Wag mo na pansinin yan, hindi na relevant ang MNLF. Pero baka isang siglo pa aabutin bago mareform yung gun culture dyan sa barmm. Kung gusto natin ma protektahan yung national territory, need natin palakasin ang military dahil sila ang lalaban dyan sa mga separatist.
It’s always the “naka deposit sa [W]orld [B]ank” eh. HAHAHAHAHA. Alam mong bobo yung nag comment.
Also, “…..Islamic United Kingdom of Sulu & North Borneo” pero ginagamit ang watawat at national emblem ng Pilipinas. Hindi ba nila alam na ang agila sa national emblem symbolizes the American colonizers? Sure, they could argue na it’s the eagle from Mindanao. However, the fact na they copied most of the emblem reflects na wala talaga silang original identity.
MNLF? That’s the group led by Nur Misuari. Kaya hindi nakakapagtaka na iisa pinagsasabi nyang mga yan (MNLF at DD💩). Puro tanga kasi pinuno.
Sa mga hindi taga mindanao. Brmm is not the entire mindanao. 80% ng population is christian so kung mangtrip to sila magseparate sila nalang kasi madali naman mabugbog sa daming army stations.
BARMM has nothing to do with the whole Mindanao Independence bs. That all comes from the Christian areas in Davao, Bukidnon, and CDO, specifically the political base around the Dutertes.
i wouldnt fully blame the chinese on this one considering these people have a history of wanting seperate states if they are not the majority and then devolve into clan warfare (if they stay religious or no oil)
Why are you taking a Facebook post way too seriously?
Also, MNLF are salty because they're mostly based in Sulu, iirc. Sulu has been salty about BARMM being situated in Mainland Mindanao and monopolized mostly by the Mainland Moro tribes.
Comments like this are what stoke the ‘DDS’ core into believing secession is right. You’re just falling into the hands of the Chinese where they will divide and conquer the country.
If that's the case, 100% there's going to be ANOTHER Islamic insurgent group in the south who will probably say "The current MNLF and MILF leaders are Puppets of the current admin"..
Ang nakakatawa pag pupunta ka ng Mindanao BARMM at Moro areas yung mga pinaka panget and delikadong lugar. Tapos gusto pa nila idamay pababa buong Mindanao. As for the Non Moro regions nman DDS infestation nman yung problema esp Davao regions 🤣.
1.) Hinde nila makukuha yung Palawan dahil sa AFP at PNP (and to some extent, the US armed forces).
2.) Magaaway yung mga MNLF, MILF, at DDS kasi gusto nila yung puon nila ang maghahari sa Mindanao.
3.) NPA, ISIS, and BIFF will just take advantage of it because the AFP and PNP aren't there anymore..
4.) They will eventually make the mistake of declaring war on BOTH the Philippines and Malaysia because of Palawan and Sabah.. which might get the US and UK (and to some extent, Vietnam) involved in the conflict.
All this shenanigans is the reason why entire provinces are leaving the BRMM, the MNLF thinks it usurps national authority - it is merely given autonomy but the national government retains supreme control.
Ang weird ng obsession nila sa Sultanate of Sulu hahahahaha.
Also, Sabah. Di ba nila naisip tanungin ang mga taga Sabah kung gusto nila? I mean, kung ako naman taga Sabah, kung tatanungin nasa Malaysia na ako bakit pa ako aalis. Mas may sense pa siguro yung mga isla sa North Sulawesi kung tutuusin.
Destroy all shitty terrorists. Shitty communist terrorists and shitty religous terrorists. Useless and worthless, nothing but obstacle towards peace and development.
Strengthen the military and our institutions so they can destroy those terrorists, and prevent another rise of those shits.
Reminds me of one commentary about how a group would demand independence, the government would negotiate with it and agree to end hostilities, and then a splinter group would be formed from the first one and demand the same thing.
Comments here shows the reason for a heightened resolved for secessionism among Mindanaoans unparalleled to the 20th Century, Luzon folk's indifference and subjugation.
After decades of continued regional disparities in terms of economic development and political representation, and the continued sidelining calls of constitutional reforms for genuine and equitable political and economic, gradual portions of Mindanaoans are realizing secessionism is their only way forward. Is it their fault that they feel neglected? I already know what all of you will say, something related to the "comically bad Davao Man" when these problems go long before him.
All I can say people who have long ridiculed the situation of the people of Mindanao have no right to be angry of them, and perhaps you ought to re-evaluate your cultural, political, and social perspectives of them, and perhaps realize Constitutional Reforms for a Parliamentary and a Federalist System will be the only solution. What had been happening may not be obvious to some of you but it's what we call a systematic form of ethnic racism. Singaporean secession from Malaysia in the 60s, Brexit, South Sudan secession, all being motivated by ethnic indifference towards them.
Ending MNLF will just create a crisis, a crisis that could even be existential, though I highly doubt if we are capable to end the group. MNLF and MILF are not just groups, they are the physical representation of a political ideology and determination of the Moros to be independent.
This is the bigger picture that most of us miss.
MNLF is not a terrorist organization, in fact they have an official representation in the OIC, so they can easily secure support from Islamic countries, especially the Arab nations can exert serious economic pressure on us.
And yes, the dark horse in Mindanao — Malaysia. I don't really know the true intentions/geopolitical objectives of Malaysia on Mindanao, but there was a leaked report that during the negotiation on the creating of Bangsamoro, Malaysia attempted to influence the said negotiation by expanding the Bangsamoro territory, which they failed. I can't remember the exact details, if I remember correctly, Malaysia approached the US.
We have never truly resolved the legitimate issues in Mindanao's local geopolitics, it's literally a time bomb.
Sounds more DDS and Sulu Sultanate crazies ang main sponsor nito. Di naman Bangsamoro ang North Borneo.
Wala ding mangyayari sa “Mindanao Independence” if the majority of people living in Mindanao and Palawan don’t even recognize it.
AFP doesn’t even waste their time on these zarzuelas.
Wag mo na pansinin yan, hindi na relevant ang MNLF. Pero baka isang siglo pa aabutin bago mareform yung gun culture dyan sa barmm. Kung gusto natin ma protektahan yung national territory, need natin palakasin ang military dahil sila ang lalaban dyan sa mga separatist.
Ang tindi ng mga kulto sa Mindanao at napaka delusional pa at DDS, may malaking kulto na nga sa Luzon ta's DDS din ang mga baliw.
It’s always the “naka deposit sa [W]orld [B]ank” eh. HAHAHAHAHA. Alam mong bobo yung nag comment.
Also, “…..Islamic United Kingdom of Sulu & North Borneo” pero ginagamit ang watawat at national emblem ng Pilipinas. Hindi ba nila alam na ang agila sa national emblem symbolizes the American colonizers? Sure, they could argue na it’s the eagle from Mindanao. However, the fact na they copied most of the emblem reflects na wala talaga silang original identity.
MNLF? That’s the group led by Nur Misuari. Kaya hindi nakakapagtaka na iisa pinagsasabi nyang mga yan (MNLF at DD💩). Puro tanga kasi pinuno.
https://preview.redd.it/en3t0jv5cccg1.jpeg?width=650&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=06383c8924784faa1bb332cea840a08ff5b4d335
Ginawang literal na banko eh hahaha
How to know china is involved? They're now including palawan in the narrative.
Sa mga hindi taga mindanao. Brmm is not the entire mindanao. 80% ng population is christian so kung mangtrip to sila magseparate sila nalang kasi madali naman mabugbog sa daming army stations.
BARMM vehemently opposes Mindanao secession, so it's only the minority of the extremists that are into this.
They know that they will run out of money if they secede. Their subsidies come from Manila, not Davao.
BARMM has nothing to do with the whole Mindanao Independence bs. That all comes from the Christian areas in Davao, Bukidnon, and CDO, specifically the political base around the Dutertes.
Im not even sure if the mindanao independence bs is real. Might just be the product of trolls trying to undermine filipino unity.
This sounds like something china would do to destabilize us.
Tbh I think it's just half a dozen old assholes and then some younger grifters who use it for a career in local politics.
yung argument naman nila, eh kaya naman naging 80% kasi pumunta naman yung mga di naman talaga taga doon like cebuanos, bisayas and others.
"What? There are more than 10+ provinces in Mindanao? I thought Mindanao = Muslim"
- Tagalogs
hindi ako magugulat na gawa ng CCP e2.
tandaan, grey zone warfare ginagawa nila.
i wouldnt fully blame the chinese on this one considering these people have a history of wanting seperate states if they are not the majority and then devolve into clan warfare (if they stay religious or no oil)
i said CCP... and i mean the people who align or actually members of the CCP.
Highly likely. Creating assertion and instability.
Why are you taking a Facebook post way too seriously?
Also, MNLF are salty because they're mostly based in Sulu, iirc. Sulu has been salty about BARMM being situated in Mainland Mindanao and monopolized mostly by the Mainland Moro tribes.
What a joke. Just warlords doing warlord shits.
Well, benefit din naman sa Luzon and Visayas kung hihiwalay Mindanao.
Wag nila isama Palawan
Exactly. This is good for us.
This reeks of the Dutertes and thei cohorts rather than MNLF or BARMM.
100% sure they'll end up like 90s Balkans or Warlord Era China
Hiwalay nila Mindanao go. But include Palawan?
AFP will foght tooth and nail lol. Amo na amoy anong bansa backer eh
Comments like this are what stoke the ‘DDS’ core into believing secession is right. You’re just falling into the hands of the Chinese where they will divide and conquer the country.
Pwede na ba ibitaw yung sub saharan?
MNLF and other BRMM groups already said they do NOT support Mindanao independence.
If that's the case, 100% there's going to be ANOTHER Islamic insurgent group in the south who will probably say "The current MNLF and MILF leaders are Puppets of the current admin"..
Sub Sahara Like
Ang nakakatawa pag pupunta ka ng Mindanao BARMM at Moro areas yung mga pinaka panget and delikadong lugar. Tapos gusto pa nila idamay pababa buong Mindanao. As for the Non Moro regions nman DDS infestation nman yung problema esp Davao regions 🤣.
100% kung mangyari to:
1.) Hinde nila makukuha yung Palawan dahil sa AFP at PNP (and to some extent, the US armed forces).
2.) Magaaway yung mga MNLF, MILF, at DDS kasi gusto nila yung puon nila ang maghahari sa Mindanao.
3.) NPA, ISIS, and BIFF will just take advantage of it because the AFP and PNP aren't there anymore..
4.) They will eventually make the mistake of declaring war on BOTH the Philippines and Malaysia because of Palawan and Sabah.. which might get the US and UK (and to some extent, Vietnam) involved in the conflict.
Napaghahalataan ang totoong agenda nila😂😂😂😂….
I actually want it to secede if only to see how it fabulously implodes amidst warring factions vying for a sliver of power lmao.
All this shenanigans is the reason why entire provinces are leaving the BRMM, the MNLF thinks it usurps national authority - it is merely given autonomy but the national government retains supreme control.
sobrang minority and irrelevant na ng MNLF sa Mindanao and Majority of the cities in Mindanao are christian. In short, kaka facebook mo yan.
Tapos pasimuno nyan lahat mga duterte, number 1 sa destabilization process dahil kating kati na ang pwet pumalit ni lustay maging presidente
Yung mga transplant na bisaya sa mindanao na gusto ng mindanao independence, go ahead! Make my day!
Swear allegiance to the supersultanate of sulu and maguidanao
Lmao
teka dina sila MILF?
world bank mentioned automatic alam ko na mga kagaguhan ng mga naga-comment neto HAHWHWAH
Wont be surprised if China and Duterte have hand in this.
Ang mas pang tanga pa, sinasama nila palawan.
Dapat puksain nga yang mga terorista na yan. Pero yung mga kilalang political dynasties ang mas makikinabang jan
ANo na mga DDS, akala ba namin sabi nyo ay gusto ng mga tiga Mindanao na duterte ang mamuno sa kanila hahahahaha
MNLF? Nur Misuari attempted a different but spiritually same goal, failed spectacularly. Palawan would also say no.
Yes, but how? What is the root cause and how can that be solved?
Yun kasi ang hardest part to overcome eh. Is it plainly Islam as a belief, or is it warlordism? Poverty?
The people of Palawan would beg to differ from Mindanao secessionist desires.
Pala desido din tong mga MOKLO nato, kung iisipin nyo minority parin yang mga muslim na yan sa Mindanao, tapang tapangan lang mga yan kasi may armas.
Ang weird ng obsession nila sa Sultanate of Sulu hahahahaha.
Also, Sabah. Di ba nila naisip tanungin ang mga taga Sabah kung gusto nila? I mean, kung ako naman taga Sabah, kung tatanungin nasa Malaysia na ako bakit pa ako aalis. Mas may sense pa siguro yung mga isla sa North Sulawesi kung tutuusin.
Destroy all shitty terrorists. Shitty communist terrorists and shitty religous terrorists. Useless and worthless, nothing but obstacle towards peace and development.
Strengthen the military and our institutions so they can destroy those terrorists, and prevent another rise of those shits.
dumb people
Lakas ng loob maging ganyan ni hindi nga nila maayos yung lugar nila tsk.
Buhay pa pala mga to kala ko tumahimik na mula nung nagkaron ng BARMM
Reminds me of one commentary about how a group would demand independence, the government would negotiate with it and agree to end hostilities, and then a splinter group would be formed from the first one and demand the same thing.
This is just PR noise . 100 % zero chance to succeed. Wag na pong pagakasayahan ng emosyon. Hayaan na lang po natin ang mga DDS ang magpauto,
Ang tanong willing ba mga Duterte ma under sa MNLF?
Are they be willing to surrender power?
Ang mga Sultanate daw meh power eh lol. Or the are the MNLF willing to hand power to the Duterte?
Kasi in the CCP POV, they will hand out money to those in power. Kaso.... who really has power?
Kasi once Mindanao succeeds.... AFP will move out leaving the Duterte's technically powerless kasi wala naman silang army or a personal army.
The MNLF however has arms..
China is only the carrot, it can't be both carrot and stick.
Sinama pa talaga ang Palawan. HAHAHA
Comments here shows the reason for a heightened resolved for secessionism among Mindanaoans unparalleled to the 20th Century, Luzon folk's indifference and subjugation.
After decades of continued regional disparities in terms of economic development and political representation, and the continued sidelining calls of constitutional reforms for genuine and equitable political and economic, gradual portions of Mindanaoans are realizing secessionism is their only way forward. Is it their fault that they feel neglected? I already know what all of you will say, something related to the "comically bad Davao Man" when these problems go long before him.
All I can say people who have long ridiculed the situation of the people of Mindanao have no right to be angry of them, and perhaps you ought to re-evaluate your cultural, political, and social perspectives of them, and perhaps realize Constitutional Reforms for a Parliamentary and a Federalist System will be the only solution. What had been happening may not be obvious to some of you but it's what we call a systematic form of ethnic racism. Singaporean secession from Malaysia in the 60s, Brexit, South Sudan secession, all being motivated by ethnic indifference towards them.
Sometimes these ideas flurish due to the ineptness and corruption of our current government.
People that are fedup, poor and improvised tend to support radial ideas and the what if's without any full thought of the consequences
Ending MNLF will just create a crisis, a crisis that could even be existential, though I highly doubt if we are capable to end the group. MNLF and MILF are not just groups, they are the physical representation of a political ideology and determination of the Moros to be independent.
This is the bigger picture that most of us miss.
MNLF is not a terrorist organization, in fact they have an official representation in the OIC, so they can easily secure support from Islamic countries, especially the Arab nations can exert serious economic pressure on us.
And yes, the dark horse in Mindanao — Malaysia. I don't really know the true intentions/geopolitical objectives of Malaysia on Mindanao, but there was a leaked report that during the negotiation on the creating of Bangsamoro, Malaysia attempted to influence the said negotiation by expanding the Bangsamoro territory, which they failed. I can't remember the exact details, if I remember correctly, Malaysia approached the US.
We have never truly resolved the legitimate issues in Mindanao's local geopolitics, it's literally a time bomb.
And the current situation can easily turn for the worse. Including Palawan on this “mindanao” secession seems to serve China’s interests.
All it takes is some generous bankrolling and support from outside actors and some “disgruntled individuals” can certainly stir things up.