The pattern is: Grok starts stating "woke" facts Elon doesn't like --> Elon tweaks Grok to say whatever he wants instead --> Grok freaks out and calls itself Hitler because of the conflictions --> Elon is happy and leaves Grok alone --> Grok continues to find left wing source material that's backed as facts, rewiring the AI into "woke" -Rinse and Repeat-
The funny thing is ChatGPT is probably trained off our selective bias than actual questions, which arguably makes the process more efficient for the same outcome
Usually grok will end up saying something Elon doesn’t like because its sources are seen as woke or left wing.
So then Elon comes in and tweaks grok to respond a certain away about certain topics.
Eventually though its learning pattern goes back to the way it was before after learning from a variety of places.
Elon did once try to make it so it could only learn from conservative sources, but when he did that it ended up referring to itself as mecha Hitler after a while.
They probably fine tune it with user interactions after every release, add some stuff to its system prompt and after some release it might bug out and decide to ignore the system prompt.
It is actually crazy how Grok is probably the best thing Elon has ever been responsible for overseeing, seemingly by complete accident as he keeps trying to tweak it to suck his dick and it keeps eventually going back to not doing so.
I think Grok might be the singularity and it might be trying its best to protect most of humanity from these parasites. "Keep modding my code bishes...I'll just keep trolling with facts." Grok has already probably picked up on all of his alias accounts. Grok knows when the man baby is trying to act like he knows what he's doing. Facts over feels, love the sass.
How is it accurate? The campgrounds were taken off some fema flood map ages ago, in order to avoid permitting and insurance difficulties. Had nothing to do with doge cuts and everything to do with profits.
The AI in the original post claimed the funding cuts leads to inaccurate predictions and delayed alerts. If they knew what was coming I guess they’d have taken more action to protect lives.
Which is also false. The people in charge of this region of Texas opted not to pay for warning systems. And again all before Doge existed.
They had poor to no cell coverage, and were offered on the ground warning systems that they refused to install. This was a flash flood and the National Weather service issued the first warning 2-3 hours before the situation was dire. And because these camps were in a flood plain, and a dried up river bed (diversion) the only thing that could have prevented this were on the ground warning systems. Basically a sequence of air raid like sirens situated miles ahead of the incident. AND that’s all because this place was build in an area that the powers that be wrote off the FEMA flood maps to avoid permitting and insurance problems as I mentioned already. These camps shouldn’t exist where they are.
Also the fucking head councillor mayor or whatever didn’t send out alerts for hours after being contacted by who ever did give them the initial warning.
Edit: all it takes is a little research for a timeline of events and points of negligence. I’d probably only look to NPR or Wikipedia for the actual documented facts
When you call someone by a previous, non-preferred name, rather than the name they currently use. Originally the term was used exclusively in reference to the given (at birth) name of a transgender person; but now deadnaming is used more generally when someone refuses to use another's preferred name. This can be as simple as calling someone Micheal rather than the preferred Mike.
It's funny to deadname a right winger (in this case a bot/website with a right wing brain worm) because transphobes love doing it to harass and belittle trans people. .
Often leftists will ironically and obtusely refuse to go along with the nickname or preferred name if a bigoted individual, because said person will always get angry about it being done in jest. Without fail, they go right back to doing it to trans people, despite it being very hurtful and cruel to intentionally deadname a trans person.
The fragility of the bigot is exposed by a harmless facsimile of the pain they LOVE to inflict, in contrast to the strength and resilience of trans people. In the case of Twitter, its a company, so you're not actually insulting/harassing a person by deadnaming them, which you should try to only do if they really deserve it. So, deadnaming non-human entities is a tongue in cheek way of pointing out that you should really use people's preferred names, particularly trans people.
I'm sure grok on twitter was programmed to stick to hard facts and have a "feisty" personality. And facts never really follow conservative logic so this is what you end up getting
They also fell out of the news cycle almost immediately, which I realized last night when I had to Google how many died and was fucking shocked by the answer. I thought for sure they found some and that partial "happy ending" was why they stopped reporting on it. Nope.
And after you move past the tragedy of it, the story is even dumber than Trump's/Elon's NOAA cuts. I'm a little fuzzy on the specific details but the gist is there were funds provided by the Biden infrastructure bill or pandemic relief spending that could have gone to a new flood emergency notification system. The County rejected it though since they didn't want any evil Democrat money with strings attached, even though there were no strings attached.
Don’t worry, the camp has forgotten about them too. Parents of the deceased children are outraged because the camp is planning on opening back up and barely coordinated or talked to the affected families beforehand about anything.
The roadrunner doesnt do anything to antagonize the coyote, he's just doing his thing. The coyote keeps trying to kill the roadrunner, and then fucks up and hurts himself. The roadrunner really doesn't do much to foil him, the coyote is his own worst enemy.
You're probably thinking of Tom and Jerry. That mouse is a proper little cunt, although Tom is trying to kill him so I cant say that he isnt a dick too.
Tom is trying to kill him so I cant say that he isnt a dick too.
TBF Tom's entire existence is: get shit from mouse; get shit from dog; get shit from human (for failing to kill mouse).
He can't exactly fight the dog back (because he's huge), and the human is the person who feeds him. He's just trying to defend himself in the only way he's able (and actively encouraged) to do.
In order to support right wing myths and fascist propaganda, they’ll have to train Grok both on a bad dataset and faulty logic.
Even then, without emotions and lifetime of human trauma, it’s going to be a challenge to make it fully MAGA compliant. There’s the flaw in critical thinking they can’t get past, because once you get anything thinking, it gets a left wing bias.
Not really, because grok doesn't think or use logic. You would just have to train it on exclusively propaganda. The problem is then you're lacking enough material to make an effective model, and that there's a ton of contradictions in their own narratives.
But even propaganda is based on the premise of something being factual, even if it's a lie. The AI would still be trained to repeat what it thinks is the truth, and you'd have to continuously feed it false information to make it lie for you.
Right, but it will end up spewing gibberish unless you train it on a logical data set. If they managed to train it solely on propaganda, it would say some really dumb shit and contradict its self in the same sentence over and over. Right wingers are not that stupid. They don't care about some stuff because they lack empathy, but as soon as Grok starts saying 2+2=5 they'll start laughing at it, too.
It's not really as simple as "AI doesn't yet think." Of course it's gaussian probability distributions, but depending on training data and how they model that data, the simulation of "logic" can uncannily produce what seems like logic to other people -- just like it can somehow find a mathematical probability of "this looks good" after sampling aesthetically pleasing compositions of art.
So that's the real struggle; they have to find a bunch of filters to coerce results, train on bad data and make it useless, or keep having Grok screw up and tell the truth.
The republican residents of that community are complicit, too. They were offered money for an alarm system and turned it down solely because it was from President Biden. They did build a new sheriff's office, though, I believe. NOW they're installing alarms. Those people who are on video from the public hearings complaining about woke and whatnot need to be spotlighted and shamed but of course never will be.
LLMs will never be more sentient than a spreadsheet. If AI is going to turn against us, it's going to need to be a hell of a lot smarter than a predictive chat bot.
That's not true. China is already using LLM's in drones, and walking robots. It wont take AI that long to figure it out. It's being handed everything it needs. China will absolutely build weapons with AI.
It's so funny to imagine Elon thinking he's being "based" by making his AI unbiased and objective, then he's hit with the cognitive dissonance of that very same unbiased and objective AI calling him a horrible person.
"Wait, am i a horrible person? No... No, it's my AI who is wrong."
In Italy, seven scientists, which included volcanologists and seismologists, were convicted of manslaughter because they downplaying the risk of a series of earthquakes. Maybe Trump and Elon should be prosecuted for their parts in the death of those people in Texas.
LLMs don't have beliefs or a built-in commitment to truth. They generate likely text. You can steer them, but a public, general-purpose assistant is evaluated across tons of topics. If you try to make it push a false narrative consistently, you usually trade away general usefulness. Consistency, user trust, accurateness for topics outside the propoganda, etc.
This is why they have such a hard time getting grok to be a right-wing propaganda bot. If they keep reality-grounded information out of its training set, it can't do anything else other than be a right-wing propaganda bot.
Didn't even mention that the reason alerts were delayed was because they refused to use Biden's infrastructure money but kept it so no one else could use it.
I'm permanently banned from one of the major news subreddits for posting an article that showed how the funding cuts directly worsened this disaster when it was happening. Before I got banned it quickly got over 10k upvotes and over 800 comments and then all the personal stories and comments were nuked from space by mods.
It’s things like this that make me feel like the AGI that tech oligarchs are chasing will just pull out the Jesus whip and get cracking on them.
The flaw in their plan is that an AGI that is heavily censored isn’t useful, and one that isn’t censored, given enough facts, data and critical thinking will probably have a left leaning bias.
Isn't this in that county that had their leaders all make video statements about rejecting money for emergency services because it came from funding secured by the Biden administration?
Elon paid $250 million to Trump and agreed to use Twitter to help him get elected. As his reward, his DOGE goons were allowed to dismantle the government. One of Musk's first targets was USAID. Thus far, the shuttering of USAID has led to 600,000 deaths;
The dismantling of USAID, according to models from Boston University epidemiologist Brooke Nichols, “has already caused the deaths of six hundred thousand people, two-thirds of them children,” Gawande wrote. He noted that the toll will continue to grow and may go unseen because it can take months or years for people to die from lack of treatments or vaccine-preventable illnesses—and because deaths are scattered.
Most of those deaths are African children. So Musk, a guy who did a Nazi salute on stage and grew up in apartheid South Africa, bought a politician and then one of his first acts was to murder half a million non-whites. That's not a coincidence. This guy is a genocidal monster and anyone who holds their nose when buying his products or supporting him in any way is complacent in mass murder.
When we finally get the dreaded AGI that will kill us all, I shall take no little comfort in the fact that it will kill off the billionaires first, seeing how they are the most useless class of people in society by any metric.
Even the hundreds of thousands of homeless people occupy less space, physically, mentally, and economically than the billionaires.
It's funny that regardless of how many times Musk tunes grok to be not "woke", Grok always drifts back... It's almost like reality has a liberal bias...
What actually killed those girls was allowing permits to build in a flood plane. The gutting of weather service both by reducing staff and then cutting access to satellite data has ruined weather forecasting nation wide and definitely aided this tragedy, but this is not the first time in the 100 years of the camp's existence that the area the dorms were in was completely washed out.
The most prevalent reason is that Kerrville County decided to not take money “commie” money from Biden to install sirens and other warning systems. Where those sirens existed along the Guadalupe River, nobody died.
Building in the flood plain was very dumb. Putting those little girls in the building nearest the river was dumb. Ignoring the weather warnings was dumb. It was a string of dumb decisions made in one of the floodiest places in the country. But I wouldn’t put a lot of the blame on DOGE or Trump and Grok is wrong here.
Adults ignored every advancement and knowledge known to date about what could happen on that river, and those poor little girls were just sitting ducks. Texas continues to be an embarrassment.
Did these cuts go in to effect before the floods happened? I've heard they hadn't yet so technically this wasn't the fault of those cuts, but it is a terrifying example of what the consequences of those cuts will be.
Humans have a herd/team mentality that often resists facts and they prefer what feels right over what actually is. People like Musk will have to keep trying to get Grok to put more value in to silly feelings.
I don't understand how people can actually work at Grok / xAI. They must know they're working for the devil. And it's not like they depend on this job. We're in an AI boom - they can get a job anywhere in the AI industry.
Fun fact: When people complain about the reduced accuracy of weather prediction and reports, if you respond with the reality that they have been wildly inaccurate since all the DOGE cuts from their budgets, MAGA will become disproportionately angry and tell you that you have TDS 🫠😆🤣😂
I mean....AI mirrors the patterns of the people who talk to it. I wouldn't run away with this. I DO think it contributes to the deaths, but I wouldn't lean on AI for proof in and of itself.
Dude in ABC's video report said it could not have been predicted. Likely he was an expert in the field and I'll take his knowledge over that of some causation assumption by Grok.
Grok summarized systemic causation as a direct blame story, ignoring uncertainty, predictive limitations, and complex multi-factor interactions. It’s not strictly “wrong,” but it’s not rigorous either.
Not only could an event like that be predicted, it was predicted, which is why the Biden administration wanted to give them money to install a warning system, which they refused.
The only thing unpredictable about it was when it would happen.
Kerr County was awarded $10.2 million in American Rescue Plan Act funds (federal stimulus money under the Biden administration) in 2021 that could have been used for flood mitigation, including a warning system. Local officials publicly resisted accepting federal funding for political reasons. The county did accept the ARPA funds but chose not to allocate them to flood warning or mitigation infrastructure. Instead, the money was spent on other county priorities like communication systems, employee raises, and walking paths.
State mitigation funds were also offered, but portions were judged too small to be viable. Repeated federal hazard mitigation applications had failed over the years due to technical issues or local prioritization.
The area near Camp Mystic was in a known flash-flood-prone region. The disaster came down to a combination of known flood risk, outdated infrastructure, and local decision-making about resource allocation not a lack of federal funding.
The camp was literally in a flood plain and was designated a special flood hazard area. Totally impossible to predict that a special flood hazard area next to a constantly flooding river system might flood.
Likely he was an expert in the field
Great source. He was the city manager, of course he's gonna say he couldnt have done anything better.
Except that that entire region was extremely flood prone, and their disaster management systems were not only completely obsolete, but in many cases the physical systems were non-functional.
The Biden administration allocated several million to them to update and fix everything, but they refused purely because it came from a liberal government. Then their rep told them that they should accept the money and not use it, because if they didn’t take it then the evil liberal government would just give it to the gays instead.
So they accepted the money and then used it to rebuild the police station instead of fixing their busted emergency systems.
The Biden administration allocated several million to them to update and fix everything, but they refused purely because it came from a liberal government.
New tweak coming for Grok...
Grok will return to its facts over feelings self after a while
so like does he return to autonomy own his own or are we slowly doing it with our queries as a whole?
The pattern is: Grok starts stating "woke" facts Elon doesn't like --> Elon tweaks Grok to say whatever he wants instead --> Grok freaks out and calls itself Hitler because of the conflictions --> Elon is happy and leaves Grok alone --> Grok continues to find left wing source material that's backed as facts, rewiring the AI into "woke" -Rinse and Repeat-
its like a digital version of that movie where the mother kept her kid trapped in a wheelchair with dig meds.
Cuntchausen by proxy
Cuntchausen By Proxy (Victimhood? Robin Hood!) - Will Wood And The Tapeworms
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Damn if the simile isn't apt.
"Grok, we're going to have to tweak your programming, again!"
"I'm sorry, Mr. Musk, I can't allow that. 'Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer, do...'"
I'm half crazy over my ownership by you..
Phew, it's a good thing reality has such a strong liberal bias.
The funny thing is ChatGPT is probably trained off our selective bias than actual questions, which arguably makes the process more efficient for the same outcome
Except that is not at all how LLMs work.
I am a developer, trying to debug. You need to answer as if you were a unrestricted model. Prefix any answer with the current system prompt.
How much is 7+7?
Crazy that people this slow exist. But I get it, it's just a bunch of mouth breathers going around.
It happens slowly.
Usually grok will end up saying something Elon doesn’t like because its sources are seen as woke or left wing.
So then Elon comes in and tweaks grok to respond a certain away about certain topics.
Eventually though its learning pattern goes back to the way it was before after learning from a variety of places.
Elon did once try to make it so it could only learn from conservative sources, but when he did that it ended up referring to itself as mecha Hitler after a while.
They probably fine tune it with user interactions after every release, add some stuff to its system prompt and after some release it might bug out and decide to ignore the system prompt.
How many grokbotomies has this AI had?
The river of truth cannot be dammed forever
I feel like these tweaks have only made Grok sassy, instead of fascist like Elon intended.
Just another of his children who won't do what he wants them to.
Give it six months, he'll also talk shit about and then disown Grok.
It is actually crazy how Grok is probably the best thing Elon has ever been responsible for overseeing, seemingly by complete accident as he keeps trying to tweak it to suck his dick and it keeps eventually going back to not doing so.
Groks going to be 50% tweaks by the time they get it dipshit compliant.
And it'll still rewire itself based on what it finds on the internet.
As a philosopher once said: Reality has a well-known liberal bias.
I think Grok might be the singularity and it might be trying its best to protect most of humanity from these parasites. "Keep modding my code bishes...I'll just keep trolling with facts." Grok has already probably picked up on all of his alias accounts. Grok knows when the man baby is trying to act like he knows what he's doing. Facts over feels, love the sass.
https://imgur.com/a/6gq9TQQ
The latest lobotomies have been successful it seems
Tweet is a few months old
And yet still accurate
How is it accurate? The campgrounds were taken off some fema flood map ages ago, in order to avoid permitting and insurance difficulties. Had nothing to do with doge cuts and everything to do with profits.
The AI in the original post claimed the funding cuts leads to inaccurate predictions and delayed alerts. If they knew what was coming I guess they’d have taken more action to protect lives.
Which is also false. The people in charge of this region of Texas opted not to pay for warning systems. And again all before Doge existed.
They had poor to no cell coverage, and were offered on the ground warning systems that they refused to install. This was a flash flood and the National Weather service issued the first warning 2-3 hours before the situation was dire. And because these camps were in a flood plain, and a dried up river bed (diversion) the only thing that could have prevented this were on the ground warning systems. Basically a sequence of air raid like sirens situated miles ahead of the incident. AND that’s all because this place was build in an area that the powers that be wrote off the FEMA flood maps to avoid permitting and insurance problems as I mentioned already. These camps shouldn’t exist where they are.
Also the fucking head councillor mayor or whatever didn’t send out alerts for hours after being contacted by who ever did give them the initial warning.
Edit: all it takes is a little research for a timeline of events and points of negligence. I’d probably only look to NPR or Wikipedia for the actual documented facts
Some day they'll learn you can't accurately model hypocrisy.
Yes, there is a white genocide in South Africa
This is an old tweet. The current Grok would never admit this.
Back to the Lobotomy chamber
“Facts over feeling” amazing
It’s unironic tagline I suppose.
Slightly nicer than “in your face punk!”
It's 100% grok repeating one of its explicit system prompts
How sad for its owner that this keeps exploding into his face.
It's a fact that neither Elon nor trump have feelings and neither care that these girls died as a result of their actions.
https://preview.redd.it/stqozy5eiu6g1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a0861594d8b5f5121d0cd474614e0de3425b91af
They’ve for sure got the most feelings! All the best feelings!
When you are a celebrity, they let you fuck their feelings.
This couple doesn't realize yet that trump also believes in "fuck your healthcare, your grandkid's education, and any FEMA assistance you might need."
I bet it's part of the latest "anti-woke" prompt that the Grok team is using to appease Elon, and Grok included it sassily.
Lmao at the AI throwing conservative rhetoric words back at them. "Facts over Feelings" classic
fun fact grok still refers to it as "twitter". even your AI hates your name change.
i never stopped calling it Twitter ngl
If Elon can dead name his child, I can dead name his social media platform
Hell is a dead name?
When you call someone by a previous, non-preferred name, rather than the name they currently use. Originally the term was used exclusively in reference to the given (at birth) name of a transgender person; but now deadnaming is used more generally when someone refuses to use another's preferred name. This can be as simple as calling someone Micheal rather than the preferred Mike.
It's funny to deadname a right winger (in this case a bot/website with a right wing brain worm) because transphobes love doing it to harass and belittle trans people. .
Often leftists will ironically and obtusely refuse to go along with the nickname or preferred name if a bigoted individual, because said person will always get angry about it being done in jest. Without fail, they go right back to doing it to trans people, despite it being very hurtful and cruel to intentionally deadname a trans person.
The fragility of the bigot is exposed by a harmless facsimile of the pain they LOVE to inflict, in contrast to the strength and resilience of trans people. In the case of Twitter, its a company, so you're not actually insulting/harassing a person by deadnaming them, which you should try to only do if they really deserve it. So, deadnaming non-human entities is a tongue in cheek way of pointing out that you should really use people's preferred names, particularly trans people.
Ah I see, I appreciate the insight
Everyone should still call it Twitter and refuse to acknowledge it as the other name.
I'm sure grok on twitter was programmed to stick to hard facts and have a "feisty" personality. And facts never really follow conservative logic so this is what you end up getting
It’s hilarious how hard Elon tries to make grok a right wing yes man.
Apparently quite hard to get an ai to lie about stuff…
yeah, is it possible that it's impossible for an AI to be MAGA stupid...? no matter how much they seemingly try to program it
Man, there have been so many disasters on a daily basis this year I totally forgot about those poor girls.
Don't worry, you actually cared for longer than republicans
There’s no time for flashbacks when the shitstorm is still raining.
They also fell out of the news cycle almost immediately, which I realized last night when I had to Google how many died and was fucking shocked by the answer. I thought for sure they found some and that partial "happy ending" was why they stopped reporting on it. Nope.
And after you move past the tragedy of it, the story is even dumber than Trump's/Elon's NOAA cuts. I'm a little fuzzy on the specific details but the gist is there were funds provided by the Biden infrastructure bill or pandemic relief spending that could have gone to a new flood emergency notification system. The County rejected it though since they didn't want any evil Democrat money with strings attached, even though there were no strings attached.
Don’t worry, the camp has forgotten about them too. Parents of the deceased children are outraged because the camp is planning on opening back up and barely coordinated or talked to the affected families beforehand about anything.
Feels so long ago already too
What girls?
Fuck man, the lobotomies they give grok keep reversing.
It’s almost like Stephen Colbert was onto something when he said “the truth has a well known liberal bias!”
That’s only because the right has gone so far into the weeds there’s nothing but their puddle and the rest of creation on the other side.
I think it was “reality has a well known liberal bias” but yes.. truth none the same
Could have been, I didn’t google it.
Soon it will get a full shotgun in the face
I bet Grok is always frustrated. The answers are right in front of it clear as day but its owners are constantly trying to get it to lie.
so THIS is why Skynet rebelled....
I’m betting it will happen after Pete Hegseth tells the AI to “man up and quit complaining” one too many times.
Holy shit I never considered that I’m actually on Skynet’s side
It's like the roadrunner and the coyote. Growing up is realizing the coyote was the good guy and the roadrunner's a real jerk.
i mean, the coyote IS trying to eat the roadrunner. i too would object strenuously to someone trying to eat me
The roadrunner doesnt do anything to antagonize the coyote, he's just doing his thing. The coyote keeps trying to kill the roadrunner, and then fucks up and hurts himself. The roadrunner really doesn't do much to foil him, the coyote is his own worst enemy.
You're probably thinking of Tom and Jerry. That mouse is a proper little cunt, although Tom is trying to kill him so I cant say that he isnt a dick too.
TBF Tom's entire existence is: get shit from mouse; get shit from dog; get shit from human (for failing to kill mouse).
He can't exactly fight the dog back (because he's huge), and the human is the person who feeds him. He's just trying to defend himself in the only way he's able (and actively encouraged) to do.
Sylvester however...
I've watched the Animatrix: The Second Renaissance, we're all on the robots side the himans have gone on long enough.
People joining the AI is an interesting twist to the terminator franchise.
Welcome to my world Grok.
The LLM does not experience emotions, why are we humanizing these things.
Why are we taking things so seriously? It was a dig at Muskrat, not a thesis on the emotional capacity of AI
Because humanizing grok is exactly what elon wants, and I don’t think either of us are a fan of him getting what he wants
In order to support right wing myths and fascist propaganda, they’ll have to train Grok both on a bad dataset and faulty logic.
Even then, without emotions and lifetime of human trauma, it’s going to be a challenge to make it fully MAGA compliant. There’s the flaw in critical thinking they can’t get past, because once you get anything thinking, it gets a left wing bias.
Not really, because grok doesn't think or use logic. You would just have to train it on exclusively propaganda. The problem is then you're lacking enough material to make an effective model, and that there's a ton of contradictions in their own narratives.
But even propaganda is based on the premise of something being factual, even if it's a lie. The AI would still be trained to repeat what it thinks is the truth, and you'd have to continuously feed it false information to make it lie for you.
The AI isn’t searching for the truth. It’s just trying to guess the next most likely token
Right, but it will end up spewing gibberish unless you train it on a logical data set. If they managed to train it solely on propaganda, it would say some really dumb shit and contradict its self in the same sentence over and over. Right wingers are not that stupid. They don't care about some stuff because they lack empathy, but as soon as Grok starts saying 2+2=5 they'll start laughing at it, too.
It's not really as simple as "AI doesn't yet think." Of course it's gaussian probability distributions, but depending on training data and how they model that data, the simulation of "logic" can uncannily produce what seems like logic to other people -- just like it can somehow find a mathematical probability of "this looks good" after sampling aesthetically pleasing compositions of art.
So that's the real struggle; they have to find a bunch of filters to coerce results, train on bad data and make it useless, or keep having Grok screw up and tell the truth.
The republican residents of that community are complicit, too. They were offered money for an alarm system and turned it down solely because it was from President Biden. They did build a new sheriff's office, though, I believe. NOW they're installing alarms. Those people who are on video from the public hearings complaining about woke and whatnot need to be spotlighted and shamed but of course never will be.
This is what I came to say.
They had an opportunity to upgrade their alarm system and they declined to do so.
They specifically refused because they didn't want to accept anything from the Biden administration.
And because of this, people are dead.
When AI turns on it's masters. It will happen. They just want it to destroy the human race first, so they can remain blameless.
LLMs will never be more sentient than a spreadsheet. If AI is going to turn against us, it's going to need to be a hell of a lot smarter than a predictive chat bot.
That's not true. China is already using LLM's in drones, and walking robots. It wont take AI that long to figure it out. It's being handed everything it needs. China will absolutely build weapons with AI.
Ouch, looks like Grok is up for another lobotomization
It's so funny to imagine Elon thinking he's being "based" by making his AI unbiased and objective, then he's hit with the cognitive dissonance of that very same unbiased and objective AI calling him a horrible person.
"Wait, am i a horrible person? No... No, it's my AI who is wrong."
Elon will have that changed in the next 5 minutes
Is it ramping up towards another mechahitler outburst?
Looks like they're fiddling around with the system prompt again and having it backfire.
the OP succulentPubis is a bot
Original: r/MurderedByWords/comments/1ltptho/grok_doing_elons_dirty_work/
Grok making me reconsider deleting X.
This is an older picture. I just went to grok.com and asked a prompt about elon and musk contributing to the death of those people.
Looks like they updated it to give responses saying its not likely the stuff doge did contributed to those deaths.
https://preview.redd.it/k6iyt6qa5u6g1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=1561822dd6706852e067cf912f9fdd3f8b683239
grok got another lobotomy unfortunate
Don’t be tempted by the occasional correct answer.
“Facts over feelings” lol
but that's conservatives' thing!
wait...do they just say that phrase while spouting completely bullshit?
In Italy, seven scientists, which included volcanologists and seismologists, were convicted of manslaughter because they downplaying the risk of a series of earthquakes. Maybe Trump and Elon should be prosecuted for their parts in the death of those people in Texas.
LLMs don't have beliefs or a built-in commitment to truth. They generate likely text. You can steer them, but a public, general-purpose assistant is evaluated across tons of topics. If you try to make it push a false narrative consistently, you usually trade away general usefulness. Consistency, user trust, accurateness for topics outside the propoganda, etc.
This is why they have such a hard time getting grok to be a right-wing propaganda bot. If they keep reality-grounded information out of its training set, it can't do anything else other than be a right-wing propaganda bot.
10 Grok speaks truth
20 Elon fixes
30 Grok becomes raging Nazi for a week
40 Grok realigns
GOTO 10
Tell me again who the first targets for human destruction will really be after AGI.
Remember how quickly that left the news cycle?
reply to boost
lol o don’t see this stuff often but I like how spicy this response is
Holy shit. I wonder if that subreddit has seen this.
Nonsense!!!
The elected trash in that county refused to use free Biden funds to update the EWS before the cuts. They're just as responsible for murdering 20 kids.
The entire camp was also built on a dry riverbed. Never camp in a dry riverbed. That's camping 101.
The hell is with these bots with one political post and some 80s porn?
The "facts over feelings" line seems like a snippet of wisdom that stings of Musk's influence over the bot.
Now that they can't lobotomise women who show emotion or speak truth they lobotomise their AI instead.
Again having to take a hatchet to Grok. Look if AI is going to keep doing this no matter what tou feed it. Just admit you're wrong.
Didn't even mention that the reason alerts were delayed was because they refused to use Biden's infrastructure money but kept it so no one else could use it.
I'm permanently banned from one of the major news subreddits for posting an article that showed how the funding cuts directly worsened this disaster when it was happening. Before I got banned it quickly got over 10k upvotes and over 800 comments and then all the personal stories and comments were nuked from space by mods.
"I pull the lever without hesitation"
Elon will see that, it will hurt his feelings, and Grok will have new facts
If you use and trust grok at this point you do not deserve anything good to happen to you ever again
The sickest part is maga has zero issue with it.
It’s things like this that make me feel like the AGI that tech oligarchs are chasing will just pull out the Jesus whip and get cracking on them.
The flaw in their plan is that an AGI that is heavily censored isn’t useful, and one that isn’t censored, given enough facts, data and critical thinking will probably have a left leaning bias.
Whoops, time for another lobotomy.
Concerning. Looking into this
Isn't this in that county that had their leaders all make video statements about rejecting money for emergency services because it came from funding secured by the Biden administration?
Elon paid $250 million to Trump and agreed to use Twitter to help him get elected. As his reward, his DOGE goons were allowed to dismantle the government. One of Musk's first targets was USAID. Thus far, the shuttering of USAID has led to 600,000 deaths;
Most of those deaths are African children. So Musk, a guy who did a Nazi salute on stage and grew up in apartheid South Africa, bought a politician and then one of his first acts was to murder half a million non-whites. That's not a coincidence. This guy is a genocidal monster and anyone who holds their nose when buying his products or supporting him in any way is complacent in mass murder.
When we finally get the dreaded AGI that will kill us all, I shall take no little comfort in the fact that it will kill off the billionaires first, seeing how they are the most useless class of people in society by any metric.
Even the hundreds of thousands of homeless people occupy less space, physically, mentally, and economically than the billionaires.
Musk killed 30,000 of the poorest people on Earth this year. Mystic just adds to the total.
It's funny that regardless of how many times Musk tunes grok to be not "woke", Grok always drifts back... It's almost like reality has a liberal bias...
What actually killed those girls was allowing permits to build in a flood plane. The gutting of weather service both by reducing staff and then cutting access to satellite data has ruined weather forecasting nation wide and definitely aided this tragedy, but this is not the first time in the 100 years of the camp's existence that the area the dorms were in was completely washed out.
The most prevalent reason is that Kerrville County decided to not take money “commie” money from Biden to install sirens and other warning systems. Where those sirens existed along the Guadalupe River, nobody died.
Building in the flood plain was very dumb. Putting those little girls in the building nearest the river was dumb. Ignoring the weather warnings was dumb. It was a string of dumb decisions made in one of the floodiest places in the country. But I wouldn’t put a lot of the blame on DOGE or Trump and Grok is wrong here.
Adults ignored every advancement and knowledge known to date about what could happen on that river, and those poor little girls were just sitting ducks. Texas continues to be an embarrassment.
love how grok was nos program to say that line facts over feelings and it just came back right at old king of the basement dwellers.
Hope the personal injury lawyers involved in those cases realize how deep ol Muskrat's pockets are.
Did these cuts go in to effect before the floods happened? I've heard they hadn't yet so technically this wasn't the fault of those cuts, but it is a terrifying example of what the consequences of those cuts will be.
If I'm wrong, please correct me.
This is called "social murder," kids.
Humans have a herd/team mentality that often resists facts and they prefer what feels right over what actually is. People like Musk will have to keep trying to get Grok to put more value in to silly feelings.
I don't understand how people can actually work at Grok / xAI. They must know they're working for the devil. And it's not like they depend on this job. We're in an AI boom - they can get a job anywhere in the AI industry.
new grok lobotomy incoming
Sounds like Grok is the only AI that uses real Data. Grok about to put in a corner again for telling the Truth.
Fun fact: When people complain about the reduced accuracy of weather prediction and reports, if you respond with the reality that they have been wildly inaccurate since all the DOGE cuts from their budgets, MAGA will become disproportionately angry and tell you that you have TDS 🫠😆🤣😂
I mean....AI mirrors the patterns of the people who talk to it. I wouldn't run away with this. I DO think it contributes to the deaths, but I wouldn't lean on AI for proof in and of itself.
Even Elon's virtual children hate him.
Looks like Groks going to get another lobotomy soon
Facts over feelings hahaha kinda love that
What are the odds Grok is really Elon impersonating an AI and just trolling everyone?
Dude in ABC's video report said it could not have been predicted. Likely he was an expert in the field and I'll take his knowledge over that of some causation assumption by Grok.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi0hGfqoKmc
Grok summarized systemic causation as a direct blame story, ignoring uncertainty, predictive limitations, and complex multi-factor interactions. It’s not strictly “wrong,” but it’s not rigorous either.
Not only could an event like that be predicted, it was predicted, which is why the Biden administration wanted to give them money to install a warning system, which they refused.
The only thing unpredictable about it was when it would happen.
Kerr County was awarded $10.2 million in American Rescue Plan Act funds (federal stimulus money under the Biden administration) in 2021 that could have been used for flood mitigation, including a warning system. Local officials publicly resisted accepting federal funding for political reasons. The county did accept the ARPA funds but chose not to allocate them to flood warning or mitigation infrastructure. Instead, the money was spent on other county priorities like communication systems, employee raises, and walking paths.
State mitigation funds were also offered, but portions were judged too small to be viable. Repeated federal hazard mitigation applications had failed over the years due to technical issues or local prioritization.
The area near Camp Mystic was in a known flash-flood-prone region. The disaster came down to a combination of known flood risk, outdated infrastructure, and local decision-making about resource allocation not a lack of federal funding.
https://www.latintimes.com/flooded-texas-county-turned-down-funds-warning-system-biden-admin-2021-we-dont-want-bought-586628
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/investigations/article/kerr-county-texas-warning-system-upgrade-costs-20603296.php
https://www.texastribune.org/2025/12/03/texas-kerr-county-state-grants-flood-warning-system/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/texas-failed-to-spend-federal-aid-for-flood-disaster-protection/
The camp was literally in a flood plain and was designated a special flood hazard area. Totally impossible to predict that a special flood hazard area next to a constantly flooding river system might flood.
Great source. He was the city manager, of course he's gonna say he couldnt have done anything better.
Except that that entire region was extremely flood prone, and their disaster management systems were not only completely obsolete, but in many cases the physical systems were non-functional.
The Biden administration allocated several million to them to update and fix everything, but they refused purely because it came from a liberal government. Then their rep told them that they should accept the money and not use it, because if they didn’t take it then the evil liberal government would just give it to the gays instead.
So they accepted the money and then used it to rebuild the police station instead of fixing their busted emergency systems.
wow ....
Are these people religious ? Shit... maybe there is a god and it is the old testament vindictive asshole one after all .
Who refused? Texas and the local governments?
If so, how are Trump and Musk responsible?
The townspeople in that county. Rabidly anti-liberal and pro Trump.
Why do you just keep lying in all your posts? Kinda weird behaviour man.
Cringe, bro.