this genuinely happened in a recent game of mine. i recall what the banned heroes were, but i sort of just guessed at the fav heroes part since i forget what those were. wish i had screen-capped this
Nah, some people fav a hero but put him in a ban list because if that hero doesn't get banned, they will play it, but they preferred this hero to be banned. I don't fully get it either, because putting it in the fav list prevents most teammates from banning it but I dunno. This is the explanation I got from one teammate one time
I can actually understand that. Like for example a tank player feeling pressured to play zarya or sig almost every match even if they'd rather just play some other rank, so they try to get it banned, but if it doesn't go through, they just deal with the zarya/sig jail in game.
I do this with Dva simply because people ban D.Vas counters so often. People will ban all the best counters to Dva and then wont play her. And then get stomped by an enemy team Dva who has free reign the whole game. If you ban her counters you better pick her otherwise im banning her lol
I've noticed people banning heroes they see their team is banning. Which it kinda makes sense.
If your teammate has trouble against a hero you should ban them to help them
Same. I dont have any other ban preferences usually. I dont want to handicap the other team, that doesn't make me a better player. But I also dont want my tank miserable while I heal him
I always vote based on the map foremost and what’s going to be the biggest challenge for the character I want to play. Based on my votes vs my teammates usual votes I must be in the minority lol
I think it's more people banning because a specific character is the counterswap to their main and they can't be bothered to learn another character.
I mean I was playing Practice vs AI the other day and some guy chose Tracer who was apparently level 101 meanwhile his other two "most played" were a level 5 Mercy and a level 8 Ana.
Soooo Zarya being banned for example is most likely from salty D.VA's and Orisa mains kind of thing since neither of them can block her beam.
I would say that Zarya is most of the time banned because she is purely annoying due to fact you cannot be sure will your team focus her when she bubbles or when team wont be focusing no one will shoot her
Same for Sombra because she is annoying af and no one wanna fight with fucking mosquito who has out of a jail card and can cut off you mid ULT wasting it while it takes no skill
Zarya is banned because she is free wins in metal ranks 99% of the time. No one there knows what to do against her and she steamrolls. Coming from a metal rank btw.
Someone decided it would be a good idea to take like top 3 most universally hated ability types in pvp gaming (point-and-click cc, invisibility, get-out-of-jail-free disengage) and give them to a single hero.
A hero whose entire kit is meant to be annoying can never work in gamemodes with bans. When even losing against other heroes feels more fun and interactive than winning against sombra, she'll always be top ban in every rank where people play to have fun, even if her wr dropped below 30%.
Players across all games ever do not like agency taken from them. It's rarely ever been fun when it happens. If the game goes "here are your resources and here is how you manage them" it's going to suck when it then goes "ok now you're randomly going to lose access to all of these things and you just have to wait it out and hope you dont lose."
Sombra's entire kit is taking away agency. Even if it's a split second, nobody likes all of their abilities taken away. They also like to use their eyes and ears to plan ahead. Sombra can be invisible and completely silent until she engages, meaning unless you predict where she is you wont be able to act first, only react.
Either one of those is annoying. Both in one character as their standard gameplay loop crosses the line into being entirely unfun. Even if played poorly it's annoying.
I like Sombra and play her occasionally in qp when I group with friends but I do realize I'm not making anyone's day better except me and my team by doing that.
Until she loses one of those things she'll keep catching bans even if she is objectively bad in even the most capable hands. If we had hero bans since the start of OW1 I can promise Mei would be banned because not a single soul except the player liked her on-demand ability to freeze people completely.
You know, if the opposing team chooses a secret third DPS ban, that Vendetta ban isn’t going through. Y’all really thought Sombra was more worthy of a ban than Vendetta?
The character can be annoying as hell to play against and /or since a lot of people still don't really know how to play her well, some people ban her just so there's no risk of a vendetta on their team just learning and ending the match 0/20
(Especially annoying if vendetta is paired with a zarya that constantly bubbles them)
not true. that’s a factor but that’s not why hero bans were added to the game. most games have hero bans so the players can ban the meta heroes and heroes they find annoying
so how does this apply to high elo? do they also not want to learn? lol. it’s not true at all i know how to deal with sombra and zarya i just don’t want the headache, so i ban them. metas depend on rank, sombra is really good in low elo so she’s banned.
no you’re just making a strawman argument. bans don’t exist solely because of one tricks, majority of the players in this game (including myself) aren’t one tricks and can play many heroes.
Hard agree. I always try to troll ban my own teammates because the system is dumb and lets you. Bans just make the game more comfortable for bad players.
"The true enemy comes from within."
~Zen, probably
smh bro that happens to me all the time like how am i supposed to remember all that
betrayal never comes from the enemy
Zens goals are beyond our understanding
He wanted to see if he was worthy of his pick
He showing mercy to his enemies
Hey man as a Zen I dont want to fight another Zen, this is just 200% iq
He understands who his worst enemy is
himself?
naturally
I don't know?
Please tell me whyyyyyyyy
My car is in the front yard
AND I'M
"The true battle lies within"
-Zenyatta
he was warning u not to release the beast within him
Zen probably thought Hero Preference was the ban, and seeing the other peoples ban choices elected to ban Zenyatter again because who gives a fuck
Nah, some people fav a hero but put him in a ban list because if that hero doesn't get banned, they will play it, but they preferred this hero to be banned. I don't fully get it either, because putting it in the fav list prevents most teammates from banning it but I dunno. This is the explanation I got from one teammate one time
I can actually understand that. Like for example a tank player feeling pressured to play zarya or sig almost every match even if they'd rather just play some other rank, so they try to get it banned, but if it doesn't go through, they just deal with the zarya/sig jail in game.
Me queuing Sombra.
Me queuing Kiri and Ana
I do this with Dva simply because people ban D.Vas counters so often. People will ban all the best counters to Dva and then wont play her. And then get stomped by an enemy team Dva who has free reign the whole game. If you ban her counters you better pick her otherwise im banning her lol
Canonical Pacifict Zenyatta
Who said he is a pacifist?
He sure talks like ond
He definitely doesn’t kick like one
“What makes you think I am a pacifist?” -Zenyatta
Biblically accurate Zenyatta.
Either he it was for fun become he know zen won't be banned or Kid who don't know what is this think he have to confirm again
Based of the teams picks Zen being banned was still a possibility if the other team had first ban and chose Sombra and Zarya.
"You are your worst enemy."
Zenyatta players have a great sense of humor and you're never ready for it 😂
A Moira should be able to take out a Sombra
Bro you ban for others as well, if I see a zen on my team, I'd 100% ban sombra for them
Well clearly Zen wanted to ban himself lol
Or just help your fellow support out and scare off the Sombra? It’s not hard especially with Moira
I see so many people select preferred heroes that counter Sombra only to vote to ban her. It’s infuriating
The worst I saw was a Junkrat banning Sombra/Ball/Doomfist and then got screwed by Echo + Pharah/Mercy. And he never switched of course.
I main Kiri in masters and still ban her. Just isn't fun.
now i understand the doomers when they talk about the average person
I've noticed people banning heroes they see their team is banning. Which it kinda makes sense. If your teammate has trouble against a hero you should ban them to help them
I usually follow my tank's bans.
Same. I dont have any other ban preferences usually. I dont want to handicap the other team, that doesn't make me a better player. But I also dont want my tank miserable while I heal him
I always vote based on the map foremost and what’s going to be the biggest challenge for the character I want to play. Based on my votes vs my teammates usual votes I must be in the minority lol
I think it's more people banning because a specific character is the counterswap to their main and they can't be bothered to learn another character.
I mean I was playing Practice vs AI the other day and some guy chose Tracer who was apparently level 101 meanwhile his other two "most played" were a level 5 Mercy and a level 8 Ana.
Soooo Zarya being banned for example is most likely from salty D.VA's and Orisa mains kind of thing since neither of them can block her beam.
I would say that Zarya is most of the time banned because she is purely annoying due to fact you cannot be sure will your team focus her when she bubbles or when team wont be focusing no one will shoot her
Same for Sombra because she is annoying af and no one wanna fight with fucking mosquito who has out of a jail card and can cut off you mid ULT wasting it while it takes no skill
Zarya is banned because she is free wins in metal ranks 99% of the time. No one there knows what to do against her and she steamrolls. Coming from a metal rank btw.
she’s also really strong in high elo and gets banned a lot there
Hold me back bro
bro was high and thought he was on hero select 😢
Can someone explain why Sombra has a 90% ban rate even though she got nerfed?
People dont like turning around.
Those people should play farmville.
Annoying
Someone decided it would be a good idea to take like top 3 most universally hated ability types in pvp gaming (point-and-click cc, invisibility, get-out-of-jail-free disengage) and give them to a single hero.
A hero whose entire kit is meant to be annoying can never work in gamemodes with bans. When even losing against other heroes feels more fun and interactive than winning against sombra, she'll always be top ban in every rank where people play to have fun, even if her wr dropped below 30%.
Players across all games ever do not like agency taken from them. It's rarely ever been fun when it happens. If the game goes "here are your resources and here is how you manage them" it's going to suck when it then goes "ok now you're randomly going to lose access to all of these things and you just have to wait it out and hope you dont lose."
Sombra's entire kit is taking away agency. Even if it's a split second, nobody likes all of their abilities taken away. They also like to use their eyes and ears to plan ahead. Sombra can be invisible and completely silent until she engages, meaning unless you predict where she is you wont be able to act first, only react.
Either one of those is annoying. Both in one character as their standard gameplay loop crosses the line into being entirely unfun. Even if played poorly it's annoying.
I like Sombra and play her occasionally in qp when I group with friends but I do realize I'm not making anyone's day better except me and my team by doing that.
Until she loses one of those things she'll keep catching bans even if she is objectively bad in even the most capable hands. If we had hero bans since the start of OW1 I can promise Mei would be banned because not a single soul except the player liked her on-demand ability to freeze people completely.
Invis
That one Office GIF where they all point at each other with finger guns
This man doesn’t even believe in himself
To confuse thy enemy you must confuse one’s self first- zen
"I must protect the enemies from me"
Why do ppl hate zarya?
Zen trying to ban Zen lol
we're still banning Sombra? yawn
Was it a plat 4 game? Cause either I was in that game or I’ve seen it happen
He's too powerful!
This was the only way to nerf this unstoppable force
You know, if the opposing team chooses a secret third DPS ban, that Vendetta ban isn’t going through. Y’all really thought Sombra was more worthy of a ban than Vendetta?
Yes, because Vendetta isn't a good ban
Hah i think that was me. I always do that
Harmony
Theyre giving the enemy team a chance
Even Zen recognizes how annoying and debilitating discord orb is.
This happens to me sometimes, hahaha
As a Zarya main, I hate comp rn. Lmao.
aura ban
I had a match where someone called, I believe, IhateSombra picked Sombra and wanted to ban.... Sombra
They're playing SombraWatch, she's the only hero
The way I’ve heard other ppl explain it before. “I don’t wanna go against one but if it isn’t banned, I’ll play it.”
Okay that took me a moment...
No but lowkey tho. As a tank player, getting discorded is basically a death mark and I just run and hide
The Zen ban is coming from inside the house
Why does everyone keep blocking Vendetta? I never get to play her in competitive
The character can be annoying as hell to play against and /or since a lot of people still don't really know how to play her well, some people ban her just so there's no risk of a vendetta on their team just learning and ending the match 0/20
(Especially annoying if vendetta is paired with a zarya that constantly bubbles them)
Highest win rate
They suck
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Wish we could ban 6 heroes. 3 for each team.
When 20 new heroes are added sure.
I haven’t been able to play vendetta in a fucken week
Good
This system seriously needs to be removed..
System is good... Better for sure than what Marvel Rivals had
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not true. that’s a factor but that’s not why hero bans were added to the game. most games have hero bans so the players can ban the meta heroes and heroes they find annoying
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so how does this apply to high elo? do they also not want to learn? lol. it’s not true at all i know how to deal with sombra and zarya i just don’t want the headache, so i ban them. metas depend on rank, sombra is really good in low elo so she’s banned.
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no you’re just making a strawman argument. bans don’t exist solely because of one tricks, majority of the players in this game (including myself) aren’t one tricks and can play many heroes.
Found the Sombra player
Hard agree. I always try to troll ban my own teammates because the system is dumb and lets you. Bans just make the game more comfortable for bad players.