Seeing so much misandry and misogyny, forcing manospheres, forcing tradwives, normalizing some racism (including antisemetism) is getting way too much to the point they are scared of intimacy.
Many say modern women are entitled mean people, modern men as weak crybabies.
The rate of femicide (not just black but even white on white) is literally so high at this point amongst Gen Zers, with even Gen Z girls victim blaming other girls and women for the murder
It is too much.
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I think most normal people will have a healthy view of the opposite gender.
The loudest voices tend to be a vocal minority… but again, it’s a large group of people regardless and we do live at an age where everything is intense and weird.
I think the only way we can get rid of this, is if society WILLINGLY wants to change and listen to the other side. Something that takes maturity. But when we have literally have 25 year-olds and older throwing temper tantrums like toddlers, and iPad kids growing up, I’d say we’re cooked.
Most people do not have a healthy view of the opposite gender lol. Women are taught to be very cautious around men from an early age. That is not healthy. It may be normalized, but it is not healthy. The reason women are taught to be cautious around men because a very large, non-negligible portion of men are dangerous to women. This is not healthy either.
Yeah it's not ideal, but I wouldn't say that makes their view of men in general unhealthy. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it doesn't seem to be that they believe every specific man is by his own merits a sexual predator - moreso that they are just trying to be safe rather than sorry whenever the situation doesn't necessitate anything else because of a small yet possible chance of danger.
That's the thing. It's not a small and possible chance of danger. Almost every woman has a story of them being harassed or assaulted, and that's with them being cautious and on guard. Most women don't feel the need to be cautious around other women. A healthy view of men would not require the amount of caution most women practice around them compared to other women.
Having caution is justified. But I meant normal common average people, I will argue they do have a healthy view of the opposite sex. The reason why I think this is because not everyone is a misogynist or misandrist.
I believe the reason why people do have unhealthy views of the opposite gender is because nobody knows how to navigate maturity, especially within the topics of sexuality.
Men do not know how to approach women. They don’t know what appeals to women. Men do think differently. Take for example male fans in korean meeting their female kpop idols, there were complaints that they weren’t groomed, smelled, or just weird, ect.
This isn’t the case for female fans meeting their male kpop idols, who dressed well, behaved accordingly, and no complaints.
It may seem like I’m bashing men, but that wasn’t my point. My point is that it takes time, effort, and willingness to learn from the opposite gender for better understanding.
We are a generation brought up by phones, media, unchecked issues, constant porn use, and social media bubbles.
This ISN’T normal. But normal people do exist. They aren’t extremists. Sure some people will have private opinions and maybe one or two pet peeves about the opposite genders, but to make it their personality? No.
It’s just extremes highlighted by influencers. Sure the boys vs girls things will always exist. But normal, well-adjusted, healthy people? They will have a normal views.
Yeah, the loudest ones make it feel worse than it is, but without people actually willing to listen, it’s hard to see things improving anytime soon.
Sadly, probably not or at least not in our lifetime. It can get better though
Only if they are actually educated and understand this trend is shit. But no they will continue.
Not to mention the whole Transphobia thing. That's always been there but it's definitely gotten worse in recent years.
Even by liberals. Trans, South Asians, Jews, Arabs, Persians, Turks, Kurds and even women are discriminated by liberals.
Leftist and Liberal are two different things if you're trying to say that Left wings hate on trans people. Because in my experience the right wing is almost always transphobic/anti trans.
There are some left wing hate. For example in 2023, many gender activists were mad at Jess Phillips for mentioning Brianna Ghey as a femicide victim (women and girls including trans get killed for existing)
What are you even talking about? Brianna Ghey's death was a hate crime, and her being trans was an aspect of it
Yes and activists told Jess Phillips off for even mentioning Brianna as a femicide victim, gender activists are usually liberal and therefore it poses some bias.
What do you mean by liberal? And how do you mean that happens?
Equality is a significant association with liberalism as it is socialist and progressivism
Not sure I follow. Are you now saying liberalism is associated with equality?
Yeah, classic liberalism is like that. Social liberals are typically socialist and progressives, with significant links to egalitarianism.
Never probably
Probably never when social media like TikTok exist or instagram or online dating.
For social media, they got way too comfortable uploading their stories just for a quick views or internet likes like it’s a competition or their views about gender war. And many influencers that have male audiences are more likely to grab males attention leading them to their bad behavior.
I probably have WAY too much faith in humanity, but I say a majority of that crap on the internet are just bots, trolls, or foreign actors to sow division and conflict.
We genuinely see this all the time, like the "America first maga" Twitter accounts made EVERYWHERE BUT THE UNITED STATES.
The minority of those who are real people are either "wanna be edge lords" or they are mentally ill or brainwashed. Because don't forget they are scum that admire serial killers and hitler.
just read some books and talk to people; most people really are not that way.
and by read some books, I mean like something real, some non-fiction; learn about the world and then go out and experience it.
I used to think just like this, and it only went away when I not only expanded my worldview, but also got out and met more people and experienced more of the world itself.
It helps a lot, trust me.
I think they are. A small echochamber consensus can truly brainwash others.
THIS won't end, it'll only get worse. The elites that have brainwashed the majority of women are getting exactly what they want. Let's just keep telling women all of their problems are because of Men and boy's, women are gullible and fell for it.
The only way out of THIS is some form of separation between Men and women, not a total separation but something has to give. At THIS point Men and women boys and girls need some space away from each other so cooler heads can finally come to the table and TALK.
Maybe get worse is fair enough. But what about the rate gender based killings?
THIS is where some form of separation can help. As I said not a total separation, because women as a gender do need Men to maintain civilization. Certain areas can be designated for women as certain areas/communities can be designated Men only.
Yes
To call it a war to begin with kinda misunderstands the situation in my opinion.
I can’t speak for you but I gather from your post that you’re speaking more about gender inequality and discourse on the internet. These are two separate things.
Gender inequality is far from being eradicated especially within the system we live in and the way it socialises us during our formative years.
As for gender discourse, there’s always people who have a reason to continue it, unfortunately. You must remember though, that algorithms tend to show you what gets the most engagement and nothing gets more engagement than discourse. The internet is massively exaggerated and real life isn’t nearly as bad
This generation was lost before it even began tbh
We are supposed to be the normal generation that heals the world from this shit 😭
Pfft people had always said this shit to younger generations as simultaneous as kids these days.
I think the best way to end the “gender war” is education. And also accountability.
Ex:
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We actually need to go outside and observe, and interact with people of the opposite gender and also people in relationships
Girls/Boys aren’t monoliths. While there may be common traits or things we find commonly attractive they aren’t always a requirement
(For men) Not all women require a 6 foot man or a man who makes 6 figures. I’ve seen fine as women with a dude shorter then them but with hella charisma. I’ve seen girls with bum looking ass dudes. You don’t have the mythical 6-6-6. And you don’t either.
Understand that dating apps aren’t an accurate representation of real dating and are made my evil companies trying to make a profit of the lack of genuine human connection. Humans act differently online then in person.
For my fellow men out there dating is a lot less risky for us. For us our risks are embarrassment and rejection. Generally the only thing we have to worry about is getting our feelings hurt by a women whose standards we don’t meet.
For women they have to worry about getting S.A.’d or a man not taking no for an answer. Men on average are quite a but stronger then women. So women need to be a lot more careful. (Not saying men can’t be SA’d it’s just less common)
9 .Understand that the people of the opposite gender are people too. With struggles and upbringing that shape their views. Bring compassion and understanding not bitterness as distain.
The gender war is not going to end, unless some people start developing their brains after kindergarten