Salamalaikum! I hope you are having a good day. I am a white revert from Australia, and I’ve been Muslim for about a year (I am 19). I’m really nervous about talking to Muslim girls for the sake of marriage because of my skin colour.

I’m concerned that because of my ethnicity I won’t be accepted. Obviously nobody will have a problem with me being a revert, but I feel like I won’t feel like I “belong” because I don’t share the same culture as others. I eat pretty bland food, I’m fairly quiet and don’t really have a unique “culture”. I would love to join in and participate in other Muslim’s culture but I feel like my skin colour will make me stand out :(

I’m also concerned that a lot of families won’t accept me, I don’t want to be seen as an outcast or an outsider because of my ethnicity,

EDIT: WTH I WOKE UP TO 11 DMS. I DONT WANNA MARRY OFF REDDIT

  • Tbh if someone is seeing your race before accepting a proposal they're not worth it.And a good Muslim wouldn't see your ethnicity as an obstacle.

    Exactly. If you’re looking for someone who takes the deen seriously and will uplift you in your own deen, you wouldn’t care about their ethnicity. What will their heritage do for you?

    I see what you’re saying but let’s not also just say “if you’re deen is good that’s all that matters for getting married” either 

    A lot of people have been fed that idea and think simply practicing Islam means their automatically entitled to get married to the perfect person 

    Of course, my point essentially means that ethnicity doesn’t mean anything. Your deen and character as a person is ultimately what matters.

     Your deen and character as a person is ultimately what matters.

    Ideally yes, but let’s not fool ourselves in today’s world either. Things like looks, status, social skills etc also matter (which is fine islamically) so simply just saying “be a good person and religious and you’ll get married” isn’t accurate either 

    I’m talking about ethnicity. Everything you just listed can be found in all ethnicities.

  • There’s plenty of Muslim girls who would LOVE a white man. Don’t worry. I married one myself. Islam has no space to racism. If anyone is racist then leave it. You will find someone fantastic inshallah ameen

    Frl from what I know they are highly desired amongst Muslimahs

    100%! Because there’s wayyy less cultural palava especially with in laws. That’s what drew me in anyway hahahaha

    I agree! He is so desireable and you sisters are so lucky haha 😉

    Why is it lucky to have a white man, I don't get that, pretty weird thing to say

    Would you say the same if he was a black revert? Why aren't they highly desired?

    It's mainly due to a weird complex and not because whites don't have cultural baggage or anything like others are saying. Black reverts don't have Muslim cultural baggage but they aren't seen as highly desired. I wonder if OP would get 11 DMs if he was a black revert

    🎶we’re like diamonds in the sky”

    Oh really? I know someone who married a white revert after a failed marriage from someone from her culture, her family is now not speaking to her anymore.

  • Bro im Australian and there are plenty of sisters who were born here like me who wont care. My husband is a white revert and culture has been a non issue. The biggest factor at present is actually your age. You are a bit younger still. Go to community events and you will meet people your age without any issues but dont rush into marriage.

  • don't worry talk to an imam near you.

  • This'll be a long post, but as an Aussie (female) Muslim, I hope I have some insights which will help you.

    One of my favourite things about being Muslim is that people come from such a vast variety of different cultures. If you look at Bosnian versus Somali versus Desi versus Indonesian cultures, they're all so different, and I think that's a very good thing.

    As a fellow Aussie Muslim around your age, being an Aussie Muslim means you're going to have cultural values that differ from non-white Australian Muslims, even if you don't realise it yet. And that's really cool!

    There can be a lot of jokes online about white people not having culture, but depending on where in Aus you're from, your 'culture' may revolve around being more chilled, laid back and friendly. Perhaps frequenting the beach and having an active lifestyle. Having more open conversations at home, where family dynamics look different to those from other cultures. And, when it comes to formal occasions, wearing tuxes and bowties as your preferred dress, as opposed to salwar kameez or a thobe. Those are all examples of things which can constitute your culture.

    And there isn't anything wrong with being quiet either. Quiet people exit in all cultures, and I think that it can be a really good thing, as it means you are less likely to risk putting your foot in your mouth and accidentally offending someone.

    Families who accept partners on the basis of ethnicity do unfortunately exist. From my experience, this is largely from first gen Australian families, as they don't like to marry outside of their culture, and even ethnicity (eg. only wanting Punjabi partners, not just Pak/Indian or Desi). Honestly, would the right person for you judge you because of your ethnicity? No!

    For me personally, education, character and deen are much more important to me than ethnicity when it comes to talking to men.

    Also, I don't know what you mean by participating in other Muslims cultures, but I am sure they'd really like this, as everybody loves to share their cultures. It could be easier if you make some friends from those ethnicities, who can bring you in naturally, but I'm sure if you went to events (eg. at uni), everyone would be really accepting.

    For example, any time I bring my non-Muslim friends to the musallah when I pray, everyone is so kind, friendly and welcoming to them. As someone who is Muslim, I'm sure they'd be even more kind to you! As a minority group, we always get excited meeting other Muslims, and it's honestly one of the easiest ways to make friends.

    Also, even among Arabs for eg. there are many who can appear white passing, so I'm sure you won't stand out. Even if you do though, it's only cool! As its testament to you making the decision to convert to Islam versus just being born into it.

    Also, other comments mention this, but you're 19 and have reverted recently.

    I'd definitely try to make some good friends and create a supportive circle before looking at marriage. I know it can feel like there's lots of pressure to get married quickly, but I'd hate for you to be taken advantage of, as you seem like a very genuine person.

    Only thing to be careful of are the extreme /ly conservative Muslims. I have friends whose parents were unfortunately sucked into conservative cults after converting, as they were taken advantage of while trying to strengthen their deen.

    Most people aren't like that, of course, but if something feels off or makes you uncomfortable, trust your gut.

    My DM's are open if you'd like to talk about any Aussie-specific concerns (although do note that I am female). I've been pretty active in the MSA communities at university, and would be happy to help you out/ try to connect you with people from them.

  • No actually care about you ethnicity or skin color as long as your Muslim

    The prophet peace be upon him

    O people, your Lord is One. There is no superiority for an Arab over a non-Arab, nor for a non-Arab over an Arab, nor for a "ahmar" person (refer to white) over a black person, nor for a black person over a "Ahmar" person, except through piety. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of God is the most pious of you.

  • Wa'Alaikum Assalaam! I'm having a wonderful day and insha'Allah you are too!

    It has quite literally nothing to do with colour, and purely to do with culture and with the mutual familiarity and adaptation of you and others' practices and ideologies. At the mosque I go to, there are native Irish, Chechnyan, and other non-typically-associated-with-Islam ethnicities, and they don't stand out because colour is not something I or others I know tend to think of.

    You'd have a much higher chance of standing out if you're taller than average, or if your moustache is exceptionally long, before your skin makes an impression.

    Now I will say, I've come across countless people online who are genuinely racist but refuse to admit it, with racial preferences, and you ought to be thankful if someone makes it clear to you that they think in such a way, as it saves you the time of mistakenly associating yourself with them.

    Good luck to you and your efforts, from your language and tone alone I suspect you're a kind soul with great character

  • I wouldn't worry about it too much.

    1. You're 19, you are probably not going to get married any time soon. That means you have time to build yourself networks so people know you as a person, not just as "the white revert".

    2. I'm in my 40's. Most of the girls you're going to look to marry will likely have parents in their 40's or early 50's. I was born and raised in the UK. When I am asked to consider someone for my daughter, race is going to be right down the bottom of the list. Any sensible parents wants to see...

    • Is this guy a decent human being, what are his values like, is he caring
    • Is he a practicing Muslim
    • Does he have a decent income, does he have a place of his own
    • What are his family like? What is their background?

    I'd much rather my daughter marry someone outside of my race who has a decent family, rather than a Pakistani guy who has drug dealer cousins who he chills with.

    Don't get it twisted, you will face challenges.

    • Some people, especially those born abroad but living in western countries, are still racist.
    • Are your family non Muslim? Most Muslim cultures have larger extended families and we mix with each other regularly on occasions. I'd be cautious about the impact of non Muslim relatives on my future grandkids.
    • Some people will wonder if you're just in it for the girl, or if your sincere about your faith.
    • People will wonder how much you really "get" their culture, how open you'll be with engaging with them. White Anglo Saxon culture (Brits, Canadians, Americans, Aussies and Kiwis) - you all have the "nuclear" family, we get the sense that beyond that, nobody else really matters. My kids and their cousins are inseparable.

    Long story short, yeah you will face some challenges, but it's not the end of the world. If you raise your profile in your local community, become a social butterfly, let people know who you are, engage with your family so they're more aware of your religious values and boundaries and are comfortable respecting them, learn about the cultures you want to mix into (I guess in Australia its Lebanese or Desi). You'll give yourself a fighting chance.

  • Shouldn’t be talking to Muslim girls to begin with. Start with a mahram. Also, focus on yourself and establish yourself in the religion before you think about marriage. You’re young and have a lifetime ahead of you inshaAllah. May Allah make it easy on you.

  • I wish that this was my only problem..

    dude im a israeli revert :((((((

    I'll be real, if someone discriminates against you bc of your nationality/ the place you were born, they're not worth your time either, as you have no control over this.

    May Allah make it easy for you.

    jzkhlair for your kind words it mean much.

    both most people insult me right away

    That’s rough… may Allah swt make it easy for you

    I'll keep you in my duas, inshallah you find a righteous wife. 

    Try asking the imam of your local masjid, they usually know many families and may be able to help connect you. 

    The Prophet was married to a Muslim Israelite, and when someone attacked her heritage he defended it in such a beautiful way

    https://sunnah.com/urn/737820

    'She said: 'Hafsah said to me that I am the daughter of a Jew.' So the Prophet (ﷺ) said: 'And you are the daughter of a Prophet, and your uncle is a Prophet, and you are married to a Prophet, so what is she boasting to you about?' Then he said: 'Fear Allah, O Hafsah.'"

    The husband is the Prophet Muhammad SAW, the uncle and father are the prior historical Israelite prophets, showing her honorable descent.

    Introducing yourself as an Israeli revert isn’t going to help you much tbh

    Say Palestinian instead and the reactions are bound to be different since the illegitimacy of Israeli state is set in stone for Muslims.

    Then I'm lying ? I have a Israeli passport i'm adopted by a israeli family ?? They are not from Palestine

  • 11 dms hahaha - I think you said the magic word which is "white". I think that should calm your fear about not being able to get married because of your skin color. 

  • Try not to worry too much - there are so so many mixed marriages these days - I'm in one myself. You'll be fine, just be patient and you'll find the right woman. Feel free to DM me if you want to chat more about mixed marriages etc.

  • I know a Pakistani family who’s daughter married an Australian revert and has a son now and the family is lovely, why I’m saying this is because many south Asian families don’t allow their children to marry out of their ethnicities but it does depend on the family and also the women, it may be hard finding someone because you’re revert Australian but I know many girls now want to marry a white revert especially women of colour so don’t worry about not finishing someone because there is someone for you!!

  • Salam, I understand your point, but Islam has no space for racism. Your skin color is not a problem if someone fears Allah SWT, they will accept you for who you are. You’re only 19 years old, so I would recommend focusing on building yourself financially, mentally, and physically because marriage is both a responsibility and a duty. It is generally a bigger obligation on a man than on a woman.

  • Ohhh my shayla🥹 we would be besties if you lived in Georgia

  • Walikumsalaam, Subhanallah welcome to the deen Mash-Allah. I hope you are well.

    You seem to be worrying too much about something that's not in your control. I can understand your anxiety but believe me the Muslim community in general is very welcoming. Believe you me people looking for future prospects for their daughters normally want a good Muslim. Your personality should shine through no matter what the colour of your skin is. There is a shortage of good Muslim men I feel it's like a needle in a hay stack, if you are truly believing Allah the Almighty will bless you with your future life partner. Surah An-Naba Verse 8 'And we created you in pairs'.

  • many won’t marry out of their culture even if the other person is similar colour. its more about culture and upbringing than colour, not that colour isn’t a factor to some.

    don’t be hung up on it. try looking for other reverts, and just put yourself out there as looking for marriage with your local masjid. inshallah someone will come along.

  • Hey salam bro, don't worry about that. Some people definitely have those thoughts, but even more people want to marry white reverts to the point that it's almost fetishization. Those are the real people who you may want to be wary off.

  • Hey bro, Muslim from born and raised in Aus here. I don't think this is a problem you have to worry about to be completely honest. There's lots of reverts getting married to "born muslim" families for the most part people are open to it especially if there born and raised here and there families have been here for a few generations.

  • Waalaikum salam, hey my brother! I'm American and I am very white with a very traditional American name. I've managed to get married twice, I'm very happily married to my current wife and I have a beautiful daughter. Have trust in Allah and know you are still young, you have time to find someone.

  • Go for a white muslim girl then. You are not obliged to look for people from other cultures.

    Not my type ✋😔

    While it is open and allowed to have your preferences, I hope you won't make it hard on yourself by eliminating white women altogether. But you're 19, inch'Allah, you'll find the one white or not.

    This is honestly the red flag I’d be worried about. Not you being white. 

    The irony...

    It's not that ironic; he doesn't seem to like being white himself.

    People don't like the more random things about themselves.

  • It's funny you say this since I just got off a call with my friend who was crying cause she wants to marry a white boy and can't find any Muslim ones

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  • Sadly youll find the opposite, where quite a few fetishise white skin. May Allah make it easy to you find a pious and righteous wife.

  • Well don't worry about that you maybe someone else type.

  • Bro you are over thinking it to much, we are all humans no matter how you look. Just be yourself and keep moving forward.

  • Brother we only fear Allah. If you ask him for a righteous wife and you stay patient allah will provide inshallah. Take the fear out of your heart and place your trust in Allah.

    I’m the meantime learn the religion to the best of your ability

    Salamualkum

  • Walaikum musalam akhi,

    Fellow Aussie here. I would be bold enough to say that your ethnicity is actually a bonus rather than a disadvantage. There are definitely many women/families that would prefer to be “within” their culture. But there are also many that would be accepting, especially with the blessings that come with marrying a revert Muslim and teaching them Islam.

    You need to go through the proper channels though my brother. Tell your local mosque that you’re looking to get married and inshallah they may sort you out. If you’re in Sydney, I’d be happy to get you in contact with people I know.

    Hope that helps 👍

  • There are australian muslims? You only want arabs or something? Idk why you say muslim girls like they cant be white

  • Eastern Europeans like Albanians or Bulgarians are filled with Muslims and are just as white as you are. Muslims come in all colours, shapes, and sizes lol. I have Muslim German, Filipino, Mexican, Japanese, and Indian friends. You’re not an outcast for being white

  • There are Muslims with white skin such as me. Maybe you are surrounded by Pakistanis, Indians etc.. no need to be concerned about it, your rizq and your nasib will come in time

  • I promise you a lot of us don’t care! Hope you find your princess one day 🥳

  • I’m a brown girl from the UK, married to a white revert. My family happily accepted my husband and he has integrated into our culture well. In shaa Allah you will be completely fine when you’re ready to get married.

  • LOLLLL OH BOY the Desi folks fein for white skin, you’ll be fine

    Truth. Almost every man I talked to for marriage mentioned my pale skin. I never heard about my skin when I talk to Americans

    Yeah desis are hella colourists, hella sad cause brown skin is beautiful but oh well

    Yeah my husband isn’t Desi but African. He mentioned after the summer he was so dark— I don’t really see a difference?? I guess I’m used to people tanning and it fading out naturally. I burn so I rarely am in the sun.

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  • Please try to meet a white revert like yourself. Intercultural marriages are difficult

  • Brother, regarding your edit… let’s keep our tongues clean and remember Allah even in moments of surprise… better to say something that brings reward instead of words tied to Jahannam

  • Im pretty sure majority of Muslim women prefer white men so you're fine

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    the confidence to say that 90% of muslim women would choose a white man is insane. my god