He really does flip. Delays help, doesn't give enough. The suspension of intelligence sharing is likely what caused the collapse of the invaded Russian land.
The defense minister Viola Amherd left us in a real morass.
We have this reconnaissance drone, the Elbit Hermes 900, from Israel that was scheduled to be in service in 2015... but still isn't. The project leader begged for his own job termination because he felt incompetent, but he was refused. The drone should get a heavier Diesel engine, which forced a re-design of the fuselage. It should get a de-icing system that the Israeli-operated models don't need. The drone should be able to fly autonomously in VFR airspace, and thus be able to see and avoid paragliders. In all the "operational" flights, the drone had to be accompanied by a helicopter for that reason.
After massive delays and cost overruns, we're now purchasing the off the shelf model.
The border with Italy, mainly. We have lots of immigration via Italy (a safe 3rd country), but the Italians don't really process asylum claims nor do they take back refused immigrants. They basically whisk the refugees to the borders of France, Switzerland or Austria.
The Ukraine war has shown that such drones don't stand a chance against a 3rd rate air defense.
its ridiculous. There is no weapon deliveries, even active effort of blocking ammo and weaponry to ukraine because of neutrality, but then the moron government bought the most supplier dependent weapons system.
Nah the dumb part is the government failing to understand the same contract that literally every single other 35 customers signed up to.
Literally when the deal was announced people's reaction was "how the fuck has Switzerland got a special deal out of the Yanks", because they were saying theirs was the only deal to be fixed price at time of purchase, rather than US DoD Indexed.
Turns out, they didn't get a special deal, they were just dumb about the regular deal.
They weren't dumb. They were simply lying on purpose. But they did for a reason: The Swiss voting public is very fickle when comes to approving fighter acquisitions. With that "Guetzli" the government wanted to avoid a repeat of the Gripen debacle.
This is all true and would be good points except the 35 purchase was a bad idea because none of the contracts the USA signs are worth the paper they're written on.
Neutrality is all fun and games until the hegemon comes knocking for you to buy some of its bloated fighter jets so it doesn't look as bad in front of congress
It's laughable the F-35 was the "cheapest" offer and people actually believed that outrageous lie... The Swiss politicians & LM really took us for a ride on that one.
What's even worse is that several leftist and pacifist organizations collected 100'000 signatures from Swiss citizens to force a national vote on the F-35 purchase. It would have constitutionally banned the government from purchasing the fighter jet.
After the parliament voted to purchase it in 2022 and the government signed the contract four day later, they withdrew the national vote. "If we're voting, the vote would not mean anything."
The very predictable cost overruns came. The "fixed price" did not mean anything. The dipshits gave away their once-in-a-lifetime chance to send a powerful message. In the country that is so proud of democracy.
Or the Rafale so you get commonality with the next-door neighbour that's been policing your skies along with the other neighbours after your air force goes home for the day.
But nah, let's just pretend the F-35 is cheaper by cutting out half the flight hours per year thanks to simulators in our report.
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Goldbridge NCD crossover is peak
AFTV as well, the game is so back
ITS TIIIIIME TO GOOOOO
I was wondering since when do banks have Air Force’s but then I remembered a gas station has one
The Dutch or the Saudis?
Russia ((n)yet).
Or the Norwegians or any ME country.
He's fackin dun it again !
- me, everytime Trump flips on Ukraine
when did he flip? Its always just talk the talk but dont walkie talkie!
He constantly flips depending on who the last person he spoke to is. Dementia Donny only remembers the last conversation he had
He really does flip. Delays help, doesn't give enough. The suspension of intelligence sharing is likely what caused the collapse of the invaded Russian land.
This was 100% on the Swiss government.
How on earth are they the banking capital of the world but can't find someone competent enough to read a boilerplate contract?
They're usually used to the other type of banking.
The great sperm vaults of the alps.
…and here I am thinking the seed vault is in Svalbard.
The defense minister Viola Amherd left us in a real morass.
We have this reconnaissance drone, the Elbit Hermes 900, from Israel that was scheduled to be in service in 2015... but still isn't. The project leader begged for his own job termination because he felt incompetent, but he was refused. The drone should get a heavier Diesel engine, which forced a re-design of the fuselage. It should get a de-icing system that the Israeli-operated models don't need. The drone should be able to fly autonomously in VFR airspace, and thus be able to see and avoid paragliders. In all the "operational" flights, the drone had to be accompanied by a helicopter for that reason.
After massive delays and cost overruns, we're now purchasing the off the shelf model.
I could go on...
shit I didn't know it's that bad
What was the need for the drone in the first place? It's hardly like Switzerland has vasts borders or coastlines to watch over?
The border with Italy, mainly. We have lots of immigration via Italy (a safe 3rd country), but the Italians don't really process asylum claims nor do they take back refused immigrants. They basically whisk the refugees to the borders of France, Switzerland or Austria.
The Ukraine war has shown that such drones don't stand a chance against a 3rd rate air defense.
its ridiculous. There is no weapon deliveries, even active effort of blocking ammo and weaponry to ukraine because of neutrality, but then the moron government bought the most supplier dependent weapons system.
Nah the dumb part is the government failing to understand the same contract that literally every single other 35 customers signed up to.
Literally when the deal was announced people's reaction was "how the fuck has Switzerland got a special deal out of the Yanks", because they were saying theirs was the only deal to be fixed price at time of purchase, rather than US DoD Indexed.
Turns out, they didn't get a special deal, they were just dumb about the regular deal.
A country of bankers and lawyers, how did they not see this coming?
You mean the bankers and lawyers that blew up one of the largest banks in the world not to long ago?
They weren't dumb. They were simply lying on purpose. But they did for a reason: The Swiss voting public is very fickle when comes to approving fighter acquisitions. With that "Guetzli" the government wanted to avoid a repeat of the Gripen debacle.
This is all true and would be good points except the 35 purchase was a bad idea because none of the contracts the USA signs are worth the paper they're written on.
Almost as dumb as relying on swiss ammo /s
You didn't need to add "ammo".
Neutrality is all fun and games until the hegemon comes knocking for you to buy some of its bloated fighter jets so it doesn't look as bad in front of congress
Don't you talk about Fat Amy like that.
They even decided to buy the Gripen at first, but the French managed to upturn that.
Like they got the money, just buy a fucking plane!
how does our government manage to have the mirage scandal happen TWICE.. god dammit
idk bruh, atleast our F-35s won't be tailored to our needs....
i'm somewhat sad about it because i really like the F-35 and want to see it in person
but that's it
Ja, Miragelöcher...
Tariffs on Swiss gold coming?
It's laughable the F-35 was the "cheapest" offer and people actually believed that outrageous lie... The Swiss politicians & LM really took us for a ride on that one.
To be honest, I, too, would cheat on a procurement if Lockheed Martin got me on a ride in an F-35.
damn RAM prices affect F35s too?
What's even worse is that several leftist and pacifist organizations collected 100'000 signatures from Swiss citizens to force a national vote on the F-35 purchase. It would have constitutionally banned the government from purchasing the fighter jet.
After the parliament voted to purchase it in 2022 and the government signed the contract four day later, they withdrew the national vote. "If we're voting, the vote would not mean anything."
The very predictable cost overruns came. The "fixed price" did not mean anything. The dipshits gave away their once-in-a-lifetime chance to send a powerful message. In the country that is so proud of democracy.
Yeah democracy is great and all but have you heard of making heaps of money and "neutrality"?
"Okay, we're going to buy the Gripen then."
I mean, it would probably have been cheaper.
Or the Rafale so you get commonality with the next-door neighbour that's been policing your skies along with the other neighbours after your air force goes home for the day.
But nah, let's just pretend the F-35 is cheaper by cutting out half the flight hours per year thanks to simulators in our report.
Exactly. We would have been happier with that plane.
We should buy 0, not because the plane is bad but because the supplier is a vital concern and the supplier is untrustworthy.
I'm in favor of the eurofighter
goldbridge x ncd is diabolical
"Switzerland... For your final challenge... Properly procure a new jet."
impossible
Tbf i wouldn't buy anything from crazy donald either
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I cannot wait to see this dudes reactions tomorrow.
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Notice that it says fewer not none.
All of y’all owe gripen an apology