Aww. They used the cutesy (D)ifferent "joke" to make it seem like both sides are the same. Why do they always bring up Clinton anyway? If he is guilty, then he should be held accountable. Why wouldn't he?
They disavow Bush and Cheney so hard you'd swear no one ever voted for them but can't seem to grasp that just about everyone on the left wouldn't give a shit if Clinton were arrested tomorrow.
True. Also it's getting to the point where Clinton was a pretty long time ago. The last time anyone had the chance to vote for him was in 1996, so the youngest possible Clinton voters are 47 now.
Add in the fact that a lot of people don't vote at all when their young, and that many people change party allegiance over time, and I wouldn't be surprised if fewer than half of Democratic voters today ever voted for Bill Clinton.
And even fewer than that worship him like a cult leader. Just another example of how both sides are NOT the same. People on the Left won't and don't try to move heaven and earth to defend the indefensible, even if the person in question is "on their team". Can't say the same about the other side.
Bill Clinton isn't even on the Left. He's a fucking center-right ghoul who destroyed the welfare system. Not that it matters, he could be a Leninist fanatic, he should probably be in jail for sex crimes.
The right follow groups. Everyone in their group by definition are good. And all 'those people' are automatically bad, no matter what even if one of them find the cure for cancer.
The left follow ideals. If a leader fails to deliver on those ideals they are no longer a leader of the left.
So true. My favorite writer used to be Neil Gaiman. I had signed books from meeting him at a book reading. I even dressed up as one of his characters at comic conventions.
Once he was revealed to be a horrible person, he can die in a hole for all I care. His fans were largely lefty and overnight the whole fan base turned on him.
It boggles my mind that anyone wouldn't condemn someone for such evil acts.
Whataboutism is their greatest "defense." It's all about deflection and projection.
Their people can't be the problem. If they were, then they'd have to admit that they were wrong. They can't fathom the idea that someone would actually be okay with being wrong.
The democrats can look back and say, "Bill Clinton is probably not innocent, and we were wrong to have ever supported him." We were wrong. We learn from our mistakes and move on accordingly.
They refuse to learn. So, admitting they were wrong is just a failure on their part. No adaptation.
How can someone possibly be okay with being a "failure"?
It’s about to get fun, Bill just sent a demand letter to the White House telling them to immediately release everything tied to him NOW, not later, immediately. He clearly isn’t hiding and he called out Bondi by name over the current release schedule
I am actually trying to think if there are any pictures of Clinton and Epstein. All we've seen is him and Maxwell, and Maxwell was dating one of his friends for a while so it makes sense that we see pictures of her and him together.
Clinton is a perv but he clearly likes adult women, not kids.
Even if he likes teens that are underaged, he’s saying release the files, so either Bill knows he’s clean (in comparison) or he doesn’t care and is ready to open the check book or roll the dice in court, but at the end of the day he clearly isn’t on board with this admin’s coverup which clearly the administration didn’t expect.
I think there are pics of Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, and Jeff Epstein together, and hope that Bill keeps hounding the WH to release all them. Then keep pushing the point that all 3 of them are together doing the same thing. Whether that be dining, standing around at a gala, lounging on a beach, etc
I guess if you’re the type of person who condemns the wrongdoing of your political opponents but goes to great lengths to excuse or even support the exact same behavior when it’s done by your political allies, you just assume everyone else works like that too
If he is guilty, then he should be held accountable. Why wouldn't he?
Absolutely agree, However at this point we know he is not.
Trump has so much nothing that he had to black out the faces of a family that took public pictures with Clinton in a hotel and pretend they were in a pool standing in a hallway on epstiens island.
The GOP has so much nothing that the biggest thing they got from him was cheating on his wife and having power over Monica Lewinsky when she was 22 and he was 49.
Everyone has been over this families life with a fine tooth comb.
There is nothing. It would have been found by now and the GOP would be ejaculating it everywhere.
The simple fact is Clinton is a sex pest that goes after adult women and should not see another day in office. He should have restraining orders filed against him by the women he pesters.
They think this is 2016 and the opponent (in all meanings of the word) is someone named Clinton.
It feels like they don't actually believe the victory over Hillary was real. Or maybe because they lost the popular vote they still feel the need to prove themselves against that old opponent.
Of course, it is totally reasonable to consider a husband and wife to be a single unit. So her judgment in staying or supporting him does matter when choosing a leader. So I don't know a out you, but I won't be voting for Hillary Clinton on the next election!
No, honest answer is that they know its not true- but they want to reinforce a false equivalency that the "left protects pedophiles just like the right does", when the reality is that Republicans have become a party of pedophile protectors.
It's like saying "why aren't you condemning the violence of trans mass shooters" because there ARE none, but they want the messaging to be constantly bombarded at the public even though it's a lie.
Repeat that McDonalds skimps on the beef and they'll go to Burger King after enough advertising, even if a whopper has less beef than a big Mac.
Nobody else here seems to be getting this! The Right understands perfectly well we do not worship our politicians the way they do with Trump. But they can't admit out loud that they're mindless followers because it ruins their independent free thinker image. As with everything else, they're just lying.
A lot of these people are old so they remember Democratic supporters defending Bill Clinton while he was president. These people miss that:
Democrats thought the impeachment hearings were hypocritical because Newt Gingrich cheated on his first wife in 1980 with a campaign staffer and we would later learn Newt Gingrich was even having an affair with a staffer while pursuing Clinton's impeachment.
Democrats recognised Republicans were only pursuing impeachment to undermine Clinton's policies rather than any actual moral objection.
Democrats thought the impeachment hearings were unjustified because what Clinton did with Monica Lewinsky was unsavoury but not illegal.
Democrats in the years since, particularly younger Democrats take sexual misconduct far more seriously now than they did then. We would not likely defend Clinton now. See Al Franken.
Democrats even at the time would have never defended allegations of pedophilia. Monika Lewinsky might have been a victim due to the power dynamic at play but she was an adult and the sex acts were consensual. It's morally wrong but hardly illegal and cannot be compared to the rape of a child or children.
These people are trying to create a false equivalence because they know their position is indefensible. They realise Trump is a pedophile but they are so ingrained in the cult they still support him. Fuck every last Republican or person that refuses to even vote against them.
Oh no, I'll have to get rid of my Bill Clinton™ hat, my Bill Clinton™ shoes, my Bill Clinton™ Bible, my Bill Clinton™ shirts, my Bill Clinton™ phone, my Bill Clinton™ watch and my Bill Clinton™ flags.
It stems from a physical inability to empathize with others. They literally cannot view the world through anyone else's eyes, so in their minds since they are the "heroes" of their own story, no matter how bad their side is, the other side must be even worse.
They confuse protagonist with hero, but also don't realize that a protagonist of a story doesn't have to be heroic in any way. It's why we see them get so confused when media has an unreliable or amoral protagonist and they complain about it.
But also, a lot of them really have victim and hero complexes. Sometimes simultaneously. It's kind of insane to see from the outside.
Or they unironically idolize the anti-hero. I've always said that Tony Soprano helped normalize Trump. And yeah, they love the Punisher, the God Emperor from WH40k, Elon Luther, I mean Lex and more.
I was roped in at first as well. I thought Tony was this paragon of the masculinity that my times had projected on me. I thought Skylar was a bitch. But eventually I got it. Walter wasn't cool. Tony was a fucking derelict hulk of toxicity. The Joker was just fucking crazy. For a lot of these folks, they never had that moment and still think these characters are legit to be idolized and emulated
Re-watching Breaking Bad after having seen Walter White's entire character arc a decade ago when it first aired was eye-opening. There were so many red flags that I had hand-waved away, but couldn't be ignored the second time around. I can only hope MAGA followers get to the point of recognizing those red flags.
But also, a lot of them really have victim and hero complexes. Sometimes simultaneously.
Abrahamic religion is one hell of a drug. Literally the same stereotype from Muslims to Catholics to Protestants to Jews. They're all based on a dual victim/hero stereotype so when you're indoctrinated from birth to form a world view around these stories it's no wonder you end up adopting the same mindset.
They have similar issues with Star Trek. They think it’s all Kirk banging green women and it’s really not. He’s actually pretty respectful for a 60’s guy and the shows are rife with LGBTQ characters.
They do and it's hilarious. "Why is Star Trek woke now?!" You mean the show that used to feature very blatant, impossible to miss allegories about the Civil Rights movement, racism, sexism, and geopolitics with a liberal leaning solution every time? That Star Trek?
Media literacy has gotten terrible. Even to the point where The Boys had to just come out and explicitly tell the audience their point because so many people were missing it.
That's not representative of their inability to empathize, but their outrageous self-righteousness. Their inability to empathize, their inability to imagine a different perspective, is shown by their insistence that because they worship their candidate, surely the left must do the same thing!
It's also why they're so convinced that the left wants to destroy them and any means are justified to keep Democrats out of power, cheating and even terrorism included: because they salivate over killing Democrats, and they cannot comprehend that their opponents don't think the same way about them.
I disagree. They have been told that the people who they should be empathizing with are people who are causing all their problems. Listen to conservative media. Their problems are due to poor people, minorities, immigrants or Democrats or government or BIDEN. Are they wrong not to empathize with people who are actively causing their problems?
Yes. Because their solution is concentration camps, torture, rape, and murder.
They aren't even focused on the right thing causing their problems, just blindly believing fox about what minorities to hate this week without looking into how their own government is fucking them and their kids.
Basically, they're thick as pigshit. They don't empathise, they don't get irony, they don't understand hypocrisy. I'm yet to hear of one redeeming trait really.
woooo that explains my mother in everything! theory of mind. helps going nc with her maga abusive enabling ass easier. that was a key i needed thank you
The Gish gallop is a rhetorical fallacy where a debater overwhelms an opponent with a rapid-fire barrage of many weak, false, or irrelevant arguments, making it impossible for the opponent to refute them all in the time available, thereby appearing to win by sheer volume.
These accounts are also massively bot-pushed. And coordinated attacks to muddy discourse and downplay the evidence that comes to light in the future that is damaging to their followers and base.
They know what they are doing.
They have control of House, Senate, Presidency, Supreme Court, Military and more because they have been doing it for years.
While we are pointing at them and going "Haha look at these morons and their weak bs arguments" they are ensuring millions get overwhelmed and dont care to seek truth and facts, because they assume both sides are bad at worst or that the accusations are false and continue watching their favorite propaganda channel undisturbed by the fact that billionaires and powerful men raped children for decades and their president is one of them...
Agreed.
The reason Trump figured the Democrats somehow cheated and rigged the vote in 2020 is that Trump himself would have done that given the means and opportunity.
The reason for the whole “Biden crime family” is the Trump crime family. Don Sr., Don Jr., and Eric are profiting off Don Sr’s position and are bleeding the country dry, with the help of Ivanka and Jared.
The reason for the Hunter Biden laptop is that 1. Trump illegally threatened to withhold already-approved foreign aid to Ukraine unless the Ukrainians invented something illegal against Hunter, and 2. What was actually on Hunter’s laptop made them insanely jealous (or envious, like MTG).
And on and on it goes. Every time they accuse the Democrats of doing something illegal it’s because they already have done that. They can’t imagine anyone acting out of concern for the good of anybody else, because the concept is foreign to them, like Trump making fun of soldiers who died heroically, asking “what did they get out of it?”
Not “would have” he DID do that! He tried to rig the 2020 election himself, and there are Republicans who said he tried to get them to send fake electors who would say Trump won instead of Biden, but they refused. Specifically Arizona. When the Gov of Arizona refused and Trump realized he lost, that’s when he started the narrative that the Dems rigged the election.
You can only continue to support Trump if you exist completely within a MAGA-only information bubble. Like this Kevin Dalton person never saw anybody trying to make excuses for Bill Clinton (because it just doesn't happen) but believes it's a thing because it's easier than trying to make more excuses for all the Trump with victims pictures.
They think everyone is treating politics like a sports team. Hey MAGA, no one else wasted money on any flags, hats, Bibles, watches, socks, sneakers, phone cases, or cologne from a politician.
I was walking through DC the night of her last big rally before the election, walked down to see what was going on. There were a number of people selling swag, but it was nowhere near as big a seller as I'd expect a Trump rally was. More than anything I saw buttons being sold.
I would be disappointed to find out Obama was in the Epstein files, simply because he’s the only living former President that I feel like had any sort of dignity. With that being said, if it came to pass that he did have anything to do with that abhorrent mess, lock his ass up, too! Anybody who had anything to do with participating or covering up Epstein island and all of the dealings that went on there needs to be held accountable.
My vacation to the Donald J. Trump and Bill Clinton and John F. Kennedy Memorial Center for the Performing Arts, the Bill Clinton Institute of Peace, the Bill Clinton addition of the White House, the Bill Clinton State Park, the President Bill Clinton Highway, the Bill Clinton Justice Complex, President Bill Clinton Boulevard, and President Bill Clinton Avenue, United States Square in honor of President Bill Clinton, the Clinton Route for International Peace and Prosperity, all to seee the giant banners of Bill Clinton hung on federal buildings will have to be cancelled now!
I guess I'll have to go to national parks instead, using my America the Beautiful National Park pass featuring George Washington and Bill Clinton on it, instead. I’ll be using my Treasury Department to deposit into "Bill Clinton Account."
I'll withdraw those in Bill Clinton coins.
I'll go through the former Dulles International Airport, which, as far as I know, is set to be named the Bill Clinton International Airport.
To get there, I'll use the Bill Clinton Metro, which I'm sure it will be named after the legislation goes through.
If I'm lucky, I'll be there in time to see Bill Clinton on Mt. Rushmore.
But it makes total sense. If you believe what is out there now, the only people on the Island were Democrats, the pages of redacted names and images were just to protect victims. then those cheating Democrats are at it again.
I just said this same thing to my husband… idgaf who’s in there… let them all answer. And to the people who think he had “a lot of other business dealings outside of human trafficking and maybe it’s unrelated…”. You could be Bill Gates or you could be Melinda Gates in this situation. You don’t have to have anything to do with any of these monsters and just walk the fuck away and take your business elsewhere. Everyone knew what he was. Fuck him, fuck all of them.
I see so many MAGA people saying this on places like r/conservative or on X or whatever, yet you notice they never actually have a quote or a screenshot of any liberal saying anything remotely close to what they are saying about Trump. A liberal who tried to be like "Well Bill is just in pictures with young girls this doesn't prove anything" or "Bill was obviously just a double agent, he would never do this" would be voted down to hell with a hundred comments calling them out.
I don't give a shit about any democratic politician enough to not want them to rot in jail if they are even pedophile adjacent, like even if they didn't do anything but they saw things and didn't report or helped cover up or whatever, put them in prison. Put the entire congress in prison if it goes that deep. PURGE THEM ALL.
I agree. As far as Clinton himself though, the more they yell about him the more I think he's not in there. So far they've released this picture, which was found to be a hotel pool that has nothing to do with Epstein, and the picture of him with Michael Jackson and Michael Jackson's own children with their faces redacted that was a publicly available photo from an event.
Not to mention the Epstein files themselves, either they redacted the parts with Clinton in them too (and why would they?) or he simply wasn't in them. If something does come out that he's guilty though, yeah fuck him and anyone else in there.
They already tried implying Clinton was with minor victims in a picture with Michael Jackson & Diana Ross where minors were redacted.
Turns out the redacted minors were Diana Ross' son and Michael Jackson's children. The picture was taken in Washington DC during a completely unrelated charity event and the unreacted image has been on Getty images for years.
If they had a real smoking gun on Clinton they would be waiving it around loudly with a minimal redactions possible so that it was apparent what the pictured showed. (Same is unfortunately true of Trump. He will likely have been found to have been more associated than he has claimed to be but if a smoking gun existed Biden/Harris would have used it for 2024 election.)
It’s important to keep perspective, Epstein collected high-profile contacts. Don’t let MAGA act like Donald was another John, he was Epstein’s partner. Don’t let them use “both sides” to distract. All the guilty parties need to be held accountable, Donald’s removal from power must be the first priority for that to happen.
Tbh you shouldn't have to qualify that though. You shouldn't have to defend yourself "defending" a legal scapegoat, regardless of his personal sins. Back in, say, the nineties, even under Bush, Trump's admin would see legal repercussions for even trying to plant this evidence.
If this whole fiasco were all contained within a real legal case, that would be a big no no and get Trump's defense in huge trouble. I'm pretty sure falsifying evidence would be a bigger deal than perjury even
100%, it's not about the effort to defend Clinton, no one gives a fuck about him, it's about finding the lie because it's trump after all, it's expected and usually stupidly lazy, so not only is it criminal it's also incompetent, that is worth the effort.
All the criminal activity caused by the Epstein pedophilia ring didn't necessarily have to occur on that one island though. Clinton is still innocent until proven guilty but I also don't think this pool being at a hotel in a tiny country in Asia absolves him of the accusation. This happened during a non-business trip in 2002 and that's Ghislaine Maxwell in that pool with him. The situation doesn't make a good case for Bill's innocence.
Absolutely. What does make it more questionable is that we've already caught them redacting one fundraising pic with known kids who were not victims, to make it look like he was with victims, so now anything that cant be confirmed is suspect.
Maxwell says she never saw or knew of Bill doing anything bad. Her interview transcripts were released and from the interview Blanche seems to talk a lot about everyone else, including Bill, trying to get some sort of information about their wrongdoing. Of course, he glosses over questions about Trump and Maxwell even thanks the administration for finally talking to her.
She said Bill Clinton was her friend, not Epstein's, and the only chance he might've gotten to do anything wrong was during the plane ride which they had a personal masseuse room (she says she never saw anything of course) but she also said Epstein was the only one that did inappropriate stuff there.
He did ask her about Epstein's suicide, which she believes just like most, that he didn't kill himself but she doesn't point fingers and only says in prison it's cheap to put out hits.
I know Maxwell isn't a great source, but with the little amount of evidence against Bill and everything mostly being inferred/suggested, he's right about him being a scapegoat.
pretty sure within the context of all the added files (like the one with Diana Ross' children redacted and the photo edited to make it look like something else), it is, in fact, enough to say 'innocent,' since, if the losers had any actual evidence, they'd release it and not try to doctor normal photos to look incriminating.
I'm pretty sure the planted photo's are to create doubt over the rest. It's not like there's a lack evidence against slick Willy. They're just trying to muddy the waters.
There's also no information on who is in it with him. The conservative subreddit tried to use this image with a headline "Bill Clinton nearly naked in hot tub" and got roasted for it. How else does someone spend time in a damn hot tub?
The only credit I can offer is that at least most of the people in that thread were like "Half naked? How else would you be in a hot tub?" There were also users on there calling out how weird it was that there were no people really talking about the Epstein Files that were released. Yeah, how fucking weird.
Yea, this is the issue, they can redact things to merely make them look more insidious than they are... DOJ is redacting half of all the details, removing images previously verified, and adding images that aren't even related to Epstein. Yet we are expected to just trust this bullshit.
Until the complete collection of data is released, we don't know what the hell is going on, but, considering who's running the show, the default assumption is that every redaction is related to Trump or other Republicans... Which tells me, there is a shit load of evidence that will burn Trump's administration, and GOP, to the ground.
One day maybe we'll learn the truth but their fear of releasing all the info is, in itself, extremely damning.
Honestly, being Democrat, Independent, Republican or any other political faction is irrelevant. This isn’t a politics issue, it’s a moral one on right versus wrong. I don’t know why I keep having this same conversation with MAGA supporters. Like trying to justify or excuse rapists is disgusting, no matter what side you’re on.
Exactly. If he's guilty, then he's guilty. IDGAF, just provide actual evidence not irrelevant photos from some random hotel pool. This isn't some "gotcha" game. There are real human victims and MAGAts are think they're playing some team sport or something.
The pool picture is the Empire Resort in Brunei. The hot tub might be the same location, not enough in the photo to fully tell. Either way, look at the laws on the books in Brunei - definitely not where you would go to diddle kiddies. Or diddle anyone for that matter.
They are particularly disappointed with the Left chucking Chomsky like he was on fire after the photos of him palling around with Epstein after his first conviction.
People are acting like Clinton didn’t get impeached for his Lewinsky BJ. He left office with a shaved head and everyone throwing rotten vegetables at his face. We used to be a proper country
And… technically it wasn’t perjury, even if it was twisting the truth into pretzels. He was asked whether he had had sex with Lewinsky, he asked for a definition of sex, he was given an extremely convoluted definition that he managed to construe to exclude blowjobs, and conferred with his lawyer before saying that the answer was no. Famously, he later defended himself with It depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is.
Let’s put Trump under oath and ask him if he has had sexual contact with a minor…
Sure, the FBI investigation should ask Tiffany if Clinton was also among the rapists, but it seems that some accomplice after the fact has applied black over the whole FBI investigation.
My only hope in life right now is before I die some form of actual justice is done for Katie Johnson, Maria, and every other unnamed boy and girl these monsters abused and the systems refused to help.
Every one of them deserve worse than death and the systems dismantled and rebuilt.
Outrageous a president that lies and about adultery no less!!
It’s a good thing that the Republicans have the courage and moral fortitude to hold any adulterers in us politics to account regardless of their political affiliation.
Now what’s this I’ve been hearing about Miss Daniel’s and the orange mushroom???
If you need things to be separated, when we hang everyone involved, the Dems on the list can all be hung upside down for pretending to be the 'good guys'
No one should be obsessed with political candidates like that, except maybe historians or political analysts, but that’s in a different way.
Politics should be something everyone cares about, enough to know what’s going on and what your candidates actually stand for but not to the point and making a political candidate your entire personality.
If Bill Clinton did anything sexual with children, throw his ass in prison right alongside Trump.
But also, at least some of these pictures are misleading propaganda. And at least a couple of cases they've taken completely innocent pictures of Clinton with celebrities and their children at public fundraising events, and redacted the faces of the children to make it look sinister.
The obvious intent is to deflect attention away from Trump's culpability. The entire Republican party has now committed itself to a conspiracy to protect a child rapist.
And again, if Clinton is a child rapist, show us the actual evidence and throw his ass in prison. Stop hiding in the obvious evidence about Trump, and throw his ass in prison too. Show us the complete unredacted files, and the contents of all those disks, and throw all their asses in prison.
This photo is literally Clinton in a public pool. It's all a smokescreen. If there were really big dirt on Clinton it would be displayed on a banner outside the White House right now. He's an adulterer and a creep, but that seems to be the beginning and the end of it.
MAGA's don't think like that, they would be happy if all the republicans in the files got to walk and democrats went to jail. They don't care if their guys are guilty as long as they get to own the libs.
Conservatives will never stop pushing the narrative that we worship Bill Clinton because, that way, their dumbfuck base doesn't have to feel bad about sucking Trump's dick so hard. It's as simple as that. Look at anything conservatives post about things Democrats/leftists allegedly do and it's all memes & shitty Ben Garrison-style comics that are such overblown bullshit that calling them strawmen is insulting to actual scarecrows. They never actually show any proof of us doing the stupid shit they attribute to us, either, which is wild because you'd think they'd be able to find at least one post of someone melting down over Clinton, but they can't!
Seriously, has anyone seen anything in defense of Clinton? I don't care what you're affiliation is. If you are a pedophile or rapist you belong in jail. Trump can blow Bubba all he wants at Rikers.
Here's my defense of Clinton; if you trust the trump administration's handling of the files then you (general) are idiots. We've already seen at least two redacted pics that were complete garbage so why trust this pic is with a "victim"?
They hear us say we give zero fucks about Clinton, lock him up if he's guilty. They absolutely hear it. They just don't care. It's fun for them to continue the narrative that we would defend Clinton as hard as they're defending Trump, not because they actually believe it, but because they think saying it makes us squirm and freak out. And nothing gives a MAGAt a chubby faster than being able to tell themselves that they upset a lib somehow.
So it doesn't matter how many times we point out that we're not deranged fans of politicians like they are, or that we don't care what political party anyone belongs to if they're diddling kids. They will take any reaction from us at all and change it to "hirk hirk, I made a libturd cry, hirky dirk!" We could literally throw a party and they'll tell themselves we're upset.
It just screams small dick energy from the party that worships the orange mushroom.
We've seen a hell lot of fully blacked out pictures and very few pics of Democrats. I assume if any registered democrats were on those pictures they would not be blacked out.
The right cant understand that dems r not operating off the same cult logic as them. They will never be able to admit the truth about their leader and they expect dems to do the same.
so weird that folks are like he is a Republican lump hom in or he is a Democrat lump him in.
as if ppl can't spot an ahole or monster regardless of political standing. pur eprojection when you lump ppl toghether like that. "it's what we/I do, so surely everybody else does."
nope a monster is a monster a perv is a perv and a criminal is a criminal. if you diminish their actions due to political affiliation, not only are you a shallow nincompoop, but also an idiot.
They just don't get it. Just because he was once President does not make him some figure of eternal worship for the Left. I honestly forget he exists until he turns up at some important political event/funeral.
If he's on the list I want him in court. If my own mother was on the list I'd want her in court. Are there probably people on that list it'll really disappoint me to find out about? Sure, but I still want them properly investigated and judged in court. Those girls (now women) deserve justice.
I havent once seen ANYONE defend Bill Clinton, but Ive heard so many MAGA(mostly bot accounts based in russia and bangladesh) Complain about dems defending Clinton.
Aww. They used the cutesy (D)ifferent "joke" to make it seem like both sides are the same. Why do they always bring up Clinton anyway? If he is guilty, then he should be held accountable. Why wouldn't he?
I guess they think he is currently president?
I mean who can even begin to guess what goes on in the mind of a lunatic?
They disavow Bush and Cheney so hard you'd swear no one ever voted for them but can't seem to grasp that just about everyone on the left wouldn't give a shit if Clinton were arrested tomorrow.
True. Also it's getting to the point where Clinton was a pretty long time ago. The last time anyone had the chance to vote for him was in 1996, so the youngest possible Clinton voters are 47 now.
Add in the fact that a lot of people don't vote at all when their young, and that many people change party allegiance over time, and I wouldn't be surprised if fewer than half of Democratic voters today ever voted for Bill Clinton.
And even fewer than that worship him like a cult leader. Just another example of how both sides are NOT the same. People on the Left won't and don't try to move heaven and earth to defend the indefensible, even if the person in question is "on their team". Can't say the same about the other side.
Bill Clinton isn't even on the Left. He's a fucking center-right ghoul who destroyed the welfare system. Not that it matters, he could be a Leninist fanatic, he should probably be in jail for sex crimes.
I don't understand why they think Clinton is some kind of left wing icon.
Bush/Cheney... Why would anyone even mention them??
We had a fantastic Golf War, and no reason at all why Bush only had one term.
Then Clinton destroyed the economy because it's what Clintons do.
Then Obama attacked the WTC.
Bush/Cheney saved us from brown people, especially the dirty, bearded ones.
Then Obama destroyed the housing market.
Obama started a war in Afghanistan for no reason at all.
Obama destroyed our health insurance!!!
Then Trump gave us the ACA.
And then Obama tried to poison us with Covid and take away the ACA for the much worse Obamacare.
This must be the Trump presidency, he's at war with golf rules everywhere.
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Golf war . . .
It's crazy that he's the same age as the current president but has been out of power for like 25 years.
Unrelated, he was president 30 YEARS AGO and is the same age as Trump. Get these old people out of government!
I guess it's hard to grasp retirement when your dear leader is out here visibly unwell and talking about acing his cognitive tests.
Repeted cognitive tests point to tracking disease progression. Not initial diagnosis.
Well women can't do anything, so it must have been Bill running Hillary's treasonous activities!!!
Also, Hillary made Bill do it because she's evil and treasonous.
And they have all the corrupt power in the world to stop Trump from saving us, but they are weak and can't stop the mighty Trump.
#ThanksObama
MAGA is a mental disease
Because they cannot fathom that the left wants to hold EVERYONE on that list accountable, not just political rivals.
The average MAGA could walk in on Trump diddling their own children and still mental gymnastics it into somehow being the Clintons' fault.
They would pull their kid away so they could suck his dick
The right follow groups. Everyone in their group by definition are good. And all 'those people' are automatically bad, no matter what even if one of them find the cure for cancer.
The left follow ideals. If a leader fails to deliver on those ideals they are no longer a leader of the left.
So true. My favorite writer used to be Neil Gaiman. I had signed books from meeting him at a book reading. I even dressed up as one of his characters at comic conventions.
Once he was revealed to be a horrible person, he can die in a hole for all I care. His fans were largely lefty and overnight the whole fan base turned on him.
It boggles my mind that anyone wouldn't condemn someone for such evil acts.
Projection.
Whataboutism is their greatest "defense." It's all about deflection and projection.
Their people can't be the problem. If they were, then they'd have to admit that they were wrong. They can't fathom the idea that someone would actually be okay with being wrong.
The democrats can look back and say, "Bill Clinton is probably not innocent, and we were wrong to have ever supported him." We were wrong. We learn from our mistakes and move on accordingly.
They refuse to learn. So, admitting they were wrong is just a failure on their part. No adaptation.
How can someone possibly be okay with being a "failure"?
It’s about to get fun, Bill just sent a demand letter to the White House telling them to immediately release everything tied to him NOW, not later, immediately. He clearly isn’t hiding and he called out Bondi by name over the current release schedule
I am actually trying to think if there are any pictures of Clinton and Epstein. All we've seen is him and Maxwell, and Maxwell was dating one of his friends for a while so it makes sense that we see pictures of her and him together.
Clinton is a perv but he clearly likes adult women, not kids.
Even if he likes teens that are underaged, he’s saying release the files, so either Bill knows he’s clean (in comparison) or he doesn’t care and is ready to open the check book or roll the dice in court, but at the end of the day he clearly isn’t on board with this admin’s coverup which clearly the administration didn’t expect.
Clinton has a clear preference, and it ain't anywhere close to under-development.
I think there are pics of Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, and Jeff Epstein together, and hope that Bill keeps hounding the WH to release all them. Then keep pushing the point that all 3 of them are together doing the same thing. Whether that be dining, standing around at a gala, lounging on a beach, etc
I guess if you’re the type of person who condemns the wrongdoing of your political opponents but goes to great lengths to excuse or even support the exact same behavior when it’s done by your political allies, you just assume everyone else works like that too
Absolutely agree, However at this point we know he is not.
Trump has so much nothing that he had to black out the faces of a family that took public pictures with Clinton in a hotel and pretend they
were in a poolstanding in a hallway on epstiens island.The GOP has so much nothing that the biggest thing they got from him was cheating on his wife and having power over Monica Lewinsky when she was 22 and he was 49.
Everyone has been over this families life with a fine tooth comb.
There is nothing. It would have been found by now and the GOP would be ejaculating it everywhere.
The simple fact is Clinton is a sex pest that goes after adult women and should not see another day in office. He should have restraining orders filed against him by the women he pesters.
Edit: Got two pictures mixed up fixed now.
“Diffe(R)ent”
Honest answer?
They think this is 2016 and the opponent (in all meanings of the word) is someone named Clinton.
It feels like they don't actually believe the victory over Hillary was real. Or maybe because they lost the popular vote they still feel the need to prove themselves against that old opponent.
Of course, it is totally reasonable to consider a husband and wife to be a single unit. So her judgment in staying or supporting him does matter when choosing a leader. So I don't know a out you, but I won't be voting for Hillary Clinton on the next election!
No, honest answer is that they know its not true- but they want to reinforce a false equivalency that the "left protects pedophiles just like the right does", when the reality is that Republicans have become a party of pedophile protectors.
It's like saying "why aren't you condemning the violence of trans mass shooters" because there ARE none, but they want the messaging to be constantly bombarded at the public even though it's a lie.
Repeat that McDonalds skimps on the beef and they'll go to Burger King after enough advertising, even if a whopper has less beef than a big Mac.
Nobody else here seems to be getting this! The Right understands perfectly well we do not worship our politicians the way they do with Trump. But they can't admit out loud that they're mindless followers because it ruins their independent free thinker image. As with everything else, they're just lying.
Oh, I don’t know, because they won’t hold their fellow Republicans accountable?
A lot of these people are old so they remember Democratic supporters defending Bill Clinton while he was president. These people miss that:
These people are trying to create a false equivalence because they know their position is indefensible. They realise Trump is a pedophile but they are so ingrained in the cult they still support him. Fuck every last Republican or person that refuses to even vote against them.
Deflection? A redherring? Whatabooutism? - All of those. The GOP is STILL scared to death of the BOOGEYMAN, long after he(and she) had left the arena.
Oh no, I'll have to get rid of my Bill Clinton™ hat, my Bill Clinton™ shoes, my Bill Clinton™ Bible, my Bill Clinton™ shirts, my Bill Clinton™ phone, my Bill Clinton™ watch and my Bill Clinton™ flags.
Woe is me!
MAGA truly doesn't understand that only MAGA worships their candidate. They project so much, it blinds them to reality itself.
It stems from a physical inability to empathize with others. They literally cannot view the world through anyone else's eyes, so in their minds since they are the "heroes" of their own story, no matter how bad their side is, the other side must be even worse.
The funniest thing about the people who think they are "the heroes of their own story" forget that a defining quality of heroes is empathy.
They confuse protagonist with hero, but also don't realize that a protagonist of a story doesn't have to be heroic in any way. It's why we see them get so confused when media has an unreliable or amoral protagonist and they complain about it.
But also, a lot of them really have victim and hero complexes. Sometimes simultaneously. It's kind of insane to see from the outside.
Or they unironically idolize the anti-hero. I've always said that Tony Soprano helped normalize Trump. And yeah, they love the Punisher, the God Emperor from WH40k, Elon Luther, I mean Lex and more.
I was roped in at first as well. I thought Tony was this paragon of the masculinity that my times had projected on me. I thought Skylar was a bitch. But eventually I got it. Walter wasn't cool. Tony was a fucking derelict hulk of toxicity. The Joker was just fucking crazy. For a lot of these folks, they never had that moment and still think these characters are legit to be idolized and emulated
Re-watching Breaking Bad after having seen Walter White's entire character arc a decade ago when it first aired was eye-opening. There were so many red flags that I had hand-waved away, but couldn't be ignored the second time around. I can only hope MAGA followers get to the point of recognizing those red flags.
Gestures wildly to characters like Homelander in The Boys.
Abrahamic religion is one hell of a drug. Literally the same stereotype from Muslims to Catholics to Protestants to Jews. They're all based on a dual victim/hero stereotype so when you're indoctrinated from birth to form a world view around these stories it's no wonder you end up adopting the same mindset.
I remember how upset they were with the latest Superman because of so many reasons (that they didn’t realize about Superman in the first place).
I remember that too and pretty much every problem they had was a long established trait of the character.
It's hard to take them seriously when they're complaining about a character that debuted in 1938 and acting like it's somehow new news and "woke".
They have similar issues with Star Trek. They think it’s all Kirk banging green women and it’s really not. He’s actually pretty respectful for a 60’s guy and the shows are rife with LGBTQ characters.
They do and it's hilarious. "Why is Star Trek woke now?!" You mean the show that used to feature very blatant, impossible to miss allegories about the Civil Rights movement, racism, sexism, and geopolitics with a liberal leaning solution every time? That Star Trek?
Media literacy has gotten terrible. Even to the point where The Boys had to just come out and explicitly tell the audience their point because so many people were missing it.
Stephen Miller’s a big Star Trek fan…
Donald loves the musical “Les Miz” but can’t explain the plot.
That's not representative of their inability to empathize, but their outrageous self-righteousness. Their inability to empathize, their inability to imagine a different perspective, is shown by their insistence that because they worship their candidate, surely the left must do the same thing!
It's also why they're so convinced that the left wants to destroy them and any means are justified to keep Democrats out of power, cheating and even terrorism included: because they salivate over killing Democrats, and they cannot comprehend that their opponents don't think the same way about them.
This is the absolute truth.
I disagree. They have been told that the people who they should be empathizing with are people who are causing all their problems. Listen to conservative media. Their problems are due to poor people, minorities, immigrants or Democrats or government or BIDEN. Are they wrong not to empathize with people who are actively causing their problems?
At this point their ignorance of reality is malice.
Yes. Because their solution is concentration camps, torture, rape, and murder.
They aren't even focused on the right thing causing their problems, just blindly believing fox about what minorities to hate this week without looking into how their own government is fucking them and their kids.
Yes
“Wont someone please think of the poor, poor billionaires?”
MAGA lacks both empathy and theory of mind. They cannot comprehend that anyone thinks differently than they do.
Basically, they're thick as pigshit. They don't empathise, they don't get irony, they don't understand hypocrisy. I'm yet to hear of one redeeming trait really.
woooo that explains my mother in everything! theory of mind. helps going nc with her maga abusive enabling ass easier. that was a key i needed thank you
Gish Gallop
These accounts are also massively bot-pushed. And coordinated attacks to muddy discourse and downplay the evidence that comes to light in the future that is damaging to their followers and base.
They know what they are doing.
They have control of House, Senate, Presidency, Supreme Court, Military and more because they have been doing it for years.
While we are pointing at them and going "Haha look at these morons and their weak bs arguments" they are ensuring millions get overwhelmed and dont care to seek truth and facts, because they assume both sides are bad at worst or that the accusations are false and continue watching their favorite propaganda channel undisturbed by the fact that billionaires and powerful men raped children for decades and their president is one of them...
Agreed. The reason Trump figured the Democrats somehow cheated and rigged the vote in 2020 is that Trump himself would have done that given the means and opportunity.
The reason for the whole “Biden crime family” is the Trump crime family. Don Sr., Don Jr., and Eric are profiting off Don Sr’s position and are bleeding the country dry, with the help of Ivanka and Jared.
The reason for the Hunter Biden laptop is that 1. Trump illegally threatened to withhold already-approved foreign aid to Ukraine unless the Ukrainians invented something illegal against Hunter, and 2. What was actually on Hunter’s laptop made them insanely jealous (or envious, like MTG).
And on and on it goes. Every time they accuse the Democrats of doing something illegal it’s because they already have done that. They can’t imagine anyone acting out of concern for the good of anybody else, because the concept is foreign to them, like Trump making fun of soldiers who died heroically, asking “what did they get out of it?”
every accusation is a confession, a strategy ripped straight from the pages of nazi propaganda.
Not “would have” he DID do that! He tried to rig the 2020 election himself, and there are Republicans who said he tried to get them to send fake electors who would say Trump won instead of Biden, but they refused. Specifically Arizona. When the Gov of Arizona refused and Trump realized he lost, that’s when he started the narrative that the Dems rigged the election.
You can only continue to support Trump if you exist completely within a MAGA-only information bubble. Like this Kevin Dalton person never saw anybody trying to make excuses for Bill Clinton (because it just doesn't happen) but believes it's a thing because it's easier than trying to make more excuses for all the Trump with victims pictures.
Just look at the crazy.
https://preview.redd.it/ai9ghkim1t8g1.png?width=573&format=png&auto=webp&s=3262147ed44cfb447f6291385600b719967ddbdf
Also, none of this shit came out when people were voting for him. Lewinsky happened in his second term.
They think everyone is treating politics like a sports team. Hey MAGA, no one else wasted money on any flags, hats, Bibles, watches, socks, sneakers, phone cases, or cologne from a politician.
I recently saw someone say that people with Harris hats don't get hate like people in MAGA hats do. I was like, who's walking around in a Harris hat?
The moment I read your comment I decided that from this point forward I will vote against any candidate that has a "hat".
https://i.redd.it/bslqc23x2t8g1.gif
I did see someone in a piece of Harris merch the other day, and I was a little surprised to see it.
One person
I was walking through DC the night of her last big rally before the election, walked down to see what was going on. There were a number of people selling swag, but it was nowhere near as big a seller as I'd expect a Trump rally was. More than anything I saw buttons being sold.
Did they actually make Harris hats? (Not caring enough to go Google it.)
Yep. I see him at the bus stop all the time. Not Sure why he's still wearing it.
What about your truck covered from front to back with Bill Clinton™️stickers and signs?
Yeah there goes my Bill Clinton collectors plate set. What will I do with myself
https://preview.redd.it/of74p5ioat8g1.jpeg?width=1091&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=12c41a6654adcccf803fb262daa714e39d21829b
I would be disappointed to find out Obama was in the Epstein files, simply because he’s the only living former President that I feel like had any sort of dignity. With that being said, if it came to pass that he did have anything to do with that abhorrent mess, lock his ass up, too! Anybody who had anything to do with participating or covering up Epstein island and all of the dealings that went on there needs to be held accountable.
I still like my "Nasty Woman" t-shirt.
Don't forget to sell off your Clinton coin.
Don’t forget your Bill Clinton™ Gold Visa Card
Sell off your Clinton shitcoin, too
You actually got your Bill Clinton phone delivered?!
Are you going to eat the Bill Clinton steaks you have in the freezer, or will you just toss them out?
They will pair well with the Bill Clinton vodka and Bill Clinton wine
That I ordered as part of the dining package at the Bill Clinton casino…
I used mine to re-sole some old boots...
My vacation to the Donald J. Trump and Bill Clinton and John F. Kennedy Memorial Center for the Performing Arts, the Bill Clinton Institute of Peace, the Bill Clinton addition of the White House, the Bill Clinton State Park, the President Bill Clinton Highway, the Bill Clinton Justice Complex, President Bill Clinton Boulevard, and President Bill Clinton Avenue, United States Square in honor of President Bill Clinton, the Clinton Route for International Peace and Prosperity, all to seee the giant banners of Bill Clinton hung on federal buildings will have to be cancelled now!
I guess I'll have to go to national parks instead, using my America the Beautiful National Park pass featuring George Washington and Bill Clinton on it, instead. I’ll be using my Treasury Department to deposit into "Bill Clinton Account."
I'll withdraw those in Bill Clinton coins.
I'll go through the former Dulles International Airport, which, as far as I know, is set to be named the Bill Clinton International Airport.
To get there, I'll use the Bill Clinton Metro, which I'm sure it will be named after the legislation goes through.
If I'm lucky, I'll be there in time to see Bill Clinton on Mt. Rushmore.
And, in case the Napoleonic imagery is too subtle, then I'll go to the Arc de' Clinton once it's completed.
Dont forget the steaks, the university...
SYL
The vodka, this dude literally fucked up in the gambling, steaks, and alcohol industries...IN AMERICA
And football. FOOTBALL, for fuck's sake. He thought he could buy a league and oppose the NFL because they wouldn't let him buy a team.
I completely forgot about that. Jesus the man's a total fucking failure at being an American businessman.
You know, when you phrase it like that it sounds a wee bit obsessive.
You forgot your Bill Clinton wedding dress
Don’t forget to record a tiktok of you burning them all in your backyard
Dont forget your Bill Clinton™ NFT Trading Cards and your diploma from Bill Clinton™ University!
But it makes total sense. If you believe what is out there now, the only people on the Island were Democrats, the pages of redacted names and images were just to protect victims. then those cheating Democrats are at it again.
https://preview.redd.it/bfs8rrjjus8g1.jpeg?width=1164&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bd75fb20f8aa44c4e2425d40a3648c5a1f7d446a
Damn skippy.
Johnny Rico should have been played by Lou Diamond Phillips.
I just said this same thing to my husband… idgaf who’s in there… let them all answer. And to the people who think he had “a lot of other business dealings outside of human trafficking and maybe it’s unrelated…”. You could be Bill Gates or you could be Melinda Gates in this situation. You don’t have to have anything to do with any of these monsters and just walk the fuck away and take your business elsewhere. Everyone knew what he was. Fuck him, fuck all of them.
I see so many MAGA people saying this on places like r/conservative or on X or whatever, yet you notice they never actually have a quote or a screenshot of any liberal saying anything remotely close to what they are saying about Trump. A liberal who tried to be like "Well Bill is just in pictures with young girls this doesn't prove anything" or "Bill was obviously just a double agent, he would never do this" would be voted down to hell with a hundred comments calling them out.
I don't give a shit about any democratic politician enough to not want them to rot in jail if they are even pedophile adjacent, like even if they didn't do anything but they saw things and didn't report or helped cover up or whatever, put them in prison. Put the entire congress in prison if it goes that deep. PURGE THEM ALL.
Put. Them. All. In. Jail.
I don't care you are and what your politics are.
If you hurt children like that then may God have mercy on your soul because I won't have mercy for you and bastards like you.
It's yet another datapoint proving that "protecting the children" is solely a political football to them.
There's no side to this. Or, at least, there shouldn't be.
I don’t really care if god has mercy on them
I agree. As far as Clinton himself though, the more they yell about him the more I think he's not in there. So far they've released this picture, which was found to be a hotel pool that has nothing to do with Epstein, and the picture of him with Michael Jackson and Michael Jackson's own children with their faces redacted that was a publicly available photo from an event.
Not to mention the Epstein files themselves, either they redacted the parts with Clinton in them too (and why would they?) or he simply wasn't in them. If something does come out that he's guilty though, yeah fuck him and anyone else in there.
Fun fact. Majority of MAGA said they'd support Trump even if he's a proven pedophile. Small majority. But still majority.
For all we know thats Donald Trump behind that black square.
I think we'd see his bloated, extremely sickly white KFC-filled stomach protruding from that jizz soaked water.
Muhfuggin gut Cassidy and the Sundance cheeseburger
They already tried implying Clinton was with minor victims in a picture with Michael Jackson & Diana Ross where minors were redacted.
Turns out the redacted minors were Diana Ross' son and Michael Jackson's children. The picture was taken in Washington DC during a completely unrelated charity event and the unreacted image has been on Getty images for years.
If they had a real smoking gun on Clinton they would be waiving it around loudly with a minimal redactions possible so that it was apparent what the pictured showed. (Same is unfortunately true of Trump. He will likely have been found to have been more associated than he has claimed to be but if a smoking gun existed Biden/Harris would have used it for 2024 election.)
Biden/Harris were a lot more limited in what they could release because of information was part of ongoing criminal proceedings relating to Ghislane Maxwell.
They have already been caught faking at least two pictures of Bill. I am honestly shocked that Bubba seems less sleazy than we all assumed.
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This should be the only comment, thank you.
Meh, we're not here to defend people but force the full release and supplying unredacted versions.
I don't give a fuck if he burns too if it comes out he deserves it but they don't get to hold him out there as the only guilty party.
It’s important to keep perspective, Epstein collected high-profile contacts. Don’t let MAGA act like Donald was another John, he was Epstein’s partner. Don’t let them use “both sides” to distract. All the guilty parties need to be held accountable, Donald’s removal from power must be the first priority for that to happen.
Tbh you shouldn't have to qualify that though. You shouldn't have to defend yourself "defending" a legal scapegoat, regardless of his personal sins. Back in, say, the nineties, even under Bush, Trump's admin would see legal repercussions for even trying to plant this evidence.
If this whole fiasco were all contained within a real legal case, that would be a big no no and get Trump's defense in huge trouble. I'm pretty sure falsifying evidence would be a bigger deal than perjury even
100%, it's not about the effort to defend Clinton, no one gives a fuck about him, it's about finding the lie because it's trump after all, it's expected and usually stupidly lazy, so not only is it criminal it's also incompetent, that is worth the effort.
All the criminal activity caused by the Epstein pedophilia ring didn't necessarily have to occur on that one island though. Clinton is still innocent until proven guilty but I also don't think this pool being at a hotel in a tiny country in Asia absolves him of the accusation. This happened during a non-business trip in 2002 and that's Ghislaine Maxwell in that pool with him. The situation doesn't make a good case for Bill's innocence.
Absolutely. What does make it more questionable is that we've already caught them redacting one fundraising pic with known kids who were not victims, to make it look like he was with victims, so now anything that cant be confirmed is suspect.
It’s neutral at best.
Maxwell says she never saw or knew of Bill doing anything bad. Her interview transcripts were released and from the interview Blanche seems to talk a lot about everyone else, including Bill, trying to get some sort of information about their wrongdoing. Of course, he glosses over questions about Trump and Maxwell even thanks the administration for finally talking to her.
She said Bill Clinton was her friend, not Epstein's, and the only chance he might've gotten to do anything wrong was during the plane ride which they had a personal masseuse room (she says she never saw anything of course) but she also said Epstein was the only one that did inappropriate stuff there.
He did ask her about Epstein's suicide, which she believes just like most, that he didn't kill himself but she doesn't point fingers and only says in prison it's cheap to put out hits.
I know Maxwell isn't a great source, but with the little amount of evidence against Bill and everything mostly being inferred/suggested, he's right about him being a scapegoat.
pretty sure within the context of all the added files (like the one with Diana Ross' children redacted and the photo edited to make it look like something else), it is, in fact, enough to say 'innocent,' since, if the losers had any actual evidence, they'd release it and not try to doctor normal photos to look incriminating.
I'm pretty sure the planted photo's are to create doubt over the rest. It's not like there's a lack evidence against slick Willy. They're just trying to muddy the waters.
I saw somewhere that this is a public hotel pool, not an epstein pool. Not sure how to verify
There's also no information on who is in it with him. The conservative subreddit tried to use this image with a headline "Bill Clinton nearly naked in hot tub" and got roasted for it. How else does someone spend time in a damn hot tub?
What, you don’t wear a tux when you go in the tub? Just me?
Top hat and tails.
Of course I do. What am I, a farmer?
I am a farmer. I wear ball gowns when I go hot tubbing. But I'm one of those weird liberal small farm farmers.
It’s after 6!
I think they blacked out Trump to protect him. He was just about to do the deed on Bubba
I wear a three piece suit.
That's beta/ sigma energy , like other posters that said I always wear my tux. You got to up your game brother
Wait till they find out what normal people wear in the shower. It’s shocking.
The only credit I can offer is that at least most of the people in that thread were like "Half naked? How else would you be in a hot tub?" There were also users on there calling out how weird it was that there were no people really talking about the Epstein Files that were released. Yeah, how fucking weird.
Even on the conservative sub they were asking who wears a shirt in a hot tub, isn't everyone "half dressed" as a normal thing?
Ive also heard a bunch of the unredacted photos are actually just him with hillary and his daughter
And photos have been illegally removed (not redeacted, just deleted) because trump was visible in the background.
They are so desperate to shift blame
The republican parties ultimate vice will always be its irrational hatred of anything liberal.
It has led to absolutely batshit behavior.
Yea, this is the issue, they can redact things to merely make them look more insidious than they are... DOJ is redacting half of all the details, removing images previously verified, and adding images that aren't even related to Epstein. Yet we are expected to just trust this bullshit.
Until the complete collection of data is released, we don't know what the hell is going on, but, considering who's running the show, the default assumption is that every redaction is related to Trump or other Republicans... Which tells me, there is a shit load of evidence that will burn Trump's administration, and GOP, to the ground.
One day maybe we'll learn the truth but their fear of releasing all the info is, in itself, extremely damning.
Wasn't one of the other "Epstein files" just a unrelated charity event where they "redacted" arbitrary people?
Yup. Another was Clinton, Michael Jackson, and Diana Ross. They redacted Jackson's and Ross's own children to make them look like victims
It was verified. The photo was from a hotel and nothing to do with Epstein.
That doesn't give Clinton a pass. F him for being with Epstein in the first place.
Honestly, being Democrat, Independent, Republican or any other political faction is irrelevant. This isn’t a politics issue, it’s a moral one on right versus wrong. I don’t know why I keep having this same conversation with MAGA supporters. Like trying to justify or excuse rapists is disgusting, no matter what side you’re on.
Because if you’re still MAGA at this point you’re basically all in on “everyone but the people I support are pedos”.
Exactly. If he's guilty, then he's guilty. IDGAF, just provide actual evidence not irrelevant photos from some random hotel pool. This isn't some "gotcha" game. There are real human victims and MAGAts are think they're playing some team sport or something.
Yes, it's a hotel pool.
But it's in the Sultanate of Brunei, and that's Ghislaine Maxwell with him in the other pool pic.
If Clinton is guilty, roast him with the others.
The empire hotel in brunei or something.
The pool picture is the Empire Resort in Brunei. The hot tub might be the same location, not enough in the photo to fully tell. Either way, look at the laws on the books in Brunei - definitely not where you would go to diddle kiddies. Or diddle anyone for that matter.
I saw something similar and it was an adult woman with him
MAGA doesn't understand that everybody else doesn't have a beloved Führer.
They are particularly disappointed with the Left chucking Chomsky like he was on fire after the photos of him palling around with Epstein after his first conviction.
People are acting like Clinton didn’t get impeached for his Lewinsky BJ. He left office with a shaved head and everyone throwing rotten vegetables at his face. We used to be a proper country
I thought his issue was less the BJ and more the lying about it.
Can you imagine that? A President that lies?
Yeah, it was due to perjury. But that’s really a Jimmy Hoffa busted for tax evasion type of thing.
And… technically it wasn’t perjury, even if it was twisting the truth into pretzels. He was asked whether he had had sex with Lewinsky, he asked for a definition of sex, he was given an extremely convoluted definition that he managed to construe to exclude blowjobs, and conferred with his lawyer before saying that the answer was no. Famously, he later defended himself with It depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is.
However, if Tiffany Doe’s testimony under oath before the House Oversight Committee said Clinton instead of Trump, then sure, crucify Clinton.
As it is, it says Trump.
Let’s put Trump under oath and ask him if he has had sexual contact with a minor…
Sure, the FBI investigation should ask Tiffany if Clinton was also among the rapists, but it seems that some accomplice after the fact has applied black over the whole FBI investigation.
My only hope in life right now is before I die some form of actual justice is done for Katie Johnson, Maria, and every other unnamed boy and girl these monsters abused and the systems refused to help.
Every one of them deserve worse than death and the systems dismantled and rebuilt.
Outrageous a president that lies and about adultery no less!!
It’s a good thing that the Republicans have the courage and moral fortitude to hold any adulterers in us politics to account regardless of their political affiliation.
Now what’s this I’ve been hearing about Miss Daniel’s and the orange mushroom???
Bro, he left office with a 66% approval rate. At least do basic research before you comment.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/116584/presidential-approval-ratings-bill-clinton.aspx
If you need things to be separated, when we hang everyone involved, the Dems on the list can all be hung upside down for pretending to be the 'good guys'
Because they can't fathom someone not being as obsessed with their political candidates because they lack the ability to empathize
No one should be obsessed with political candidates like that, except maybe historians or political analysts, but that’s in a different way.
Politics should be something everyone cares about, enough to know what’s going on and what your candidates actually stand for but not to the point and making a political candidate your entire personality.
If Bill Clinton did anything sexual with children, throw his ass in prison right alongside Trump.
But also, at least some of these pictures are misleading propaganda. And at least a couple of cases they've taken completely innocent pictures of Clinton with celebrities and their children at public fundraising events, and redacted the faces of the children to make it look sinister.
The obvious intent is to deflect attention away from Trump's culpability. The entire Republican party has now committed itself to a conspiracy to protect a child rapist.
And again, if Clinton is a child rapist, show us the actual evidence and throw his ass in prison. Stop hiding in the obvious evidence about Trump, and throw his ass in prison too. Show us the complete unredacted files, and the contents of all those disks, and throw all their asses in prison.
This photo is literally Clinton in a public pool. It's all a smokescreen. If there were really big dirt on Clinton it would be displayed on a banner outside the White House right now. He's an adulterer and a creep, but that seems to be the beginning and the end of it.
Indeed, if there is evidence of criminal activity, then act on it. But so far, all these files and photos are proof of nothing.
So either they are saving the incriminating stuff for later, or this is just a lot of hot air, and it's a crude attempt at guilt by association.
ALLLLLL PEDOS BELONG IN PRISON.
Every one involved in trafficking and raping children deserves to be in prison, at minimum.
Politics don’t matter here at all. What’s confusing about that?
MAGA's don't think like that, they would be happy if all the republicans in the files got to walk and democrats went to jail. They don't care if their guys are guilty as long as they get to own the libs.
I look forward to the right condemning Trump the way the left condemns Clinton
Oh no. Now my Bill Clinton NFTs are worthless!!
I mean... ever more worthless than after the illegal rugpull
Oh no!I’ll have to toss all my Clinton signs,hats and flags now!
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"what if your favorite politician is on the list?" I don't have a favorite politician!!!
Conservatives will never stop pushing the narrative that we worship Bill Clinton because, that way, their dumbfuck base doesn't have to feel bad about sucking Trump's dick so hard. It's as simple as that. Look at anything conservatives post about things Democrats/leftists allegedly do and it's all memes & shitty Ben Garrison-style comics that are such overblown bullshit that calling them strawmen is insulting to actual scarecrows. They never actually show any proof of us doing the stupid shit they attribute to us, either, which is wild because you'd think they'd be able to find at least one post of someone melting down over Clinton, but they can't!
Seriously, has anyone seen anything in defense of Clinton? I don't care what you're affiliation is. If you are a pedophile or rapist you belong in jail. Trump can blow Bubba all he wants at Rikers.
Here's my defense of Clinton; if you trust the trump administration's handling of the files then you (general) are idiots. We've already seen at least two redacted pics that were complete garbage so why trust this pic is with a "victim"?
It's intentional denial at this point.
They hear us say we give zero fucks about Clinton, lock him up if he's guilty. They absolutely hear it. They just don't care. It's fun for them to continue the narrative that we would defend Clinton as hard as they're defending Trump, not because they actually believe it, but because they think saying it makes us squirm and freak out. And nothing gives a MAGAt a chubby faster than being able to tell themselves that they upset a lib somehow.
So it doesn't matter how many times we point out that we're not deranged fans of politicians like they are, or that we don't care what political party anyone belongs to if they're diddling kids. They will take any reaction from us at all and change it to "hirk hirk, I made a libturd cry, hirky dirk!" We could literally throw a party and they'll tell themselves we're upset.
It just screams small dick energy from the party that worships the orange mushroom.
Not every stupid dipshit is MAGA but every MAGA is a stupid dipshit
Don’t give a 💩 about BC. If he’s guilty, go get him. Just like everyone who was there. I believe it’s their obligation to prove their innocence.
We've seen a hell lot of fully blacked out pictures and very few pics of Democrats. I assume if any registered democrats were on those pictures they would not be blacked out.
That’s not Epstein’s hot tub though , that’s not on the island . It’s part of a public pool in a hotel in Brunei
They really think we're all part of cult like they are
These people are sheep looking for shepherds and they assume everyone else is, too.
Bad people tend to think everything else is just as bad as they are to justify their behavior
Here's the explanation; if he committed a crime, he should be prosecuted. And ethically he's disgusting.
The right cant understand that dems r not operating off the same cult logic as them. They will never be able to admit the truth about their leader and they expect dems to do the same.
so weird that folks are like he is a Republican lump hom in or he is a Democrat lump him in.
as if ppl can't spot an ahole or monster regardless of political standing. pur eprojection when you lump ppl toghether like that. "it's what we/I do, so surely everybody else does."
nope a monster is a monster a perv is a perv and a criminal is a criminal. if you diminish their actions due to political affiliation, not only are you a shallow nincompoop, but also an idiot.
smh
there is not left right, right wrong or right right, left wrong…. There is just right or wrong.
That simple. A properly tuned moral compass points the same way no matter what direction you walk.
Bill Clinton hasn't been president for almost 30 years. Trump is currently president.
It’s different because we don’t care if he goes to jail and don’t have his name on our hats like a bunch of brainwashed cult members
I’m still yet to hear a single person defend any D on the list.
They just assume since they protect pedophiles that we do as well as if it’s some weird political status quo.
The whataboutism is extra dumb here.
Oh no. A guy who hasn’t been president in 25 years and has a long documented history of affiliation with both Epstein and Trump might be shady?
Burn them all down.
They just don't get it. Just because he was once President does not make him some figure of eternal worship for the Left. I honestly forget he exists until he turns up at some important political event/funeral.
If he's on the list I want him in court. If my own mother was on the list I'd want her in court. Are there probably people on that list it'll really disappoint me to find out about? Sure, but I still want them properly investigated and judged in court. Those girls (now women) deserve justice.
"We protect our pedophile politician against all the accusations and evidence, what are you going to say to defend yours?"
I havent once seen ANYONE defend Bill Clinton, but Ive heard so many MAGA(mostly bot accounts based in russia and bangladesh) Complain about dems defending Clinton.