Only player that's actually made me think he should go for HIS sake. Yeah he's all over the place sometimes, but he's the only one in the last 10 years that will have a spot in my heart
If I’m Bruno I’m leaving in January. We aren’t bringing in anyone new to help the struggling squad under Fletcher, so it isn’t like we’ll be getting any better as he hoped. If he stays, he’d just be wasting a season under the purgatory that is an interim manager season.
Shit show. I would have understood in the summer if we didn't get Europe but with half the team missing and sitting in 6th. Players were all still onboard clearly, no telling when effect this will have on morale.
I have a massive finance exam tomorrow and this has sent me into a spin.
Your future is more important.
The back-and-forth about the club will still be here when your exam is over. You won’t miss much, don’t worry. Focus on your exam.
I think it was more of disagreement between the hierarchy and Amorim instead of football reasons. Amorim wanted more control of the club’s direction (transfers) and the directors were not ready for that.
Yeah he was also hurt/annoyed by the club essentially saying they had 65 million for Semenyo and then saying they can't target a midfielder using those funds instead since he was set to go to City. I get the frustration on that end since midfield was a more pressing matter than bringing in another attacker.
Yes, this is a joke club, can't even back the manager up for more than 1 transfer window. Fuck this shit. We are dropping to bottom half of the table for sure
Always said at the beginning of the season we'd finish bottom half. "We're in the top 6" means nothing when the table is that bunched. We'll do well to get 50-55 pts.
It’s the same fucking cycle over and over. And people think that we need to do it until a manager wins us the title in the first season. So stupid. The players is what’s holding us back performance wise which I think is improving but the board is holding us back from actually accomplishing something.
If Amorim gets sacked without even completing a full season, I hope he calls people out who are ruining the club.
Agreed. I have so many problems with how the board has handled this. They've proven they're incompetent. It goes all the way back to LVG, then Mo, Ole, Ragnick, Ronaldo, and now Amorim. They all had issues with the front office, they all told them what was necessary and they just can't accomplish it.
Amorim even told them up front what to expect from him, how long it would take, and what he needed and they still couldn't deliver. A fucking road map that they crumpled and burned.
And fletcher could be a godsend, but he'll suffer Ole's and Giggs', and Carrick's fate and be left out in the cold before long. We need a genuine hostile takeover.
So now that's 11 managers in 12 years. When are we finally going to learn that this revolving door isn't working for us. Hopefully the next manager gets enough time because at this point this is ridiculous. I thought Ineos were supposed to be better but (sigh).
When are we going to realise we're not the club of old. (Ferguson era) where most care takers, directors an anyone else has moved on. There's not going to be another Ferguson. They can change managers as often as needed and hopefully get medals and trophies on the way. The same as every other big club does now. City are the only ones who have a long term manager and that is only becaue they have a generational talent manager (the same way Ferguson was). What UTD cannot afford to do is keep giving mangers a big pot of money to do wht they want and ultimately under deliver. They've had good players the last 5/6 years. Players Pep would have got the best out of. How could it possibly be that UTD are the only cub where every player they buy is not goo (20+ players) the reality is it can't be.
I agree the revolving door approach isn’t one that’s going work, however re: Amorim specifically, based on his performance last season that was enough to warrant sacking him.
They’re fact that he only won consecutive games once in all of his 14 months is insane. Losses to teams like Grimsby, 10 man Everton - whenever we think we’ve hit rock bottom there’s more to fall.
Home games against Everton, West Ham, Bournemouth, Wolves resulted in just three points…the writing was on the wall for a long time.
We gave the wrong manager more time than he should have been given
The sooner they do the better. Not being nasty or anti United, but it’s a shit show, it’s falling to pieces and this revolving door of managers and the existing talent are doing well to plug leaks as it fails. It’s too public now, all the money is being siphoned off, and once it becomes unprofitable they’ll drop it a lot sooner than any manager, like overnight. Unfortunately, like with many things, it would be best to just let it die, and start again.
The Bournemouth and Aston villa game for me were a testament to the fact that we have improved significantly over the past year. But now all of that goes to the bin.
Additionally now we will have a dilemma about amad and mbeumo. Who do you bench? And also cunha himself isn't a wide player, he likes to cut in. Where do you fit all of these players in a new system? Terrible decisions from a terrible management
The Bournemouth and Aston villa game for me were a testament to the fact that we have i.proved significantly over the past year. But now all of that goes to the bin.
And what were the Everton and West Ham games testament to?
That the players that are currently in the Club aren’t suited for the System the manager uses. And before you start with changing the system. Everyone knows the system he uses and the board still got him and did not give players suited for the system.
99% of managers adapt their systems when they need to.
Even Guardiola does it.
You just can't be a successful manager if you're not flexible in the modern era, at best, you luck out by being at the exact right club at the exact right time.
Fuck all the fans honestly. So undeserved genuinely wanted to see him succeed here.
You expect some miracle to happen within 1 year or so because you’re entitled to returning to the “glory days” when it was essentially a COMPLETELY different club.
This is not the same Manchester United it was during SAF’s tenure.
Honestly I am sick of football precisely because of the lack of patience from these so called fans. We were literally in 6th place WITH injuries and WITH afcon happening.
I genuinely don’t understand what you’re all after??
I'm fed up with it. How do they expect us to do well when they keep getting rid of managers. You can't expect miracles, and it's cliché but it takes time, and apparently, people don't have patience anymore. This isn't a dig at just United either, I've noticed it with other clubs.
Couldn’t agree more. I think we’re having a decent season especially compared to last. Why can’t progress be respected for what it is. We’re not a big club and currently should be very happy with 6th.
I totally agree with you but Amorim didnt get sacked because of results but because of his rant yesterday. He kind off, slightly threw administration under the bus but didn't really say anything that bad...
Fans saying he should have been sacked is like hearing to the worlds smallest violin, just dont care for them.
Fergie arrived 1986 and took him at least 5y to rebuild and given full control of the club at all levels. This is what Amorim was trying to say yesterday with "I am not head coach I am manager" - because THIS is what the club needs. When you have too many bosses taking decisions... nothing changes and no true direction is ever clear.
I am so drained from this situation, my just take a huge leave of absence from football all together.
Yup exactly. People never learn lol. Crazy how much these so called fans want immediate fucking results every time. Ive said this before, ill say it again, until we stick with a system and a manager for at least 3 yewrs, we will not see another premier league trophy. Scouting has been terrible over the last 10 years. We sign 80+ million dollar players every single god damn year and yet aston villa crystal palace sunderland are signing top top talents for less than 20 million or even less. Fucking embarrassing. Fine, we move on. But also replace the fucking scouting department.
I respectfully disagree, even though I really wanted Amorim to succeed. Let’s not forget that in 14 months, the Portuguese coach managed 63 matches with a record that is honestly very poor for a club of this caliber.
That includes 23 defeats, 15 draws, and only 25 wins. This gives him a 38.1% win rate, which is the worst of any Manchester United manager since Sir Alex Ferguson retired, except for Ralf Rangnick’s 37.9% during his interim spell.
Statistically, that is really, really bad. I truly wanted him to be given more time, but I can also understand why the club decided to part ways with him. That said, Ineos should also be sacked.
If he was given a full season last year, we'd have been relegated...
All the top managers alter formation whilst keeping the same principles of play for their system. This guy had a formation fetish. Giving wolves a point, losing at home to 10-man Everton. Why does he get let off from certain fans? Sunderland doing well straight from the championship, palace etc and they spend nothing compared to us. He has been given support and sure not all transfers are perfect but his stubbornness has cost him here
Arsenal keep Arteta for 6 years and somehow United can’t even back their manager for 2 full seasons. Well didn’t sir Jim said he will give Amorim 3 seasons? What a fucking lie
For the first since SAF I am seeing around 70% of comments supporting thr Outgoing manager and mostly blaming the board and ownership. Shows how much of a shitshow Ruben Amorim had to tolerate.
It's funny if there was ever a time to sack Amorim it was at the end of last season. This season we've shown visible improvements. All the players were still very much behind him. Investing in midfield and maybe defence was the next step and he's been sacked. This isn't necessarily a defence for Amorim but it's shambolic it's led to this. I genuinely have 0 hopes for us going forward. Nil.
Probably DOF ego? Amorim did threatened to quit in the summer and now in this window Amorim gets no support or new player maybe they just got fed up with him.
Anyway, I guess SAF is right that it will take another 10 years
Not even sir Alex survives if it was now, 6 years it took for him to win the league back then, basically Arteta is the only coach given such luxury time frame these days.
The cycle reset we will be back here is the near future. Even when there are footballing people in the correct position we are still bad at doing footballing things.
Embarrassing club can’t wait to sack the next one in 2 years. Ineos get another free ticket. Were a mess from top to bottom and were not coming back any time soon
Amorim got half a season with no pre-season and forced to come here on an ultimatum. He then goes into a new season and only gets given half of it until January before being sacked after losing Bruno to injury and his entire right flank to AFCON.
What the fuck? How do you sack a manager you planned to give 3 years of support after only two halfs of a season?
Cannot agree more, and can't help but feel we (the fanbase) are so short-sighted and if no immediate results then the blame is on the manager, who is not even a manager if the sporting director is overstepping and advising on his role .. but yeah hierarchy nailed it once more and the vicious cycle continues.
Apparently, this had to be another write-off season and we couldn't wait till summer, that's the status, mentality and identity of MUTD nowadays. Sadly.
Neville, scholes and Butt get what they wanted, causing more chaos at the club they claim to love. They need to keep quiet and stop trying to keep themselves relevant, the old days are long gone. Let the new manager just do his job.
Those clowns don't need the money. They should respect the life Man United has given them and let the future manager do what needs to be done without constant criticism.
Neville, scholes and Butt get what they wanted, causing more chaos at the club they claim to love.
And they are only doing just to make sure no one new ever comes and build something that would surpass what they have achieved for the club so that they can make sure their club legend status/achievements stay untouched until they eventually pass away in about 30+ years time.
Wish scholes, Neville and butt would join in just to see how they'd do. At least if they fail they would shut up a bit more when the next guy gets a chance.
This epitomises the rot at Man Utd. This guy has been hanging around, interfering, positioning ever since the days he was a bit part player. To call him a yes man is a disservice to yes men.
I dont think they will put all hopes on Fletch... buuut... we also know if he wins 4 games he will be new hero... i think they might like him as he plays 4 2 3 1
Shame all that effort put in for a new formation and style of play will go to waste now. Back to a back 4 and in another 2 year time we'll be sacking the next manager. I genuinely feel that the club is doomed forever.
Bruno should leave in January. Better than to watch this ship sinking to 14th place again like previous season. They really think this squad has the ability to be in top 4?
It's genuinely hard to see how this appointment breaks the cycle of short-term thinking. You have to feel for players like Bruno who committed to a project that seems to be in constant flux. This feels like another stopgap that just reinforces the club's lack of a coherent plan.
What has been the biggest disappointment over the these years of us being shite is how the likes of Scholes, Neville and Keane, players I used to adore, have played a part in the circus that makes life difficult for a Man Utd manager.
They talk about the United way, is it the United way for ex-players to whore themselves to the media questioning every little thing they perceive the current United team is doing wrong.
Surely the decision makers at Utd are tremendously embarrassed at themselves. Employ a competent Sporting Director in Ashworth then reject his expert advice, prevent him from doing his job, and sack him. Extend ETH then bin him. Sign Amorim midseason with all the question marks, then bin the entire project after two windows. Who in their right minds runs an organization like this??! Surely Omar Barrada’s judgment and job comes into question as he’s been at the centre of two of these massive debacles?
The Nice fans warned that INEOS was bad news and it’s been one debacle to another since they came in. Only good they’ve done is revamp the training ground. And please don’t get me started on their fantasy stadium. There might be no way back for Utd with the Glazers and INEOS.
This has to be the shocking axe for any United manager. It went under the hood and blew up in few hours. The club cannot manage anything properly let alone a manager lol. We are going to be a laughing stock again this season.
The problem I find now is that we have overbought too many #10’s to fit the 3-4-3 philosophy, it will be difficult to accommodate a number of players in the attacking roles and the CB position of the new manager, whomever that is, reverts back to a flat back four (as expected) and classic wing play.
We have to buy a left winger now.. unfortunately both garnacho and rashford is gone can't implement 4-3-3. Amad and mbeumo's can play RW..now problem is for cunha and casemiro
Not even 1 full season in, owners sack the manager.
You can see the style of play from the back, United was playing confidently at the back, a bit unlucky with the finishing but you can see the build up play
More worrying than the paper-thin depth of the squad / bench and how our team is performing, more worrying than the results Amorin brought so far, is the managing of the club performed under this hierarchy. I am looking forward to be shocked by the next lad that the hierarchy will bring, and have the same 'sacking' conversatation around December 2026 ..
Wow. I said in the post-match thread his position would become increasingly untenable by the conclusion of the arsenal/city games, but dang. He must really have struck a nerve with his comments yesterday.
Not an ideal time for someone else to come in, when we have next to no players available and really tough games coming up...
This is a fucking joke. The way the board have been treating him is awful and I really wish him the best. You can see that he cared and wanted to stay here, when he arrived this club was broken and somehow he managed to show sparks hope, he arrived mid fucking season and still managed to get us to the Europe league final. As was aware of the situation and said it would be bad, and it was, but later he said, "The good days are coming," and in my opinion there has been signs of improvement. Dont get me wrong, he had some problems but when you give a man just 14 fucking months you cant expect him to do wonders and I think what he did was amazing. We said we would give him time and that we support him, so why the fuck did we sack him and because of a fucking interview. The board couldn't let the truth about how things truly work so they sack him. The line "i came here to be the manager, not the head coach" is absolutely right and the fact that the board didn't trust him is a repeating problem and needs to be changed. The man really tried and cared to the fact he couldn't sleep at night so at least give him a proper goodbye. Hope the next manager would get the time and the support he should get. Thank you Ruben, good luck in your next destination. We really missed on this one and I still back him.
Fine, just keep calm until the end of the season when LOADS of good managers will be available. And for Gods sake, don’t give it to the interim again, no matter how well they do in the meantime.
Xavi would be a great option but it will turn out to be another Amorim story with the way he also sticks to a philosophy and demands more from the academy
now watch darren fletcher not lose any games while being on the bench and while united is searching for a catastrophic manager for example f****** southgate. The same happened with carrick, with van nistelrooy. I hope they actually bring carrick as a manager and roy keane as some kind of figure at the club. To me, that would be rational. Fletcher can also stay, maybe some assistant or something.
Let's give him a fair chance, sure, but if he's here for the rest of the season, he better be damn good to get the actual job.
We need an experienced, elite manager who does not need a complete overhaul of the entire squad to get results. We do not need another manager with training wheels like Ole.
They’ll leave him to the summer, new manager comes in with a shorter time period to work with the squad because of the World Cup; new manager gets a grace period to build up the squad he wants (Which puts us in for another miserable season next season); performance declines; he gets the sack eventually; repeat the cycle.
Or else Ole 2.0 and Fletch is given the managerial role due to a string of good results
Thats both his boys starting against Burnley then 😂
Lmaooo my thought too but i guess he would avoid that considering our thoughts
Doubt it bruno and mount are apparently back for burnley
I have a strong feeling that Mainoo will also be available.
And Bruno will be off in the summer. Will be surprised if he he does take the Saudi money and exit this circus. 🎪 🤡
Agreed. Would have been really upset if he left last summer. I’ll be sad but don’t blame him in the slightest if he leaves this summer
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Would be amazing if they did and they smashed it
Bruno stayed back for this shit. Joke house of a club. Cycle continues. No one is going to break or reinvent the wheel. No one.
If I’m Bruno I’m leaving by the end of the season. Maybe win a cup with Bayern or something before fucking off to the sunset.
Then all the fan boys will crucify the next talent we have
I hope he goes. The club does not deserve him
Only player that's actually made me think he should go for HIS sake. Yeah he's all over the place sometimes, but he's the only one in the last 10 years that will have a spot in my heart
He really deserves more, I hope he leave all these shit shows behind and win some real trophies
Yeah. Let’s just watch United further descent down into obscurity. It’s inevitable now.
If I’m Bruno I’m leaving in January. We aren’t bringing in anyone new to help the struggling squad under Fletcher, so it isn’t like we’ll be getting any better as he hoped. If he stays, he’d just be wasting a season under the purgatory that is an interim manager season.
If im bruno im leaving next week
Shit show. I would have understood in the summer if we didn't get Europe but with half the team missing and sitting in 6th. Players were all still onboard clearly, no telling when effect this will have on morale.
I have a massive finance exam tomorrow and this has sent me into a spin.
Need to detach from the club for a bit.
Your future is more important. The back-and-forth about the club will still be here when your exam is over. You won’t miss much, don’t worry. Focus on your exam.
Facts. Disconnecting from here for a few days. Thank you.
I think it was more of disagreement between the hierarchy and Amorim instead of football reasons. Amorim wanted more control of the club’s direction (transfers) and the directors were not ready for that.
Yeah he was also hurt/annoyed by the club essentially saying they had 65 million for Semenyo and then saying they can't target a midfielder using those funds instead since he was set to go to City. I get the frustration on that end since midfield was a more pressing matter than bringing in another attacker.
It’s too late then. The clubs operating costs can’t afford to miss Europe another year
Yes, this is a joke club, can't even back the manager up for more than 1 transfer window. Fuck this shit. We are dropping to bottom half of the table for sure
My thoughts exactly
Always said at the beginning of the season we'd finish bottom half. "We're in the top 6" means nothing when the table is that bunched. We'll do well to get 50-55 pts.
We became spursy in disguise..and now we have to watch "Fletcher ball" for the rest of the season
It’s the same fucking cycle over and over. And people think that we need to do it until a manager wins us the title in the first season. So stupid. The players is what’s holding us back performance wise which I think is improving but the board is holding us back from actually accomplishing something. If Amorim gets sacked without even completing a full season, I hope he calls people out who are ruining the club.
Club is a joke. Sacking him because of results fine, sacking him because he dare call out your own incompetence embarrassing
Agreed. I have so many problems with how the board has handled this. They've proven they're incompetent. It goes all the way back to LVG, then Mo, Ole, Ragnick, Ronaldo, and now Amorim. They all had issues with the front office, they all told them what was necessary and they just can't accomplish it.
Amorim even told them up front what to expect from him, how long it would take, and what he needed and they still couldn't deliver. A fucking road map that they crumpled and burned.
And fletcher could be a godsend, but he'll suffer Ole's and Giggs', and Carrick's fate and be left out in the cold before long. We need a genuine hostile takeover.
Yup, spineless
Chelsea and Man U board are in a “who can be the worst race”
Had an awful season a while ago? Check
The manager seems to be turning things around only to be sacked? Check out
A board with a giant ego who only want yes men? Check
And Thomas Frank & Arne Slot will be next lol, don’t know what’s in the air at the moment
The players don't like playing in the cold weather
So now that's 11 managers in 12 years. When are we finally going to learn that this revolving door isn't working for us. Hopefully the next manager gets enough time because at this point this is ridiculous. I thought Ineos were supposed to be better but (sigh).
Wilcox becomes manager next summer. Does it his own way and sacks himself one year in
or maybe Wilcox get the Glasers as the manager and he can sack them and finally we be free of those vampires
If Amorim, a proven winning manager, didn't get time or backing, even playing a lot of youth and academy players, no one else will lol
Not even pepe could save this club
You really counting interims as a manager?
I mean it does feel like our actual managers only last a bit longer than the interims anyway tbf
When are we going to realise we're not the club of old. (Ferguson era) where most care takers, directors an anyone else has moved on. There's not going to be another Ferguson. They can change managers as often as needed and hopefully get medals and trophies on the way. The same as every other big club does now. City are the only ones who have a long term manager and that is only becaue they have a generational talent manager (the same way Ferguson was). What UTD cannot afford to do is keep giving mangers a big pot of money to do wht they want and ultimately under deliver. They've had good players the last 5/6 years. Players Pep would have got the best out of. How could it possibly be that UTD are the only cub where every player they buy is not goo (20+ players) the reality is it can't be.
I agree the revolving door approach isn’t one that’s going work, however re: Amorim specifically, based on his performance last season that was enough to warrant sacking him.
They’re fact that he only won consecutive games once in all of his 14 months is insane. Losses to teams like Grimsby, 10 man Everton - whenever we think we’ve hit rock bottom there’s more to fall.
Home games against Everton, West Ham, Bournemouth, Wolves resulted in just three points…the writing was on the wall for a long time.
We gave the wrong manager more time than he should have been given
INEOS are clueless. Just look at Nice. The next manager will last 12- 18 months
The club is going to drop like a fkn brick, no matter who comes in it will be the same shit
That's what I've always said. New manager, new headlines. Just let a coach stick through the rough patch. Eventually the chorus will die down.
I think we’ve said that since ole. Anyway hope we don’t get relegated lol
The sooner they do the better. Not being nasty or anti United, but it’s a shit show, it’s falling to pieces and this revolving door of managers and the existing talent are doing well to plug leaks as it fails. It’s too public now, all the money is being siphoned off, and once it becomes unprofitable they’ll drop it a lot sooner than any manager, like overnight. Unfortunately, like with many things, it would be best to just let it die, and start again.
Jack captain, Tyler vice captain against Burnley 🙈
They’ll be sharing the penalties, free kicks, corners, throw-ins, goal kicks and drop balls evenly as brothers do
nah.. Darren Fletcher player-manager-captain. One of the other Fletcher will be vice and the other will be the other leader on the pitch
There should be a protest for this shithousery
The Bournemouth and Aston villa game for me were a testament to the fact that we have improved significantly over the past year. But now all of that goes to the bin.
Additionally now we will have a dilemma about amad and mbeumo. Who do you bench? And also cunha himself isn't a wide player, he likes to cut in. Where do you fit all of these players in a new system? Terrible decisions from a terrible management
And what were the Everton and West Ham games testament to?
That the players that are currently in the Club aren’t suited for the System the manager uses. And before you start with changing the system. Everyone knows the system he uses and the board still got him and did not give players suited for the system.
99% of managers adapt their systems when they need to.
Even Guardiola does it.
You just can't be a successful manager if you're not flexible in the modern era, at best, you luck out by being at the exact right club at the exact right time.
3 years did you say, Mr Ineos?
What a clown 🫠
Stick to bike riding mate, you don't know what you're doing.....
The cycling team has been a disaster since Ineos took over too.
So has the f1 team
David brailsford was the guy that did all the stuff with the cycling, he was taken off football related duties a while back.
"All the stuff" = pump them full of drugs (allegedly!!)
Jokes on you if you actually believed a word that came out of his mouth.
Fuck all the fans honestly. So undeserved genuinely wanted to see him succeed here.
You expect some miracle to happen within 1 year or so because you’re entitled to returning to the “glory days” when it was essentially a COMPLETELY different club.
This is not the same Manchester United it was during SAF’s tenure.
Honestly I am sick of football precisely because of the lack of patience from these so called fans. We were literally in 6th place WITH injuries and WITH afcon happening.
I genuinely don’t understand what you’re all after??
Mate I am so gutted. We were just starting to see patterns of play, and an identity forming. Guy just needed backing. Right back to square one.
Yeah. I’d figure another year or two the team will be solid. They literally throw out the cook while the cook is just chopping up ingredients smh
They haven't got the money to back him. I bet they sacked him just so they could get away with not buying anyone in the January window.
The payout he would get is surely not small also...
Smaller than a decent centre mid.
I'm fed up with it. How do they expect us to do well when they keep getting rid of managers. You can't expect miracles, and it's cliché but it takes time, and apparently, people don't have patience anymore. This isn't a dig at just United either, I've noticed it with other clubs.
“But we are Manchester United” /s
Couldn’t agree more. I think we’re having a decent season especially compared to last. Why can’t progress be respected for what it is. We’re not a big club and currently should be very happy with 6th.
So fed up of all this.
Ive barely seen any pressure from the fans. Looks to me like powertripping higher-ups
I totally agree with you but Amorim didnt get sacked because of results but because of his rant yesterday. He kind off, slightly threw administration under the bus but didn't really say anything that bad...
Fans saying he should have been sacked is like hearing to the worlds smallest violin, just dont care for them.
Fergie arrived 1986 and took him at least 5y to rebuild and given full control of the club at all levels. This is what Amorim was trying to say yesterday with "I am not head coach I am manager" - because THIS is what the club needs. When you have too many bosses taking decisions... nothing changes and no true direction is ever clear.
I am so drained from this situation, my just take a huge leave of absence from football all together.
It's sad, was enjoying watch us play despite the results we were just a few signings away from really competing with Arsenal/City.
Instead we will remain in the 3-6 table fight for another cycle instead of finishing the open heart surgery we started.
Yup exactly. People never learn lol. Crazy how much these so called fans want immediate fucking results every time. Ive said this before, ill say it again, until we stick with a system and a manager for at least 3 yewrs, we will not see another premier league trophy. Scouting has been terrible over the last 10 years. We sign 80+ million dollar players every single god damn year and yet aston villa crystal palace sunderland are signing top top talents for less than 20 million or even less. Fucking embarrassing. Fine, we move on. But also replace the fucking scouting department.
I respectfully disagree, even though I really wanted Amorim to succeed. Let’s not forget that in 14 months, the Portuguese coach managed 63 matches with a record that is honestly very poor for a club of this caliber. That includes 23 defeats, 15 draws, and only 25 wins. This gives him a 38.1% win rate, which is the worst of any Manchester United manager since Sir Alex Ferguson retired, except for Ralf Rangnick’s 37.9% during his interim spell.
Statistically, that is really, really bad. I truly wanted him to be given more time, but I can also understand why the club decided to part ways with him. That said, Ineos should also be sacked.
If he was given a full season last year, we'd have been relegated... All the top managers alter formation whilst keeping the same principles of play for their system. This guy had a formation fetish. Giving wolves a point, losing at home to 10-man Everton. Why does he get let off from certain fans? Sunderland doing well straight from the championship, palace etc and they spend nothing compared to us. He has been given support and sure not all transfers are perfect but his stubbornness has cost him here
FUCKING JOKE OF A CLUB
I don't know, Amorim didn't have results to back him but at least seemed he had some plan, sacking him we are back to start line.
Arsenal keep Arteta for 6 years and somehow United can’t even back their manager for 2 full seasons. Well didn’t sir Jim said he will give Amorim 3 seasons? What a fucking lie
Backed every manager until the end, getting sick of this shit.
Some of us fans are behaving more professionally than the decision makers at this club.
It's pathetic.
For the first since SAF I am seeing around 70% of comments supporting thr Outgoing manager and mostly blaming the board and ownership. Shows how much of a shitshow Ruben Amorim had to tolerate.
This club is finished
Finally watched this team play good, Amorim didn't deserve this
meanwhile arsenal sticked to the Arteta plan for how many years? this club is a fucking joke
Arteta doesn't survive our club. I'm not sure if even Pep will be able to. We're doomed.
It’s crazy to think we bought all attackers and 0 cdm and expect a strong defence. Who’s gonna come manage this shit show now lol
It's funny if there was ever a time to sack Amorim it was at the end of last season. This season we've shown visible improvements. All the players were still very much behind him. Investing in midfield and maybe defence was the next step and he's been sacked. This isn't necessarily a defence for Amorim but it's shambolic it's led to this. I genuinely have 0 hopes for us going forward. Nil.
Probably DOF ego? Amorim did threatened to quit in the summer and now in this window Amorim gets no support or new player maybe they just got fed up with him.
Anyway, I guess SAF is right that it will take another 10 years
Not even sir Alex survives if it was now, 6 years it took for him to win the league back then, basically Arteta is the only coach given such luxury time frame these days.
The cycle reset we will be back here is the near future. Even when there are footballing people in the correct position we are still bad at doing footballing things.
Spending 20m to sack Amorim rather than buying neves or gallagher for the same price. Welcome to my club!
Embarrassing club can’t wait to sack the next one in 2 years. Ineos get another free ticket. Were a mess from top to bottom and were not coming back any time soon
Didnt even give him 18 months to build his team... this club is never coming back to the top ever again...we should just stop supporting atp
I have lost all my hope,don't know what will happen
I cannot believe this. Joke of a club
Amorim got half a season with no pre-season and forced to come here on an ultimatum. He then goes into a new season and only gets given half of it until January before being sacked after losing Bruno to injury and his entire right flank to AFCON.
What the fuck? How do you sack a manager you planned to give 3 years of support after only two halfs of a season?
Cannot agree more, and can't help but feel we (the fanbase) are so short-sighted and if no immediate results then the blame is on the manager, who is not even a manager if the sporting director is overstepping and advising on his role .. but yeah hierarchy nailed it once more and the vicious cycle continues.
Apparently, this had to be another write-off season and we couldn't wait till summer, that's the status, mentality and identity of MUTD nowadays. Sadly.
Neville, scholes and Butt get what they wanted, causing more chaos at the club they claim to love. They need to keep quiet and stop trying to keep themselves relevant, the old days are long gone. Let the new manager just do his job.
Yeah but that’s not gonna happen. No money in it. Ah well here we go again buckle up!!
Those clowns don't need the money. They should respect the life Man United has given them and let the future manager do what needs to be done without constant criticism.
And they are only doing just to make sure no one new ever comes and build something that would surpass what they have achieved for the club so that they can make sure their club legend status/achievements stay untouched until they eventually pass away in about 30+ years time.
They are doing it for the likes. The lads are absolutely fishing for hits on YouTube etc
oh boy we are gonna see a lot of Fletcher from now on
Fletcher Snr ... Fletcher J and Fletcher T
Lets not forget what management did when speculations about new shiny players and new shiny manager start
Goodluck to Fletcher and certainly goodluck to the next coach who walks in this shitshow
The twins playing cm against Burnley
The nepotism is gonna go crazy when both Jack and Tyler start and we win 5-0
INEOS done worse in 2/3 yrs than the Glazers in 2 decades.. what a shit show
Jim Radcliffe is a dirty scumbag. He's just another glazer ruining the club.
https://preview.redd.it/x63u4cflmibg1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c0756b5540522141495c3583f46c628aa78631de
This will be the manager of Manchester United FC, one of the greatest clubs in England and the world
Ole at least had the experience of managing Cardiff and molde, RVN had the experience of managing PSV
I don't wanna disrespect Fletcher as he's a club icon but this will be his first ever job as a full time manager
He will be scrutinized to the highest level if we don't win games (which we won't)
Club Icon??? 🤣🤣🤣
Came via academy, 300+ appearances for the club, spent around 12 years at the club
I didn't call him a "legend" ? Did I ? But he was definitely a good player ?
Wish scholes, Neville and butt would join in just to see how they'd do. At least if they fail they would shut up a bit more when the next guy gets a chance.
Ngl they drop Ruben I’m gone too.
He even got Mount performing
Get Carrick in.
This epitomises the rot at Man Utd. This guy has been hanging around, interfering, positioning ever since the days he was a bit part player. To call him a yes man is a disservice to yes men.
I am gutted
Just bring back Ole and Carrick till end of season
People need to be protesting how poorly ineos and the glazers are managing this club.
Bring Ole back
Couldn't we have gotten Ruud back again? Or even Ole. Fletcher has never coached a first team before.
Well i think interim means before we find replacement
It was reported we won't get someone till Summer. We need a decent caretaker manager for that period.
I dont think they will put all hopes on Fletch... buuut... we also know if he wins 4 games he will be new hero... i think they might like him as he plays 4 2 3 1
Can you link the direct quote/report that says we wont get someone till the summer
Should we get Ruud in so that he can help Sesko?
Either Ole or Ruud can help. The club is actually in a decent position too and Ruud was really good with getting Casemiro playing well again.
Fletcher as Manager as his boys in 4-3-3.
Fletcher twins to start 🤣
He's starting at one of the worst times possible there are some horrible games coming up.
Oh nah the ole script all over again
So how long until the fan base will turn on him lol
Shame all that effort put in for a new formation and style of play will go to waste now. Back to a back 4 and in another 2 year time we'll be sacking the next manager. I genuinely feel that the club is doomed forever.
Wasnt this supposed to be a rebuild and they gave him 2 halfs of 2 season ahahhahahhaa
Bruno should leave in January. Better than to watch this ship sinking to 14th place again like previous season. They really think this squad has the ability to be in top 4?
It's genuinely hard to see how this appointment breaks the cycle of short-term thinking. You have to feel for players like Bruno who committed to a project that seems to be in constant flux. This feels like another stopgap that just reinforces the club's lack of a coherent plan.
What. The. Absolute. Fuck. Is going on????
Utd are officially the laughing stock.
Alot of clubs seem to be a laughing stock then as sacking managers is BAU.
Hope the incompetent people in charge also go out along with Amorim like Southampton legend Wilcocks.
What has been the biggest disappointment over the these years of us being shite is how the likes of Scholes, Neville and Keane, players I used to adore, have played a part in the circus that makes life difficult for a Man Utd manager.
They talk about the United way, is it the United way for ex-players to whore themselves to the media questioning every little thing they perceive the current United team is doing wrong.
Surely the decision makers at Utd are tremendously embarrassed at themselves. Employ a competent Sporting Director in Ashworth then reject his expert advice, prevent him from doing his job, and sack him. Extend ETH then bin him. Sign Amorim midseason with all the question marks, then bin the entire project after two windows. Who in their right minds runs an organization like this??! Surely Omar Barrada’s judgment and job comes into question as he’s been at the centre of two of these massive debacles?
The Nice fans warned that INEOS was bad news and it’s been one debacle to another since they came in. Only good they’ve done is revamp the training ground. And please don’t get me started on their fantasy stadium. There might be no way back for Utd with the Glazers and INEOS.
Same old United, blame and sack the manager over and over again…
This has to be the shocking axe for any United manager. It went under the hood and blew up in few hours. The club cannot manage anything properly let alone a manager lol. We are going to be a laughing stock again this season.
He has two sons in the team how the f**k is that right?????!
He coaches the youth squad... until someone comes in...he has to be the one taking over
Yeah this is really dodgy IMO.
Scholes, Neville and even Carragher all know how to fix the club with their vast experience at this level, they should get a shot
The problem I find now is that we have overbought too many #10’s to fit the 3-4-3 philosophy, it will be difficult to accommodate a number of players in the attacking roles and the CB position of the new manager, whomever that is, reverts back to a flat back four (as expected) and classic wing play.
Cunha and Mbeumo and Sesko works on a 4-3-3,Idk how we are gonna use Amad tho,
The only positive I can see is we have depth now. Just light on a left winger.
Where does Bruno fit in?
Nah.
Mbuemo can play 10, RW or even as a forward.
Amad can play either wing or as 10.
Bruno can play 10 or deeper if needs be.
Cunha can play 10, as a forward and even LW.
Mount can play pretty much anywhere.
Plenty of different options and chances to mix things up.
Do we have anyone who can cross the fucking ball?
I haven’t seen that happen for some time.
We have to buy a left winger now.. unfortunately both garnacho and rashford is gone can't implement 4-3-3. Amad and mbeumo's can play RW..now problem is for cunha and casemiro
Holy shit! I just logged in this morning and this is how I found out. Holy shit!
Not even 1 full season in, owners sack the manager.
You can see the style of play from the back, United was playing confidently at the back, a bit unlucky with the finishing but you can see the build up play
We are a joke.
Welp let’s see what this 433 we all cried about is going to look like…
More worrying than the paper-thin depth of the squad / bench and how our team is performing, more worrying than the results Amorin brought so far, is the managing of the club performed under this hierarchy. I am looking forward to be shocked by the next lad that the hierarchy will bring, and have the same 'sacking' conversatation around December 2026 ..
Wow. I said in the post-match thread his position would become increasingly untenable by the conclusion of the arsenal/city games, but dang. He must really have struck a nerve with his comments yesterday.
Not an ideal time for someone else to come in, when we have next to no players available and really tough games coming up...
My guess is that he'll only be there for few games until they appoint an interim manager until end of season
Sack him now
Too early?
Im disappointed to see Amorim leave. I hope it works out for the team.
This is a fucking joke. The way the board have been treating him is awful and I really wish him the best. You can see that he cared and wanted to stay here, when he arrived this club was broken and somehow he managed to show sparks hope, he arrived mid fucking season and still managed to get us to the Europe league final. As was aware of the situation and said it would be bad, and it was, but later he said, "The good days are coming," and in my opinion there has been signs of improvement. Dont get me wrong, he had some problems but when you give a man just 14 fucking months you cant expect him to do wonders and I think what he did was amazing. We said we would give him time and that we support him, so why the fuck did we sack him and because of a fucking interview. The board couldn't let the truth about how things truly work so they sack him. The line "i came here to be the manager, not the head coach" is absolutely right and the fact that the board didn't trust him is a repeating problem and needs to be changed. The man really tried and cared to the fact he couldn't sleep at night so at least give him a proper goodbye. Hope the next manager would get the time and the support he should get. Thank you Ruben, good luck in your next destination. We really missed on this one and I still back him.
Fletcher at the wheel. FFS!
his boys are getting game time i guess
Fine, just keep calm until the end of the season when LOADS of good managers will be available. And for Gods sake, don’t give it to the interim again, no matter how well they do in the meantime.
Who would want this absolute shambles of a club...
The stadium is falling apart and the owners are absolutely sucking the culture out
Maybe most rival fans are laughing but I can't.
It's just a shit show..
People talking about Xavi... It's a suicide job unfortunately
Xavi would be a great option but it will turn out to be another Amorim story with the way he also sticks to a philosophy and demands more from the academy
Also the squad isn't built for Xavi ball..
But I would welcome him to England
But on the flip side RVP might be a pun
now watch darren fletcher not lose any games while being on the bench and while united is searching for a catastrophic manager for example f****** southgate. The same happened with carrick, with van nistelrooy. I hope they actually bring carrick as a manager and roy keane as some kind of figure at the club. To me, that would be rational. Fletcher can also stay, maybe some assistant or something.
Assigning dad fletcher is Nepotism. 😂
Lmao another ex player getting the reigns.
At this rate we're going to run out of ex players to come in as interim managers.
Gary Neville is the chosen one.
And we back to square one again guy, happy now? Who gonna take this seat now? how about Scholes, that bozo has a big mouth, let see what he can do
Why sacking him now, shit.
I hope you are happy now.. Back to nowhere.. This fucking club..
Atleast we will get a run of good games now that all the players will want to prove themselves to the new manager.
Is he a decent manager?
Let's give him a fair chance, sure, but if he's here for the rest of the season, he better be damn good to get the actual job.
We need an experienced, elite manager who does not need a complete overhaul of the entire squad to get results. We do not need another manager with training wheels like Ole.
Rough time to take over If he can get the spirits up then the season is still alive for us
Ughhhh
Bring back Ole!
Bring on Xavi Hernandez and give him time!!
shambles
Ik he played for rivals but really like what fabregas has done at como and his adaptability in game and between games
Kobbie Mainoo and his brother.
Get Keane in, if he’s as passionate as he talks about the club then show everyone how it’s done
Get both of his lads on the pitch in midfield, a masterclass incoming from the Fletchers.
2026 is gonna be a long year guys
I wonder which manager is willing to take over this mess again? It just ruin your reputation.
Fuck.
They’ll leave him to the summer, new manager comes in with a shorter time period to work with the squad because of the World Cup; new manager gets a grace period to build up the squad he wants (Which puts us in for another miserable season next season); performance declines; he gets the sack eventually; repeat the cycle.
Or else Ole 2.0 and Fletch is given the managerial role due to a string of good results
Now more younger players will get the chance to prove themselves! Let's go Fletch! ❤️🤍
Just the Burnley game is fine, then onto OGS till the summer. Doubt they're getting a perma manager in at this point