I hate what Punpun has become, but I don't blame him for it. The kid never had a good chance, and all the adults failed him. I feel much more sorry for Aiko, though. She suffered her whole life living in this cult and with an abusive stepmother. And the one person she hoped could save her ended up abusing her just as much.

yeah, it kinda always confused me the grace Aiko gets from fans when we dont see her inner dialog at all. I see why some assume the best, but it's kinda annoying that the best is treated like the absolute truth when it is left ambiguous. On my first reading, I interpreted them much more equally than I think a lot of other readers on the sub did lmao

I feel sorry for both of them, talking with my girlfriend she hates punpun but she straight up told me it may be some genre perspective

They're both victims and they're both not good people, largely as a consequence of their poor upbringing and environment. 

tell em

Tbh I feel like people forget quickly how the message of the manga is that everyone has a bad , really bad , side of themselves that is only allowed to exist by them being a victim of abuse repeatedly.

Yeah I saw someone blame Aiko’s death on Punpun but, while he was certainly a catalyst, she literally took her own life. And by that point Punpun was trying to reverse the damage to an extent.

Of course, he was not a safe presence for her, so you can say he had put her in too dangerous a situation. But also Aiko was the one who killed her mother AND made Punpun think he did it. They were both manipulating and abusing each other and acting like Punpun was the only one responsible denied Aiko any agency.

Yes.

Both of them are terrible

Yeah I hated Aiko's guts back then. I hated Punpun's too lol. And yeah I understand where they come from but I just couldn't bring myself to love them even though I feel so damn sorry for them :")

Aiko was raped, not to mention physically and psychologically abused by him on multiple occasions

His presence is caustic to her, and his self absorbed, uncaring behaviour is the reason why she killed herself

The hotel rape is the catalyst that started everything and it's entirely Punpun's fault. Hell, look at how he treats her when they have normal sex for the first time

punpun abused aiko to the point where she became reactive. after a life of being abused she meets the boy she was inlove with and the first thing he does is almost raping her. She had mental issues but dude seriously punpun is the villan of the story and it’s pretty obvious. Aiko also only stabbed punpun once and he was the one to literally ask her to do it. Reading comprehension these days huh

They're both victims but Punpun used Aiko for letting all of the darkness inside him come out. Aiko went through a shitty life too and she didn't became the monster Punpun is, you're forgetting part of the message inside the manga: not because you had a terrible life you need to be a terrible person. You can see the example in both Aiko and Seki. The thing is, Aiko was in an incredibly vulnerable state and Punpun abused her in every way possible because she had nowhere else to run away. Punpun never did something because of her, every interaction they have is Punpun expressing his selfish and violent desires using her as vehicle to do so. Throughout the whole manga you understand the path Punpun goes for but that doesn't take any of the responsibility we put in an abuser who committed horrible things to a girl.

OP is just an incel

I see them as an unit of disgrace

after all in the Tanabata Vega and Altair are eternally separated lovers.

I find that a lot of males tend blame for Punpun and show empathy towards Aiko. I honestly believe that they are both toxic horrible people with no real guidance in life on how to handle issues. They were both horrible to each other and they were both abusing each other