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BAHAHAHA I KNOW GETTING NAILED IN THE CERVIX REPEATEDLY IS 👏NOT 👏IT 👏
LIKE lemme hit him in the balls a few times.
See if maybe he needs info from a book about it or some additional education. Or maybe he’ll be able to tell me straight up that getting smashed in the balls isn’t pleasurable
I mean sure to some pain is pleasure but let’s not get it twisted
Getting punched in the cervix by a dick= PAIN.
Also girth GODS FOR THE WIN. Fuck length over 7 inches it’s just not necessary. Why people focus on length I’ll never know.
We know some like, under 25 year old guy wrote this - or a man who paid too much for a botched penis surgery where they inject fat into it or summat (that’s a real thing by the way, also cutting the tendon that keeps it suspended so it looks longer so they literally have to hold their dicks up with their hands. Men be odd sometimes)
We should test his hypothesis because he saw it in porn that means it's true. "I saw a guy that liked getting bapped in the nuts, so it's obviously a fact you do too, Bradley" 😅
Cervical stimulation is intensely pleasurable for some women. It's... Not really like a pap smear. And most women don't like it at all, most women find it painful.
Some women like anterior and/or posterior fornix stim instead and some like all of those (anterior and posterior fornix and cervix, I mean). Some women don't like any.
I think most women either don't like any deep stim or maybe they do enjoy some of it but it's not significantly more enjoyable than clitoral and/or g-spot stimulation?
Like he's the tiniest bit right in that some women really enjoy deep penetration but it's absolutely absurd to claim that most women secretly do and just won't admit or it just don't know what they like. Most women who do enjoy that and have partners who can't reach just use toys or have their partners use toys on them. They don't usually hide it and do it in secret, they share that with their partners and don't have a problem admitting that's what they like.
There are size queens but I've never seen one who would reject a whole ass good man because he has to use toys to get her off instead of his dick. I'm sure they exist but this guy is acting like that's actually common or like the only thing stopping most women is social censure and no chief we just tend to care about other people as whole ass people, not walking penii. Especially when good men are kinda hard to find but sex toys are readily available.
It's also a weird attitude when most women.. prefer things other than straight up penetration anyway. Like it's pretty common to prefer oral or a vibrator or something to just PIV, especially for orgasm. Deep stim doesn't really introduce a new variable there even if it's something a woman is just finding out about. His whole rationale appears to be centered on the idea that women care about dicks in general much more than most of them do, because that's his primary concern with sex-- he's basically just projecting, unable to accept the basic fact that it's really not the primary driver of sexual satisfaction for us.
Which is sad imo. Dude is gonna feel inadequate and get bent out of shape over shit he's literally making up in his own head. If he would just consider that maybe he's wrong and maybe women know better than him what we ourselves like he'd save himself a world of trouble and pain.
The percentage proportion of women who enjoy this type of deep stimulation is astronomically small. Like more than 2 standard deviations away from norm minimum. These women are vastly outliers. Science for the win
Also I'm finding 16% of women report enjoyment of it from a study. It's not large-scale so it's possible that doesn't directly translate to the same proportion of the population but I'm betting it's more than 1% of the total population, given that, too.
I... Did say that it's not common. Uncommon usually means two standard deviations away, or that's what I recall from stats. Or some synonym therefore. That's also why I covered a lot more than just cervical stimulation in my comment.
OOPs comments were about deep penetration or stimulation so it... Is relevant to acknowledge that yes there are women who like various forms of deep penetration/stimulation. That's why I addressed those things.
Even insofar as this is true though there was a lot wrong with his comments -- but I have to address that in the context of the truth. I'm not defending the dude, he got like maybe one percent of what he said right, but it's sensible to acknowledge the very slight accuracy he did stumble upon.
I'm aware it's very rare -- I'm one of the women who enjoys all of the above, cervical, anterior and posterior fornix stim. As someone who does enjoy it I wanted to point out that it's very different to a pap smear -- the women who do dislike it might find the sensations similar, I guess, I don't know because I'm not one of them, but I can say that as someone who does like it, the sensation of cervical stimulation during sex with a penis is quite different to a pap smear.
I just wanted to point that out because I didn't want the women who don't like it to think that's what I'm enjoying. I mean it's not going to hurt me if they think that but it would be incorrect and thus potentially cause misunderstandings if we discussed that more or if they discussed it with someone else who enjoys it. Pap smears aren't horrible to me, though, either, which I think is also worth pointing out.
I also wanted to say what I said because I do see a fair number of women even here who don't know that they have an anterior or posterior fornix or think that they're the cervix, when indicated on a diagram. That also causes unnecessary misunderstanding. Most people know e.g. the vulva isn't the vagina, we have labia majora and minora, the clitoris has erectile tissue and most of its structure is large and internal/hidden/deep and it has crural aspects and all of that but a lot of people don't know about the fornices.
I figured they were worth denoting because if someone doesn't know they have them they might not think to try stimulation thereof and that is a more common area of enjoyment. Maybe some people learn about them and try it and find it very pleasurable. That's why I acknowledged that initially too-- but again even when this is the case the OOP was wrong so that was the other reason I said it, because it supports the general argument that he's wrong.
I also think that it works better to prove against OOP by acknowledging the incredibly minor way in which he's right than simply dismissing his assertion wholesale. He wasn't talking about cervical stimulation but more about the fornices, iirc, but if I'm going to argue then I'm going to be accurate and include the actual range of things people enjoy and not just say 'oh well this isn't common so we don't have to consider it at all'... Especially when the topic was deep penetration.
If I overgeneralized and said most women like it that would be one thing but I didn't. And I see so many people here saying that no one likes it and making fun of the very idea which might be somewhat unpleasant to hear for the people who do like it-- the way some people talk makes it sound like there's something wrong with women for enjoying that. I don't see how it's unfair to the women who don't to acknowledge that a minority does though. That's literally just being inclusive instead of dismissive.
OP said there's so much wrong that they didn't know where to begin. I just pointed out everything that is wrong with it. I thought that would be validating to everyone else who knows it's wrong and potentially useful in case anyone encounters a similar belief, as there you go there's a ready made argument against everything that's wrong. Provided the speaker is receptive, of course.
Heh, I mean he seems to have been projecting in general -- I think he just can't understand that penii aren't that important to most women where orgasm is concerned, seriously, and probably in part because that's the most important thing to him, and of course partially just because that's what he's seen in porn and it's a popular sociocultural narrative especially from other men-- and that's kinda just an extension of this. It wouldn't surprise me if he isn't in control of himself sexually and does have some sort of a compulsion towards whatever he finds most enjoyable.
And I could say that phrasing it that way sounds really dismissive of the people who find it pleasurable, like myself.
As I stated elsewhere the point I was making is that even insofar as some women do enjoy various aspects of deep penetration (I'm pretty sure I mentioned that enjoying cervical stimulation is rarer than enjoying stimulation of the fornices and that the latter is also uncommon, and I think I said that most women find it painful... but if I used different words initially then my apologies) he's very wrong about literally everything else. Even insofar as some women do enjoy what he's talking about it doesn't translate into just wanting a huge penis, for so many reasons.
I... Can't properly rebut his argument there without acknowledging that yes deep penetration is a thing some people enjoy. I also focused more on the fornices because again those are more commonly enjoyed and I see a fair amount of comments even here where people are either conflating them with the cervix or unaware of their existence.
Oh and googling yields a result of 16% from a randomized study (though it was small-scale so it's possible that doesn't directly translate to the population at large-- even so I still suspect it's more than basically no one). Apparently 16% of women enjoy cervical stimulation. So that's not infinitesimal.
It sounds like you're saying that women have different sexual preferences and the best course of action is to treat women as individuals and work collaboratively to make sex a mutually enjoyable experience?
Why is this the first time I'm hearing of this!? /s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s
The a spot, the anterior fornix, can be an erogenous zone for some people. The thing is you don't need a big dick to reach it; it can also be stimulated with fingers and toys
Pair bonding is a thing in humans too, but not in the way that these dudes understand.
It is a term that literally just describes having a bond to a specific partner and a preference for that partner over others. That's it. It is not a finite resource, it's literally just forming a monogamous relationship. You can't "ruin" it and you can't "hack" it either.
If anything, the guys who post blatant misinformation about these types of things have busted pair-bonding, since they can't even get a partner to form one lol.
I love how you can always so obviously tell they got all their knowledge of what women like from violent porn rather than simply asking even a singular woman
I once responded to a guy online who said that no nice guys ever win. I told him the story of one of my best friends that started as a FWB. Incredibly sweet guy, do anything for you, doesn't make a ton of money, isn't the best looking guy although not ugly, skinny and not buff in any way, and kind of nerdy (plays lots of D&D). He's also in an open marriage, is polyamorous, and has like six partners. Literally the nicest guy you'll ever meet.
I apparently am a lying whore who makes things up because a guy like I described would be involuntarily celibate because no woman would ever date a guy like that.
He just keeps collecting them. I don't know how he has any free time! It's the reason I noped out of the FWB thing. Love him, he's good in bed, but I kind of get the ick at sharing him with so many other vaginas. It feels unsafe from a disease standpoint, although he always uses a condom.
That's real af. I am and fw a few party girls but most of us get tested on the regular. Meanwhile my wife is at 3 serious partners and not at all interested in any more, not even anything casual. Everyone has different speeds and that's okay.
But yeah condoms definitely dont stop everything which is why testing is so important.
Yeah, I feel like most people could be therapied if they just understood that humans are not binary (hot - unattractive), but a complicated bunch. I’m almost convinced that for every person that thinks they’re ugly there are at least a handful of people that wouldn’t care about their looks or even find them attractive.
I appreciate you saying violent porn.
I do agree that too much porn is bad. But I don't really like people always saying "men know zero about women because of porn". Yes, porn isn't a good education, no doubt. But it's also what they are watching. Many vids include cunnilingus, clit stimulation etc. Some even show decent clit stimulation and eating pussy stuff.
There's variation in porn, actresses with different types of vulvas, long and short labia etc etc.
And even larger and smaller dicks. Even in mainstream porn. Which makes me question sometimes what are they even watching ffs? It has to be the absolute worst and degrading stuff or they are those type of people that watch a movie and come out with a completely different summary and message than what the movie told you.
The fact that he says that we're gaslighting "less endowed men" shows that he has heard from women, he just thinks all women are lying and he knows better. Ya know, the typical "woman are lying about what they like" stuff.
I feel like they need as many reasons as possible to say that women have unreasonably high standards for men so that they can feel better about themselves for not getting picked. “It’s not that I have a terrible personality and I’m horrible to be around, it’s that FeMaLeS only pick men with a huge dick, a six pack, positive canthal tilt and 4 sports cars.”
Because the patriarchy doesn't just reduce the value of women to their sexual utility--it also does it to men. If small dick then inferior man. The patriarchy makes a lot of sense.
Law enforcement here. Just clarifying--you mean your body has a cervix, right? That's what you mean when you say own a cervix, right? It's not, like, sitting in a jar on your desk? Right??
Everyone knows the most intense orgasms are achieved through fallopial stimulation - both tubes simultaneously. First man who evolves a penis that can do this is the true alpha.
My husband is a more well-endowed man and he won my heart by being gentle and clued in and very aware that he could hurt me.
I have been with a man who was a little longer and don't miss his dick any more than I miss the rest of him. He was not gentle or clued in and regularly made me cry during sex because he would punch me in the cervix. More than once I had to vomit after sex because of the dizzying, disorienting pain from too much vigorous cervical contact.
Sounds like we’re actually breaking through to the point where well endowed men are now having to grasp for straws and gaslight themselves to convince eachother that their big dicks aren’t a net negative.
I'd love to see how far they're willing to take this. I won't be satisfied until I see some math.
"The length of a woman's vaginal canal can be estimated as being 1/12 her height, +/- 0.5 inches. To identify the ideal height for you, measure your penis from base to tip fully erect. Remember to select your FUPA coefficient from table 1 to determine how much spare shaft length will be needed. Optimum thrusting periodicity can be found on table 2 by measuring distance from the lower base of your scrotum to the center of gravity of your testicular sac. Andante is recommended but values for Largo and Allegro are provided for experimentation."
I remember decades ago I went with a group of girlfriends to some show from the Chippendales. It was fun because it was a women's only show. Those men gave a good show, were good to look at but then they slowly undressed and I remember one of them with an appendage that reached almost to his knees. My girlfriends and I looked at each other and actually shuddered. If I ever see a man like that in my bedroom, I would run screaming!
A lot of men seem to think that women are only fixated on their penis because they are. The majority of women don't even get off on PIV, so perhaps they should try to listen to women what they actually like and/or prefer. Not soothing themselves with fairytales that only benefit them.
No, pretty sure you just aren't turned on enough and are gaslighting men everywhere. As a man, I know women's pleasure better. The shutter was, in fact an arousal shiver. Have you even tried being more experienced with handling large machinery?! I bet you don't even have your CDL license 🙄
You are an idiot. I'm old enough to be your mother (and probably grandmother too, judging from your immature posting). At my age I know exactly what I like and most definitely what I don't like.
Based on actual life experience and talking to my girlfriends. Unlike you, since you apparently think you know what you are talking about based on watching staged porn videos. You do know that it is staged, do you? Performing by actors that are paid to look like they enjoy this? Or do you also think that watching a film with Dracula or cowboys is real too?
No I totally understand 😅 sending you hugs..a CDL license is a special commercial license in the states that is required to operate heavy machinery like semi trucks :)
A prime example of how written messages can be misunderstood without the benefit of nonverbal communication 😊. And after a long day at work with boooring meetings I was quite snippy, again my apologies!
Nice to know what CDL means, in Europe we have to have a licence for practically everything too. Sometimes I think we are regulated to death here. Although we probably need a permit or licence for dropping dead too 😊.
Haha! I definitely feel you there! I can't stand the bureaucracy but I suppose it helps keep things safer, I know many people I wouldn't want driving a giant truck around me lol! Don't apologize, I totally get it! I've been getting chewed out online recently, it's a tough time of year 💕 also I should have definitely left out the "as a man" lol my husband says my snark will get me into trouble someday, but in a loving way, you know 😅
Then why are the best selling dildos 5 to 8 inches? Funny how average, to slightly larger than average size penis size dildos are most popular. Edit for clarity-I’m wondering why best sellers are not much larger if most women indeed want “monster penis”
Think you misunderstood my query (or I phrased it too vague). My point is if most women want monster penis, then why are most popular selling dildos sized near average sized penis-meaning why aren’t the best sellers much larger (not smaller), like this OOP claims. I’m basically wondering if OOP statement has validity, then why are best sellers not bigger, and you replied so they can hold on to said dildo (then you threw in genius)-I find your reply confusing unless you read my comment wrong (or I phrased it badly)
Yeah but you included 8 inches in your range for average size and best sellers
8 inches is like 1-2% of men. Most men are between 5 and 6 I believe
So the comment above thought you were saying "well how come some of the most popular sex toys are 8 inches if women don't love penises that big" = so they can hold it
I also said average to slightly larger than average. And I said 5 to 8 inches cause those are the best selling sizes for dildos. I don’t adjust facts to prove my point, only state them as they are. Should I have fibbed about actual best selling sizes? Also, 8 inches is not what I would call a monster penis, just on the larger side.
So you've sent me down the rabbit hole here and I've looked into the stats.
People may claim they're 8 inches but across all studies it appears 8 inches is actually in the top <0.1%. For a guy to be above 7 inches is 1%.
One in at least a thousand is pretty monster to me, considering we're not likely to sleep with over 1000 people in our lives. We're just terrible at judging size in person or measuring properly (plus men lie a lot and we take it at face value).
I’ve never actually bothered measuring, cause it’s the only one I got regardless of what some other dude has. And I’m pretty sure I read actual average was more than 5”, and less than 6”. And above 8” is quite unusual
As long as it works right. Also, have a friend who is much bigger than average, gotta say, I’ve heard a few HELL NOs coming from other room if we met a couple of ladies while out and brought them home, so being abnormally big isn’t the blessing some think it is.
Gee. What a surprise. Another bisserweisser who learned about sex (and what women supposedly want) from Adult Time or Pornhub!
A better source of info would be a college-level Human Sexuality course or a book along the lines of Michael Morgenstern's How to Make Love to a Woman.
Only a man could write with that much detail and passion about a damn penis. Maybe he's just average, but obsessing over how much power a penis allegedly has over the obviously inferior sex. Very slight chance that he might be bigger than average, and desperately clinging to the idea that this makes him special somehow. Most likely he's below average, but again obsessing over how much power a dick has over the inferious sex.
I'm a dude, but you know actually care enough about my partner to learn about her body, and directly discuss her pleasure with her to make sure I'm giving the best possible performance. If any of these dudes had a fucking clue...
Here's how I like to describe it to clueless guys. Think of our 2 genitals as interchangable. For 99% of women the vagina is essentially the ballsack, which is kind of is literally as well. It feels really good to be stimulated, but it's far from the main event. The clit is the female equivalent of the penis, and I can't imagine that anyone's clit gives a shit how big your dick is.
To clarify my "kind of literally is". This is a gross over simplification, but I like to think of the human development process like this. We all start as girls in egg form. Once fertilized, if I'm destined to be a dude, my vagina turns inside out and seals up, and the ovaries fall out into that new sack becoming testicles, and then the clit goes on steroids and gets huge (compartively speaking).
Well, points for sure for the effort and trying to assist in helping make other guys more informed.
Though it would be good if they also learned the right terminology eventually, too.
For 99% of women the vagina is essentially the ballsack, which is kind of is literally as well.
Eh. The labia, encompassing the vulva on the exterior, is the part that literally is. I mean guys can have a visible line there where the exact same flesh fused together. Weird how men make fun of the look of women's labia, but they have the same flesh that nature glued shut. 🤷♀️
I imagine the vagina is probably a bit harder to wrap the mind around, not really having much of an equivalent. Supposedly part of the prostate develops from structures also related to the development of the vagina, cervix, and uturus.
Yea I'm sure there are some ladies who enjoy having their cervix smashed..... But I would be out of the mood and in pain so quickly it's not even funny!!
That shit hurts!! Sure getting up close is nice and all but the accidental smash into the cervix and it's a wrap for me!!!!
The average vagina is under 5 inches in depth when relaxed.... Yes it will extend and flex but not that far (yes we are all unique!)
Leaving aside the rest of that garbage, I'm so tired of this rhetoric that orgasms of any kind fuel "pairbonding". Does that mean I fall in love with myself when I goon? 🤨 Make it make sense.
Men: Women are so shallow! They only want tall, rich bodybuilders with big dicks!
Women: Ehm… Most of us just want an equal partner who equally shares the load.
Men: LIARS! I only want to date Instagram models so that must mean women are only looking at (what I consider to be) the top tier of men too! There’s a male loneliness epidemic! All men who don’t fit into the above stereotype won’t ever get a girlfriend! Women are picky and superficial!
So men love convincing themselves and each other that above average dicks are better. When that's just not true. Some women do prefer them, me included, some women i know prefer smaller ones because large size is intimidating and if you are tighter and smaller it gets uncomfortable.
But in general, women don't care.
Men aren't walking dicks. If a guy i like has a smaller one than i would prefer, i don't care at all. It's like every preference and every woman is different.
Additionally, the variation in size isn't thaaat much. Like, some outliers exist and largest vs smallest dick on earth would be an image with huge size difference etc, but as a woman who slept around a lot, obviously most men are really average and not that different in size, what you find in person is mostly similar.
Hardness is a more important factor for me (and also just a preference, i just prefer guys who really do get it rock hard, which is also more the somewhat smaller guys).... And even that's pretty much similar.
A large dick or a small one can both lead to good or bad sex and basically it's not what determines pleasure.
But, for fun, let's say OOP is completely right and all women only want 20cm cock.
So, now what? You caught us evil women having a preference you made up!? You were right and feel validated? What would that change now? You think yours is above average and you now have more success with women (however that would work, i mean if you meet a guy, it takes a bit of time before seeing his cock and if you're an asshole I probably won't even let you show me etc)?
What do you want to tell the world? Or is it something that will make you feel worse for having a small one?
Why are you even posting this?
Why do you make it up? Why do men desperately want "women prefer large dick" to be true?? I don't get it i need an explanation!
If orgasms help pair bonding then my vibrator and I have been in a very committed, almost soulmate level relationship for years.
Would you look more favorably upon people who give you more orgasms..sure…but I want the citation to the scientific, peer reviewed, published and edited paper that accurately explains what exactly “pair bonding” is sir. And the paper can’t be about birds. We are mammals. I’ll wait.
Attention men: Urethral orgasms are the best! Don’t believe most men when they say it hurts. That it’s “intended to be an out hole only!” They don’t know what they are about! The best pair bonding, full body orgasm can only come from sounding.
That’s how this sounds. What an idiot.
Sincerely someone who has had to stop sex because they got jabbed hard in the cervix (I also had an IUD inserted…so no fucking thank you)
It's crazy to me how much these guys think about each other's dicks.
Like... no, there's a point where it's too big. There's also the fact that if you have a good personality and have a decent understanding of foreplay (like the stuff between 1st and 3rd base), it'll work out better. It's a shame to watch dudes be so wrong. I get secondhand shame/embarrassed for them.
Well, it’s a muscle, and we all know that the more you work a muscle the looser it gets, that’s why I always stay away from the gym, I ain’t tryin’ get all flabby lifting those dumbbells… speaking of dumbbells… 🤔
I would REALLY like to see his sources or know what women he was speaking to. Because I have a feeling that both of those categories are as empty as this dude’s head.
Was this written by a man? Because I can tell you big dicks can actually hurt. A pounding of the cervix is painful. And that is just the length. If you consider girth, something more than 3 inches diameter can hurt as well. Yes, a vagina stretches to the size of a baby, but I can tell you emphatically that the process is anything but enjoyable. Also, are they thinking the vagina is the only pleasure point on a woman?
Why are men so much more concerned about an extra large phallus than women are?
Look, does size matter? Sure… ish… relatively. Some women are naturally smaller than others and some men are too. Vaginas are muscular canals, penises are not made of muscles. Do muscles get “weaker” the more you use them? No. Are some penises too big/small for some vaginas? Yes. Are some vaginal openings too big/small for some penises? Yes. Is it usually the only thing that matters? No. In a perfect world, those with larger genitalia would pair up and those with smaller genitalia would pair up and also these pairs would all be mentally and socially compatible. 🙄 But here in the real world, some women are able to be, and prefer to be, satisfied by “smaller” or “larger” partners, but no matter what, this is not, or at least should not, be the be-all-end-all in being satisfied. I myself have physically/mentally orgasmed when going down on a woman and I’ve had partners do the same going down on me. Does having matching sizes matter? Maybe, for some more than others, sure, but if you can’t pleasure your partner, then either you aren’t doing something right or your partner isn’t right for you. But the right partner does exist. There’s a lid for every pot.
As someone that’s been sexually active for a little over 30 years, there’s never once been a partner of substance where physical connection trumped emotional connection, and those that were purely physical, weren’t of substance 💁🏻♂️
P.S. Any woman that disagrees with OP is ugly 🤦🏻♂️
Desperate to tell others you're better? Men, please stop making up bulls*** about us to try to drag other men down to your personal level of stupidity.
Wanting any contact with the cervix is definitely not a common desire, let alone all that. That all sounds about as comfortable as you being punched in the nuts during the act...capiche?
I don't want anything near my goddamn cervix, dick or otherwise. How do these entities not understand just because chicks lose their minds over horse wieners in porn does not automatically count as peer reviewed scientific fact
this is actually pretty true for me on the best orgasms being from PIV and most likely due to the anterior fornix, but I don't need a big dick to reach that average works just fine so...
What gives me the biggest ick is guys so confidently and trying to use scientific language as if it's fact, claim they know the secrets to women's vaginas when they are talking completely out of their assholes.
I've seen enough women on dating apps requesting large sizes that at this point, I'm starting to believe it..... wouldn't be so bad if I hadn't been rejected for having a tiny weenie multiple times.
He’s a bit too invested and singular in his narrative, but being the owner of one & based on my experience with partners I can attest that all else being equal bigger (to a degree) is more pleasurable🤷🏻
Nah. Been with three different larger than average men. The longest one was the least pleasurable, because he was not gentle or concerned with my pleasure. The girthiest one had a complex over partners telling him his penis was so big it hurt. The one in between those two was attached to the best lover, because the sex is about playing and bonding.
The first one was a shitty partner who regularly made me vomit after sex from the disorienting pain from getting hit in the cervix a bunch of times.
The second was fine, but he was nervous because he regularly had partners say "OW!" during sex.
Vaginas also come in different depths and widths. The Kama Sutra does actually classify three general sizes of vagina as well as three general sizes of penis. It advises several ways for people with a mismatch to make sex more pleasurable. But modern society, for unfathomable reasons, does not seem to acknowledge that vaginas come in different sizes.
So you just made a low-hanging-fruit, cookie cutter assumption about… my experiences ? To what end and basing on what exactly truly baffles me, but whatever makes you sleep well at night I guess.
Or maybe, just maybe there are those of us out there who are blessed in terms of our anatomy who are also caring and considerate towards their partners’ pleasure, and you just never came across one.
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straight guys are the biggest size queens
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Finally, some real objective facts!
💯facts
This. ☝🏼
OOF! Can see that coming out of my mouth some time.
how deep do they think the vagina is???
Infinite based on how horny you are probably
Nope you’re thinking of buttholes
Women are hollow. Like sex dolls. No need for organs…it’s just one long tube
>cervix
>high pleasure zone
Yeah, getting pap smears is always so pleasurable. Doesn't hurt at all. Every woman loves it.
Clearly you just weren’t wet enough, duh.
For whatever quirk of anatomy, pap smears don't hurt for me. But someone hitting my cervix sure does!
How does it feel to be god’s favorite?
Just be glad this isn’t ancient Greece
They don’t hurt for me either. But they are that weird type of uncomfortable that makes me nauseous.
Pregnancy showed me that it hurts getting hit from both sides!
Pap smears make me jump from the pain and then the doctor gets annoyed with me...
BAHAHAHA I KNOW GETTING NAILED IN THE CERVIX REPEATEDLY IS 👏NOT 👏IT 👏
LIKE lemme hit him in the balls a few times. See if maybe he needs info from a book about it or some additional education. Or maybe he’ll be able to tell me straight up that getting smashed in the balls isn’t pleasurable
I mean sure to some pain is pleasure but let’s not get it twisted
Getting punched in the cervix by a dick= PAIN.
Also girth GODS FOR THE WIN. Fuck length over 7 inches it’s just not necessary. Why people focus on length I’ll never know.
We know some like, under 25 year old guy wrote this - or a man who paid too much for a botched penis surgery where they inject fat into it or summat (that’s a real thing by the way, also cutting the tendon that keeps it suspended so it looks longer so they literally have to hold their dicks up with their hands. Men be odd sometimes)
I know, when are they going to get it right? Maybe 20% of women orgasm with p/v so don't add pain to the chore. Rock the boat boys.
We should test his hypothesis because he saw it in porn that means it's true. "I saw a guy that liked getting bapped in the nuts, so it's obviously a fact you do too, Bradley" 😅
Cervical stimulation is intensely pleasurable for some women. It's... Not really like a pap smear. And most women don't like it at all, most women find it painful.
Some women like anterior and/or posterior fornix stim instead and some like all of those (anterior and posterior fornix and cervix, I mean). Some women don't like any.
I think most women either don't like any deep stim or maybe they do enjoy some of it but it's not significantly more enjoyable than clitoral and/or g-spot stimulation?
Like he's the tiniest bit right in that some women really enjoy deep penetration but it's absolutely absurd to claim that most women secretly do and just won't admit or it just don't know what they like. Most women who do enjoy that and have partners who can't reach just use toys or have their partners use toys on them. They don't usually hide it and do it in secret, they share that with their partners and don't have a problem admitting that's what they like.
There are size queens but I've never seen one who would reject a whole ass good man because he has to use toys to get her off instead of his dick. I'm sure they exist but this guy is acting like that's actually common or like the only thing stopping most women is social censure and no chief we just tend to care about other people as whole ass people, not walking penii. Especially when good men are kinda hard to find but sex toys are readily available.
It's also a weird attitude when most women.. prefer things other than straight up penetration anyway. Like it's pretty common to prefer oral or a vibrator or something to just PIV, especially for orgasm. Deep stim doesn't really introduce a new variable there even if it's something a woman is just finding out about. His whole rationale appears to be centered on the idea that women care about dicks in general much more than most of them do, because that's his primary concern with sex-- he's basically just projecting, unable to accept the basic fact that it's really not the primary driver of sexual satisfaction for us.
Which is sad imo. Dude is gonna feel inadequate and get bent out of shape over shit he's literally making up in his own head. If he would just consider that maybe he's wrong and maybe women know better than him what we ourselves like he'd save himself a world of trouble and pain.
The percentage proportion of women who enjoy this type of deep stimulation is astronomically small. Like more than 2 standard deviations away from norm minimum. These women are vastly outliers. Science for the win
Also I'm finding 16% of women report enjoyment of it from a study. It's not large-scale so it's possible that doesn't directly translate to the same proportion of the population but I'm betting it's more than 1% of the total population, given that, too.
I... Did say that it's not common. Uncommon usually means two standard deviations away, or that's what I recall from stats. Or some synonym therefore. That's also why I covered a lot more than just cervical stimulation in my comment.
OOPs comments were about deep penetration or stimulation so it... Is relevant to acknowledge that yes there are women who like various forms of deep penetration/stimulation. That's why I addressed those things.
Even insofar as this is true though there was a lot wrong with his comments -- but I have to address that in the context of the truth. I'm not defending the dude, he got like maybe one percent of what he said right, but it's sensible to acknowledge the very slight accuracy he did stumble upon.
I'm aware it's very rare -- I'm one of the women who enjoys all of the above, cervical, anterior and posterior fornix stim. As someone who does enjoy it I wanted to point out that it's very different to a pap smear -- the women who do dislike it might find the sensations similar, I guess, I don't know because I'm not one of them, but I can say that as someone who does like it, the sensation of cervical stimulation during sex with a penis is quite different to a pap smear.
I just wanted to point that out because I didn't want the women who don't like it to think that's what I'm enjoying. I mean it's not going to hurt me if they think that but it would be incorrect and thus potentially cause misunderstandings if we discussed that more or if they discussed it with someone else who enjoys it. Pap smears aren't horrible to me, though, either, which I think is also worth pointing out.
I also wanted to say what I said because I do see a fair number of women even here who don't know that they have an anterior or posterior fornix or think that they're the cervix, when indicated on a diagram. That also causes unnecessary misunderstanding. Most people know e.g. the vulva isn't the vagina, we have labia majora and minora, the clitoris has erectile tissue and most of its structure is large and internal/hidden/deep and it has crural aspects and all of that but a lot of people don't know about the fornices.
I figured they were worth denoting because if someone doesn't know they have them they might not think to try stimulation thereof and that is a more common area of enjoyment. Maybe some people learn about them and try it and find it very pleasurable. That's why I acknowledged that initially too-- but again even when this is the case the OOP was wrong so that was the other reason I said it, because it supports the general argument that he's wrong.
I also think that it works better to prove against OOP by acknowledging the incredibly minor way in which he's right than simply dismissing his assertion wholesale. He wasn't talking about cervical stimulation but more about the fornices, iirc, but if I'm going to argue then I'm going to be accurate and include the actual range of things people enjoy and not just say 'oh well this isn't common so we don't have to consider it at all'... Especially when the topic was deep penetration.
If I overgeneralized and said most women like it that would be one thing but I didn't. And I see so many people here saying that no one likes it and making fun of the very idea which might be somewhat unpleasant to hear for the people who do like it-- the way some people talk makes it sound like there's something wrong with women for enjoying that. I don't see how it's unfair to the women who don't to acknowledge that a minority does though. That's literally just being inclusive instead of dismissive.
OP said there's so much wrong that they didn't know where to begin. I just pointed out everything that is wrong with it. I thought that would be validating to everyone else who knows it's wrong and potentially useful in case anyone encounters a similar belief, as there you go there's a ready made argument against everything that's wrong. Provided the speaker is receptive, of course.
He would have to acknowledge that women are thinking individuals instead of money hungry cum dumpsters and that is unfathomable to him.
Heh, I mean he seems to have been projecting in general -- I think he just can't understand that penii aren't that important to most women where orgasm is concerned, seriously, and probably in part because that's the most important thing to him, and of course partially just because that's what he's seen in porn and it's a popular sociocultural narrative especially from other men-- and that's kinda just an extension of this. It wouldn't surprise me if he isn't in control of himself sexually and does have some sort of a compulsion towards whatever he finds most enjoyable.
<Cervical stimulation is intensely pleasurable for some women>
This is very misleading. Although 'some' was used, the number is infinitesimally small. It should read....
'Cervical stimulation is painful for the vast majority of women.'
And I could say that phrasing it that way sounds really dismissive of the people who find it pleasurable, like myself.
As I stated elsewhere the point I was making is that even insofar as some women do enjoy various aspects of deep penetration (I'm pretty sure I mentioned that enjoying cervical stimulation is rarer than enjoying stimulation of the fornices and that the latter is also uncommon, and I think I said that most women find it painful... but if I used different words initially then my apologies) he's very wrong about literally everything else. Even insofar as some women do enjoy what he's talking about it doesn't translate into just wanting a huge penis, for so many reasons.
I... Can't properly rebut his argument there without acknowledging that yes deep penetration is a thing some people enjoy. I also focused more on the fornices because again those are more commonly enjoyed and I see a fair amount of comments even here where people are either conflating them with the cervix or unaware of their existence.
Oh and googling yields a result of 16% from a randomized study (though it was small-scale so it's possible that doesn't directly translate to the population at large-- even so I still suspect it's more than basically no one). Apparently 16% of women enjoy cervical stimulation. So that's not infinitesimal.
Wait wait wait, hold up.
It sounds like you're saying that women have different sexual preferences and the best course of action is to treat women as individuals and work collaboratively to make sex a mutually enjoyable experience?
Why is this the first time I'm hearing of this!? /s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s
thank you this is my experience i like that spot rubbed against during PIV and no it doesnt take a big penis id rather it be average.
The a spot, the anterior fornix, can be an erogenous zone for some people. The thing is you don't need a big dick to reach it; it can also be stimulated with fingers and toys
My 5-inch toy does a great job of hitting what I assume is my a-spot, and I’d rather spend time with it than with a dude obsessed with giant dicks.
You just haven't had enough experience with pap smears.
I actually originally misread that sentence as “cervical exams are a thing and are described by women…” and I was like WHAT
yes and to say anything to the contrary is just gaslighting the less well endowed which you want to do for some reason
Yup, it increases the bond between you and your OBGYN!
My old OBGYN was so mean about it.
Pair bonding again. We are not birds!!
You mean you don't instantly put out for guys who bring you a smooth pebble to build your nest?
How smooth a pebble we talking here?
Veeerrry smooth. Rounded, but not perfectly spherical. It won't roll away when you put it down.
My mom would always say "it's not the pebble, it's the penguin" lmao
Shit.. is that what this means?! I'm also partial to men who perform ritualistic dances though... So best of both worlds I guess
Wait what kind of pebble? I’m a mineral ho, bring me malachite and I’ll love you forever. Dick size not relevant.
What KIND of pebble? We talking a random grey rock from the river bed or a polish crystal like amethyst, tigers eye or malachite??
Pair bonding is a thing in humans too, but not in the way that these dudes understand.
It is a term that literally just describes having a bond to a specific partner and a preference for that partner over others. That's it. It is not a finite resource, it's literally just forming a monogamous relationship. You can't "ruin" it and you can't "hack" it either.
If anything, the guys who post blatant misinformation about these types of things have busted pair-bonding, since they can't even get a partner to form one lol.
I love how you can always so obviously tell they got all their knowledge of what women like from violent porn rather than simply asking even a singular woman
It’s actual cult „poisoning the well“ tactics: even when they talk to women, they’re like „oh they must be lying for reason x or y.“
I once responded to a guy online who said that no nice guys ever win. I told him the story of one of my best friends that started as a FWB. Incredibly sweet guy, do anything for you, doesn't make a ton of money, isn't the best looking guy although not ugly, skinny and not buff in any way, and kind of nerdy (plays lots of D&D). He's also in an open marriage, is polyamorous, and has like six partners. Literally the nicest guy you'll ever meet.
I apparently am a lying whore who makes things up because a guy like I described would be involuntarily celibate because no woman would ever date a guy like that.
Six is crazy, most people max out at three!
He just keeps collecting them. I don't know how he has any free time! It's the reason I noped out of the FWB thing. Love him, he's good in bed, but I kind of get the ick at sharing him with so many other vaginas. It feels unsafe from a disease standpoint, although he always uses a condom.
That's real af. I am and fw a few party girls but most of us get tested on the regular. Meanwhile my wife is at 3 serious partners and not at all interested in any more, not even anything casual. Everyone has different speeds and that's okay.
But yeah condoms definitely dont stop everything which is why testing is so important.
I am in awe of the sheer amount of energy that man must have
Yeah, I feel like most people could be therapied if they just understood that humans are not binary (hot - unattractive), but a complicated bunch. I’m almost convinced that for every person that thinks they’re ugly there are at least a handful of people that wouldn’t care about their looks or even find them attractive.
I appreciate you saying violent porn. I do agree that too much porn is bad. But I don't really like people always saying "men know zero about women because of porn". Yes, porn isn't a good education, no doubt. But it's also what they are watching. Many vids include cunnilingus, clit stimulation etc. Some even show decent clit stimulation and eating pussy stuff. There's variation in porn, actresses with different types of vulvas, long and short labia etc etc. And even larger and smaller dicks. Even in mainstream porn. Which makes me question sometimes what are they even watching ffs? It has to be the absolute worst and degrading stuff or they are those type of people that watch a movie and come out with a completely different summary and message than what the movie told you.
The fact that he says that we're gaslighting "less endowed men" shows that he has heard from women, he just thinks all women are lying and he knows better. Ya know, the typical "woman are lying about what they like" stuff.
Men thinking sex is just a physical act, news at 11.
It's like they purposely want to add fuel to the fire and make men feel insecure.
Reality doesn't work that way. Yeah some women are absolutely size queens and that's their preference but it's not everyone's preference.
I don't appreciate being dicktated (I love a pun) to when I know I don't want or need a huge penis.
I feel like they need as many reasons as possible to say that women have unreasonably high standards for men so that they can feel better about themselves for not getting picked. “It’s not that I have a terrible personality and I’m horrible to be around, it’s that FeMaLeS only pick men with a huge dick, a six pack, positive canthal tilt and 4 sports cars.”
I think they also want their fellow men to feel as insecure as possible. Like if they can't be happy, no one can be.
Also insecure men are a HUGE consumer base: make them feel inadequate then sell them supplements, online courses, expensive clothing etc.
Why are some straight men so obsessed with other men's big dicks?
Because the patriarchy doesn't just reduce the value of women to their sexual utility--it also does it to men. If small dick then inferior man. The patriarchy makes a lot of sense.
Ik
Porn and the repression of their enjoyment of other men's bodies.
(it's ok too the see humans are beautiful in their own right regardless of orientation)
As the owner of a cervix—fuck that noise lmao.
Law enforcement here. Just clarifying--you mean your body has a cervix, right? That's what you mean when you say own a cervix, right? It's not, like, sitting in a jar on your desk? Right??
Let's wait for the dissertation about diaphragm orgasms.
Everyone knows the most intense orgasms are achieved through fallopial stimulation - both tubes simultaneously. First man who evolves a penis that can do this is the true alpha.
I really need pericardial stimulation to orgasm
My wife only gets off when I tamponade her heart.
(I don't know what tamponade means. I heard it on ER and know it involves touching the heart. Or it doesn't. I don't know, I'm not a doctor.)
It sounds like a beverage made from tampons. Yeah idk what it means either...
If it didn’t tickle my brain it wasnt a real sex
I couldn’t help but read your comment in the Nintendo Mario voice. lol.
ummmm the cervix sure as shit isn’t a pleasure zone.
these dudes are more obsessed with dicks than anyone i’ve ever met, including out gay men.
My husband is a more well-endowed man and he won my heart by being gentle and clued in and very aware that he could hurt me.
I have been with a man who was a little longer and don't miss his dick any more than I miss the rest of him. He was not gentle or clued in and regularly made me cry during sex because he would punch me in the cervix. More than once I had to vomit after sex because of the dizzying, disorienting pain from too much vigorous cervical contact.
🤢 Jesus Christ
Sounds like we’re actually breaking through to the point where well endowed men are now having to grasp for straws and gaslight themselves to convince eachother that their big dicks aren’t a net negative.
I'd love to see how far they're willing to take this. I won't be satisfied until I see some math.
"The length of a woman's vaginal canal can be estimated as being 1/12 her height, +/- 0.5 inches. To identify the ideal height for you, measure your penis from base to tip fully erect. Remember to select your FUPA coefficient from table 1 to determine how much spare shaft length will be needed. Optimum thrusting periodicity can be found on table 2 by measuring distance from the lower base of your scrotum to the center of gravity of your testicular sac. Andante is recommended but values for Largo and Allegro are provided for experimentation."
'Fupa coefficient' has given me terminal giggle fits
im just baffled why this guy even cares so much. essay typed up over nothing.
Porn-fried brain
There is a sub I believe called big dick problems and it’s actually sad. Being well endowed is not necessarily a gift.
Cervical orgasm yeeeowccch
Oh Lord....
I remember decades ago I went with a group of girlfriends to some show from the Chippendales. It was fun because it was a women's only show. Those men gave a good show, were good to look at but then they slowly undressed and I remember one of them with an appendage that reached almost to his knees. My girlfriends and I looked at each other and actually shuddered. If I ever see a man like that in my bedroom, I would run screaming!
A lot of men seem to think that women are only fixated on their penis because they are. The majority of women don't even get off on PIV, so perhaps they should try to listen to women what they actually like and/or prefer. Not soothing themselves with fairytales that only benefit them.
No, pretty sure you just aren't turned on enough and are gaslighting men everywhere. As a man, I know women's pleasure better. The shutter was, in fact an arousal shiver. Have you even tried being more experienced with handling large machinery?! I bet you don't even have your CDL license 🙄
You are an idiot. I'm old enough to be your mother (and probably grandmother too, judging from your immature posting). At my age I know exactly what I like and most definitely what I don't like.
Based on actual life experience and talking to my girlfriends. Unlike you, since you apparently think you know what you are talking about based on watching staged porn videos. You do know that it is staged, do you? Performing by actors that are paid to look like they enjoy this? Or do you also think that watching a film with Dracula or cowboys is real too?
I'm actually a sarcastic 30yo woman 🤣 you can check my profile lmao I'm sorry!! I thought the CDL would be a dead give away, I'll use the /s next time
I'm sorry... I thought you were one of those stupid young men that regularly invade women's subs. (And I have no idea what CDL means.)
No I totally understand 😅 sending you hugs..a CDL license is a special commercial license in the states that is required to operate heavy machinery like semi trucks :)
A prime example of how written messages can be misunderstood without the benefit of nonverbal communication 😊. And after a long day at work with boooring meetings I was quite snippy, again my apologies!
Nice to know what CDL means, in Europe we have to have a licence for practically everything too. Sometimes I think we are regulated to death here. Although we probably need a permit or licence for dropping dead too 😊.
Haha! I definitely feel you there! I can't stand the bureaucracy but I suppose it helps keep things safer, I know many people I wouldn't want driving a giant truck around me lol! Don't apologize, I totally get it! I've been getting chewed out online recently, it's a tough time of year 💕 also I should have definitely left out the "as a man" lol my husband says my snark will get me into trouble someday, but in a loving way, you know 😅
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"The vaginal channel" 😂
Box News!
Then why are the best selling dildos 5 to 8 inches? Funny how average, to slightly larger than average size penis size dildos are most popular. Edit for clarity-I’m wondering why best sellers are not much larger if most women indeed want “monster penis”
And vibrators outsell dildos in every market. Not to mention, the newest models can't even be used for penetration. They're all meant to be external.
So you can still hold on to them from outside the body, genius.
Think you misunderstood my query (or I phrased it too vague). My point is if most women want monster penis, then why are most popular selling dildos sized near average sized penis-meaning why aren’t the best sellers much larger (not smaller), like this OOP claims. I’m basically wondering if OOP statement has validity, then why are best sellers not bigger, and you replied so they can hold on to said dildo (then you threw in genius)-I find your reply confusing unless you read my comment wrong (or I phrased it badly)
Yeah but you included 8 inches in your range for average size and best sellers
8 inches is like 1-2% of men. Most men are between 5 and 6 I believe
So the comment above thought you were saying "well how come some of the most popular sex toys are 8 inches if women don't love penises that big" = so they can hold it
I also said average to slightly larger than average. And I said 5 to 8 inches cause those are the best selling sizes for dildos. I don’t adjust facts to prove my point, only state them as they are. Should I have fibbed about actual best selling sizes? Also, 8 inches is not what I would call a monster penis, just on the larger side.
So you've sent me down the rabbit hole here and I've looked into the stats.
People may claim they're 8 inches but across all studies it appears 8 inches is actually in the top <0.1%. For a guy to be above 7 inches is 1%.
One in at least a thousand is pretty monster to me, considering we're not likely to sleep with over 1000 people in our lives. We're just terrible at judging size in person or measuring properly (plus men lie a lot and we take it at face value).
I’ve never actually bothered measuring, cause it’s the only one I got regardless of what some other dude has. And I’m pretty sure I read actual average was more than 5”, and less than 6”. And above 8” is quite unusual
Yeah that's a healthy way of looking at it! I'm sure what you've got's great
But yeah the average is around 5.5 and drops off pretty quickly in both directions. Very few have below 4 and very few have above 7
As long as it works right. Also, have a friend who is much bigger than average, gotta say, I’ve heard a few HELL NOs coming from other room if we met a couple of ladies while out and brought them home, so being abnormally big isn’t the blessing some think it is.
Yep, 8 inches IS a monster penis in my book.
and that person edited their comment after I posted mine, love how the downvotes are coming in now that my reply to them makes no sense. :p
Gee. What a surprise. Another bisserweisser who learned about sex (and what women supposedly want) from Adult Time or Pornhub!
A better source of info would be a college-level Human Sexuality course or a book along the lines of Michael Morgenstern's How to Make Love to a Woman.
Incels spend so much time thinking about dick.
Only a man could write with that much detail and passion about a damn penis. Maybe he's just average, but obsessing over how much power a penis allegedly has over the obviously inferior sex. Very slight chance that he might be bigger than average, and desperately clinging to the idea that this makes him special somehow. Most likely he's below average, but again obsessing over how much power a dick has over the inferious sex.
I'm a dude, but you know actually care enough about my partner to learn about her body, and directly discuss her pleasure with her to make sure I'm giving the best possible performance. If any of these dudes had a fucking clue...
Here's how I like to describe it to clueless guys. Think of our 2 genitals as interchangable. For 99% of women the vagina is essentially the ballsack, which is kind of is literally as well. It feels really good to be stimulated, but it's far from the main event. The clit is the female equivalent of the penis, and I can't imagine that anyone's clit gives a shit how big your dick is.
To clarify my "kind of literally is". This is a gross over simplification, but I like to think of the human development process like this. We all start as girls in egg form. Once fertilized, if I'm destined to be a dude, my vagina turns inside out and seals up, and the ovaries fall out into that new sack becoming testicles, and then the clit goes on steroids and gets huge (compartively speaking).
Well, points for sure for the effort and trying to assist in helping make other guys more informed.
Though it would be good if they also learned the right terminology eventually, too.
Eh. The labia, encompassing the vulva on the exterior, is the part that literally is. I mean guys can have a visible line there where the exact same flesh fused together. Weird how men make fun of the look of women's labia, but they have the same flesh that nature glued shut. 🤷♀️
I imagine the vagina is probably a bit harder to wrap the mind around, not really having much of an equivalent. Supposedly part of the prostate develops from structures also related to the development of the vagina, cervix, and uturus.
It’s always so edifying when a MAN tells us what women like.
Yea I'm sure there are some ladies who enjoy having their cervix smashed..... But I would be out of the mood and in pain so quickly it's not even funny!!
That shit hurts!! Sure getting up close is nice and all but the accidental smash into the cervix and it's a wrap for me!!!!
The average vagina is under 5 inches in depth when relaxed.... Yes it will extend and flex but not that far (yes we are all unique!)
Leaving aside the rest of that garbage, I'm so tired of this rhetoric that orgasms of any kind fuel "pairbonding". Does that mean I fall in love with myself when I goon? 🤨 Make it make sense.
Are you saying you don’t love yourself? 😉
Oh noes, not the self hatred! 😂
“Cervical orgasm”
“Pair bonding”
Just fuck off.
I like ‘em girthy, but really dislike too much length.
Men: Women are so shallow! They only want tall, rich bodybuilders with big dicks!
Women: Ehm… Most of us just want an equal partner who equally shares the load.
Men: LIARS! I only want to date Instagram models so that must mean women are only looking at (what I consider to be) the top tier of men too! There’s a male loneliness epidemic! All men who don’t fit into the above stereotype won’t ever get a girlfriend! Women are picky and superficial!
Women: …
Source: his girlfriend that always compliments his dick size after sex because everything else was terrible.
His logic is dizzying.
So men love convincing themselves and each other that above average dicks are better. When that's just not true. Some women do prefer them, me included, some women i know prefer smaller ones because large size is intimidating and if you are tighter and smaller it gets uncomfortable. But in general, women don't care.
Men aren't walking dicks. If a guy i like has a smaller one than i would prefer, i don't care at all. It's like every preference and every woman is different.
Additionally, the variation in size isn't thaaat much. Like, some outliers exist and largest vs smallest dick on earth would be an image with huge size difference etc, but as a woman who slept around a lot, obviously most men are really average and not that different in size, what you find in person is mostly similar. Hardness is a more important factor for me (and also just a preference, i just prefer guys who really do get it rock hard, which is also more the somewhat smaller guys).... And even that's pretty much similar.
A large dick or a small one can both lead to good or bad sex and basically it's not what determines pleasure.
But, for fun, let's say OOP is completely right and all women only want 20cm cock. So, now what? You caught us evil women having a preference you made up!? You were right and feel validated? What would that change now? You think yours is above average and you now have more success with women (however that would work, i mean if you meet a guy, it takes a bit of time before seeing his cock and if you're an asshole I probably won't even let you show me etc)?
What do you want to tell the world? Or is it something that will make you feel worse for having a small one?
Why are you even posting this?
Why do you make it up? Why do men desperately want "women prefer large dick" to be true?? I don't get it i need an explanation!
If orgasms help pair bonding then my vibrator and I have been in a very committed, almost soulmate level relationship for years.
Would you look more favorably upon people who give you more orgasms..sure…but I want the citation to the scientific, peer reviewed, published and edited paper that accurately explains what exactly “pair bonding” is sir. And the paper can’t be about birds. We are mammals. I’ll wait.
Attention men: Urethral orgasms are the best! Don’t believe most men when they say it hurts. That it’s “intended to be an out hole only!” They don’t know what they are about! The best pair bonding, full body orgasm can only come from sounding.
That’s how this sounds. What an idiot.
So I had my IUD taken out two days ago.
She had to fish around with forceps to find the string. This was not...the most pleasant thing.
I did not have a cervical orgasm; I feel cheated.
It's crazy to me how much these guys think about each other's dicks.
Like... no, there's a point where it's too big. There's also the fact that if you have a good personality and have a decent understanding of foreplay (like the stuff between 1st and 3rd base), it'll work out better. It's a shame to watch dudes be so wrong. I get secondhand shame/embarrassed for them.
This person no doubt also thinks that the vagina gets 'stretched out' from overuse.
Well, it’s a muscle, and we all know that the more you work a muscle the looser it gets, that’s why I always stay away from the gym, I ain’t tryin’ get all flabby lifting those dumbbells… speaking of dumbbells… 🤔
That post is so amazingly dumb that I literally bursted out laughing, and somehow managed to snap me out of my bad mood
I would REALLY like to see his sources or know what women he was speaking to. Because I have a feeling that both of those categories are as empty as this dude’s head.
Google “tiny chicks, big dicks” for reference material. /s
Was this written by a man? Because I can tell you big dicks can actually hurt. A pounding of the cervix is painful. And that is just the length. If you consider girth, something more than 3 inches diameter can hurt as well. Yes, a vagina stretches to the size of a baby, but I can tell you emphatically that the process is anything but enjoyable. Also, are they thinking the vagina is the only pleasure point on a woman?
Why are men so much more concerned about an extra large phallus than women are?
Look, does size matter? Sure… ish… relatively. Some women are naturally smaller than others and some men are too. Vaginas are muscular canals, penises are not made of muscles. Do muscles get “weaker” the more you use them? No. Are some penises too big/small for some vaginas? Yes. Are some vaginal openings too big/small for some penises? Yes. Is it usually the only thing that matters? No. In a perfect world, those with larger genitalia would pair up and those with smaller genitalia would pair up and also these pairs would all be mentally and socially compatible. 🙄 But here in the real world, some women are able to be, and prefer to be, satisfied by “smaller” or “larger” partners, but no matter what, this is not, or at least should not, be the be-all-end-all in being satisfied. I myself have physically/mentally orgasmed when going down on a woman and I’ve had partners do the same going down on me. Does having matching sizes matter? Maybe, for some more than others, sure, but if you can’t pleasure your partner, then either you aren’t doing something right or your partner isn’t right for you. But the right partner does exist. There’s a lid for every pot.
As someone that’s been sexually active for a little over 30 years, there’s never once been a partner of substance where physical connection trumped emotional connection, and those that were purely physical, weren’t of substance 💁🏻♂️
P.S. Any woman that disagrees with OP is ugly 🤦🏻♂️
Desperate to tell others you're better? Men, please stop making up bulls*** about us to try to drag other men down to your personal level of stupidity.
Wanting any contact with the cervix is definitely not a common desire, let alone all that. That all sounds about as comfortable as you being punched in the nuts during the act...capiche?
“…and are described by women as full body orgasms…”
You mean like… a normal orgasm? Do they think the area affected by an orgasm is changed by what you touch to cause that orgasm? So stupid
Eh
Fronix?
I don't want anything near my goddamn cervix, dick or otherwise. How do these entities not understand just because chicks lose their minds over horse wieners in porn does not automatically count as peer reviewed scientific fact
Again with the pair bonding, are we all Fae/vampire/werewolves/birds now? Leave it up to a man to confusing freezing up in pain to a full body orgasm.
dick pill 😂
this is actually pretty true for me on the best orgasms being from PIV and most likely due to the anterior fornix, but I don't need a big dick to reach that average works just fine so...
What gives me the biggest ick is guys so confidently and trying to use scientific language as if it's fact, claim they know the secrets to women's vaginas when they are talking completely out of their assholes.
No no no no no big dick just HURT 😢
I've seen enough women on dating apps requesting large sizes that at this point, I'm starting to believe it..... wouldn't be so bad if I hadn't been rejected for having a tiny weenie multiple times.
User name checks out
He’s a bit too invested and singular in his narrative, but being the owner of one & based on my experience with partners I can attest that all else being equal bigger (to a degree) is more pleasurable🤷🏻
Most of my partners past & present enjoyed my size. But I think that's more due to actual prep and I'm not sticking in dry and Jack hammering away.
Hear hear. Arousal, warm up and TLC are non-negotiable at any size.
It should be but I have heard so many stories this not happening. To the point I think it should be a legit class.
Nah. Been with three different larger than average men. The longest one was the least pleasurable, because he was not gentle or concerned with my pleasure. The girthiest one had a complex over partners telling him his penis was so big it hurt. The one in between those two was attached to the best lover, because the sex is about playing and bonding.
I see. Your experience is valid, but the common denominator is shitty partner, not shitty organ amirite ?
The first one was a shitty partner who regularly made me vomit after sex from the disorienting pain from getting hit in the cervix a bunch of times.
The second was fine, but he was nervous because he regularly had partners say "OW!" during sex.
Vaginas also come in different depths and widths. The Kama Sutra does actually classify three general sizes of vagina as well as three general sizes of penis. It advises several ways for people with a mismatch to make sex more pleasurable. But modern society, for unfathomable reasons, does not seem to acknowledge that vaginas come in different sizes.
Jesus that first one… I’m sorry you had to go through that.
As for the rest I wholeheartedly agree and am also aware about that part of kama sutra that talks about physical compatibility between couples.
Ah yes, because we women never have to coddle the ego of men and lie about how much pleasure we're getting from their magical dick.
So you just made a low-hanging-fruit, cookie cutter assumption about… my experiences ? To what end and basing on what exactly truly baffles me, but whatever makes you sleep well at night I guess.
Or maybe, just maybe there are those of us out there who are blessed in terms of our anatomy who are also caring and considerate towards their partners’ pleasure, and you just never came across one.