Long story short, people from Britain were sharing misinformation and inciting violence on asylum seekers by sharing it on twitter.
Saying things like "Burn down the migrant hotels" Things like that and people got arrested for it.
But as per usual, Racists are saying that it's more about not being able to complain about things. They absolutely are, especially if it is true. But now instead of openly lying, they have to cherry pick more for actual crimes.
I was talking to a reformer neighbour of mine the other day. Asked what he thought would happen if he said he wanted people to torch a building with people in it in front of a copper. He agreed he’d be arrested. Asked him why he thought it was ok to say that on the internet.
Any? Really? Even speech that isn't linked to organizations that are committing acts of violence or property destruction or a hatred of all Jewish people?
I am well aware that not all criticism of the policies of the state of Israel are related to anti-Jewish hatred but a significant amount of it is.
Yes. In Particular, after some members of the group Palestine Action damaged military equipment which was going to Israel, the entire group was named a terrorist organization, which lead to police arresting 80 year old grannies for protesting against it.
There's a current court case which recently had a substantial reshuffle to have more pro Israel judges deciding whether or not ruling the group are terrorists is fair.
Except they didn't damage "military equipment which was going to Israel", they damaged critical air-to-air refuelling infrastructure belonging to the RAF and which had nothing whatsoever to do with Israel.
And even their their claimed deflection of "the RAF was refuelling Israeli jets" is a load of utter bullshit, because it's a physical impossibility for an UK tanker to refuel an Israeli jet as they claimed, because the RAF uses the European "probe-and-drogue" system and Israel the US "flying boom" design. So either these guys are colossal morons, or there is something else afoot here.
No, the only country who benefitted from this attack is Russia, so "Palestine Action" are either dupes or directly run from the Kremlin to do sabotage acts in the UK under the cover of "fighting for Palestine".
And before you accuse me of being an "Israel stooge" or some shit, what Israel is doing in Gaza is genocide, pure and simple, but, I for one would be really worried about what other "actions in support of Palestine" don't benefit Palestine in any way and instead benefit others, like Russia?
Then those who committed the crime should be punished for it, instead of targeting the entire organisation and using it as an excuse to lock up anti genocide protestors.
Oh I'll grant you, the blanket proscription was dubious at best and illiberal at worst and I think the UK government is trying very hard to turn the autocracy screw down on everyone, but it that's just ignoring my point which was "how does sabotaging RAF planes benefit anyone else but Russia in any way? Specifically, how much does it benefit Pelestine that it's worth it to get your whole organisation outlawed to do it?"
It's the equivalent of a Suffragette cutting the transatlantic telegraph cable during WW1 and then saying "they did it for Women’s Vote, not the Kaiser". What do you think would have happened to the Suffrage movement if that had happened, and how much do you think the British public would have been with them after a stunt like that?
"When Hitler was going around declaring entire swaths of people to be subhuman and inferior to the master race, we never backed down and we put an end to his hateful ideology. Pip pip cheerio!"
"Now when all that conservatives want to do is go around declaring entire swaths of people to be subhuman and inferior to the master race, all of a sudden the evil left is making us back down and they're putting an end to our hateful ideology. RIP freedom, we're being attacked help I'm dying here's my grave!"
This sort of thing happened in 2001 when a news tabloid ran a “Name and Shame” campaign where they would publish personal details about alleged paedophiles, which directly contributed to several lynch mobs forming and firebomb attacks across Scotland and England.
Here are some of the victims:
A pediatrician from Gwent had her home vandalized after vigilantes took her job title for the word "pedophile”.
A retired sea captain was murdered by two vigilantes, who firebombed his home after he was wrongfully accused of being a sex offender. Both perpetrators were jailed for life.
A Glasgow man was beaten to death by vigilantes who accused him of sex crimes.
A group of sixty people threw paint at the house of, and verbally attacked, a Plymouth man who was wrongfully accused of child sex crimes.
Two people suspected of sex crimes died by suicide amid civil unrest related to name and shame.
A 66-year-old Guildford man had his neighbors receive letters falsely accusing him of sexual crimes. He was then provided with overnight protection by police, who distributed leaftlets stating his innocence.
A 78-year-old Croydon man had his home address distributed to about 300 households near his home in leaflets that wrongfully accused him of sex crimes.
A 55-year-old man had leaflets wrongfully accusing him of sex crimes distributed to about 500 households near his home.
Several families from Portsmouth fled their homes due to violent protests in the area that lasted for five days. They were offered rehousing by the Portsmouth City Council.
This is why it’s important to quickly shut this shit down before it snowballs into violence.
I think she said " I don't care if they burn these hotels down" or something along those lines, the bigger picture is she got a longer sentence than someone that had raped a young girl or a celebrity buying pedophile images from someone. When you see the disparity of the Police arriving at an airport port to arrest a comedian over something they tweeted or Xed or whatever, it certainly looks like they care more about suppressing free speech than actual physical crime.
Britain honestly have some draconian laws on speech, always had. These people are just shocked it's being wielded against them instead of left voices and minorities.
In the UK they have been combing through peoples social media to find things that were said that are problematic. Then they follow through with actions that I’m not sure about. I saw a video of two officers trying to get a child’s phone from a mother because of something they had supposedly said years prior
Unfortunately, some of those people are linked to organizations that are committing acts of violence or property destruction or a hatred of all Jewish people.
I am well aware that not all criticisms of the policies of the state of Israel are related to anti-Jewish hatred; but a significant amount of it is.
If you want to oppose violence against one demographic group; it is a very good idea to make sure you affiliate with an organization that doesn't promote violence against a different demographic group.
Yeah no this is nonsense and you know it. The United States is seeing a rise in this style rhetoric as well. Claiming any criticism of Israel as a state is antisemitism, hurts actual victims of antisemitism.
Also you could print your opinions before that. The English Civil War was quite famously a time where every Tom, Dick, and Harry was (if often anonymously) printing their opinions on government.
Edit- and I just remembered that even the Protectorate had pamphlet literature. I read some of Oceana by Harrington at university. It was outright asking Cromwell (through a story about a great leader who obviously wasn't an insert of him called Olphaeus Megalator) putting in a great constitution for "Oceana".
I'll stop now. I know this isn't freedom of speech, but the Glorious Revolution didn't exactly give much more for it.
Interestingly, Hobbes’ Leviathan (a founding philosophy on conservatism and authoritarianism) was published 1651. Its 6th principle argued that the state has the right to censor speech which causes disequilibrium and damages the Leviathan’s hegemony. Hobbes’ Leviathan later became a founding text for the monarchy after the Glorious Revolution to prevent further civil wars.
So, when they claim free speech was introduced, the popular opinion was against free speech and toward authoritarianism
Oh! I get you now. Yeah, I was arguing with the date on the image. The surviving Cromwell bit was just because that on the stone and before 1689. Sorry, should have been clearer. I was more focused on making sure I was not calling it a time of actual freedom of speech.
Okay off topic but I love fashies still having the lip service to say "Hitler was bad" and then they go and suck his ideas off anyways. Like, do none of these people feel like, even a twinge of cognitive dissonance when they're all "Yeah Hitler was bad, right? That's what we're meant to say about him when on camera? Anyways, you ever heard the one about the transgender-"?
My favourite part is that we don't have free speech in the UK. We literally never have. There are plenty of things we're legally not allowed to say. People who rant about this are A: completely misinformed, and B: not realising that they're complaining ON BEHALF of American cultural imperalism.
I mean for certain groups free speech is really fraught in the UK , mainly the people these people consider woke getting libel cases thrown their way or labelled terrorists if they speak out about discriminating and dehumanizing language towards immigrants, the rollback of trans rights or the genocide on Palestine.
I don’t remember Cromwell allowing free speech (if the concept even existed in the 17th century), and Hitler never actually occupied Britain. I really don’t know what the fuck they’re talking about when they bring up the Blitz? Were the Nazis going to bomb free speech out of existence?
Either way, they love to act like they’re being persecuted right up until they get to persecute people.
Given how many Brits are in the comments showing receipts for speech being pretty curtailed in the UK (and in some cases compelled! Yikes!), I don’t think you can point fingers at us for this one.
Having been raised here, and spent considerable time in the US and Europe... it's 12 of one half a dozen of the other wherever you are, basically. They're all free-er countries than many, but the UK does have some authoritarian tendencies that you might find jarring if you didn't know about them. Here's some quick examples:
- The Public Order Act 1986 is very heavy-handed and was put in to use against striking miners. Basically you can't do anything that other people might find 'alarming or distressing' in public (broadly construed).
- Various bits of anti-terrorism legislation have the net effect that you can be arrested simply for expressing support for a designated group. Groups are designated by parliament, so they are a function of politics to a greater or lesser extent. This is a conundrum if, for example, you want express your disagreement with a particular designation, which could in theory get you sent down for 10 years.
- Anti-terror legislation in general resulted in a lot of exceptions to long-held liberties and protections (i.e. how long you can be held without charge in custody, etcetera), which are generally not good.
- There is no right to silence if you are interviewed under caution by the police.
- The Malicious Communications Act is extremely broad and therefore you DO have to be careful what you say online, over the phone, or by letter even if you're not saying anything obviously illegal. The people who make images like this are upset because of people whipping up the hotel riots, which we can see the reasoning behind because it was a very dangerous and volatile situation. However, 2 years in the slammer for making a vague insinuations to your 3 followers is absurd given what certain politicians were saying on national radio.
- The new Online Safety Act gives OFCOM a lot of censorship power they haven't yet used. I'm concerned that if Farage or Farage-type figure gets control of it, the infrastructure is now there to make what is essentially a porn and adult themes ban much more sweeping.
- The distinction between the courts / justice system and the government is not very strong at all. This matter when we're talking about getting rid of jury trials for most cases. I worry about the 'fast track' systems that are put in place at the behest of the government following unrest, for example, after the 2010 riots, because I think courts and the CPS should be free of political pressure.
ETA: I don't know where they're getting 1689 from. The UK did not formally have anything you might describe as an enshrined right to freedom of expression until the late 90s.
Anti-Israeli protestors have been arrested as anti-Semitic!!!
The right to protest is VERY IMPORTANT!!! THE PEOPLES VOICE IS VERY IMPORTANT!!! IT IS WRONG TO TAKE IT AWAY!!! VERY SAD THIS IS BEING USER TO FURTHER THE FAKE NEWS AGENDA OF RIGHT WINGERS BEING OPPRESSED!!!
FREE SPEECH ALL AROUND THE WORLD WHERE IT LIVES IS IN DANGER THANKS TO HORRIBLE LAWS LIKE ONLINE SAFETY ACT AND OTHERS!!! USE YOUR VOICE!!! WESTERN PEOPLE ARE LUCKY TO HAVE THEM AND WE MUST KEEP IT NO MATTER WHAT!!!
We say “free speech” and let people scream all kinds of hate and lies, because “we’re a tolerant society and everyone should respect each other’s views.
Now, however, the hateful are in charge and they are trying to clamp down on anyone saying anything against them.
Let me guess. They are decrying free speech because they think that free speech means the freedom to threaten entire groups of people without consequences.
Just because the conservatives say it, doesnt make it untrue lmao what. The UK has a massive problem with authoritarianism and taking away free speech is a big part of that. People are getting arrested for opposing genocide. How is that NOT anti-free speech? Jesus christ
I always love it when people that live in democratic countries whine about living in a dictatorship. Here in germany we also have a lot of people like this. I always think: "Dude, if you were living in a dictatorship you wouldn't even be allowed to post that"
I hate it when Brits call the Battle over Britain the “Blitz”. If it’s in reference to Blitzkrieg, Germany never had any forces on land to do what they called “Bewegungskrieg”. It’s nationalistic self-aggrandizement, it’s nothing more than ego boosting.
I'm out of the loop what exactly are they complaining about?
Long story short, people from Britain were sharing misinformation and inciting violence on asylum seekers by sharing it on twitter.
Saying things like "Burn down the migrant hotels" Things like that and people got arrested for it.
But as per usual, Racists are saying that it's more about not being able to complain about things. They absolutely are, especially if it is true. But now instead of openly lying, they have to cherry pick more for actual crimes.
I was talking to a reformer neighbour of mine the other day. Asked what he thought would happen if he said he wanted people to torch a building with people in it in front of a copper. He agreed he’d be arrested. Asked him why he thought it was ok to say that on the internet.
So anyway my neighbour still hates my guts.
A perfect example of the Paradox of Tolerance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance?wprov=sfla1
Meanwhile, the uk is also actively cracking down on any speech critical of the genocide of the Palestinian people
Any? Really? Even speech that isn't linked to organizations that are committing acts of violence or property destruction or a hatred of all Jewish people?
I am well aware that not all criticism of the policies of the state of Israel are related to anti-Jewish hatred but a significant amount of it is.
Yes. In Particular, after some members of the group Palestine Action damaged military equipment which was going to Israel, the entire group was named a terrorist organization, which lead to police arresting 80 year old grannies for protesting against it.
There's a current court case which recently had a substantial reshuffle to have more pro Israel judges deciding whether or not ruling the group are terrorists is fair.
Except they didn't damage "military equipment which was going to Israel", they damaged critical air-to-air refuelling infrastructure belonging to the RAF and which had nothing whatsoever to do with Israel.
And even their their claimed deflection of "the RAF was refuelling Israeli jets" is a load of utter bullshit, because it's a physical impossibility for an UK tanker to refuel an Israeli jet as they claimed, because the RAF uses the European "probe-and-drogue" system and Israel the US "flying boom" design. So either these guys are colossal morons, or there is something else afoot here.
No, the only country who benefitted from this attack is Russia, so "Palestine Action" are either dupes or directly run from the Kremlin to do sabotage acts in the UK under the cover of "fighting for Palestine".
And before you accuse me of being an "Israel stooge" or some shit, what Israel is doing in Gaza is genocide, pure and simple, but, I for one would be really worried about what other "actions in support of Palestine" don't benefit Palestine in any way and instead benefit others, like Russia?
Then those who committed the crime should be punished for it, instead of targeting the entire organisation and using it as an excuse to lock up anti genocide protestors.
Oh I'll grant you, the blanket proscription was dubious at best and illiberal at worst and I think the UK government is trying very hard to turn the autocracy screw down on everyone, but it that's just ignoring my point which was "how does sabotaging RAF planes benefit anyone else but Russia in any way? Specifically, how much does it benefit Pelestine that it's worth it to get your whole organisation outlawed to do it?"
It's the equivalent of a Suffragette cutting the transatlantic telegraph cable during WW1 and then saying "they did it for Women’s Vote, not the Kaiser". What do you think would have happened to the Suffrage movement if that had happened, and how much do you think the British public would have been with them after a stunt like that?
A significant part of criticism towards killing kids is antisemitic to you?
On certain subs you'll be called a Hamas supporter just for criticizing Israel.
It's absolutely batshit.
No, it isn't. This is just another conservative dog whistle.
In other words, they're just pissed they can't incite violence.
Fucking hate these twats.
Funnily enough, the one thing that really seems to be banned in the UK right now when it comes to speech is criticizing Israel.
"When Hitler was going around declaring entire swaths of people to be subhuman and inferior to the master race, we never backed down and we put an end to his hateful ideology. Pip pip cheerio!"
"Now when all that conservatives want to do is go around declaring entire swaths of people to be subhuman and inferior to the master race, all of a sudden the evil left is making us back down and they're putting an end to our hateful ideology. RIP freedom, we're being attacked help I'm dying here's my grave!"
This sort of thing happened in 2001 when a news tabloid ran a “Name and Shame” campaign where they would publish personal details about alleged paedophiles, which directly contributed to several lynch mobs forming and firebomb attacks across Scotland and England.
Here are some of the victims:
A pediatrician from Gwent had her home vandalized after vigilantes took her job title for the word "pedophile”.
A retired sea captain was murdered by two vigilantes, who firebombed his home after he was wrongfully accused of being a sex offender. Both perpetrators were jailed for life.
A Glasgow man was beaten to death by vigilantes who accused him of sex crimes.
A group of sixty people threw paint at the house of, and verbally attacked, a Plymouth man who was wrongfully accused of child sex crimes.
Two people suspected of sex crimes died by suicide amid civil unrest related to name and shame.
A 66-year-old Guildford man had his neighbors receive letters falsely accusing him of sexual crimes. He was then provided with overnight protection by police, who distributed leaftlets stating his innocence.
A 78-year-old Croydon man had his home address distributed to about 300 households near his home in leaflets that wrongfully accused him of sex crimes.
A 55-year-old man had leaflets wrongfully accusing him of sex crimes distributed to about 500 households near his home.
Several families from Portsmouth fled their homes due to violent protests in the area that lasted for five days. They were offered rehousing by the Portsmouth City Council.
This is why it’s important to quickly shut this shit down before it snowballs into violence.
I think she said " I don't care if they burn these hotels down" or something along those lines, the bigger picture is she got a longer sentence than someone that had raped a young girl or a celebrity buying pedophile images from someone. When you see the disparity of the Police arriving at an airport port to arrest a comedian over something they tweeted or Xed or whatever, it certainly looks like they care more about suppressing free speech than actual physical crime.
People inciting violence against minority populations, usually by spreading misinformation. Which has very much always been a crime!
Britain honestly have some draconian laws on speech, always had. These people are just shocked it's being wielded against them instead of left voices and minorities.
In the UK they have been combing through peoples social media to find things that were said that are problematic. Then they follow through with actions that I’m not sure about. I saw a video of two officers trying to get a child’s phone from a mother because of something they had supposedly said years prior
By "problematic" do you mean inciting violence?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance?wprov=sfla1
They are using this to also go after people speaking out against the genocide in Gaza
Unfortunately, some of those people are linked to organizations that are committing acts of violence or property destruction or a hatred of all Jewish people.
I am well aware that not all criticisms of the policies of the state of Israel are related to anti-Jewish hatred; but a significant amount of it is.
If you want to oppose violence against one demographic group; it is a very good idea to make sure you affiliate with an organization that doesn't promote violence against a different demographic group.
Yeah no this is nonsense and you know it. The United States is seeing a rise in this style rhetoric as well. Claiming any criticism of Israel as a state is antisemitism, hurts actual victims of antisemitism.
What you are doing is harmful.
Not sure
"They are taking away our free speech!! This is dictatorship! A tyranny!"
What these mfs were saving seveal days ago: "Immigrants should be considered pests and vermin, and exterminators should kill them if i ask"
These people only care about "free speech" when it benefits them.
They only care about "free speech" when theres no consequences
They only care about "free speech" if its hate speech
It’s really terrible. I shouted BOMB!!! in the middle of a crowd.
The dumb police arrested me for wrong-speak. This is literally Hitler times a billion. 😕
Where did we go wrong?
They are also arresting people protesting the genocide in Gaza. Let’s not over simplify this
But that's not what this guy is mad about
Ah yes, 1689. A time of free speech.
Also you could print your opinions before that. The English Civil War was quite famously a time where every Tom, Dick, and Harry was (if often anonymously) printing their opinions on government.
Edit- and I just remembered that even the Protectorate had pamphlet literature. I read some of Oceana by Harrington at university. It was outright asking Cromwell (through a story about a great leader who obviously wasn't an insert of him called Olphaeus Megalator) putting in a great constitution for "Oceana".
I'll stop now. I know this isn't freedom of speech, but the Glorious Revolution didn't exactly give much more for it.
Interestingly, Hobbes’ Leviathan (a founding philosophy on conservatism and authoritarianism) was published 1651. Its 6th principle argued that the state has the right to censor speech which causes disequilibrium and damages the Leviathan’s hegemony. Hobbes’ Leviathan later became a founding text for the monarchy after the Glorious Revolution to prevent further civil wars.
So, when they claim free speech was introduced, the popular opinion was against free speech and toward authoritarianism
1660
89 was the Glorious Revolution. 60 was the Great Restoration.
Yes, so if you're talking about "Surviving Cromwell" then you want 1680.
1689 probably was a pretty good time for free speech, relatively speaking.
Oh! I get you now. Yeah, I was arguing with the date on the image. The surviving Cromwell bit was just because that on the stone and before 1689. Sorry, should have been clearer. I was more focused on making sure I was not calling it a time of actual freedom of speech.
Ah with you. Just another example of conservative memes being so bad they hurt others in confusion.
Lmao
The only one whose ego can't survive Twitter ratios is the owner.
Yeah that's how I interpreted it too, intended or not. Imagine thinking that being ratio'd on twitter, not even a time-out, is the same as genocide.
Okay off topic but I love fashies still having the lip service to say "Hitler was bad" and then they go and suck his ideas off anyways. Like, do none of these people feel like, even a twinge of cognitive dissonance when they're all "Yeah Hitler was bad, right? That's what we're meant to say about him when on camera? Anyways, you ever heard the one about the transgender-"?
I feel they hate the fact Hitler didn't go after the 'right' people (Muslims, especially and specifically).
My favourite part is that we don't have free speech in the UK. We literally never have. There are plenty of things we're legally not allowed to say. People who rant about this are A: completely misinformed, and B: not realising that they're complaining ON BEHALF of American cultural imperalism.
I mean for certain groups free speech is really fraught in the UK , mainly the people these people consider woke getting libel cases thrown their way or labelled terrorists if they speak out about discriminating and dehumanizing language towards immigrants, the rollback of trans rights or the genocide on Palestine.
same people that couldn't hide joy when trans people got persecuted in UK
I don’t remember Cromwell allowing free speech (if the concept even existed in the 17th century), and Hitler never actually occupied Britain. I really don’t know what the fuck they’re talking about when they bring up the Blitz? Were the Nazis going to bomb free speech out of existence?
Either way, they love to act like they’re being persecuted right up until they get to persecute people.
it is becoming a dictatorship , but moreso because of the dwindling minority rights , online safety act and skyrocketing living costs
What I find particularly hilarious about this is the amount of Americans that would insist the UK has never had free speech
Perhaps. But what is clear it isn't worse than the US
Would this be the same US where reporters have to agree to only publish news approved by the pentagon?
Or are we talking about the US where late night comedians who say mean things about the President lose their jobs?
Or did you mean the one where professors have their jobs threatened if they have opinions on the Middle East?
Is it one of those Americas that is criticising free speech in the UK?
Given how many Brits are in the comments showing receipts for speech being pretty curtailed in the UK (and in some cases compelled! Yikes!), I don’t think you can point fingers at us for this one.
Having been raised here, and spent considerable time in the US and Europe... it's 12 of one half a dozen of the other wherever you are, basically. They're all free-er countries than many, but the UK does have some authoritarian tendencies that you might find jarring if you didn't know about them. Here's some quick examples:
- The Public Order Act 1986 is very heavy-handed and was put in to use against striking miners. Basically you can't do anything that other people might find 'alarming or distressing' in public (broadly construed).
- Various bits of anti-terrorism legislation have the net effect that you can be arrested simply for expressing support for a designated group. Groups are designated by parliament, so they are a function of politics to a greater or lesser extent. This is a conundrum if, for example, you want express your disagreement with a particular designation, which could in theory get you sent down for 10 years.
- Anti-terror legislation in general resulted in a lot of exceptions to long-held liberties and protections (i.e. how long you can be held without charge in custody, etcetera), which are generally not good.
- There is no right to silence if you are interviewed under caution by the police.
- The Malicious Communications Act is extremely broad and therefore you DO have to be careful what you say online, over the phone, or by letter even if you're not saying anything obviously illegal. The people who make images like this are upset because of people whipping up the hotel riots, which we can see the reasoning behind because it was a very dangerous and volatile situation. However, 2 years in the slammer for making a vague insinuations to your 3 followers is absurd given what certain politicians were saying on national radio.
- The new Online Safety Act gives OFCOM a lot of censorship power they haven't yet used. I'm concerned that if Farage or Farage-type figure gets control of it, the infrastructure is now there to make what is essentially a porn and adult themes ban much more sweeping.
- The distinction between the courts / justice system and the government is not very strong at all. This matter when we're talking about getting rid of jury trials for most cases. I worry about the 'fast track' systems that are put in place at the behest of the government following unrest, for example, after the 2010 riots, because I think courts and the CPS should be free of political pressure.
ETA: I don't know where they're getting 1689 from. The UK did not formally have anything you might describe as an enshrined right to freedom of expression until the late 90s.
1689 is the Glorious Revolution and the Bill of Rights of the same year. It is a well known year in Britain and Ireland.
Yeah that’s not a time when most people suddenly got rights pal
I know that. I am saying that 1689 is a year with obvious meaning to anyone in Britain.
We don't search people's social media history before letting them into the country.
Cromwell’s soldiers pillaged my hometown, and Hitler’s airmen bombed it. You can have your AI tombstone when Keir Starmer napalms the Tay Bridge.
Of course, if British Free Speech is dead, how do we have this meme? Someone call the Stasi!
You can get arrested for holding up a sign in support of Palestine action. Our free speech is heavily restricted
Isn't the UK becoming more American?
Palestine Action would like a word
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Is this sarcasm? I commend anyone brave enough to destroy military equipment while a genocide is going on.
Isnt it about child safety act which is in fact. Not for children's safety.
Freeze the peaches!
I think there's a broad consensus that free speech in the Uk has been reduced by libel and hate speech rulings.
They are right for the wrong reason, sad!
Anti-Israeli protestors have been arrested as anti-Semitic!!!
The right to protest is VERY IMPORTANT!!! THE PEOPLES VOICE IS VERY IMPORTANT!!! IT IS WRONG TO TAKE IT AWAY!!! VERY SAD THIS IS BEING USER TO FURTHER THE FAKE NEWS AGENDA OF RIGHT WINGERS BEING OPPRESSED!!! FREE SPEECH ALL AROUND THE WORLD WHERE IT LIVES IS IN DANGER THANKS TO HORRIBLE LAWS LIKE ONLINE SAFETY ACT AND OTHERS!!! USE YOUR VOICE!!! WESTERN PEOPLE ARE LUCKY TO HAVE THEM AND WE MUST KEEP IT NO MATTER WHAT!!!
THANK YOU FOR PAYING ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER!!!
What happened in 1689?
This is so melodramatic it made me laugh
Once again coming from one of the conservative safe spaces, that censors any dissenting opinion.
OH MY GOD I LAUGHED SO HARD I SCARED MY DOGS
Since when have twitter ratios EVER mattered??? Well, to anyone that isn't a crybaby neonazi?
These people are allowed to vote, drive, drink alcohol, have children, and go out in public without some form of monitoring device, by the way.
Just sayin'.
This person thinks twitter is leftist, wow
"Why cant we be racist bellends without getting any negative blowback from it? free speech is dead" - Men painting roundabouts.
The Paradox of Tolerance.
This is a problem in the United States.
We say “free speech” and let people scream all kinds of hate and lies, because “we’re a tolerant society and everyone should respect each other’s views.
Now, however, the hateful are in charge and they are trying to clamp down on anyone saying anything against them.
All part of Russian game plan. And it’s so easy!
This has to be a joke post but seeing as that sub posted it they took it seriously.
When Elon musk can put his thumb on the scales at Twitter, a Twitter ratio means nothing.
Let me guess. They are decrying free speech because they think that free speech means the freedom to threaten entire groups of people without consequences.
Americans seem obsessed with this narrative I don't know why
Just because the conservatives say it, doesnt make it untrue lmao what. The UK has a massive problem with authoritarianism and taking away free speech is a big part of that. People are getting arrested for opposing genocide. How is that NOT anti-free speech? Jesus christ
I feel like the image itself is satire that's been missed by the person who posted which both tracks and makes me laugh
Try telling that to the True UnpopularOpinions subreddit
"I have no free speech" He says without being punished for saying it.
The UK is a more free country than the USA by a considerable margin
It seems some people don’t know that almost all EU (or ex EU) democracies constitutions prohibit hate speech or calls to acts of violence.
Generally speaking: “your freedom stops where other people’s freedom begins.”
Why is it so hard to understand?
I always love it when people that live in democratic countries whine about living in a dictatorship. Here in germany we also have a lot of people like this. I always think: "Dude, if you were living in a dictatorship you wouldn't even be allowed to post that"
They arrest peaceful protestors including ones speaking out against a genocide in Palestine
They made it mandatory to show your id to fully use social media
They arrest people for social media posts even if not related to violence at all
Lol "People didn't click like on my Twitter post - RIP freeze peach"
I hate it when Brits call the Battle over Britain the “Blitz”. If it’s in reference to Blitzkrieg, Germany never had any forces on land to do what they called “Bewegungskrieg”. It’s nationalistic self-aggrandizement, it’s nothing more than ego boosting.