I remember having enemy HP bars on Xbox, then my Xbox broke so I got the PC version without the expansions and being confused at the lack of enemy HP bars, so it definitely was an expansion thing
Well, I never played it without the DLCs and patches, hence the "after 20 years" in the title.
However I never clicked the Options button before, because I thought it'd bring up the same menu as clicking "Options" anywhere else - to me it was logical that perhaps someone would want to turn down the music without closing the journal.
As to why didn't they call the button "Index" or something - I don't know.
Oh my god. My brain just registered that these were literal CD expansions and I just called them DLCs. What's the word for getting old but adopting the ignorance and lingo of the young?
I remember the Sims 2. The expansions had to be installed in the order of release or otherwise they'd shitify.
Was literally easier to just torrent the full collection and install it than to install the genuine discs. No wonder why they ended up the second most-pirated game after Spore.
Tribunal and Bloodmoon were full CD expansions and one of those updated the journal.
You are right that siege at fort firemoth was one of the plug-ins (along with the swamp bugs/noises, entertainers, etc) that were downloadable but technically predate the term DLC. Now I'm remembering how horse armor in oblivion pissed everyone off so much and is technically one of the first DLC I think?
Most assuredly the Mandela effect. I remember struggling having to go page by page to find directions for old quests I hadn't completed and learning to just get one quest at a time and doing it until completion to avoid losing it in the sea of pages
That's fair but I promise I had about a billion hours on the original playing in the barracks. No lifing all day and night and I am 100 percent the type of person who opens every tab and menu to see what they do, and the journal definitely didn't have thosr neat options until the expansions.
I also found it out only after I played the game for several years. However, comments suggest, that this feature added later, with dlc, but I started playing upon release, bought dlc, but probably missed info about it.
I learned this about a year ago when I joined this sub. Been playing off and on since 2004. I still keep my own physical journal on each playthrough because habit.
Ah yes, the physical things. I had printed Diablo 4 maps to find all the shrines to Lilith and was marking the ones I had visited. Also I'm counting persuassions in Kingdoms of Amalur on paper to get the 50 persuassions trophy (the last one missing for the platine)
it comes from Tribunal i think?
Didn't used to. One if those sweet QOL updates
Has ever since the original DLCs. Honestly might be the best part of the DLCs lol.
pretty sure the enemy health bar was added by the DLC patches too
That i am not as sure of. Apparently not a big enough dopamine hit to make a mark, but i assure you I remember when the journal became useful.
to think you need even bigger dopamine hit to make a recall
Well played goddammit. Genuine lol
but no recall or intervention can work in this place - there is no escape
I remember having enemy HP bars on Xbox, then my Xbox broke so I got the PC version without the expansions and being confused at the lack of enemy HP bars, so it definitely was an expansion thing
It was. Both of these came with the Tribunal expansion. The quest log only came with the PC version, though.
The base game didn't have the yellow enemy health bars?
Nope.
Yellow bar that appears near hp/mp/sp bars was from the start iirc.
Well, I never played it without the DLCs and patches, hence the "after 20 years" in the title.
However I never clicked the Options button before, because I thought it'd bring up the same menu as clicking "Options" anywhere else - to me it was logical that perhaps someone would want to turn down the music without closing the journal.
As to why didn't they call the button "Index" or something - I don't know.
Oh my god. My brain just registered that these were literal CD expansions and I just called them DLCs. What's the word for getting old but adopting the ignorance and lingo of the young?
I need to sit down.
I remember the Sims 2. The expansions had to be installed in the order of release or otherwise they'd shitify.
Was literally easier to just torrent the full collection and install it than to install the genuine discs. No wonder why they ended up the second most-pirated game after Spore.
I pirated spore.
I became pirates in spore.
I think just plugins would be the right term correct? What else did we call them? Same with Siege at Fort Firemoth
Tribunal and Bloodmoon were full CD expansions and one of those updated the journal.
You are right that siege at fort firemoth was one of the plug-ins (along with the swamp bugs/noises, entertainers, etc) that were downloadable but technically predate the term DLC. Now I'm remembering how horse armor in oblivion pissed everyone off so much and is technically one of the first DLC I think?
You mean expansion packs, nobody had ever used the term DLC back then!
I miss that weird middle era where games had big expansion packs and then small dlc addons, before everything just started getting called dlc
Lol I realized this further down the thread.
Yeah that's what I was thinking.
My "Quests" section is always empty.
Dunno, I played in 2002 on pc w/o any dlc and I definetly remember log as it's on the screenshot 🤔 Mandela effect?
Most assuredly the Mandela effect. I remember struggling having to go page by page to find directions for old quests I hadn't completed and learning to just get one quest at a time and doing it until completion to avoid losing it in the sea of pages
I also remember doing that since I didn't suspect that a button called "Options" can actually bring index and quest log
That's fair but I promise I had about a billion hours on the original playing in the barracks. No lifing all day and night and I am 100 percent the type of person who opens every tab and menu to see what they do, and the journal definitely didn't have thosr neat options until the expansions.
I can't recall how well Oblivion's journal system worked, but overall I think this version of the Morrowind journal is better than the one in Skyrim
Skyrim has the worst UI of all the ES games.
isn't the Oblivion remaster even worse
arguably
Now I've got to try this...I did always wonder why quests had names on uesp but not anywhere in game....
I also found it out only after I played the game for several years. However, comments suggest, that this feature added later, with dlc, but I started playing upon release, bought dlc, but probably missed info about it.
Only on PC, though, I'm pretty sure
Oh my gods... OH MY GODS
I learned this about a year ago when I joined this sub. Been playing off and on since 2004. I still keep my own physical journal on each playthrough because habit.
Ah yes, the physical things. I had printed Diablo 4 maps to find all the shrines to Lilith and was marking the ones I had visited. Also I'm counting persuassions in Kingdoms of Amalur on paper to get the 50 persuassions trophy (the last one missing for the platine)