Naglabas ng sentimyento ang ina ni Jerlyn Doydora dahil sa pagkasawi ng kaniyang anak sa umano’y naging engkwentro ng mga sundalo at rebeldeng grupo sa Mindoro kamakailan.
Naglabas ng sentimyento ang ina ni Jerlyn Doydora dahil sa pagkasawi ng kaniyang anak sa umano’y naging engkwentro ng mga sundalo at rebeldeng grupo sa Mindoro kamakailan.
Yung mga taong nag ssabing "at this day and age may nauuto pba yung mga npa?" mga gaga yung iba nga dito nauuto ng mga jowa eh,mga recruiter pa kaya ng NPA eh malamang trained yan.
Lalayo pa ba tayo? INC best example dito 💀
Exactly. I'm a trapped INC member, and the number of people I know na highly educated and I thought na intelligent eh na-brainwash parin ng INCult.
And even some supposedly intelligent people fall for propagandas all the time too lol
Walang immune sa propaganda, generally speaking
Tumpak mo yan sir/madam. Ang may agenda, maghahanap ng paraan kung panong makakapagimbita. Isa pang malakas mang-manipulate ay yung mga MLM ponzi scheme jusko muntikan na rin ako 😭
Pero true! Just my two cents: hindi naman kasalanan ni Renee Co kung hindi solid ang support system nung bata, at kumpiyansa sa sarili. Kasi ang indibidwal kung malakas ang loob at tiwala sa sarili hindi basta basta mapipikot ng kahit sino. Kanino ba magmumula at sino ba magtuturo ng paniniwala sa sarili? Edi magulang. Balik rin kay mother ang pangduduro niya haha
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Bruh, NPA, INC, Dutertes, and Marcoses. Seriously, every time people point out how others keep getting fooled by them. There are always people who run defense for them..
INC, Quibolok, Joel is Libog, DDShits...kulto. Mga nag papaputo sa EWAN.
NPA, mga nauuto sawa na sa mga kurakot. Good ideology, wrong execution. Damay pati mga gusto lang mabuhay ng tahimik.
Some of my older relatives are educated people yet they're hardcore DDShits 💀
So yeah, as long as alam ng isang tao/organization/cult ang weaknesses and desires mo, they would know how to say things you want to hear and manipulate you. That's why maraming nauuto lol
Ang ideology ng left ay taliwas sa exisiting na sistema natin. Kung ayaw mo ng sistema natin, you can consider yourself taliwas. Pero automatic NPA ka ba?
Hindi nila kailangan "mang-uto" kasi marami naman talagang tao ang ayaw sa sistema na meron tayo. Ang problema lang, pag ikaw, as a normal person nagvoice out ka ng opinyon mo na against sa "accepted na sistema", at namulat ka, at pinili mong mas maging involved sa pagkilos, kesyo sa rally o sa bundok, automatic kalaban ka na ng estado.
Ganyan ang tinuturo ng gobyerno: either you blindly follow this govt and it will treat you as an obedient citizen, or openly hate it and be enemy of the state.
Napakalayo ng "galit sa sistema" sa "enemy of the state" anong kaputanginahan to
Pwede ka maging galit sa sistema, bumoses, pumrotesta. Tangina naman kasi wag lang kukuha ng baril at aanib sa literal na terrorist group.
Try mo mag-rally sa labas, minsan mas marami pang mga pulis kesa sa ralyista. At kailangan mo mag-ingat kasi konting kibot pwede kang damputin at ikulong na lang.
Pansinin mo rin ang general view ng mga tao sa mga aktibista. Na para bang taboo ang pagiging vocal sa kritisismo sa gobyerno.
Yes pwede ka magalit sa sistema nang hindi namumundok. Pero alam mo ano ang kaputanginahan? Yung kahit simpleng aktibista ka lang e itatrato ka nang terorista.
I was recruited nung nag aaral pa ako. They target orgs para isahan lang lecture. Hindi lang basta orgs, sudent council, etc. May cert pa nga ako nila na umattend ako. Haha. Mind you, legit na pinatawag kami ng univ to attend kasi leadership training yung topic.
Madalas nakukuha ay yung may pinaglalaban talaga or mga masakit na nakaraan or pinagdaanan. They’ll show you lahat ng katiwalian, sasabihan ka na misfortune ng pamilya mo or past traumatic experiences mo ay dahil sa mga kagagawan or nag-ugat dahil sa mga kurakot, etc. Lahat ay relatable.
Kaya palagi sinasabi bakit madami sa UP? Madami sa mga pamantasan? They are very good! Isang lecture na 20-30mins nga e kaya ka na papasukin. How much more if kasama ka nila for months na?
Alam mo pang counter? Yung mga AFP na naglelecture din sa mga schools/univ. Kaya siguro ako hindi nakuha before kasi naka attend din ako lectures from AFP aside din syempre na tamad ako sa pumunta sa mga pulong. Haha
Kaya kapag nakakakita ako mga estudyante na na recruit at mga kupz na wala idea pano sila napunta dun, gusto ko sabihan baka mauna sila umakyat kapag tinarget sila ma lecturan.
Sa true naman sa orgs sila mas aggressive magrecruit. Pag ordinary student na sabay lang sa agos ng semester di nila basta basta nakukuha.
Ngl if ganito yung mag re recruit sakin malamang nasakal ko na yung isa sa kanila kung mali masabi nila.
marami ring NPA defenders na nagllurk sa sub na to and other PH subs, lumalabas lang pag may mga ganitong threads
For all you know members yan ng mga org na part ng umbrella ng NDF.
Kulto na kasi ang NPA. Kita mo naman, si Duterte may nauuto. Last time i checked, hinirang pa nyang MABUHAY ANG NPA, during an SMNI interview recap
yeah the NPA are a bunch of thugs, extortion ginagawa nila sa mga bundok, pwersahang manghihingi ng pagkain mula sa mga civilians, maninira ng property ng mga businesses pag di nabigyan ng ransom.
I know someone from Masbate na naging biktima nuon, wala silang pagkain na maibigay sa mga NPA kaya yung aso nila kinuha. Tang ina talaga
Any kulto is in any bundok na rin naman e. Halos lahat ng mga kulto na nananakop ng pananampalataya bonabahiran ng brainwashing and pagkupkop ng mahihinang mentalidad na mga tao. Easiest target nila yung mentally challenged, lalo na yung madaling mamanipula. Mas lalo na kung ang mga NPA ay under ng malakas na kulto sa politiko (hint, hint)
I was there. Haha. Naging parte rin ng kulto aka born again xtian church nung college. Ok naman. Paholy holy. I didn’t keep in touch after graduating. I learned later from my sister how fucked up the “system” is in there. Nothing sexual that i know unlike sa iba na ginagamit ang members (aka quiboloy), mostly money.
Poverty breeds rebellion.Compounded by corrupt government and their oligarch partners.That makes for a very powerful and compelling argument for class war.And the students are the first to answer that call.It is the same conditions that saw Rizal and Bonifacio to lead the charge.It is unfortunate that establishment propaganda has dumbed down our elders who were made to believe that rebellion is evil.
Nuanced political discussion?? In my r/Philippines??
Nakakagulat nga eh. Karamihan ng posts dito puro pro-BBM, transphobia, anti-poor, etc.
It is refreshing to see someone actually making sense.
To add. My personal bias aside, theoretically speaking arm struggle is a legitimate political struggle that is not only rooted in marxism and socialism but most importantly in liberalism esp in the political theory of Locke. Arm struggle is born out of exploitation, oppression and inequalities.
The question of whether there is a better alternative is a question of concrete material development of society.
Ganitong diskurso sana. Hindi lang yung ibabaw.
Lalo na ngayon may flood control projects tapos kukuha na naman pondo sa philhealth at pdic na daoat di ginagalaw. Alam nyo na pinagagawa ng admin na ito...lulubog na lang tayo sa kumunoy pagtanda /retire natin(dahil doon mong magkikita yung epekto da ekonomiya although ngayon nga kita na rin naman yung effecs). Good luck
Wala eh, gusto peaceful rally lang daw sagot. As if nanginginig sila against that. People Power worked kasi backed by military and political leaders. Battle vs corruption when most politicians(maybe everyone) is corrupt seems like a lost cause. Alam na rin nila sagot sa military, dagdag sahod (Duterte, BBM)
exactly
Atp mga anak na lang nila sisihin nila. Kasi nasa legal age na yan, matatalino naman siguro kasi nga college students, nag-aaral sa maayos na schools. Kagaya nga ng sinabi rito ng iba, ano bang klaseng pitch ginagawa ng NPA para ma-recruit sila? Kasi imo, kung ako may ma-meet na recruiter at iisipin ko pa lang na bawal ganito doon, bawal ganyan, need ko humawak baril, walang pera, walang maayos na tirahan, walang maayos na pagkain eh aayaw talaga ako eh. So dapat ang sisihin nila yung mga anak nila bakit sumasali sa ganyan 🤦♂️ it’s not like may nakatutok na patalim sa leeg ng mga anak nila para bawal humindi. Sa 4 years ng mga kaibigan at kamag-anak ko sa UP at PUP, mas marami pa raw silang na-meet na recruiter ni god the mother kesa sa NPA. So that means madalang ka talagang makakasalamuha ng member/recruiter UNLESS ikaw mismo humanap sa kanila. Nung humindi kuya ko sa isang na-meet niya na recruiter, tapos naman na usapan nila non. Di rin siya ni-contact kasi di naman niya binigay number niya or email. These people weren’t minors when they joined that group; they had the capacity to discern.
Sa 6 years ko sa PUP, ni hindi man lang ako naka encounter yan. Pero malas ako sa God the mother na yan, lagi ako ti tyempuhan hahaha
May God the mother din pala sa PUP haha kala ko sa UP lang sila
Same thoughts lol. Shookt ako sa God the mother.
Damang dama ko comment mo hahahaha same experience 😭 every year, iba-ibang recruiter. Ang malala naging groupmate ko pa yung isa sa project kaya no choice, can't cut contact hahaha punyemas na mother mother yan
PUP grad here and may mga iilang activists na nasa hallway habang nagkklase kami na sumisigaw na mag walk out and sumama sa rally. Tbh, never nasali sa rally and walang naging member sa buong klase namin dahil may choice naman kami. We are grateful for them dahil pinaglaban nila yung 12 pesos per unit namin na tuition noon. Isa sa mga maipagmamalaki kong natutunan ko bilag graduate ng state university ay naging mulat ako sa katotohanan ng buhay ng mga mamayang Pilipino.
Went to PUP during college. Mar recruit ka talaga ng NPA if you are actively putting yourself in a position to be recruited. Pero kung normal na estudyante ka lang, maliit ang tyansa na ma-come across mo yung mga nagr recruit
Truthfully. Lalo na kung patay na estudyante ka lang trying to get by, wala namang "active" na mang rerecruit sayo.
sabi saken ng kakilala ko usually ung mga active daw sa extracurriculars at academics ang target nila. tipong mga recruiter mismo nakikipag socialize thru healthy discussion na low-key recruiting na pala. ewan ko galawan ngayon iba na generation eh
di ko sinasabing bobo yang mga yan pero di sila bagay sa bundokan at barilan.
I was with tibaks in college, wala namang nag-npa sa kanila although one became a community organizer for a left leaning org. Yung iba, nalamon ng sistema na gusto nilang baguhin, ayun luminya sa mga trapo! Tipong Chiz ang galawan!
Gagi bumalik alaala ko sa mga koreans na nagrerecruit sa God the Mother hahahaha. Usong uso Kdrama nun tas mga classmate kong babae adik sa kdrama kaya inaya kami. Pota nabinyagan agad 1st day pa lang kaya di na bumalik hahaha.
sorry, PUP grad din ako pero di ko alam yang God the Mother hahaha
Around u-belt sila nang rerecruit eh. Korean Cult sila
not from UP or PUP, ano ang God the Mother?
Kulto.
Una nyan kasi may common kayo pinaglalaban like tuition hike na hindi makatarungan, ganito nag infiltrate recruiter sa school namin dati, then honeypot, at yung bebentahan ka ng "samahan".
Pero pucha wala naman narecruit saamin noon, mas nauto pa kami sa honeypot nung "tara kape tayo" ng mga nagfa-frontrow noon
Tawang tawa ako sa recruiter ng God the Mother HAHAHA so true
Tangina meron din pala sa PUP God the Mother mahsussknssgsisnsbsh kingina kaya wala ako kinakausap na hindi kaklase takot ako makakausap ng ganyan hahahahaahha
Bruh, akala mo lng Yang mga Yan magaling Lang sa school Di nman magaling sa life decisions, dami KO kakilala mga ganyan, kelangan pa Rin talaga gabayan
Exactly. Need gabayan. Eh hindi ba yung mga magulang nila, magulang natin yung nakaabot sa panahon na malakas pa ang NPA? Kaya alam nila kung ano mga ginagawa nila? Mga magulang ko nga mismo ang nagkkwento sa’min back then na sa probinsya nila nangangatok sa mga bahay-bahay yung mga members para humingi ng pagkain, pera. Sure di raw sila nananakit but still, takot mga tao sa kanila. Tinatakot nila. I’m all for systemic change but not in that way. Mas pabor pa ako kung mga mansion ng corrupt kinakatok nila eh. Kaya bago pa ako noon tumuntong ng collge, alam ko na sa sarili ko na kung may ma-meet man ako na recruiter, I’m 101% sure na hindi ako sasama. So nasaan ang paggabay ng mga magulang nila sa kanila?
Never ko talaga magegets kung ano magagawa ng pamumundok sa pag-unlad ng bansa. Minimalism?
The short explanation according to them is that the system is inherently broken already and that we need to break it by force via armed struggle
protracted guerilla warfare kasi ang doctrine nila. same model na ginamit sa china at cuba
Yas mangingikil sila sa mga magsasaka.
this is true, de kuha pa yan samin ng bigas, kala mo may ambag sa palayan
Brainwashing is the normal-est answer.
Kagaya ng mga kulto, aakitin ka sa mga pangako, tapos ilulubay ka sa magulang mo, then they will make you feel safe with them, and next thing you know you are part of the cause kasi trust na trust mo na sila kaysa sa ibang tao.
kasi di sila legit at gusto pa nila mga armado sila. ayun kaya derecho bundok para mahirap mahuli. masaklap lang nadadamay mga katutubo sa kagaguhan nila
Look at the flood control issue. May nanagot na ba.
Nag-try mag recruit dati mga NPA sa batch namin (UST, 2002) wala naman nauto. Hindi ko alam kung bakit napasali d'yan anak mo. Nonsense talaga pinagsasabi mas mauuto ka pa nga ng Scammer kesa NPA. 😆
Baka may problema sa pamilya mga sumasali jan, yung kagaya ng mga gusto rin sumali sa mga gang. Kasi kung talagang pakikinggan mo pinagsasabi nila, hindi mo maiisip sumali. 😂
I’m also from UST, SHS ’26. the other commenters are right, they usually invite students to educational discussions. this AY didn’t help either, since we experienced several internal (School paper censorhsip) and external (ofc corruption-related) issues within and around the institution. bcs of this, I think there’s been a surge within our community of students joining these organizations.
I was also recruited, but I was turned off by their email valediction, “Kaisa sa armadong pag-aaklas".
okay lang mag-rally, wag na lang mamundok
How was the NPA a known insurgent group able to try to recruit openly to students without any consequences though ??
Thats truly alarming
Front na mass organization, usually they target ang emotions ng students. Yayayain sa mga educational discussions tungkol sa situation ng mga farmers, IPs, and other sectors sa province and kung ano pinagdadaanan under the military
After ng educational discussions, tonatanong if gustong magparticipate sa outreach activity sa mga IPs/farmers. During the outreach, makikita mo yung situation na madami ngang mga civilians yung nadadamay kase yung means ng military ng pagstop ng insurgency ay violent.
Eventually after mo sumali dun sa mass organization, “namulat” sa mga EDs, they will ask you if gusto mong maging part ng certain orgs. Then ayun na, student will leave their hometown, go to the mountains/or kung saan man sila ma-assign, “serve” the masses.
Source: I was a student, joined an org, left before it became too weird.
I honestly do not have any idea pero my guess is that there are front organizations, ano. Pretending to be something else pero NPA-related. As to what organizations are those, I can only speculate pero I will not do that dahil ang unfair naman kung gagawin ko yun.
However, just because a political party or organization or even a party-list is left-leaning does not necessarily make them communists or NPAs. Being a leftist is not tantamount to being a communist or NPA. Isang bagay na hindi alam ng mga bobo’t mababahong DD💩.
I disagree. While it is true that not all leftists are communist or NPA, the party defines the ideology. It wouldn’t make sense for a capitalist to join a group like Makabayan. But that same capitalist will find themselves aligned with Akbayan more. It's just not everyone is well versed on differentiating the two.
Ideology. When we are young, we are idealistic.
I think one of the reasons is that we don't draw a line between social democrats from other leftist groups. As of now, nasa umbrella tayong lahat na kakampink.
i have an idea, we had seminars about how npa recruits with a former high rank npa para wag mauto. they target vulnerable students, vulnerable in any way, friends, family, financial, medical, school, those who are not satisfied with the government, etc. they dont go "sali ka sa npa, tara sa bundok" kasi sino naman sasama sa ganun.
first na ginagawa nila is kinakaibigan, if they learn the person has no friends, isasama nila sa group nila. if nahihirapan sa school, they will have a study group for them. if financial, theyll help them find work, or even pool resources, or do fund raising. if the student has a problem, they will help you find safety and solution. at the start, it doesnt feel like a recruitment, it feels as if the student found a group they belong. and for the student, they finally made it, people who they can trust.
second phase, they rile up the student. depending on the problem, they find a way to connect it to the government. hirap magbayad? kasalanan ng government kaya mababa sahod, corrupt, walang silbi. hirap magpagamot sa public hospitals? sa mga corrupt. you know the drill. and based on current public opinion on the gov? it is true, so an already vulnerable student made to feel like their struggles are caused by one entity, sino bang hihindi sa reasoning na yun diba? they worm it in, slowly. they prime the student to think like their group, and in some, if not most, understand the feeling of peer pressure esp if may problema ka nung college. esp with people who made you feel safe and seen? oof, dangerous combo. this might take months, even years pero when they see na the student is eating it all up, they move up.
third phase is bringing them to the mountains. now, weird naman if bigla lang niyaya mamundok bigla diba? lalo na pag di naman sa bundok school ng student. outing, tour, school extra, and other reasons. depende kung paano ka nila kinaibigan or nahook, they will use excuses to bring you to the mountain. sometimes, their reason is straightforward, galit ka sa gobyerno? sali ka. sometimes, their goal is just to bring the student to the mountain because once theyre there, its hard to impossible to get out on your own esp if di ka naman taga doon.
thats how they get top notch students, mga students na "matalino paano nakuha ng npa?" their recruitment is not basic, its calculated and plays on current issues and emotional manipulation. sino ba ang may gusto ibahin ang pamumuhay ng mga pilipino? mostly mga students na matalino, yung mga motovation is to do good sa school so they can do better when they join the workforce esp if government position.
and once na andun na sila, some realize what they joined pero its too late. bantay sarado mga bagong recruit kaya hindi rin sila makatakas. its either be killed by the group or by the mountain. may questions im sure, kasi most ng nagrrecruit is recruited the same way, bat di sila tumakas pag nagpunta sa mga school? they pick who goes, and they pick those who are firm on joining na. sa mga mukhang hesitant, they keep them in the mountains. how do they know if firm na? they have things they have to do, parang initiation, i forgot na what they are pero i remember na its things you wouldnt do if youre really hesitant. i remember thinking, even if youre acting to escape, theyre morally wrong to do kaya its kind of hard acting your way out din lalo na if di ka desidido sumali talaga. thats how they weed out the people they have on who to raise the in the ranks.
so yeah, i dunno if i forgot anything pero their recruitment is very subtle din at first. pero may telltale signs din, like very eager to find solutions to your problems bordering on annoying if di talaga bumibigay student, kasi theyre pinpointing yung weak point kaya ganun. also, that theyre not actually students from the school, they might wear lanyards and mingle sa loob or sa labas but theyre not enrolled, they blend in. thats all i remember for this post so, yeah ahaha.
I don't think they just barge in like "Hello mga bata gusto nyo ba sumali sa NPA?". It's probably a fellow classmate or a higher level student who approaches through friendship first, maybe a teacher who can perfectly identify kung sino yung may tendencies. I imagine it would be similar with recruiting in fraternities.
Maraming layers ang pag recruit, hindi yan openly na isasali kasi katulad ng mga normal na org sa school. Nagsisimula yan sa mga klase. Mga pa simpleng pag singit ng pangalan at mga konsepto ni Marx sa mga subject na pwede naman bigyan ng ibang example or kahit counter man lang na ideology para magkaro ng choice ang estudyante, ang pinaka basic. Sa mga klase pa lang sa recit makikita mo na sino yung mga bibo sumagot na tipong galit sa kung anong lipunan meron tayo ngayon sila yung mga madali mauto kasi meron nang foundation to begin with ang kanilang mga recruiter, unti unti na yan pasasamahin or papa attend ng mga ED or Educational Discussion kuno na indoctrination in disguise naman talaga sa totoo. Then yung MKLRP. Research niyo na lang kung ano yun. Yan ang mga first stage, next stage niyan sama ka na sa mga rally bilang aktibista. Hanggang sa yung estudyante na mismo ang maghahanap ng sarili niya sa ranggo ng mga yan. Dun na yan lulong sa ideolohiya nilang baluktot.
This is the way. This is how it happens in college talaga. Yun lang, is it really indoctrination if it’s their choice to believe and participate?
At least yung mga kilala ko na galing from UP, they are thinking critically naman. They just don’t believe in compromise kaya revolution over reform sila.
There is still indoctrination.
Ganito yan, there are people that are more susceptible to recruitment. Gaya nung comment sa taas merong mga mas nakakaintindi ng theory at history-- sila yung lalapitan at iimbitahin sa mga ED. Pero syempre hindi lahat ng nakakadiskurso nila would eventually join them. I'm one of those who didn't join them because I just had too many questions they're not able to address to my satisfaction. Yung mga narerecruit nila are the ones who are able to understand the ideology and end up believing it because they don't question.
They think critically, but still within the box of their ideology. They did learn to question the system and society we live in, but they don't question the organization, its ideology, or the leadership. There's a reason why members of such organizations say the same thing: they actually don't have any original thought and just parrot whatever "analysis" their leaders come up with and preach to them.
In my experience, the more I got exposed to their ideology, the more I saw that it's not exactly grounded in/reflective of reality. It's very idealistic-- which is also why it's attractive to the youth, who are basically equal parts idealistic but also rebellious. But there are those who end up believing in it wholeheartedly, for whatever reason. I know at least 2 people na namundok (one of them was eventually shot at close range, allegedly by the military but I have my own theories).
Yes, you join voluntarily but you do get indoctrinated (or you can say brainwashed). Para lang sila ng strategy sa mga nagrerecruit sa religion (or cult).
I agree. Any person, academic or not, who are very knowledgeable of Marxism and leftist politics will never join the NPA. Their doctrine is still imprisoned in the debate of the 1920's (Lenin vs Trotsky, Revisionist vs Orthodox, Luxemburg vs Lenin, Stalin vs the Frankfurt School, Sison vs the revisionist faction).
It is only by understanding Marx (including the socialist tradition) and not Lenin and Mao to know the truth of communism and socialism. The same with religion: it is only by studying the scriptures and its history and not its interpreters.
Marxism including communism and socialism is not a cult.
Well it fans into a big flame whatever small ember of anger they may have over the government which they really didnt have back in high school. Unless super tibak mo na high school pa lang. It helps to reinforce and validate whatever little knowledge they have.
Indoctrination by definition is thinking uncritically tho. I do acknowledge finding comfort with like minded people, it’s just the uncritical part I’m raising
You think having confirmation bias is thinking critically?
Yup. Ganyang-ganyan nga yung na-experience at witness ko.
+1 here. Yung mga front orgs, lagi silang may mga EDs sa new members tas itatackle nila yung struggles ng masa which led to revolution. 3 courses yun that they call PAKUM tas unang una na dun yung MKLRP na namention. Indoctrination talaga ‘to kasi ipapa-realize sayo that historically successful ang armed struggle kaya marami nab-brainwash na rebolusyon ang solusyon.
Because a lot of left-leaning organizations are truly their front. Marami sa mga nagsusumigaw na they were red-tagged really fall within the same bigger organization. Yan mismo ang sabi samin ng members ng isang group when they were doing "educational discussions" or ED to recruit students to join them.
The system allows it, kita mo naman may mga legal front sila na identified mismo ni Joma Sison sa video niya sa Youtube, pero todo deny pa rin ang mga hunghang.
Based on my experience when i was high school: meron na silang youth member. Syempre HS magkukumulan yan kumain tuwing lunch tapos kunwari "coincidence" na dumating sila and nakipagkwentuhan and fflatter nila ung mga bata (kamil) tapos open forum. Syempre curiosity gets the best of you magtatanong ka naman. Tapos itong youth member very convincing at yayayain ka ganun sa mga program. Wala sa grupo namin ang narecruit but i admit na best friend ko si youth member.
Some Professors in Universities are recruiters
Ge***** La****?
Communist but not really NPA, there’s a huge difference. He does believe in revolution over reform and compromise as evidenced by his lectures pero di siya recruiter.
Andami namin na sinusuka siya haha. May academic freedom lang talaga sa UP kaya we can co-exist
Yung 2nd cousin ng mother ko (Paternal side), NPA member (somewhere in Cotabato). Then yung anak nya nasa UST that time. May org siya, then yun yung front nila sa pag recruit.
Then katulad ng nasa news, napatay na rin ng AFP yung ibang malayong relatives ko. Mabuti naman paubos na sila.
During my uni days active na active mga yan. yung isang department daming prof na pogi, so expected na madaming narecrecruit. takot lang ng president ng uni kung kalabanin nya mga yan.
Mga school org basta mga group na maka-masa. Kahit nga mga religious na school org ginagamit. Pinakamali na group/org sa mga uni/college is lfs.
Kung sa mga sales at scammers may script malamang meron din sa ganyan. May leveling bago ka mag "immersion" parang sa religious group na invite lng. Observe ka tas latagan ka na ng doktrina
UST 2011 here. Seeving the nation for 15 years. Mabuhay ang Pilipinas!
Wala talaga ma-recruit dyan, mga yayamanin naman estudyante dyan eh. 😂
Maganda ung kwento sa youtube ung memoirs of a teenage rebel. Doon tlga paano narereceruit ung mga kabataan lalo na sa school tapos kng anu ginagawa nila sa bundok
Correlation is not causation
In this day and age may nauuto pa rin pala ng NPA.
magtataka pa ba tayo eh in this day and age may naniniwala padin sa mga tulad nito:
- quiboloy
- dutertes
- robin padilla
- bong go
- lito lapid
- tulfos
- senior agila
- inc
- front row
- royale
- yorme
etc...
Thank god ypu added lito lapid. Dami defenders nyan dito kesyo dami daw nagawa na batas. Laws are useless if not act upon. And literally any law can be signed and approved just for clout when it dont afffect anyone.
Dalawa lang ata batas na nagawa ni Lapid, may silbe kesa dun kay Robin pero si puta dapat mas maayos sana na Senador
Kaya nga makes me wonder ano sales pitch ng NPA, "do you want to be closer to nature?"
Eto sales pitch sa kapatid ko ng mga around 2009
Nagbabayad kayo ng buwis na nasasayang lang dahil ninanakaw ng mga pulitoko.
Yung PhilHealth magkano lang ang sinasagot sa Bill ng ospital.
Mayaman ang Pilipinas kung hindi lang ninanakaw ang pera ng gobyerno.
Marami pa siguro pero yan lang sinumbong ng kapatid ko
🎶 🎵 Nothing beats a Jet 2 holiday... 🎶 🎵
In the age na mas marami adik sa tiktok at iba pang socmed, may kabataang sasama sa inconvenience ng bundok living?
mas malaki pa ang chance na maging DDS sila kesa maging NPA sa kakatiktok and facebook nila hahahah
What if nasa tiktok/fb narin mga NPA recruiters planting the propaganda seeds.
I was recruited nung nag aaral pa ako. They target orgs para isahan lang lecture. Hindi lang basta orgs, sudent council, etc. May cert pa nga ako nila na umattend ako. Haha. Mind you, legit na pinatawag kami ng univ to attend kasi leadership training yung topic.
Madalas nakukuha ay yung may pinaglalaban talaga or mga masakit na nakaraan or pinagdaanan. They’ll show you lahat ng katiwalian, sasabihan ka na misfortune ng pamilya mo or past traumatic experiences mo ay dahil sa mga kagagawan or nag-ugat dahil sa mga kurakot, etc. Lahat ay relatable.
Kaya palagi sinasabi bakit madami sa UP? Madami sa mga pamantasan? They are very good! Isang lecture na 20-30mins nga e kaya ka na papasukin. How much more if kasama ka nila for months na?
Alam mo pang counter? Yung mga AFP na naglelecture din sa mga schools/univ. Kaya siguro ako hindi nakuha before kasi naka attend din ako lectures from AFP aside din syempre na tamad ako sa pumunta sa mga pulong. Haha
Kaya kapag nakakakita ako mga estudyante na na recruit at mga kupz na wala idea pano sila napunta dun, gusto ko sabihan baka mauna sila umakyat kapag tinarget sila ma lecturan.
Yung mga nagsasabi dito sa thread na kesyo matured na daw kaya bakit na-recruit. Sana di kayo isa sa naging supporter ng CPP-NPA legal fronts like Anakbayan, Gabriela, Kabataan partylist, Makabayan bloc, etc. Dahil kung oo, ibig sabihin isa kayo sa mga nabiktima ng makinarya/pangbe-brainwash nila 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
Sana mapanood nila yung stories ng former NPA rebels kasi grabe talaga makinarya ng CPP-NPA-NDF sa recruitment kaya hanggang ngayon buhay sila. May solid process kasi sila at di rin basta basta.
Sana mas maging active AFP sa pagbigay ng lecture sa mga colleges/univs para mabawasan at matapos na ang recruitment at wala ng mamatay pa.
Ito yung proof na kahit legal adult kana you can still be swindled, mislead and manipulated.
Boo CPP NPA 🚩🚩🚩
May DDS at MAGA nga eh
Both parties are matured and knowledgeable enough to differentiate good and bad. If that person, her daughter, made the correlation of being an NPA as a good thing then why blame someone who might just be an acquaintance to her.
If being fooled is crime then the God bless the Philippines.
To be fair, there are people behind this whole scheme of gradually indoctrinating students to embrace the Maoist armed struggle. Yes, the fate of the NPA communist terrorist KIA ultimately rests on him or her, and tbh it's a dumb decision to fall to such fate in this day and age (which is why my sympathy is reserved for the parents and relatives of these commies KIA who have to grieve and not for these dead commies themselves), but it does not mean that the people behind this failing terrorist movement and those who support their entire superstructure should just be off the hook.
Ganto linyahan ng mga nasa taas ng pyramiding scam pag nagkakasuhan na
Yep, pag may naganap ng mali eh hugas kamay na.
Knowledgeable isn't enough, Kung mga 30's Yan pede pa. Pero mga edad n ganyan kahit mautak sa school ang bobo sa life decisions at kelangan pa tlagang gabayan to be honest.
Jesus.
Yes, but that doesn't mean that her mother's action of blaming others for her daughter's mistake is justifiable.
Was Jerlyn coerced by Renee to be there?
is there even a proof of Renee Co's connection to the NPA? just pure redtagging by Dede Ess
https://preview.redd.it/qh23h7dyvccg1.jpeg?width=1638&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d08f18f1239ddea6144ae3c9e88b33304a4df138
Oh tapos? A photo with Renee doesn’t equate to coercion though
anong connection?
https://preview.redd.it/ztkq8mv73gcg1.jpeg?width=715&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f1e7d3fa0a4fc1ad7fd154b59e5443452a59d9e1
As much as I hate the government, tatnga tnga talaga minsan tong mga Kabataan/Gabriela no. It's pretty obvious na sa kanila nag sisimula yung recruitment e. Galit pa yan sila kasi inaassociate yan sila sa terrorista pero sila naman nakikipag cooperate sa mga cpp-npa e🖕
Unless there is documented and substantial proof that Renee Co was recruiting people to join the NPA, walang basehan ang sinabi ng Mother ni Jerlyn.
"Sukang suka ka na ba sa gobyerno? sawa ka na ba sa kahirapan?" - Pitch perfect
Bakit considered red tagging kahit malinaw pa sa sikat ng araw ang links ng Makabayan bloc sa armed conflict.
Yong mga yan lang naman gumagamit ng red-tagging daw para depensa nila sa sarili nila. Wala naman yang ganyan dati.
Ang daming victim blamer sa comments dito sa post, Damn!
sad to say pero expected na yan dito sa sub pukinanginga talaga
Pinoys do not do well with organizations because we never agree on anything. After a while nanjan na breakaway factions then they attack and undermine each other
Anong kinalaman ni Renee? May sariling pag iisip naman yung Jerlyn. Hindi naman NPA si Renee. Dinadala nga nya sa tamang paraan ang leftist ideologies by being part of legislature.
This is a fallacy of false equivalence. Being in the legislature does not automatically mean she is advancing leftist ideology in a “better” or proper way. A formal position and responsible implementation of ideology are not equivalent.
Kung i-apply natin yang logic sa ibang branches of government, like sa executive—i.e., Duterte—does that mean his war on drugs was “in the right way” just because he had executive power?
Using the same logic, if we say Duterte enabled the deaths of many “alleged” drug personalities, then by that reasoning, Renee Co enabled the deaths of “alleged” NPA terrorists.
Don’t equate position or power with doing things properly or ethically. And while you may think Renee Co isn’t doing anything wrong, she is clearly fully responsible for the brainwashing of students into armed conflict.
Oo, may sariling pag-iisip ang mga estudyante, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t vulnerable to exploitation. Radical indoctrination and exploitation are no different from other forms of abuse.
STUDENTS MUST BE PROTECTED—so they can freely exercise their ideologies without being radicalized or exploited by these radical left front groups. Left-leaning? Okay pa sana eh. But these are RADICAL LEFT TERRORISTS with legitimate fronts, and they even have legitimate representation in Congress—which, by the way, does NOT mean they aren’t enabling illegitimate acts, like terrorism, just because.
Don’t be complacent like your comment. Deny and resist them.
There is only one truth among the many narratives.
While I agree that having a position of power does nof automatically mean they are acting in the right way, maraming fallacy ka na dinagdag. Why would you even compare Renee with Duterte? When the ICC themselves have 1300 evidences against him? https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/s/Zp0lT0ahhr
The accuser should bear the burden of evidence and so in this case, you should cite evidences of Renee's connection as well sa "brainwashing" na sinasabi mo. By that logic, mas accountable pa ang father and daughter duterte brainwashing millions of Filipinos with their words saying they will defend the country when they couldn't even defend the West Philippine Sea.
When you have time, try to read Renee's Principal Authored Bills para makita mo sino ba kakampi talaga ng mga pilipino in this hell hole.
Tapos sasabihin ng mga communist recruiters sa mga Universities eh namatay sila pero pinatay sila ng mga militar dahil tumutulong lang sila sa mga communities. Ganyan ang script nila sa pag defense tuwing may namamatay na mga college recruits sa bundok. Gagawa sila ng mga post sa FB or minsan may mga sympathetic post sa Rappler then kwekwento yung buhay ng college student na yun how talented and dedicated they were sa pagtulong sa mga katutubo.
Serious question: affiliated ba si Renee Co sa NPA?
A better question would be Why is she getting herself involved in all of this and on the side of the NPA narrative?
Shes the one who is too vocal and kept using Jerilyn's death againts the AFP, what shes doing is a huge disrespect for her family, disgusting.
Keyword: makabayan
Sa thread na to may napansin lang ako. Sa mga pro DDS na pag defend sakanya ay similar ang pag defend kay Renee like eh ano ngayon kung napicturan kung magkasama or wala namang katibayan like tinutukan ba ng ng baril or like eh bakit hindi mo isumbong sa pulis
Never ako narecruit ng mga aggressive orgs sa UP non kasi natuturn off ako sa ugali nilang ang daming pinaglalaban at pinagsisigawan pero pagdating sa group works napakabasura at mga pabigat. Hindi daw naniniwala sa educational system kasi makinarya daw yun ng lipunan to keep the status quo pero maghahabol yan ng grade kapag di sila nakalusot magpabuhat sa mga kagrupo nila sa klase.
Hmmm, daming victim blaming dito sa comments....
Bakit ganyan kasi nirerecruit ng npa. Pano mananalo yan sa afp?
And why should Renee be blamed?? Ilapag mo na yan mother. Unless sya nag-utos kay Jerlyn na mamundok, she is not to be blamed. May mga nabubuntis nga sa college, sa tingin nyo prof pa dapat sisihin dun?
Tingnan nyo naman mga Prinicipal Authored Bills ni Renee para makita nyo gano nya kamahal ang bansa at mga Pilipino. Wake up! May nagsabi pa dito na hindi daw nalilink ang duterte youth sa mga ganito, but the name itself ng partylist means loyal lang sila sa iisang tao/pamilya, anong matutulong nun sa bansa?
So totoo pala na linked ang kabataan party list sa left?
Kabataan has always been a leftist party.
But if you're asking if they're tied up with communist rebels is another question.
Unang una hindi sasali at magiging rebelde yung anak mo kung maayos ang pag-aaruga at pagtrato mo sa kanya sa tahanan niyo. Sino bang tanga ang ipagpapalit ang pagtira sa bundok sa maayos na pamilya?
Boy kaibigan ko maayos Ang pamilya kahit yung anak mismo ba sumali aminado na walang pagkukulang sa kanya, sumali pa rin siya, dahil sa paniniwala niya
ngl these types of folks are enviable. They way they will persist through suffering for their beliefs/convictions.
Most of us live without having a conviction to improve something, wether our own lives or society. We are content with with what we get, doing the same mundane things until our deaths.
I know one family of doctors may pera private school lahat pero nung nasa up na naging part na ng mga orgs ng NPA
Idk if it’s really in the fam
may kilala rin akong family of doctors pero yung tatay nila laging vinverbally abuse yung nanay nila kaya bihira lang siya bumisita or umuwi sa kanila. they look happy and okay on social media pero ilam beses umiiyak yung kaibigan kong MD sa circle namin sa tuwing nagkakagulo sila sa bahay.
So di talaga sapat na well off kayo and successful ang buong family niyo sa careers. Kung may bwesit sa pamilya it’s enough reason bat lumalayo or nagiging distansya yung miyembro ng pamilya.
No any amount of money can spare an individual of a problematic family.
Pamilya agad? Di ba pwedeng uto uto lang siya o inuto ng NPA? 2026 na victim blamer ka pa rin
Meron akong kapitbahay na ang anak ay nauto ng NPA sa UP Los Banos
Ilang buwan ng di nauwe duda ng magulang nasa Mindoro ito at grabe ang kaba ng mga magulang
Me mga asungot ako sa Abra de Ilog Mindoro mukhang andun nga malapit sa encounter site
Bruh I asked for the supposed madaming minor subjects na too political. I told you I’ll even ask my friends about them. Nasan na?
Nobody mentioned anything about an entire class joining for it to be considered recruitment, so bakit yun sinasagot mo? And in the specific instance I gave, it was just for a protest. NPA na para sayo yan?
Orgs na May “cause”, NPA? What?? Pwede ba. Grabe ako kinulit ng ibang orgs to join them. Sports orgs. NPA???? 🤡
At onting accountability naman sa personal agency ng tao. Nag-isip naman yang mga yan bago sumali, kung pano man sila sumali.
And nasan evidence na sinasabi mo? Is this post your “evidence”?? Wala man Lang video or documents SPECIFICALLY SHOWING NPA RECRUITMENT IN UP? O tapos yang recruitment na sinasabi mo, does recruitment directly mean harm for you? Hindi ba daw Pwede mag no yung mga tao? Threatened or at the very least coerced ba sila?
Hindi naman masyado mataas tingin ko sa amin / sa sarili ko. Masyado lang mababa tingin mo samin kung tingin mo pag May nagpakilala “for a cause” ay blindly sasama kami agad sa bundok. Saang university ka ba galing for you to proliferate this kind of talk against UP (and PUP. Wala ako alam sa kanila so I can’t speak for PUP)
read some comments here... grabeng red tagging na yang porket sumama sa nag rarally ng activitst group and student orgs NPA na, maybe may mga nag sisimula from there but it doesnt mean that everyone who protests ay NPA na agad.
ano bang aasahan mo sa sub na tong puro red taggers
curious lang bakit sila naaaninag sa NPA? pera ba o sa banta?
Maybe the allure of being a “freedom fighter”? Though I think it’s really about the ideology they came to embrace. To idealistic young people angry at the system, malakas ang hatak ng communism. Besides, no one wants to go to the mountains unless they really want it.
I think Jerlyn’s mom is just grieving and lashing out. I disagree na binayaran or what. She just lost her daughter. If that happened to me, I’d be angry and lashing out as well.
Bakit ba kasi sila namumundok eh ung mga sinasabing kalaban nilang corrupt at tiwaling pulitiko nasa mga exclusive subdivision, kumakain ng masasarap na pagkain sa mga mansion nila, natutulog sa malambot na kama at de aircon na kwarto, habang sila nasa bundok nagugutom at pinapapak ng lamok, kawawa talaga mga nauuto ng mga yan. Kahit ung mga anak ng mga leader nila sarap buhay sa kapatagan eh
Lalong lalo na sa mga rural areas as someone who grew up in a rural village. Ginagamit lagi na reason ng NPA ay pinabayaan na sila dahil nasa liblib na lugar sila at walang pakialam sa kanila (which is totoo naman) pero ginagamit siya para makapanghikayat ng bagong miyembro. Sa work ko pumupunta kami sa mga rural areas sa Visayas tapos sa lahat ng nakakapanayam ko na mga taga doon, ang target daw nila na laging binibisita ay yung mga sobrang hikahos sa buhay (mga walang lupa at nakikitrabaho lang sa lupain ng iba) kasi sila yung mabilis mahikayat.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA MAS PROBLEMAHIN PA NAMIN SA PUP ANG PILA AT MGA CR NAMIN KESA SUMALI SA NPA HAHAHAHAHAHA
The so called "National Democracy" is an invention of Joma Sison and is based on Marxist-Leninist-Maoist principles. Dont listen to those people who claim that calling the NatDems a bunch of damned commies is "red-tagging".
Communism is in direct opposition to our Filipino culture, our religion, and our way of life. It aims to subvert the minds of many. Communism's goals cannot be achieved without destroying all the opposition first. The worst authoritarian states in the modern times are all communist, and guess what? The NatDems look up to them. Stalin, Mao, you name it.
I believe that the armed struggle is nearing its end but it will not truly end until all of their tentacles from every aspect of the society are severed.
But.. is it really bad to be leftist/Communist or even just an activist? I do know a few who really are leftist (but not NPAs) who genuinely care for the poor and the environment.
I spent 10+ years (BS+MS+Work) in UP and sometimes joined protests pero never naman ako naka-exp ng NPA recruitment lol. Pero religious shit halos araw araw may lalapit sayo para i-recruit ka 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Moronic din na yung kahi
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Another script ng isang bayaran na ddlis coming from Sara Sayad
Bigyan ko ng idea ang NPA, dito nalang sila sa reddit mag recruit lol
One of my brightest batchmates back in HS was recruited from UP, became an arms trainer (or an officer of some sort), and got killed in an encounter.
Buong batch namen shookt kase he was the slim timid glasses nerdy type na prone sa bullying yet little did we know namundok na pala and became an officer at nakipagbarilan pa sa militar.
Nasasayangan lang ako sa buhay niya.