Can you explain why it’s nonsense? Why are there empty “daycare” and “healthcare” centers getting millions in taxpayer dollars? That doesn’t seem fishy to you in the least bit?
I watched the clip and it's not clear at all if what he's seeing is fraud, or if he doesn't understand that not all daycares are going to be operating 24/7 with kids at them.
At least a few of the places they visited they only showed paid claims from the state up to FY2022, so again, what are we seeing? Fraud, or a biz that has since shut down?
There is a long way between his on the ground report, and "billions in fraud".
All that being said - it's clear the state/feds/local govts need provider audits/verification in place to assure folks that their tax dollars are being used appropriately. No argument there.
Lmao he walks up to these places in the middle of the week in the middle of the day, quit deflecting. His most recent videos, covering the “Learing” place in Minneapolis was in the middle of the day and the place had nobody there and the door was even locked. The place has received $1.9 million this year in government funds, despite there being an investigation and even a warning given out to it a couple of years ago.
Liberals love and accept corruption, especially when it benefits foreign nationals who shouldn’t be here in the first place.
Yea and if the no kids+blacked out windows wasn't enough, just literally listen to how these people were acting when asked simple questions. They didn't know basic things like how many children are there. If their operations were legit they should know some of those basic questions, not even ball park numbers. Everyone should be pissed about this, and you don't even have to like the people exposing this to appreciate actual journalism for a change.
My hunch is they are visiting at times when not many kids are present and the staff likely has been instructed to not let unknown people in as a general security measure. If my kids were in a daycare, would i want some random youtuber with a film crew coming in and video taping them? Probably not.
I watched the clip and it's not clear at all if what he's seeing is fraud
I think the daycare center that has a sign that says 'quality LEARING center' (misspelling 'learning' wrong) and nobody that answers the door should tip you off.
I don't live in Minneapolis, or even Minnesota. Hell, not even the US. But the fact reddit has absolutely zero coverage over nick shirley's video which alleges widespread benefit fraud is a crime in on of itself.
Anyone who doesn’t care about what’s going on or thinks it’s irrelevant is beyond dumb. The evidence, the footage, all of it is so blatant. This shouldn’t be controversial. Every single thing isn’t a right or left issue.
This isn’t a few dollars here or there, we’re talking BILLIONS.
If liberals want to be absolute solid on losing voters and continuing to push people right, turn a blind eye to this. If that’s the plan, you’re on your way to wild success.
This would be as if you had a foster kid in your home who was robbing you and shrugged and acted like it wasn’t happening . You can deeply care and have empathy while also acknowledging what is happening and addressing it. Not all Somalians are like this OBVIOUSLY. The people doing this are hurting the Somali community more than anyone ironically.
Also saying it is wrong to dialogue with these business owners… do you realize how unintentionally patronizing that is to the business owners? 😂
No one will talk about it on here. Everyone should be enraged. But bc it makes Timmy look bad, they turn a blind eye. And make up every excuse like this isn’t happening. You all were robbed of your tax dollars! This isn’t bi-partisan either as you mentioned. I barely look at this sub anymore it’s a literal echo chamber of liberals who cannot chat with another person - they go right to name calling. And the mods let it happen. Same with Minnesota sub.
Yep. People don’t care about politics, they care about sides. Sides is about ego.
My side can’t be wrong. We see it on the right, we see it on the left.
I don’t support corruption of any kind and anyone should be ashamed to do so.
Also, fraud aside… anyone find it interesting that these places have don’t have inspections? Clearly they aren’t being inspected.
Regardless of politics Nick Shirley is what journalism should be. Boots on the ground going in to see if what’s being said is true, and welp. Looks pretty true to me.
I did not know this existed! Thank you! No one can have a serious convo on here they go straight to name calling, why would I give one shit about a person on the Minneapolis Reddit sub tearing me down lol. The mods let it happen. It’s gross.
Thank god. I’m proud of this state and these subs ruin it by constantly talking about politics without a civil conversation. Keep the downvotes coming lol
I’m actually astonished by this claim and am very curious how you figure that. My guess would be that you are a strict Marxist and think any news outlet that promotes free markets is “center right at best”.
I would recommend reading “Manufacturing Consent” by Edward Herman and Noam Chomsky if you actually want to learn more, but I’m guessing you probably won’t bother
I’ve read The Chomsky Reader and know the general theme of “Manufacturing”. Even Chomsky says that the book is about power structures influencing media, not that they are taking direct orders from the elites per se (I know you’re not claiming conspiracy, but I think you’re maybe implying that any lip service to progressive ideals by outlets like MSNBC is actually obfuscating their allegiance to the capitalist machine).
One big issue I think with manufacturing is that it’s outdated. We’ve got such a varied and decentralized media eco system now and corporate media has less power than ever. If an idea takes off via podcasts, social media, or independent news, corporate media will run with it.
Maybe we’re not on the same page with our definitions. When I said “left wing” media outlets, I meant ones that support the post modern new Marxist ideologies. I’m guessing you’re adhering to the original definition from the French Revolution which makes more sense now based on what you’ve said.
Well I don’t follow right wing media. And all I get from this sub is posts mistaking uber black for ICE and people pretending the massive fraud is not happening.
Not that I think you actually care, but no, posting on Reddit doesn’t actually make a difference; what it can do is direct people to organizations that are patrolling neighborhoods, providing legal observer training, delivering groceries to families in need, and other activities that actually are making a difference.
The video on his X page currently has 55 million views as of Saturday night. It'll probably reach 100 million within a few days. I'm gonna go ahead and say people know who he is and everyone cares.
People who are feigning ignorance or being dismissive, ask yourself if you are being objective. You shouldn't care about the personal politics of the person shining light on this fraud. It is in the interest of every Minnesotan and certainly every Minneapolis resident to have investigative reporting like this. Frankly, we need more from our local news outlets.
You aren’t wrong, but it’s pretty hard to just paper over what’s in the video and dismiss it as bias. That being said it would be nice to be able to dissect it in the light of day and it’s beyond frustrating we aren’t allowed to here.
A lot of his video like his North Korea one were pretty much right wing propaganda, but his video on the child care and healthcare center fraud in Minnesota seemed quite accurate.
He basically filmed a video a couple weeks ago of a bunch of child care centers in the Minneapolis area that supposedly had 70+ kids, but there were zero kids in any of them, and most of them didn't even have the capacity to hold that many people. Several of those places had many documented violations on the state website.
Can you explain why it’s nonsense? Why are there empty “daycare” and “healthcare” centers getting millions in taxpayer dollars? That doesn’t seem fishy to you in the least bit?
No you see we need this to own the chuds
I watched the clip and it's not clear at all if what he's seeing is fraud, or if he doesn't understand that not all daycares are going to be operating 24/7 with kids at them.
At least a few of the places they visited they only showed paid claims from the state up to FY2022, so again, what are we seeing? Fraud, or a biz that has since shut down?
There is a long way between his on the ground report, and "billions in fraud".
All that being said - it's clear the state/feds/local govts need provider audits/verification in place to assure folks that their tax dollars are being used appropriately. No argument there.
Lmao he walks up to these places in the middle of the week in the middle of the day, quit deflecting. His most recent videos, covering the “Learing” place in Minneapolis was in the middle of the day and the place had nobody there and the door was even locked. The place has received $1.9 million this year in government funds, despite there being an investigation and even a warning given out to it a couple of years ago.
Liberals love and accept corruption, especially when it benefits foreign nationals who shouldn’t be here in the first place.
Yea and if the no kids+blacked out windows wasn't enough, just literally listen to how these people were acting when asked simple questions. They didn't know basic things like how many children are there. If their operations were legit they should know some of those basic questions, not even ball park numbers. Everyone should be pissed about this, and you don't even have to like the people exposing this to appreciate actual journalism for a change.
My hunch is they are visiting at times when not many kids are present and the staff likely has been instructed to not let unknown people in as a general security measure. If my kids were in a daycare, would i want some random youtuber with a film crew coming in and video taping them? Probably not.
One of the specific ones in the segment ("Quality Learning Center Inc"), has all their license and inspection history here - https://licensinglookup.dhs.state.mn.us/Details.aspx?l=1087038
I think the daycare center that has a sign that says 'quality LEARING center' (misspelling 'learning' wrong) and nobody that answers the door should tip you off.
That you are even defending this is insane
I don't live in Minneapolis, or even Minnesota. Hell, not even the US. But the fact reddit has absolutely zero coverage over nick shirley's video which alleges widespread benefit fraud is a crime in on of itself.
It’s like this for everything that makes the left look bad.
Anyone who doesn’t care about what’s going on or thinks it’s irrelevant is beyond dumb. The evidence, the footage, all of it is so blatant. This shouldn’t be controversial. Every single thing isn’t a right or left issue. This isn’t a few dollars here or there, we’re talking BILLIONS. If liberals want to be absolute solid on losing voters and continuing to push people right, turn a blind eye to this. If that’s the plan, you’re on your way to wild success.
This would be as if you had a foster kid in your home who was robbing you and shrugged and acted like it wasn’t happening . You can deeply care and have empathy while also acknowledging what is happening and addressing it. Not all Somalians are like this OBVIOUSLY. The people doing this are hurting the Somali community more than anyone ironically.
Also saying it is wrong to dialogue with these business owners… do you realize how unintentionally patronizing that is to the business owners? 😂
No one will talk about it on here. Everyone should be enraged. But bc it makes Timmy look bad, they turn a blind eye. And make up every excuse like this isn’t happening. You all were robbed of your tax dollars! This isn’t bi-partisan either as you mentioned. I barely look at this sub anymore it’s a literal echo chamber of liberals who cannot chat with another person - they go right to name calling. And the mods let it happen. Same with Minnesota sub.
Yep. People don’t care about politics, they care about sides. Sides is about ego. My side can’t be wrong. We see it on the right, we see it on the left. I don’t support corruption of any kind and anyone should be ashamed to do so.
Also, fraud aside… anyone find it interesting that these places have don’t have inspections? Clearly they aren’t being inspected.
Regardless of politics Nick Shirley is what journalism should be. Boots on the ground going in to see if what’s being said is true, and welp. Looks pretty true to me.
I also think Reddit users exist and go from subs city by city, stirring up shit not even living in the cities. They gobble it up here.
TDS is a helluva drug
You know black and white thinking is one of the main components of mental illness right? IE “if you’re not left you have TDS” Captain zero nuance
That's an interesting argument you're making, about a claim that I didn't make. What's that called again....?
Yeah, what’s it feel like?
Mental illness
Their response was mental illness. Bro. Go feel the sun on your face.
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It hasn’t been deleted what are you talking about
Many posts about this topic have been taken down on this sub.
It’s really frustrating that we’re all being treated like kids where we can’t even have a serious conversation about it.
Reddit is shit tier social media. X is the only place to freely discuss things.
I did not know this existed! Thank you! No one can have a serious convo on here they go straight to name calling, why would I give one shit about a person on the Minneapolis Reddit sub tearing me down lol. The mods let it happen. It’s gross.
All reddit state/city subs are like this. Reddit is far from an accurate depiction of reality if that makes you feel better though.
Thank god. I’m proud of this state and these subs ruin it by constantly talking about politics without a civil conversation. Keep the downvotes coming lol
The more exposure of the fraud the better.
Yeah bro it’s only been spammed across all right wing media every day for the last month or so. Let’s hear some more.
I hadn’t seen a peep about this until today.
He just released the full 42-minute video today.
He ramped it up the way movie folks do. Not a bad strategy!
Would you admit that left wing media isn’t covering it as thoroughly as is warranted?
No. There is no such thing as “left wing media”. All corporate media is center right at best.
I’m actually astonished by this claim and am very curious how you figure that. My guess would be that you are a strict Marxist and think any news outlet that promotes free markets is “center right at best”.
I would recommend reading “Manufacturing Consent” by Edward Herman and Noam Chomsky if you actually want to learn more, but I’m guessing you probably won’t bother
"Look at me! I'm a pseudo-intellectual!"
Call me whatever you want. It’s not my fault you’re afraid of books.
I’ve read The Chomsky Reader and know the general theme of “Manufacturing”. Even Chomsky says that the book is about power structures influencing media, not that they are taking direct orders from the elites per se (I know you’re not claiming conspiracy, but I think you’re maybe implying that any lip service to progressive ideals by outlets like MSNBC is actually obfuscating their allegiance to the capitalist machine). One big issue I think with manufacturing is that it’s outdated. We’ve got such a varied and decentralized media eco system now and corporate media has less power than ever. If an idea takes off via podcasts, social media, or independent news, corporate media will run with it.
Maybe we’re not on the same page with our definitions. When I said “left wing” media outlets, I meant ones that support the post modern new Marxist ideologies. I’m guessing you’re adhering to the original definition from the French Revolution which makes more sense now based on what you’ve said.
Well I don’t follow right wing media. And all I get from this sub is posts mistaking uber black for ICE and people pretending the massive fraud is not happening.
Find another sub then, one that doesn’t hurt your feelings so much.
Potato brain take
Can’t argue with that logic and reason. You have defeated me utterly.
This is the type of problem that should be discussed until it's resolved.
And how exactly is spamming Reddit going to resolve it?
It helps in the same way that posting anything on social media helps.
How is spamming about ICE going to solve anything? Explain the difference.
Not that I think you actually care, but no, posting on Reddit doesn’t actually make a difference; what it can do is direct people to organizations that are patrolling neighborhoods, providing legal observer training, delivering groceries to families in need, and other activities that actually are making a difference.
Am I supposed to know or care about this person? I've never heard that name in my life.
Nobody knows who you are, and no one particularly cares, Nick.
You don’t care about $9 billion in fraud?
I care, you should care.
Found Nick's mom!
Hilarious.
I am way more extreme than Nick's mom, trust me.
Clearly you leared gud over there, you know, at the learing center.
The video on his X page currently has 55 million views as of Saturday night. It'll probably reach 100 million within a few days. I'm gonna go ahead and say people know who he is and everyone cares.
The grifter the "Fall of Minneapolis" people have been spamming? Who gives a fuck?
Who?
Who is that
A YouTuber who documented blatant fraud at Somali daycares and autism centers.
Who? 😂
Curious why you’d use the laughing emoji. If you actually don’t know who that is and you’re curious a quick google search would clear it up.
People who are feigning ignorance or being dismissive, ask yourself if you are being objective. You shouldn't care about the personal politics of the person shining light on this fraud. It is in the interest of every Minnesotan and certainly every Minneapolis resident to have investigative reporting like this. Frankly, we need more from our local news outlets.
Or we could look to legit sources, and not some YouTube dumbass who's trying to gain fame off of this, and knows fuck-all about anything going on.
I’m watching the footage with my own eyes. He isn’t adding any commentary, he’s just showing what’s happening.
Do you think his video is fake and that these daycares are actually serving hundreds of kids?
Or you could look at multiple sources of information and not be an idiot.
You aren’t wrong, but it’s pretty hard to just paper over what’s in the video and dismiss it as bias. That being said it would be nice to be able to dissect it in the light of day and it’s beyond frustrating we aren’t allowed to here.
The biggest mistake with the Internet is letting any chuckle-fuck with a GoPro and a microphone call themselves a "journalist"
Fair point. In this case, what specifically do you think he got wrong as an amateur wannabe journalist?
Dude did more actual journalism in a single 40 min video than the NY Times, Washington Post, MSNBC and CNN have done in the last 20 years.
oh sorry, you need 75,000 in collage loans before you can be called that
So no George Floyd reporting by Unicorn Riot et al?
you can’t be serious
A lot of his video like his North Korea one were pretty much right wing propaganda, but his video on the child care and healthcare center fraud in Minnesota seemed quite accurate.
He basically filmed a video a couple weeks ago of a bunch of child care centers in the Minneapolis area that supposedly had 70+ kids, but there were zero kids in any of them, and most of them didn't even have the capacity to hold that many people. Several of those places had many documented violations on the state website.
Two things can be true:
Fraud is real and concerning.
Shirley is a grifter who just found a goldmine.