Might be a hot take considering how loved Fury Road is, but I actually think Furiosa was noticeably better. Dementus I think was a better main villain than Immortan Joe, in my opinion. Funny enough though, I thought Immortan Joe was also actually better in Furiosa, more calculating and less of a brute.

I ended up really liking Scrotus too. He was a great addition, and easily my favorite of the three sons. Dementus biker horde was just insanely cool, and getting a real look at Gastown and the Bullet Farm up close was amazing.

  • I do not agree, but holy shit are we spoiled with both.

    I love Charlize performance too much.

    This and the film and story was perfect. Charlize embody the physicality of the role more than Anya.

    Furiousa had a few cgi scenes that didn't work. Still the emotional core was there.

    With that I agree. I loved the desolation and brutality in Dementus' "retribution" against Furiosa and Jack. That he has to hurt and destroy to feel any sort of fulfillment or "comfort", so to speak.

  • I respect your take, but for me the relentless pace and the concise but complete world building of Fury Road takes the cake. Furiosa does feel like a prequel with a pretty detailed back story, whereas I feel the hallmark of Mad Max films is that the world of the story is given to us without a lot of explanation. There’s an art to showing without telling, and I think Fury Road does that better than Furiosa. 

    Well said. Also Fury Road is a different style of story management, you get bits along the way whereas Furiosa is chronological.

    Yes, buuuuut....

    Fury road was simply road warrior, even down to the "tanker with a surprise load". (Rely on the tried and true, like Hollywood likes to do)

    I see the movies as:

    MM: character study; revenge tale

    RW: escape with the goods tale

    BTD: betrayal/understanding tale

    FR: escape with the goods tale

    F;AMMS: character study; survival, revenge, love and possible upwards mobility tale

  • Furiosa is excellent, but I don’t think it quite reaches the heights of Fury Road. All the movies in the series are so damn good though. It’s like trying to pick which one of your kids is your favorite

    Respect the opinion

  • Fury Road is kind of the perfect cult album with its anthology-worthy tracks. Furiosa is the concept album that pushes the boundaries of mythological themes, seeming like a culmination of the themes from the previous films... A perfect duo. But I have a slight preference for Furiosa.

  • This is indeed a hot take.

    I figured as much lol

  • I've just started thinking of them as one epic Fury Road saga, part one and two. We're so lucky man.

    It’s not a part one and part two though. It’s fury road and a prequel for the female protagonist since the male already had three from the establishing films. First mad max is the best.

  • I agree. Didn’t realize I was in the minority. It seems to go much deeper into the lore.

    Yeah, I loved getting a peek inside Gastown and the Bullet Farm. Scrotus was great. I loved Dementus and Praetorian Jack. Furiosa as a film blew me away.

  • Both are excellent but Fury Road is a masterpiece. Legitimately a contender for best movie of all time.

    Furiosa is just great but it's not an all time great.

    Fury Road is on my Mount Rushmore.

    It's probably my all time favorite, depending on my mood, but it's a top 5 no matter what.

  • Both films are great and a showcase of George Miller's masterful filmmaking skills. Fury Road is a 10/10 for me. Furiosa a 9/10.

  • Furiosa feels like a more conventional movie for me. Everything you list: characters that talk more and seem more fleshed out, while scenes of worldbuilding in the other locations, etc…

    Fury Road is MASSIVELY “show, don’t tell”, to a level that you don’t often get in film. 9/10 times, information that any other movie would convey through dialogue between characters gets conveyed through actions, costumes, set dressing… Hence why in Furiosa, even returning characters like Joe, the People Eater and Furiosa herself get more time relating to other characters through dialogue. You also basically never see a location that isn’t directly related to the chase: you jump to Joe’s convoy here and there, but you never see the Bullet Farm or Gastown up close and their leaders only show up in scenes with Joe after Max and Furiosa spot them.

    I think these movies are a magical 1-2 punch, because Fury Road did the thing that so many excellent first movies do (A New Hope, Pirates of the Caribbean, even John Wick) and made a world that felt so lived in that we were all desperately asking for more. Then Furiosa spent more time slowly exploring the “more”. 

    As such I prefer Fury Road and see Furiosa’s strength as being a supplementary movie that elevates FR’s greatness, but doesn’t quite hit the same level.

    Yeah this is such a great description. Furiosa is awesome but it's expanding on the groundwork laid by Fury Road.

  • While I love Furiosa, no way bro. Fury Road was one of if not the best action movie I’ve ever seen.

  • No way . That Doof warrior guitarist scene was peak cinema . Nothing can BEAT IT

    ill never forget that moment he first appeared

    I thought I was watching some mid, soulless distant remake of an 80’s movie I only semi-remembered, and was kind of watching it over my phone in my living room.

    Then that scene happened and it was so balls to the walls absurd yet cool that it grabbed me and I was hooked for the rest of the movie.

    i was hooked and disturbed early on. first whn max eats the lizard. second whn max is pulled back into the citadel with that latex stretched across his face, and last and most jarring....the first time i saw the immortan. holy fuck.

    hell, my ex wife [wife at the time] stood up right after that and walked out. no b.s 😆

    ...."and I never saw her again"

    I mean it was cool but does not make the entire movie better

    But it won several oscars and revived the franchise after 40 years which lead to furiosa

    fuck the Oscars, I don't respect nor think there legitimate. You know how many golden movies they've passed up and how many allegations they've had for rigging.

    They were right on Fury Road tho. The editing was absolutely insane.

    I thought it made the movie a joke.

  • I really like Furiosa but the whole thing seemed extremely expository. It felt like a slight over explanation of things we saw in Fury Road which was pretty much the opposite. I think Fury Road is the superior film by quite a bit. Just my opinion.

  • I know we are in the minority, but I agree with you. Or at least I can say "I liked Furiosa better, though I did love both."

  • Different sides of the same coin. I think Furiosa told a more compelling narrative, but Fury Road was such a masterclass of pure craft.

    Which of course is not to say that Furiosa didn't have excellent craft or that Fury Road didn't have a compelling story.

  • I love both movies to death but I like Furiosa better as well. Its just overall more interesting to me. I like having both villains in the same movie too and watching their conflict develop.

  • i agree with you. both are among my top 10 favorite movies, but Furiosa tells the legends of Furiosa and Dementus in such a fantastical way, adding just so much lore to the wasteland.

    we already know the legend of Max, a man cursed to wander, running from ghosts, seeing them in the people he reluctantly helps along the way.

    now we've got the myth of Furiosa, the woman whose home was lost to her, who had to establish herself among warlords, who avenged her mother, redeemed herself, and planted the peach seed to establish a better world.

    as well as Dementus, the man who is a collection of impulses meant to both distract himself from the cranky black sorrow and bolster his image and his legend. the showman who wrought untold destruction to outrun his mysterious and convoluted past

  • Furiosa is a better story, Fury Road is better action.

  • I wanted to walk out of the theater during Fury Road, but I loved Furiosa. So I have to agree with you!

  • My hot take is that Furiosa is worse than Thunderdome.

    Here's the real answer! 

    💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

    Hm

    Hm? What makes Furiosa so good compared to Fury Road?

    I explained what in my post.

    Well you certainly made a couple of claims but lacked depth in your reasoning.

    imo Furiosa was an oddly paced cavalcade of forgettable scenes and shallow characters. Dementus started interesting but ended up being a lackluster as a villain, they tried to write him as a mad max joker but were not able to deliver. No sense of dread, nonexistent character development despite the movie spanning a considerably longer period, having a ton of more dialogue and longer runtime than Fury Road. The most rememberable scene was when whatshisname was dragged to death, and even that scene dragged (pun intended) way too long.

    That’s the point for Dementus, he starts to go unhinged as he starts losing his power.

    Aye. And my point was they could have done it better. Like fully unhinged when he descends to madness and not the "lets go unhinged but not too much so people watching don't get too unconfortable" style they decided to go with.

    Its either writing, directing or acting capabilities of Hemsworth but Dementus as a character was meh despite having potential.

    💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

  • I like Fury Road more, but its VERY close. Dementus might be the best villain in any Mad Max movie (he wins out over Toecutter if only because he gets more screentime). I liked how Furiosa showed you Gastown and the Bullet Farm. It did a lot of world-building.

  • false. not a chance in heck. pacing, action, and characters are leagues worse in Furiosa. there's also a bizarre lack of theme music in some of the action sequences in Furiosa

    I respect the opinion even if I disagree.

  • No it was not. The fact that the villain was more interesting than the main protagonist is enough of a proof 😅 Almost remind me of what dark knight joker did.

    Disagree but okay.

    Well it was your opinion and it was wrong but we cannot do anything more about it

    Ah yes “this guy disagrees with me so he’s wrong and I’m right hahahhehehhaha”

    Yeah your soooo right dude.

    It's not that I am right but it is a fact that fury roads was a better movie 🙄

    No it’s your opinion.

    mine is not a hot take buddy XD

    irrelvent

    nah it is relevant Dementus

  • I wouldn’t go that far but my main take on Furiosa was that it was worthy of Fury Road in every conceivable way, but if you the relentless pacing of Fury Road vs the episodic nature of Furiosa, full of stops and starts, then Fury Road still has the obvious edge.

    I’ve also said over the years that The Godfather Part II relies on The Godfather too much to ever be considered the better film, though it is similarly comparable in nearly every respect. There’s a similar situation here, I mean, I recognize the Gibson trilogy as canon to Fury Road/Furiosa but the 4 proper Max films really do all work as a standalone but Furiosa is intrinsically linked to Fury Road. That’s not a strike against it and I certainly wouldn’t want to make it seem like Furiosa is Fury Road DLC, but if anything the question becomes whether Fury Road is better off as a standalone or whether Furiosa presents a worthwhile expansion of Fury Road.

  • Nah. But I like Furiosa a lot better when I watch Fury Road immediately after Furiosa

  • Fury Road is absolute cinema. It's a movie that has depth, but doesn't even need it.

    Furiosa is good becuase it has depth. 

  • The story of furiosa was definitely more than that of fury road. But the delivery fell short for me.

    It didn't feel like a single cinematic experience, it felt off, like someone had made their fan edit of a trilogy and put it together on youtube.

  • Fury Road was a better movie.

    Dementus is easily the best character in either movie.

    yeah Dementus is amazing.

  • Watched furiosa then fury road and it was beautiful in everyway. One without the other is unthinkable to me.

  • It's hard to think of movies that centre around a plot of revenge that are still political or revolutionary in an interesting way. Fury Road charts a certain kind of model for emancipatory politics, and that's partly because it's not centered on revenge. So it takes the top spot for me.

  • I won't say that I agree or disagree, I feel like I liked Furiosa a lot more than most people did, there was a lot wrong with it, but I still enjoyed it immensely, it was very much in a comic books style which I think rubbed people the wrong way. Anya Taylor Joy passing as a boy was seriously 4th wall breaking tho, it could have worked with Charlize Theron tho

  • The only thing I’ll add is that anya totally deserves her flowers. I know everyone rightfully praises charlize, but anya was a terrific furiosa, and she really committed and carried the movie too.

  • I agree. I think by far it’s the best Mad Max movie of all.

  • I Agree, loved both but I personally prefer Furiosa.

    Yeah, I understand why Fury Road is so popular considering how good the action is so for people who like action that’s there thing HOWEVER I think diehard mad max fans appreciate Furiosa more becuase it gives us significantly more lore of the wasteland then Fury Road.

  • I think cinematically, Fury Road is objectively better but as a whole, I agree, I think Furiosa is better.

  • Felt like it had a much better story compared to Fury Road's non stop insanity. Currently Furiosa would be my Fav

  • If I was still an anime watching 15 year old, I’d also prefer Furiosa. It’s just a more character focused story and easier to connect to. But as an aged adult with a lot of watching, few films match the intensity of Fury Road. The physical tension in my body during the first half of the film is something I’ve never experienced with another film. It’s the most visceral experience I’ve had from a film. There will be blood got close to the same experience but not as much.

    ….

    😅 you’re not an anime watching 15 year old, are you OP? It’s not a bad thing if you are! Those are my roots. I was mostly just saying that over time the things I appreciate from film have changed to be less about my personal connection to the protagonist and more about the execution of the storytelling.

  • There are dozens of us. As much as I like the visceral, visual-storytelling, action-packed-extravaganza that is Fury Road, Furiosa is a movie with actual characters who have actual story arcs. To me, that makes it a better film.

    However, Fury Road might be a better Mad Max Film, as it's essentially the perfect distillation of what people love about the franchise.

    Furiosa is the setup for the payoff that is Fury Road. I understand why he made Fury Road first - the same reason Lucas started with Episode IV - but in a perfect world, Furiosa wouldn't have been a prequel.

    Prequel films are always going to feel like unnecessary afterthoughts, but in this one particular instance it actually does manage to provide the backstory and motivations for the character, and enriches the previous film.

  • Do kinda like the story behind Furiosa more. You could say its the second character they kinda realy dive into. Though Furiosa does cover Joe a bit and Dementus. Kinda gives more on some of the others from Furyroad.  But each movie is kinda its own thing. So its hard to have a favrote.

  • I adored Fury Road. I have rewatched Furiosa far more; I still distinctly recall trying to rewatch Fury Road after my 1st Furiosa theater experience, and it’s fun, but not as rich of a story. That’s fine; it’s a big chase film. But to me, Furiosa is the true culmination of Miller’s abilities.

  • I agree. I love them both as a single story but Furiosa is the more entertaining half. It has more characters, more story, a wider breadth of wasteland as we see multiple factions and cities, and we get Anya Taylor Joi being a bad ass. Fury Road is like the epic finale to everything built up in Furiosa. But fury road feels like it's missing the plot so it's not as entertaining to watch on its own.

  • hot as in a steaming pile of dog....

    furiosa is a lame crappy sequel movie.

    fury road is one of the greatest works of art ever created

    .....Ok well that's one take.

  • I really liked Furiosa, so i would be tempted to agree with you - if it wasnt for Dementus. One of the worst characters in movie history for me, bland, dumb and absolutely not funny. Lowered the movie from absolutely stunning to "well, decent popcorn flick" for me :(

  • Who speaks this sacrilege! Burn the heretic.

  • Im with you son! Almost, as i put them both as equals in my book. My top 1 movies ever!

  • Im with you. When I first saw furiosa I thought Fury Road was better. Then I watched all the movies in chronological order with my Cousin and that first chase scene in Furiosa when she's kidnapped as a child is some of the best stuff in the mad max universe period. Then when we watched Fury Road it just didn't hit as hard as Furiosa

  • I thought Furiosa was much better. Fury Road is great in its own way but imo is missing real emotional depth

  • I've mentioned it before that I think it's better

    Fury Road is good but it's a rehash of the Road Warrior me - but I'm old

  • For a hardcore mad max fan it makes sense, but the pacing is very off for a general movie watcher. I can’t put it above fury road remotely. Fry road is pure nitrous adrenaline, furiosa is for people who really love the lore of the Mad Max universe.

    ye

    Or people are plebes I dunno

  • Furiosa is Fury Roads bastard child... never equal to, never comparable, never better

  • Umm ok, but I'd have to disagree. Fury Road is literally one of the best action movies of all time. Furiosa is an exploration of the character Furiosa from Fury Road and tells a story of her origin. They are both different movies. They are both good, but if you're comparing action movie to action movie, Fury Road is my gold standard.

  • Fury Road was so peak, even George Miller can’t top himself

  • it’s my fav of the two! fury road is definitely dope but there’s just a charm furiosa has that fury road doesn’t

  • The road warrior (Mad max 2) is better than both.

  • I just think of them as a pair and cant pick from either

  • No chance. Furiosa is great until Ana Taylor Joy shows up. No hate juste bad/mistake in casting. To be fair she had to make people forget Charlize Theron + you’re cosplaying a boy the entire movie and all she brought was a shitty « blue steel » stare. Absolutely zero depth in the character and the « connection » with the rig driver felt forced. Other than that yes, Furiosa was good.

  • Furiosa was good but it wore me out before the end. I was sick to death of hearing Hemsworth’s character talking, frankly. Movie was 20 minutes too long.

  • Watched Furiosa last night and absolutely loved it! The story, the combat, the characters. Watched Fury Road some time ago and also loved it but I wanted to see how I feel about it now, after watching Furiosa. So, I watched it today to be able to compare and I must say, I agree. I loved Furiosa more! It's not just action. It's story, it has some really funny scenes as well. I am excited for Wasteland!

  • I actually agreed with you, and this is speaking from someone who has seen Fury Road more than 20 times. I think Furiosa has a more conventional narrative on the surface, but it is less receptive and digestible than Fury Road. The less visceral, more mythical stylistic style, the sprawling episodic structure, and a somewhat anticlimactic ending might frustrate and leave some viewers cold. However, I find it much richer thematically and philosophically.

    If you’re interested, you can read some of my thoughts on Furiosa I posted here before, and I might write another one about why the ending is called Beyond Vengeance. Just letting you know, I had AI to polish my flow and grammar and try to sound more academic at the time, and it was my bad.

    hm okay, I'll maybe check it out.

  • THAN* for fuck sake man.

  • Yeah, Mad Max films tend to throw their characters right into the action without much of a backstory, just bits and pieces that hint at how they wound up in their current circumstances. It was fascinating to see this film dig a little deeper. Immortan Joe is (or becomes) an evil and oppressive warlord, but in Furiosa he is literally the lesser evil, at least for her, at least at that point in time.

  • I definitely agree with you. But that's because I prefer the originals to Fury Road. Furiosa felt more in keeping with the spirit of the Mel Gibson trilogy.

  • Agree. I’ve probably watched furiosa more than fury road but there is so much more to sink your teeth into. Fury road is a masterpiece of action but furiosa is a masterpiece of storytelling.

  • I agree. I like the world building more in Furiosa more.

  • YES: but I don't tell anyone. Anna Taylor Joy is SO intense. And Dementus in his broken viciousness, steals the show.

    The chases and battles are stellar.

    Fr

    I own these two movies (and the first 2) and when I saw Furiosa the first time I watched Fury Road right after. Charlize seemed subdued to me, still awesome, and in her defense she didn't get to film AFTER Ana Taylor Joy. Tom Hardy as Mad Max was cool the first time but then on subsequent viewings I was like, "What is this guy doing?" LOL

    Some of the crazy things they did in Furiosa had me jumping out of my chair, like those skaters with the kites! Who the F+++ thinks of sh++ like that?

  • I think they're both fantastic, but for me, Fury Road does edge it out slightly just out of personal preference for that mode of storytelling.

    Having said that, however, Furiosa is a grand, majestic myth that sees Miller, for the first time, taking a pause and examining the world he's created from the perspective of an innocent life shaped and moulded by it. It's both a singular odyssey and a character piece in the Wasteland, and a reflection on the entire series as a whole, among many other things. It's also, of course, a fable of uncommon power about what the History Man says at the beginning - how does a person define themselves when the world is crumbling around them?

    It's full of so many great scenes and ideas that it's almost boundless, and is hampered occasionally only by a handful of naff effects shots (not really that many though) that are only a result of the Director being goddamn eighty and his refusal to Film anywhere else except Australia this time, weather be damned. Which is pretty admirable.

    Even the presence of much more CGI in general, whether it's good or bad (and don't get me wrong, for the majority it's very good, especially on IMAX or a 4K TV), belies the fact that this is a story of a much bigger scope and scale than Fury Road, one that couldn't possibly be fully built practically - that it exists in that other-world of fantasy and mythic archetype the other Films did, but wants to show us so much more of it.

    Great, great movie. If he never gets to make another one, this is the perfect capstone to his life's work.

  • I did like Furiosa better than fury road, but they are both like perfect film.

  • Furiosa has a great story where Fury Road isn't quite as good. But Fury Roads nails the execution and gives us more movie out of its limited plot.

  • I think Furiosa had the better story. It had more development and a more complex plot. I don't think it's the better movie. Fury Road was simpler but more impactful. It changed the action movie genre forever.

  • I agree!! Even on release i found fury road to be just ok. Furiosa was mind blowing

  • I agree tbh. I liked fury road but I loved furiosa

  • Im with you son! Almost, as i out them both as equals in my book. My top 1 movies ever!

  • I may just agree with you. I need to rewatch both back to back first though before I’m sure.

  • Fury Road had better production value and better storyboarding than Furiosa, which is a given considering that Fury Road was been planned for 15 years, shot for one, and edited for almost five.

    But Furiosa had somewhat of a more viscerally dark story, and one that did not pretend that Furiosa wasn't the main character. The original movie was the only one that focused on Max himself, the other three were wasteland stories with Max as an interloper and a disruptor of the natural order of things.

    Furiosa is great as it smooths over the rough edges of her character; it is a very believable, very real backstoru of her character, and it shows you how she turned into the woman we see in Fury Road...but holy shit, her backstory is dark, twisted and beyond hopeless, and it gives her a perfect amount of motivation of why she flees the Citadel with the Five Wives. You feel nothing but empathy for her, but you also believe that she will be fine, she is almost inhumanly resilient no matter how hard it turns out for her.

  • I rate them near equally, but Fury Road was such a singular feat in a way Furiosa couldn't be

  • I agree, Furiosa was a much more epic tale. Origins, backstory, lore, multiple campaigns.

    Fury road was just a long road trip by comparison.

  • It’s like comparing Alien and Aliens. They are both top class.

  • We don't need 2 female led movies back to back