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They want us to use dialogue because anything they introduce to a dialogue becomes something to consider, rather than something to reject.
Example: By introducing trans rights as a dialogue, they also introduce the arguments against it, and take the subject from something obvious to something disputed, thus making bullshit claims against the subject seem legitimate rather than bullshit.
This. In the UK access to abortions is just a fact of life and not remotely a political hot topic
Bar a minority of religious types, no one is seriously trying to repeal it and it’s just not part of political discourse.
That is, until recently. Our Russia-sponsored, Trump-loving Reform party keeps tying to start “a conversation” about it, along with some evangelical US-funded Christian groups.
They’re not outright calling for abortion bans, because that wouldn’t be taken seriously here, but they’re trying to nudge the Overton window with the obvious intention of making us end up like the US.
Fuck these people. You give them an inch and they will take a mile.
That's assuming there's a dialogue. The American fascist conservative right debate style has dissolved into proved me wrong. in addition to the wonderful Gish gallop debate method of rapid fire what about questions?
Yeah, it’s not going to take Skydance and Bari Weiss long to burn through whatever goodwill the non-MAGAs had for CBS. Just one spoonful of MAGA bullshit talking points after the next. They can fight with the Fox News and Newsmax viewers for that market share, because a lot of people are going to get tired of this nonsense super fast. Expect plenty more ratings flops like the Erica Kirk special interview.
Is this for fucking real? I’ve been a BOA customer for over two decades. Multiple loans and high value accounts during that time. They can fuck right off with this shit!
Here’s the thing and why it’s wrong to even start dialogues about this: the arguments made are NEVER in good faith. Happened with Kirk, Crowder, Shapiro, and every conservative talking head, all of it was motivated and with no desire to create a dialogue.
These grifters want you to get mad at them, cause it puts them in a position of power. They only debated on college campuses because actually fully educated would annihilate their arguments with ease. Once people realized this, most stopped performing at college campuses.
This. It's always based in bad faith arguing. They are not trying to change their own minds, they want you to change yours, and if that doesnt happen, they at least "trolled" you by wasting your time.
If it wasn't for feminism, Bari Weiss wouldn't be in the professional position that she's in now. Nothing like shitting all over the very movement and people who fought for her right to rise beyond just a secretarial role
It takes just one Conservative in charge to utterly destroy an institution and the public's trust in it. And if you then think, we, the people, will just have no choice but to trust the Conservatives; you have no grasp on history either.
This is gonna fall flat. Who is the boss? Bari Weiss. Feminism failed and you’re the boss?🤣🤣
Again idk what Weiss is doing. It’s confusing CBS was already the Boomer Network they will never beat the allegations.
And no you can’t have civil discourse with MAGA. If you’re nonwhite or LGBT they don’t want you to draw breath. 🤷🏾♀️ I can’t have civil discourse with people that think I am a subhuman that I eat pets that I kill babies even after they’re born that I’m a demon and that I am a lizard person. This is what they actually think so no. Y’all can talk to yourselves about it like yall have been doing. 🤣
their first attempt at a MAGAverse "town hall" seems to have been an enormous failure, so of course it makes sense to double down.
you'd think the Ellisons would be more mindful of cash flow given that Oracle stocks just dived.
I live in the UK and I pay for the TV licence (at least for now) - it is a shame that some small amount of my money heads in CBS's direction as they are the BBC's "US news partner"
Other than football and Colbert I don’t watch CBS anymore. Football will be done in 7 weeks and Colbert shortly after, so I will have months to ignore CBS.
With these people (key word, THESE grifters, not remotely all people on the right wing), the easiest thing to do is simply either not engage to begin with to not let them feel anything but shame for believing what they believe. Shame is key for them, whereas for common folk on the right, empathy and “speaking the language” so-to-speak is FAR more effective.
Oh, so now that CBS is run by Bari Weiss, they're now producing their segments "in conjunction with the free press" - The media company created by Bari Weiss? Didn't see that one coming!
Ah yes, all my favorite civil discourse must be sponsored by a multinational bank and conducted by fucking Bari Weiss. Surely both these parties have my best interest in mind!
I really hope this shit backfires but I fear there’s too many Fox News consuming tools who will eat this shit up.
Elevating bad faith shitbirds is directly why we are here right now. Giving their opinions equal weight as reasonable ones was a huge mistake. Weiss, who couldn’t even break 2,000 views prior to this, will be just one more nail in corporate medias coffin and I’m on board for that.
Woman can live independently today thanks to feminism. Wasn't that long ago the only two options for women were to marry an abusive asshole or become a nun.
Hell, Women gained the legal right to apply for and receive credit cards in their own name without a male co-signer in 1974.
Funnily enough, Bank of America just a month ago FINALLY regained all their stock losses since the 2008 financial meltdown. So almost 18 years to finally get back to where they were and now they are funding this and similar "debates". There are many other banks out there.
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Sorry CBS, but I refuse to start a dialogue with the people who keep voting for the asshole.
Making things more fascist isn't going to win you new friends or converts.
They want us to use dialogue because they use the dialogue to gain power and eventually end dialogue.
Omg, this right here. They are forcing you into their logic.
We have to abandon these people, they are trash.
They want us to use dialogue because anything they introduce to a dialogue becomes something to consider, rather than something to reject.
Example: By introducing trans rights as a dialogue, they also introduce the arguments against it, and take the subject from something obvious to something disputed, thus making bullshit claims against the subject seem legitimate rather than bullshit.
Not everything needs to have a dialogue.
This. In the UK access to abortions is just a fact of life and not remotely a political hot topic
Bar a minority of religious types, no one is seriously trying to repeal it and it’s just not part of political discourse.
That is, until recently. Our Russia-sponsored, Trump-loving Reform party keeps tying to start “a conversation” about it, along with some evangelical US-funded Christian groups.
They’re not outright calling for abortion bans, because that wouldn’t be taken seriously here, but they’re trying to nudge the Overton window with the obvious intention of making us end up like the US.
Fuck these people. You give them an inch and they will take a mile.
The Paradox of Tolerance.
Oh hey, it's "free speech warrior" Charlie Kirk!
That's assuming there's a dialogue. The American fascist conservative right debate style has dissolved into proved me wrong. in addition to the wonderful Gish gallop debate method of rapid fire what about questions?
Yeah, it’s not going to take Skydance and Bari Weiss long to burn through whatever goodwill the non-MAGAs had for CBS. Just one spoonful of MAGA bullshit talking points after the next. They can fight with the Fox News and Newsmax viewers for that market share, because a lot of people are going to get tired of this nonsense super fast. Expect plenty more ratings flops like the Erica Kirk special interview.
Wow, Bank of America really knows what the people want🙄
The “silent majority” aka “loud minority” want this lol
Loud plurality now, unfortunately.
Is this for fucking real? I’ve been a BOA customer for over two decades. Multiple loans and high value accounts during that time. They can fuck right off with this shit!
Here’s the thing and why it’s wrong to even start dialogues about this: the arguments made are NEVER in good faith. Happened with Kirk, Crowder, Shapiro, and every conservative talking head, all of it was motivated and with no desire to create a dialogue.
Yep I debated a guy just the other day over collage essays. Wasted 4 days. He just kept insisting on hypothetical scenarios and moving the goal posts.
It's all theater, cultish screeching, or insults with maga types.
These grifters want you to get mad at them, cause it puts them in a position of power. They only debated on college campuses because actually fully educated would annihilate their arguments with ease. Once people realized this, most stopped performing at college campuses.
They stomp on people’s throats and cry about being persecuted
YEP. 100 fkn percent!
This. It's always based in bad faith arguing. They are not trying to change their own minds, they want you to change yours, and if that doesnt happen, they at least "trolled" you by wasting your time.
Also see: sealioning
Oh wow Bank of America …..
Right? Might even be more effective to blast out THEIR involvement in and support of this shit.
Yea I tried civil discourse. It dose not work with MAGA. Wasted 4 days debating with a guy over collage essay grading.
there is no civil discourse because this is all right wing. Bari Weiss the free press all right wing. its propaganda not discourse
Likely to be the usual Bari Weiss "I'm a centrist but uncomfortable with leftist ideology" drivel.
Bank of America sponsored 🤮
The fact that the right is still vilifying feminism means feminism was/is beneficial to women!!!
If it wasn't for feminism, Bari Weiss wouldn't be in the professional position that she's in now. Nothing like shitting all over the very movement and people who fought for her right to rise beyond just a secretarial role
She's trying to pull up the ladder.
Reminds me of those immigrants who suddenly become anti-immigrant as soon as they become U.S. citizens. Same energy.
No, no, no, SHE rose to the top via merit, while everyone else got a free ride.
Serena Joying herself.
It's probably going to have one good point and stretch that point to justify why women shouldn't have rights without actually saying it
It takes just one Conservative in charge to utterly destroy an institution and the public's trust in it. And if you then think, we, the people, will just have no choice but to trust the Conservatives; you have no grasp on history either.
Oh man, I just looked at their IG feed and they are sucking vance, the orange turd and altman's wieners.
Reminder: Bank of America is predatory.
Wow this feels unreal, Is there a link to this tweet?
here
This is gonna fall flat. Who is the boss? Bari Weiss. Feminism failed and you’re the boss?🤣🤣
Again idk what Weiss is doing. It’s confusing CBS was already the Boomer Network they will never beat the allegations.
And no you can’t have civil discourse with MAGA. If you’re nonwhite or LGBT they don’t want you to draw breath. 🤷🏾♀️ I can’t have civil discourse with people that think I am a subhuman that I eat pets that I kill babies even after they’re born that I’m a demon and that I am a lizard person. This is what they actually think so no. Y’all can talk to yourselves about it like yall have been doing. 🤣
This will bomb in the ratings, the left isnt going to give a fuck and CBS isnt going to be pulling the MAGA audience.
They're not trying to get a MAGAt audience. They're trying to push people on the fence towards MAGA.
Brought to you by Bank of America. Lol.
I can't believe people still fall for this shit.
They can join CNN in bankruptcy.
Who the **** watches anything on CBS who isn't elderly?
And these fucks want to buy CNN as well. Isn't this nice?
Time to boycott Bank of America
It was time to boycott BofA many years ago, but I guess the second best time is now.
their first attempt at a MAGAverse "town hall" seems to have been an enormous failure, so of course it makes sense to double down.
you'd think the Ellisons would be more mindful of cash flow given that Oracle stocks just dived.
I live in the UK and I pay for the TV licence (at least for now) - it is a shame that some small amount of my money heads in CBS's direction as they are the BBC's "US news partner"
What is a CBS? /s
Other than football and Colbert I don’t watch CBS anymore. Football will be done in 7 weeks and Colbert shortly after, so I will have months to ignore CBS.
With these people (key word, THESE grifters, not remotely all people on the right wing), the easiest thing to do is simply either not engage to begin with to not let them feel anything but shame for believing what they believe. Shame is key for them, whereas for common folk on the right, empathy and “speaking the language” so-to-speak is FAR more effective.
I"m not interesting in watching Constant Bari Shilling (CBS) with its MAGA mouthpieces ever again.
CBS News has been lost.
Oh lawd how embarrassing for CBS
Media literacy: if the headline is a question then the answer is no. It's just an opinion piece to try to upset people for the sake of
cultscontent."In conjunction with the Free Press" seems like a conflict of interest. Isn't she part owner of the Free Press?
great. now we got jubilee in steroids.
Oh, so now that CBS is run by Bari Weiss, they're now producing their segments "in conjunction with the free press" - The media company created by Bari Weiss? Didn't see that one coming!
If they have a town hall with the title, "Are chemtrails real or are those who believe in them just hopelessly naive?"
Brb, time to get my money out of Bank of America....
Ah yes, all my favorite civil discourse must be sponsored by a multinational bank and conducted by fucking Bari Weiss. Surely both these parties have my best interest in mind!
I really hope this shit backfires but I fear there’s too many Fox News consuming tools who will eat this shit up.
And it’s just people describing how some mothers are overworked between home/work responsibilities because their male partners don’t share the load
Elevating bad faith shitbirds is directly why we are here right now. Giving their opinions equal weight as reasonable ones was a huge mistake. Weiss, who couldn’t even break 2,000 views prior to this, will be just one more nail in corporate medias coffin and I’m on board for that.
Legacy media has been dead for a while now. CBS lost its relevance long ago. The internet reports news in real time.
How can it be "truth-seeking" when the questions will lead to subjective answers?
Oh this should be fun.
Introducing Newspeak
How very 1984 of them.
Gravity: let’s hear both sides of the debate
CBS News is now Jubilee.
Cunts.
Bari Weiss has, that is certain.
Woman can live independently today thanks to feminism. Wasn't that long ago the only two options for women were to marry an abusive asshole or become a nun.
Hell, Women gained the legal right to apply for and receive credit cards in their own name without a male co-signer in 1974.
The dialogue they want to have is always "Is MAGA really correct about everything after all?" and the answer is always "Yes."
Funnily enough, Bank of America just a month ago FINALLY regained all their stock losses since the 2008 financial meltdown. So almost 18 years to finally get back to where they were and now they are funding this and similar "debates". There are many other banks out there.