isn’t even close to the worst of this. At least with one subscription tier, you eliminate ads, and have access to pretty much everything no matter which streaming service you use. Sports and movies on the other hand…
just use spotify in your browser with adblock = free premium
Low bitrate. 👎
That's why I always download from Lucida or music binimum. Soulseek comes in as a last resort when I can't find what I'm looking for.
Yes!! It blows my mind that so many pirates still have their mouths placed firmly on Spotify’s teat.
You’re downloading movies and tv shows for free and somehow you can’t wrap your mind around doing the same for music 😆
I use playback and YouTube Music. Gives me pretty much the only premium experience I need (music while phone is off)
another pro is that you can listen to rare tracks that aren't on streaming
Try Potplayer instead of VLC
Counter Argument: mp3 player
use spicetify. also, keep download your playlist to listen offline. thats how i do it.
why vlc when aimp exists (for music)
GATMAN!!!
yeah...music is one of those things that isn't really pirated on a large scale.
Spotify is top tier
Pirated streaming services are a thing too yk? And I'm pretty sure you can download music within the apps which is way more convenient than having a folder with hundreds of mp3 files. But somehow people hate hearing this and will always glorify being a digital gatherer.
We use winamp over here
Plexamp is the way to go
and this doesnt even mention the heap of bugs that reside within spotify's desktop player. currently downloading my whole library. argg
I just have everything self-hosted on Jellyfin
Music piracy is definitely down. I've noticed it's becoming harder and harder to find more niche albums, which is really annoying when you can't even buy them in your region Recording off Spotify with Audition is such an inelegant solution!
That 200% volume increase lmao
Any recommendations to replace my Spotify on my iPhone? I wanna cancel my subscription and save money, but would like offline and no ads when online 🤷♂️
currently using audacious since I prefer it more, but I'm still paying for premium for my phone, is there anyway to somehow get the benefits of premium on mobile without paying for it?
Spicetify
I use spotc++ ipa
Heck yeah bruv!
L take
I'm happy to pay for convenience. And spotify is very convenient. Also, using volume over 100% in vlc absolutely destroys quality
This comparison is completely retarded sorry... it's like comparing apples and bananas.
I like how vlc's ui still looks the same as it did 15 years ago.
For real but Spicetify is THE mod for spotify .
You can custom spotify and Spicetify offers extensions to disable ads and swap song endlessly . It's not perfect but a good solution . But piracy however , will never be dethroned .
Where do you download mp3s?
i look it up on youtube then copy paste the link on notube.lol
it also works with MP4s
Is it still necessary to advertise this?
How did you get ui for vlc media player?
i have spotify duo with my dad and its actually a very good option. I dont think pirating music is worth it anymore. Now spotify has lossless plus the download feature is good.
also wrapped is cool
I dont understand the point. Spotify is a business. You expect them to just give you free music because???
Tbf spotify works offline, you can just download playlists as much as you want and they are always available offline
Is there a [easy] way to use VLC to stream free music?
i'm still using winamp, but same difference
This is the worst comparas ion I've ever seen
AIMP for the win lol
I use free spotify in firefox and ublock blocks the ads :D
Spotify isn't always online, you can download any songs you want and listen to them offline
As long u pay lol
What is the VLC pic trying to show, listening to offline pirated music library?
I use Gyawun music am I weird
I have been using VLC, since I was a child. It's GOAT. Now I prefer MPV.
Music bee is superior
A reminder of why to not use spotify in the first place: https://bsky.app/profile/jjbbllkk.bsky.social/post/3m6xsps7xh22t
Spotify as a service is good, but i just cant live knowing im paying a corporation whose CEO invest on military startups
You can be against paying any subscriptions or against paying for content in general but like 11€ to access pretty much every song ever made is worth it to me.
No, they don't wonder. Nobody cares. Nobody gives a shit OP. Nobody is "I wOndER WhY yHeY PiRATe".
Stop it.