Tw: horrendous English and long silly story
Well... I just don't like to turn off the text chat in games. But in ranked stadium Moira hate is so much stronger, than in bronze (sry, I have only 60~70 hrs in ow2, I have every right to be that low!), which is just... Stupid for me.
Tl;dr My tank tried to ragebait me so I ragebaited him back with toxic positivity
So my personal #1 method is "dear-bait". I had that Orisa and he yelled at me (and sometimes at my friend Kiriko, but mostly at me) that we were "not healing" (we were; I had more damage than that guy and we both had #1 and #2 heals in game) and that Moira is the easiest char so she should have at least 5k healing at the start (I'm serious!). So, I just started to answer him at the most friendliest and nicest way. He clearly tried to ragebait me, screaming that he will report me and Kiriko. So I just ragebaited him back with being nice. He was aggressive for a few more matches, but in the end he stfu and we won the game!
But sometimes I feel frustrated as a dedicated Moira enjoyer. How do you deal with Moira hate?
P.s. We met him as an enemy doomfist next match and destroyed him, lol
I cope with it by reminding myself that I'm playing the game to have fun and I have fun when I'm playing Moira - what everyone else thinks of her is immaterial.
You're giving it too much thought. After I've gotten silenced for 2 weeks I've learned to mostly keep it shut. Saves me from tilting. If I'm on Moira, I literally don't bat an eye. If on pharah (I'm a pharah main more than moira) I'm getting "fara swich dey hev soldier", I don't (unless said soldier genuinely knows how to aim). Stop engaging and start observing. Less you type = less you tilt = better you play
Thank you! I usually don't play online games where chat is available during gameplay (TF was much more chill with my battle medic), so maybe I'm overreacting lol.
One more thing: it's fucking bronze as you mentioned. Don't. Take. Any advice from bronze players, and don't take anything they say seriously. elo hell is real -- some people in high bronze are genuinely competent -- but they also won't tell you how to play the game. Bronze players telling a Moira what to do is dunning krueger effect. 95% of bronzes are in bronze for a reason
Additionally if you like you can dm me a replay code or two of yours (ideally a close loss in comp). I know moira very well and I can give you rank appropriate vod review. I've been hardstuck bronze for a while so I know what it's like but currently I'm a mid gold moira (display rank is lower than that but I happened to reverse smurf on a high gold low plat account and I did perfectly OK so I know my real performance)
I wish I had a fresh game. Tomorrow will play few games on her in ranked, since today it was stadium and unranked only...
OK it's just an offer
Too tempting to decline!
equip her “ absolute zero” voice line and spam it at your teammate who’s hating
I do this with "Stupidity is not a right"
“Your ignorance frightens me” Also works too.
also works!
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I'm stealing this
"Aren't you just pathetic" also works very well for me.
i use “unbelievable,” especially when i say “fall back,” or “group up,” and i got a full team of icarus against the sun. (they get greedy and die)
I outplay my entire team. Bonus if I get POTG
"Nooo, you can't have more damage than me, I'm the dd! You should healbot and be like Mercy!"
Turn chat off and live blissfully unknown of the hate being thrown at you, it's great
Ctrl+shift+c, I’ll burn a fade cooldown to get chat out my face any day
Tell them you're a support, not a healer 😁
The problem is, stadium has whack ranking systems. So you may actually get matched with way better players while in normal ranked you play with people your own skill level.
In normal ranked, if they complain, you can just calm down by reminding yourselves that they also are in the same rank. They thus also don't really know what they are talking about. While it can help to do what they want, they rarely even know whats going on and just find someone to blame. I was healing someone with my ult once and got asked why i didn't heal them. Dude didn't even knew moira ult heals.
So yeah, in normal ranked, just chill, they don't know what they are talking about. You probably know your hero better than they do. Trust yourselve in making the right decision but be critical after the game and see what you could have done better. You still want to improve i assume?
And for stadium, the ranked system is fucked. Just mute people or don't give it any attention. You will have more fun in the long run.
Yeah, of course I wanna improve! I've been a stuck bronze one and, without blaming anyone, I think I belong more in silver, but getting out of bronze is pretty hard if you're not gold at least I believe.
But ranked stadium is a true elo hell lol. I had a bronze 4 and plat 2 players in my team... That was so cursed. But, honestly, I believe I'm doing pretty good at stadium tho, it's just Moira hate killing me cause it doesn't matter if I played well or bad — people going to yell at me and begging me to become their personal healbot, while my Kiriko friend can have less stats and be fine. I guess I really should start to ignore them.
The thing with stadium is, that people tend to need a good amount of healing. Kiriko is assumed to do other things, so they expect you to heal for 2 people.
Which Moira can certainly do and is sometimes even required. But it's just not a fun way to play and requires putting way more trust into your team then i am normally comfortable with.
Moira however is also very mobile and can deal tremendous damage. So it's up to you to decide when to heal and when to deal damage. The truth is, your team will never be happy. So just do your best and have fun. If someone is actually just giving you advice, maybe look at it. If someone is just being a bitch tho, then don't waste time arguing with them.
I am trying to do both, actually! But even if I have crazy amount of both heal and damage, people are still accusing me for, like, being red head queen Moira is :(
Yeah I had a few recently where I was just like what the actual fuck are you doing in this rank? Like Ashe, Ana and either mei or cass just clicking heads the entire round, our whole team basically trapped in base. It started out a little closer but by the last round they were full weapon power and I was even getting two shotted by just Ana full WP body shots or something it was insane.
That said, usually stadium they are more chill on the Moira hate for me cause I think she’s generally acknowledged as much more viable with many builds than basic comp version. Maybe that’s just cope from me mixed with the fact that I’m getting MVP like maybe 50% of the time? Numbers don’t mean a lot but getting MVP multiple rounds does tend to make it a worse argument to whine about.
I just don't care. I play to have fun not to care what people say about me.
I embrace the moira hate and find it hilarious, sometimes i may or may not bait them and if they are clearly mad then That them, though i used to be a moira hater back when i first started playing she's now my highest level hero at 29
the reason i play moira is completely because of how much i like her as a character. if blizzard spontaneously reworked her into being the most difficult hero to play in the game, it wouldn’t deter me. i love moira more than anyone could hate me for it
Uhhh I don't think you love her more, than I do! If they rework her into absolute trash with 0 damage 0 heals, I will still play her. She is so awesome.
perhaps we both love her an equal amount, then!!!!! she is my favourite character in all of fiction and i have thought about her multiple times every single day since the first time i ever saw her
Omg same, she is literally on my mind every day, she's so gorgeous...
on the list of my worries, a random stranger's opinion on my overwatch gameplay is at the bottom.
i'm spamming "you're welcome".
it works like a charm!
I'm my peak I was high masters with Moira and didn't get a lot of hate. When I got I just say something about "look at the scoreboard" and mute the bastard. Fuck them.
Sometimes I'll get grief before tge match starts. I just show them why a Moira is valuable for the team, and that shuts them up. Plus, I like to think olif she was real, she wouldn't give a shit about things said about her, works in real life too!
i have never had as much fun playing online games as i do with moira, so it doesn't bother me at all. however if i feel like someone's being too annoying, i clap back. they're usually not even good so i have plenty of comenacks.
haters will hate no matter what. if you wanna get better for your own ego watch top players tutorials. i have hundreds of hours on moira and im not above watching others play her so i can learn from it. im good enough that i dont care about having bad games anymore cuz what other people do is out of my control. if i end a game with 3k heals, thats that. next game ill probably get over 10k heals. its a very situational game.
I watch Arx daily! Maybe you can recommend other youtube/twitch content makers that have more Moira content?
when i get off work ill look for any of the ones ive watched. its never any one person, just single videos i found useful.
Ty!
so the last one i watched was actually an arx video and that one helped me stop healbotting. looking through my history all the videos i watched are outdated atp. tbh keep watching arx just dont try to mimic his gameplay if it doesnt work for you. just learn from it and you should be solid.
It exactly works for me! I'm really happy he's making his videos daily so I can learn. Either way, ty for checking for me!
I usually say one of two things if they're being really annoying.
"So you're angry because I'm having fun? That's fucking weird"
" I like to play as Moria because she's fun and easy You know, like your mom."
I turned off chat in both OW and Marvel Rivals and my experience has been absolutely great. I have no idea if people are raging or not, I’m just vibing.
laugh into their faces
Nothing is embarrassing when you’re shameless
I am generally even-stevens for heals and dps (as I blv Moira is meant to be given how she heals) but if my team is getting stomped I lean into healing to help them do their best and if that's still not enough I lean into dps and usually flank to take out the weaker ones and give my team the edge to get a foothold and go back to healing. I almost never catch flack. I did have a mercy crash out on me in stadium the other day saying idk how to play Moira and I don't know how to build, and I just ignored her and outhealed her and we won and I got PoG, lol.
Don't let people tell you how to play. Support comes in many forms, and you need to be fluid and evolving.
Moira's excellent in stadium. Players who think otherwise aren't worth the effort of consideration. Don't engage; do your thing and enjoy leading the board every round.
Hater tears fuel me on Moira as on Sym/Mei/Sombra; I leave them unmuted for the laughs and reports. The most explicit get pinned to my avoid list; when I see them actioned later, I laugh again.
I turn chat off and don’t listen.
As Tyrion Lannister said : Never forget what you are. The rest of the world will not. Wear it like armor, and it can never be used to hurt you.
"You want more heal? Don't worry baby girl, my eyes are all your's now. I'll protect you. Just tell me if someone hearts you ♡♡♡"
I wish Moira said this to me-
Personally I just ignore them and look at my signed Moira print and photo with her VA. Moira is literally one of my top two favourite characters of all time across all of my interests, I literally don’t care how “brain dead”she is I’m gonna main her forever.
Honestly just ignore them, if you like moira you like her and you’re allowed to play her. If they hate her and don’t want people to pick her that much they shouldn’t play the game she’s in. Everyone’s allowed to play whoever they want, that’s the whole point of a hero shooter, and anyone who disagrees and thinks certain heroes shouldn’t be played should go find a different genre of game to play. Wouldn’t even recommend typing back, let them scream at the void and embarrass themselves.
+if you can find a duo/group that doesn’t mind you playing moira, it’s nice to have your plays hyped up & hype up others
So based. Moira is the only reason I continued playing ow2. She's just too good in everything. I'm just really new to ow, my only online games b4 were tf2, where community is pretty nice towards brain-dead playstyles and... Oh, I better not mention that toxic trash game. So I'm not really used to being bullied for, ehh, playing a certain character. Also I feel a bit envious about that signed Moira print now, xd.
Honestly that’s fair enough, ig it can be kind of a culture shock in a way if you’re not used to the more toxic game communities As long as you like her & her playstyle that’s all that matters at the end, these toxic ppl need to remember that not everyone wants to become a GM level esports player, some of us are just here for our faves and that’s fine !
Nah, I'm pretty used to toxicity (you know about dbd?), but not in that way. I'm used to my mom being mentioned 9/10 games, but hating on my favourite character just because she requires less aim? Nah, that's what I find idiotic.
Ahh I see, I don’t know too much about dbd but I have heard that it’s really toxic (kinda what stopped me from trying it even though they have Dracula)
You’re absolutely right though it’s still baffling… I don’t see why they can’t just focus on playing their own hero, after all, esp in lower elos wouldn’t you prefer to have someone on an easy hero than a hard one? I’m hard stuck silver and always get a lil nervous when someone on my team pulls out the harder heroes lol
It’s just so unnecessary.. god forbid someone happens to like a simpler character, or even just doesn’t wanna play something that requires too much mechanical skill
As someone's who's aim is horrible due to terrible eyesight I find it funny, when people trying to force me to play aim-dependent characters. Like... You want me to throw your game because everything looks like a colourful mess to me? I 100% understand and support your point of view. God, this subreddit has so many nice people. And they say "Moira mains are toxic", uh.
I'm a level 210 Moira with Endorsement 5 and quite honestly I never ever receive hate for playing Moira. Doesn't matter if I'm in QP or Comp or Stadium.
The only time anyone ever asks me to switch is a one trick that cannot handle that I selected first. And in those cases I typically will switch to Ana and hope the tank knows what Line-of-Sight is.
Lower ranks are gonna bully the hell out of Moira if they see her doing damage for 0.1 sec lol.
if they die and the last orb they saw whiz by was purple... then it can be triggering.
They can't understand that sometimes Moira can't save them when they go 1v1 bastion on a low hp...
If they're ragebaiting, they want me to be mad. Why would I get mad and give them what they want? I'm not gonna let some 12 year old on a cartoon game have a hold over my emotions, lol.
Huh, I rarely get hate. Maybe 1 in every 20 or 30 games, I get someone sassy. But I have a low tolerance, and the moment someone starts being a jerk, I mute or block them. I probably have some of the rudest players already blocked and don't see if they're being an ahole.
Usually, the weakest link on the team is the first player to be rude.
I turn off chat.