Being a conservative is like being in a cult. You fall in line or you get frozen out. There have been conservative parents after a school shooting and after losing their child, who still say they don't want gun control.
By banning all guns do you mean the sell of firearms, because what of the right wing people who already own firearms, they now have a whole lot of power over the unarmed
American understands that people in other countries exist challenge: impossible. Also can’t respond to concept of not giving unrestricted firearms to anyone with money without turning it into some kind of libertarian “but muh guns”.
I will have you know I'm a Marxist. Hence why I don't trust the Trump Administration with control of my guns. Don't insult me by calling me a libertarian. Gross. Capitalism is gross.
Fucking Americans. I’m not downloading the stupid clock app to find out whatever nonsense this is. I’m not a liberal anyway. Do you know what a liberal is or are you gonna give me more distinctly American ethnocentric nonsense responses?
I'll have you look into the definition of neo liberal. Neoliberalism is an economic and political ideology that advocates for free-market capitalism, emphasizing privatization, deregulation, lower taxes, and minimal government intervention in the economy and public services. Rooted in classical liberalism, it views the market as the most efficient allocator of resources and a promoter of individual freedom. Key policies include reducing barriers to trade and capital, downsizing public spending and social welfare programs, and transforming citizens into market-oriented consumers.
Most of them happen in America. Gun free zone is meaningless when people in your country can buy any kind of firearm without so much as a background check.
I mean, this would obviously be my choice, but y'know, we're doing conservative logic, where helathcare ceos are innocent and the thousands of children dying aren't their fault at all
And Luigi was this evil crazy evil bad man who was just trying to kill an innocent family man or whatever
Here ya go. A little something I copy pasted a while ago.
National Institute of Justice (NIJ) database covering U.S. mass shootings from 1966 to 2019 found that 97.7% of perpetrators were male.
A Washington Post analysis of mass killings since 2006 found that 96% of mass shootings with a single perpetrator were committed by men.
The Violence Project, a nonpartisan research center that tracks mass shootings since 1966, has consistently reported that approximately 98% of perpetrators are male.
The FBI's analysis of active shooter incidents between 2000 and 2013 found that only 4% of perpetrators were female, and a 2014 study of lone-actor terrorists found that 96.6% were male.
Perpetrators who are transgender, nonbinary, or cisgender female are exceptionally rare. While some reporting has sown confusion around specific cases, these incidents account for only a tiny fraction of the total.
exactly. out of 268 mass shootings this year (depending on how you want to define a mass shooting), exactly 1 has been transgender. 0.3% of mass shootings have been done by trans people, who are roughly 1% of the population. i think (though i don't have sources for this, i just saw it on another subreddit) that in the roughly 5,000 mass shootings since 2013, 5 or 6 shooters have been transgender. that's around 0.1% of shooters. and i don't know about the other shooters, but despite being trans the one yesterday was a neo-nazi with racist and anti-semitic messaging written over her guns. she had "6 million wasn't enough" and the n word written on her guns, but that'll all be brushed aside
that's the kind of shit on her guns. yes she also had anti trump slogans, and i imagine those along with the fact that she was trans still be the only things that are reported on
See, notice that they don't say "than right wingers" or "than Nazis", because they know that'd be wrong. They gotta specify, "they weren't members of this specific group that most young people barely know about".
Is it just me, or does it feel like even rightie propaganda has gotten worse?
This is the answer. Every other discussion is a distraction from this. The solution (which most other countries have somehow already figured out) is to limit access to guns.
While that is true, this can't be accomplished by just adding more gun control legislation. There's already heaps of it, but clearly it's ineffective since a lot of gun control is being perpetrated by people with little to no understanding of firearms (i.e "A 9 mm blows the lung out of the body, or the entirety of the ATF.) What's needed is a complete rework of how gun laws are handled, because as it stands the current system isn't going to solve anybody's issues given its flaws
True. Federalism is the biggest obstacle to any sort of common sense reform. Even if one state has strong gun laws, someone from that state can cross borders and acquire a gun from a state flush with them.
OOP is highly gullible at best, and blatantly manipulative at worst.
"How do I know there are more school shooters with gender dysphoria than school shooters who support gun ownership as a right? Uhhhhhhhh......... They're crazy, they want to cut off their dicks! And if they're willing to do that, why wouldn't they be willing to cause a shootout!?"
If you've read my parody of this type of person... Thanks for your time, and sorry for reading that.
I find it funny how conservatives use tragedies as this to push on hate for trans, non-binary and GNC folks (and other minority groups) rather than push for common sense gun laws. that being said, a great percentage of mass shooters have been cis (het) white men but they’d never make memes about that 🙄
statistically, more school shooters have been using guns than using 60 year old men who eat bagels for every meal and are named william as their weapon of choice
Best estimate is that none of them are. Except for maybe the ones who geriatric boomer bought a family membership.
Seriously the NRA is dying out. They only members are olds ahh geezers and boomer fudds. Also the majority of mass shooters probably give two shit about guns besides cod coolness aspect like the emotional immature cowards they are.
Poor treatment and severe bullying => bad mental health => violent outburst. I'm not sure about the truthfulness of this particular statistic, but common sense would tell you there is a clear connection. They got the point A and C, but pointedly leave out B.
Real statistic for what? If you means shooters who identify as trans or non-binary there have been 4 or 5 ever. And at least 1 was lying. Meanwhile there are hundreds of shootings every year in the US by cis men.
Statically less people died using reverse grip in battle than people using forward grip
Always reverse grip even when reverse grip is the norm
the- the what?
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The reverse grip
but what did you say the reverse grip is?
You could call it some kind of...
New Norm...
When holding any type fo blade, a reverse grip is when the hitting part extends from the pinky side of the hand rather than the index side
Pls tell me you're joking because there was an obvious joke i was making
YouTube did this to me and now I can't help but read "reverse grip" with a very particular voice in my head
Is it the david or clark voice?
He's clarking it
hes clarking it so hard rn
Definitely Clark
An incredibly buff tattooed swordsman is currently en route to your location
I got a picture of Clark dw, it’ll stop him
Proof that reverse grip is viable
Statistically, gun control prevents most school shooting from ever happening.
Like seriously, how to conservative parents of young children manage the cognitive dissonance in your country?
Being a conservative is like being in a cult. You fall in line or you get frozen out. There have been conservative parents after a school shooting and after losing their child, who still say they don't want gun control.
If we can save just one life by banning all guns, i think we should do it.
By banning all guns do you mean the sell of firearms, because what of the right wing people who already own firearms, they now have a whole lot of power over the unarmed
Im just saying to generally get rid of all of them and start at square one where no one has any.
Gonna be hard when the majority of cops and sheriff are gonna be protecting they buddies. But the queers and poc will be raided though.
What if they weren't allowed to have any as well?
That would require the proletariat to enforce, with guns, most likely.
If other countries did it so can yours.
You really want the Trump Administration in control of your guns? YOU REALLY trust them that much?! I sure as hell don't.
American understands that people in other countries exist challenge: impossible. Also can’t respond to concept of not giving unrestricted firearms to anyone with money without turning it into some kind of libertarian “but muh guns”.
I will have you know I'm a Marxist. Hence why I don't trust the Trump Administration with control of my guns. Don't insult me by calling me a libertarian. Gross. Capitalism is gross.
Ok, some kind of tankie “but muh guns”.
when a liberal calls you a tankie
Fucking Americans. I’m not downloading the stupid clock app to find out whatever nonsense this is. I’m not a liberal anyway. Do you know what a liberal is or are you gonna give me more distinctly American ethnocentric nonsense responses?
Oh my god can you be any more of an annoying asshole?!
Yes
I'll have you look into the definition of neo liberal. Neoliberalism is an economic and political ideology that advocates for free-market capitalism, emphasizing privatization, deregulation, lower taxes, and minimal government intervention in the economy and public services. Rooted in classical liberalism, it views the market as the most efficient allocator of resources and a promoter of individual freedom. Key policies include reducing barriers to trade and capital, downsizing public spending and social welfare programs, and transforming citizens into market-oriented consumers.
Do you believe in any of this?
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No
How would you classify your political beliefs?
Statistically, forced castration prevents rape
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I don’t think you know what the word statistically means.
What statistics are those?
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Gun free zones are to prevent spontaneous gun violence. Unfortunately there is no defense in America against planned gun violence.
Most of them happen in America. Gun free zone is meaningless when people in your country can buy any kind of firearm without so much as a background check.
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It's weirdly easy to lie with statistics when your target audience doesn't understand them
Like no shit they weren't NRA members, why would kids by NRA members, especially that sort of kid?
A handful of weeks ago, a post reached /all saying "More Europeans die from heat waves than Americans from mass shootings"
And, it might be true, but more Americans die from heat waves than Europeans from mass shootings too?
Thus the obvious r/americabad chud used statistics to turn a nothingburger into a bullshit "air conditioning before gun control" point.
At least I had the strength not to open the comments.
Thats wild, that could not be a more painfully obvious intentional misrepresentation
If they’re under 18, I bet none are also registered Democrats too.
Statistically, 100% of US male shooters named Luigi only kill healthcare CEOs
Damming statistics I tell you, we should ban the name luigi
Or name more people Luigi, depending on how you look at it.
I mean, this would obviously be my choice, but y'know, we're doing conservative logic, where helathcare ceos are innocent and the thousands of children dying aren't their fault at all
And Luigi was this evil crazy evil bad man who was just trying to kill an innocent family man or whatever
To be fair, he WAS almost certainly not a good person, but he absolutely had a point about healthcare CEOs
Idk from what I saw he seems like a fine dude in general, weird but okay, just snapped
I mean it’s not like kids are NRA members
Get stuffed.
Here ya go. A little something I copy pasted a while ago.
National Institute of Justice (NIJ) database covering U.S. mass shootings from 1966 to 2019 found that 97.7% of perpetrators were male.
A Washington Post analysis of mass killings since 2006 found that 96% of mass shootings with a single perpetrator were committed by men.
The Violence Project, a nonpartisan research center that tracks mass shootings since 1966, has consistently reported that approximately 98% of perpetrators are male.
The FBI's analysis of active shooter incidents between 2000 and 2013 found that only 4% of perpetrators were female, and a 2014 study of lone-actor terrorists found that 96.6% were male.
Perpetrators who are transgender, nonbinary, or cisgender female are exceptionally rare. While some reporting has sown confusion around specific cases, these incidents account for only a tiny fraction of the total.
But my feelings! /s
Thank you for your service
exactly. out of 268 mass shootings this year (depending on how you want to define a mass shooting), exactly 1 has been transgender. 0.3% of mass shootings have been done by trans people, who are roughly 1% of the population. i think (though i don't have sources for this, i just saw it on another subreddit) that in the roughly 5,000 mass shootings since 2013, 5 or 6 shooters have been transgender. that's around 0.1% of shooters. and i don't know about the other shooters, but despite being trans the one yesterday was a neo-nazi with racist and anti-semitic messaging written over her guns. she had "6 million wasn't enough" and the n word written on her guns, but that'll all be brushed aside
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that's the kind of shit on her guns. yes she also had anti trump slogans, and i imagine those along with the fact that she was trans still be the only things that are reported on
See, notice that they don't say "than right wingers" or "than Nazis", because they know that'd be wrong. They gotta specify, "they weren't members of this specific group that most young people barely know about".
Is it just me, or does it feel like even rightie propaganda has gotten worse?
Exactly. They are all right wing. Even the Columbine shooters.
Who cares what team the murderer is on? Just stop murderers from easily accessing weapons
This is the answer. Every other discussion is a distraction from this. The solution (which most other countries have somehow already figured out) is to limit access to guns.
While that is true, this can't be accomplished by just adding more gun control legislation. There's already heaps of it, but clearly it's ineffective since a lot of gun control is being perpetrated by people with little to no understanding of firearms (i.e "A 9 mm blows the lung out of the body, or the entirety of the ATF.) What's needed is a complete rework of how gun laws are handled, because as it stands the current system isn't going to solve anybody's issues given its flaws
I think most parents in this country would be all for a rework of gun related laws, if that's what it took to keep their children safe.
True. Federalism is the biggest obstacle to any sort of common sense reform. Even if one state has strong gun laws, someone from that state can cross borders and acquire a gun from a state flush with them.
OOP is highly gullible at best, and blatantly manipulative at worst.
"How do I know there are more school shooters with gender dysphoria than school shooters who support gun ownership as a right? Uhhhhhhhh......... They're crazy, they want to cut off their dicks! And if they're willing to do that, why wouldn't they be willing to cause a shootout!?"
If you've read my parody of this type of person... Thanks for your time, and sorry for reading that.
what parody?
"More school shooters are of two possibilities(trans or CIS) over an organization about guns for adults"
No fucking shit it that were actually true. Plus more cis folk like myself are school shooters, same with mass shooters
More of them are white men.... so if we use the same logic-
They have to use specifically the NRA membership bevause if you just compare liberal vs comservative, the numbers don't work for for the narrative lol
The person was in right wing hate forums. It doesn't matter if they were trans.
Where are they getting these stats? I’ve never heard such things.
From the Institute of Rauns from professor Bowl Shoite
The vast majority of mass shooters have been alt-right white men
The vast majority of teen school shooters would absolutely be NRA members if they were allowed to be
Statistically speaking, more school shootings have been committed by not Hitler than Hitler. Really makes you think if Hitler was really that bad.
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I find it funny how conservatives use tragedies as this to push on hate for trans, non-binary and GNC folks (and other minority groups) rather than push for common sense gun laws. that being said, a great percentage of mass shooters have been cis (het) white men but they’d never make memes about that 🙄
not even a day seperated from the shooting and we got shit like this.
And more have been cis tha trans.
Weren’t there, like…2 trans shooters?
It doesn't matter if they were part of the nra, they were still gun nuts. And trans shooters are very rare
They didn't mention or show a single one. HOW FUNNY
Ah yes the classic “we need to care more about what the shooters gender identity is than the people they killed”
yeah because how many teens join the nra lmfao
Do they even track those shooters based on nra membership?
Statistically, men are significantly more dangerous to be around than bears.
And this is supposed to…..what? Be a blow at trans liberals? This shit weak
statistically, more school shooters have been using guns than using 60 year old men who eat bagels for every meal and are named william as their weapon of choice
r/oddlyspecific
Also not how that meme template works
This meme needs a work cited page
With people posting this unironically i understand how trump won
97% of schools shooters are cishet white men, but sure...
weren't the only 2 transgenders conservatives ? the latest one being a neo nazi ?
Ah yes the "Kids died, but it helps me spread my agenda. sips tea" horseshit. These morons don't even realize how fucking psychotic they are.
"statistically" every single genocidal tyrant this world has ever seen were cis white male
like idk, you can say wild shit but it doesnt mean its true for literally every case when you look it from the other end
These are the same people who yell at immigrants for not speaking English.
... Rough guess, how many students consider themselves members of the NRA? Is it a really small number? I feel like it is.
Best estimate is that none of them are. Except for maybe the ones who geriatric boomer bought a family membership.
Seriously the NRA is dying out. They only members are olds ahh geezers and boomer fudds. Also the majority of mass shooters probably give two shit about guns besides cod coolness aspect like the emotional immature cowards they are.
That's some "most shark attacks happen in shallow water" bullshit
Statistically, New Yorkers bite more people then sharks
Statistically, most school shooters were American. Does that mean something about people from the US?
Statistically more leftist people are mentally ill than deers. Think about it
If they're right then it's more people who gets mistreated and persecuted for being trans, so to fix it they'd have to fix transphobia.
Technically true, but also irrelevant.
Thank you for your input, Clark.
Technically the truth, if you're referring to the part of statistics where you can present factual information in a way that is completely misleading.
What statistics are they using? Oh right, the ones they pulled out of their ass.
Poor treatment and severe bullying => bad mental health => violent outburst. I'm not sure about the truthfulness of this particular statistic, but common sense would tell you there is a clear connection. They got the point A and C, but pointedly leave out B.
Literally true though. Just because you don’t like the truth doesn’t make it fictional.
These people already know the statistics aren’t in favor of any policy they support
I feel like Kermit is about to take one to the neck. Isn’t that what follows that particular lie?
Why are they using one of my favorite mumpet characters to do this shit?
Can someone share the real statistics? Where can I find it?
Real statistic for what? If you means shooters who identify as trans or non-binary there have been 4 or 5 ever. And at least 1 was lying. Meanwhile there are hundreds of shootings every year in the US by cis men.